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RE: GOC Rates for month of July' 2004
by Mailing List Manager 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:14:11 +0100 (BST) From: "[iso-8859-1] Prof. N. Laxman Rao." <naglaxman(a)yahoo.com> Dear Friends I have read the discussion, and I would like to make some comments and after wards I shall give my opinion 1. Do we find some relationship between us and publisher or not? 2. Our main concern is to purchase books, and many librarians are not having the selection sources / catalogues and they are not aware of the existing technology, infrastructure, books. Many librarians find the information as a sort of awareness 3. If we do not like to hav it or read it, u have an option to delete. once we start reading the mail. we understand and can be deleted. 4. how many professional memebres are sending useful messages. should we remove all of them from the group? important: Can we make use of the message from different dimension? Do we have GOC? Is it authorised by th Govt- now Govt is not participating. how far it is authentic? if it is not authentic, why no one is commenting on the aspect of illegality or irrelevance of the GOC rates.Who are the members? what is their authenticity), as i understand the IOLA have denied to associate with the GOC. People say that it is being fixed at the behest of few under the pressure of the select publisher ( subject to correction) Do you think that we should purchase the documents by paying GOC rates/ In almost all the academic libraries in south stopped purchase of periodicals throught GOC rates. mainly due to the fact that, by paying almost 5-6 %extra- for a budget of 25 lakhs it works out to be1.25 laks extra. therefore almost all the libraries have stopped purchasing the periodicals by GOC rates and they pay only bank rates. Is it justified to pay extra 5-6% to the publisher / Book seller? Let us insist not to pay extra 5-6% of the value, when we r undergoing the financial limitations. Now it is high time we pay actual rates in the stabilised economy. ( the GOC was to fix rates in volatile environment). Similarly any thing related to the profession may be permitted by the group. It gives an opportunity to many people to understand and know the issues. let our professional friends examine and write the critical comment on the messages. thanks laxman rao

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FW: [ISSI] Eugene Garfield Doctoral Dissertation Scholarship
by Mailing List Manager 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:05:49 +0530 From: Subbiah Arunachalam <arun(a)mssrf.res.in> -----Original Message----- From: Mistry, Meher To: ISSI(a)LISTSERV.REDIRIS.ES Sent: 7/8/04 12:03 AM Subject: [ISSI] Eugene Garfield Doctoral Dissertation Scholarship >From Henry Small We are pleased to announce the availability of the Eugene Garfield Doctoral Dissertation Scholarship to be awarded in conjunction with the 10th International Conference of ISSI in 2005. Please see www.umu.se/inforsk/ISSI2005/award/award_intro.htm for further information and instructions on how to apply.

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Re: [LIS-Forum] RE: GOC Rates for month of July' 2004
by Mailing List Manager 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:04:55 +0100 (BST) From: "[iso-8859-1] Prof. N. Laxman Rao." <naglaxman(a)yahoo.com> dear friends, i agree with the statements made by other friends. the difference is ssome time upto 7-8% i have collected data for a year and saw that the variation is too much. first of all we need to look for its legality. is GOC rates are legal? now neither ILA nor the Banks are participating in this program. some friends say that it has gone into pucca business minded people and the name of GOC is being exploited to a larger extent egarding the discount- many univs do not purchase if the discount is less than 15%- whatever the book may be. i have seen in aligarh muslim university the discounts r ranging upto 40% ( especially for medicine books) they r able to buy at a minimum of 20% why not other libraries? i think we need to examine this issue and seriously consider to join the hands to protect the interests of the libraries. laxman rao "G. K. Manjunath" <gkm(a)igidr.ac.in> wrote: I had gathered two years data to compare the difference between bank rate and GOC rate. I observed that the difference had exceeded 6% during some of the months during 2000 and 2001. During 1990's, the agreement between the then members of the Federation and librarians was to pay a markup of 2% over bank rate to negate the effect of fluctuations, which looked reasonable. Later, when this 2% markup was not agreable to the Federation, the librarians representing GOC withdrew. Some of the Delhi libraries are following ILA rates. Can I request the Delhi librarians to throw some light on it ? This issue of huge difference in exchange rate was discussed in a meeting organized by Mumbai's IASLIC chapter at British Library during April 2001. During this workshop I had made a small presentation on the data and suggested that bank rate for journals subscription. Majority of the members who were presented during the meeting agreed that libraries need to insist on Bank rate for journals, as the renewal is done once a year. To offset this problem in case of books, one can ask for more discount than recommended by GOC as this incovenient to check bank rate every day. Many booksuppliers are now offering 15% and some even 20%. Therefore, with this kind of arrangment, the GOC problem does not look too serious. G.K.MANJUNATH ************************************************** CHIEF LIBRARIAN INDIRA GANDHI INSTITUTE OF DEVELOPMENT RESEARCH FILM CITY ROAD ( GEN.VAIDYA MARG ) SANTOSH NAGAR GOREGAON ( EAST ) MUMBAI - 400 065 INDIA e-mail : gkm(a)igidr.ac.in http:// www.igidr.ac.in/lib/library.htm phone 22-8490653 ************************************************

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RE: LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8
by Byrappa, Ananda (Research) 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

All of us know how difficult it is to procure books from foreign publishers, particularly when you need them quickly (always!) At GE Bangalore, we have the following book procurement practice in place. Our priority is delivery time. We have tied-up with selected few book sellers with the following terms and conditions to procure foreign books. - Delivery time 30 days (maximum) - Discount 20% - Payment within 2 weeks - Conversion as per GOC rates In special cases, when we require books urgently, we pay actual courier charge (against proof) to the suppliers but he needs to deliver the book within 7 days. Discount and payment terms remain the same. Actually, we end up buying 20% of our books from online book stores, like amazon, due to urgent timelines. I feel, how nice if amazon can offer some discount to libraries & deliver the books with free of shipment charges! Regards, Anand T Byrappa Whitney Knowledge Centre GE India Technology Centre Pvt.Ltd., 122, EPIP, Phase 2, Hoodi Village, Whitefield Road, Bangalore - 560066, INDIA Phone : +91-80-2503-2618, DialCom: 8*901 2618 Fax : +91-80-2841-2114, Email : Ananda.Byrappa(a)ge.com -----Original Message----- From: lis-forum-bounces(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in [mailto:lis-forum-bounces@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in]On Behalf Of lis-forum-request(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:11 AM To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Subject: LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 Send LIS-Forum mailing list submissions to lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lis-forum-request(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in You can reach the person managing the list at lis-forum-owner(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of LIS-Forum digest..." Today's Topics: 1. GOC (Mailing List Manager) 2. Re: RE: GOC Rates for month of July' 2004 (uma jaganath) 3. Re: Message for Vijaylakshmi (ganeshtk) 4. Re: LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 16, Issue 7 (lata(a)iihmr.org) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 17:09:40 +0530 (IST) From: Mailing List Manager <mailman(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Subject: [LIS-Forum] GOC To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0407061708120.27507(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:20:47 +0530 From: Mrs. Vaishnav <ytv(a)godrej.com> Dear All, I remember correctly about going thru' the same discussion last year also. It is a good platform to become aware of various practices in our field, touching different aspects. On this issue of GOC, can we come to any common giudeline? The example given by Mrs. Nirupama Bawdekar is self explanatory. With regards to all, Mrs. Y.T. Vaishnav, Consulting Librarian, Godrej Learning Center, Mumbai. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 17:09:45 +0530 (IST) From: uma jaganath <uma(a)library.iisc.ernet.in> Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] RE: GOC Rates for month of July' 2004 To: Krishnan <krish(a)ems.ncl.res.in> Cc: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.44.0407061656080.5778-100000(a)library.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII J R D Tata Memorial Library, at Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore is also following the same procedure as NCL by sending the list of books published by foreign publishers that we want to procure asking them to quote the rate of discount and also the possible time of delivery. Whoever gives the highest discount (it ranges from 21% to 34%) , orders will be placed with those vendors. And also the vendors delivers the book with the price proof and we also verify the price by visiting publishers' websites and we are paying them Bank Rate (SBI) prevailing on the date of billing. By this procedure, our library is saving quite a good amount by way of discount, which we are using to update our Reference collection. Dr. Uma Jagannath Deputy Librarian J R D Tata Memorial Library Indian Institute of Science Bangalore 560012 Tel.No. 22932868 E-Mail: uma(a)library.iisc.ernet.in On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Krishnan wrote: > One option that we have been using is to send the list of books that we want > to few vendors and ask them to indicate the best possible discount and the > time period of delivery. Our terms - payment against bill (no advance > payment), bank rate on the date of the bill. We have been able to get > discounts ranging from 20% to 30% > > Dr. S. Krishnan > NCL > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) > Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release Date: 7/2/2004 > > > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:39:25 -0700 (PDT) From: ganeshtk <ganeshtk(a)yahoo.com> Subject: [LIS-Forum] Re: Message for Vijaylakshmi To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <20040707063925.38473.qmail(a)web13604.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Ms.Vijayalakshmi, You can do M.Phil course from Annamalai University and IGNOU. The admiissions for Annamalai University is starting from the Month of August 2004. GANESH T.K. Admin-cum-Library Assistant CISED BANGALORE ganeshtk(a)isec.ac.in --- lis-forum-request(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in wrote: > Send LIS-Forum mailing list submissions to > lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > lis-forum-request(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > You can reach the person managing the list at > lis-forum-owner(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of LIS-Forum digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: GOC Rates for month of July' 2004 > (Krishnan) > 2. RE: Buying foreign books (G. K. Manjunath) > 3. RE: Buying foreign books (HENAG) > 4. Re: Theme for the IATLIS conference (K.S. > Chudamani) > 5. Re: Re: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books > (Mailing List Manager) > 6. New Parliament Library (Mailing List Manager) > 7. Cut the vendor out Re: [LIS-Forum] Buying > foreign books > (Mailing List Manager) > 8. Re: INDICATORS OF PUBLICATIONS (Mailing List > Manager) > 9. RE: M.Phil degree through correspondence from > South India. > (fwd) (Mailing List Manager) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:43:25 +0530 > From: "Krishnan" <krish(a)ems.ncl.res.in> > Subject: [LIS-Forum] RE: GOC Rates for month of > July' 2004 > To: <lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> > Message-ID: <000601c46317$f7036910$8c0a10ac@zeta> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > One option that we have been using is to send the > list of books that we want > to few vendors and ask them to indicate the best > possible discount and the > time period of delivery. Our terms - payment against > bill (no advance > payment), bank rate on the date of the bill. We have > been able to get > discounts ranging from 20% to 30% > > Dr. S. Krishnan > NCL > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com) > Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release > Date: 7/2/2004 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:03:23 +0530 (IST) > From: "G. K. Manjunath" <gkm(a)igidr.ac.in> > Subject: RE: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books > To: HENAG <HENAG(a)infosys.com> > Cc: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Message-ID: > > <Pine.OSF.4.30.0407061047390.510201-100000(a)brahma.igidr.ac.in> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > Regarding database of suppliers and the publishers > they represent, I would > like to inform , that British library has published > such online directory, > for British publishers. > > The directory published by National Book Trust > during World Bookfair, 2004 > has listed all the suppliers, who participated in > the fair, along with the > names of publishers they represent. > > Many publishers from US are not represented in > India. I wonder whether > there is any supplier to import books published by > ALA. If there are no > authorised stockists or representatives, then > postage will be too high as > mentioned by Mr.Chandra. Barnes and Noble, whom I > met recently in US are > willing to supply books to Indian libraries if the > business offered is US > $5000/- per year. They also offer about 20% > discount. > > We at IGIDR have prepared database of suppliers in > the area of social > sciencs. The data can be provided in ISO2709 format > for those who are > interested. > > g.k.manjunath > > CHIEF LIBRARIAN > INDIRA GANDHI INSTITUTE OF DEVELOPMENT > RESEARCH > FILM CITY ROAD ( GEN.VAIDYA MARG ) > SANTOSH NAGAR > GOREGAON ( EAST ) > MUMBAI - 400 065 > INDIA > > > e-mail : gkm(a)igidr.ac.in > http:// www.igidr.ac.in/lib/library.htm > > phone 91-22-28490653 > ************************************************ > > > On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, HENAG wrote: > > > Very good suggestion MS Chudamani, It should be a > forum like where all suppliers account should be > there. > > > > > > Regards > > hena > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lis-forum-bounces(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > [mailto:lis-forum-bounces@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in]On > Behalf Of K.S. Chudamani > > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 3:16 PM > > To: Prafulla Chandra > > Cc: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books > > > > > > > > Now it is high time that all the book sellers come > together and create an > > accessible database for searching and procuring > books in India > > > > Chudamani > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LIS-Forum mailing list > > LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LIS-Forum mailing list > > LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:54:14 +0530 > From: "HENAG" <HENAG(a)infosys.com> > Subject: RE: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books > To: "G. K. Manjunath" <gkm(a)igidr.ac.in> > Cc: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Message-ID: > > <882B7E812BE14E4BA7E86387242C8DB90BA37433(a)kecmsg11.ad.infosys.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks , I'm also aware of this , BCI Publication > alias Book Shoppe from Bangalore also was present > in that world book fair. > > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:11:28 +0530 From: <lata(a)iihmr.org> Subject: [LIS-Forum] Re: LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 16, Issue 7 To: <lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Message-ID: <002701c464a5$d835c340$0100007f(a)mantraonline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This is in reference to Ms. Vijayalaxmi's query regarding M.Phil You can apply M Phil degree on LIS through Distance learning from Anna Malai University and Madurai Kamaraj University in South India Lata Suresh Librarian IIHMR, Jaipur Message: 9 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:53:52 +0530 (IST) From: Mailing List Manager <mailman(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Subject: [LIS-Forum] RE: M.Phil degree through correspondence from South India. (fwd) To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0407061653180.27507(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:43:45 +0530 From: vijayalakshmijs(a)ingvysyabank.com Dear friends, Please let me know where we can do M.Phil degree in Library and Information Science from any of the university of south India through correspondence. Thanks and regards Vijayalakshmi J S Librarian STC ING Vysya Bank Ltd. PH NO: 26507281 e-mail: vijayalakshmijs(a)ingvysyabank.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <lis-forum-request(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> To: <lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 16, Issue 7 Send LIS-Forum mailing list submissions to lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lis-forum-request(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in You can reach the person managing the list at lis-forum-owner(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of LIS-Forum digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: GOC Rates for month of July' 2004 (Krishnan) 2. RE: Buying foreign books (G. K. Manjunath) 3. RE: Buying foreign books (HENAG) 4. Re: Theme for the IATLIS conference (K.S. Chudamani) 5. Re: Re: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books (Mailing List Manager) 6. New Parliament Library (Mailing List Manager) 7. Cut the vendor out Re: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books (Mailing List Manager) 8. Re: INDICATORS OF PUBLICATIONS (Mailing List Manager) 9. RE: M.Phil degree through correspondence from South India. (fwd) (Mailing List Manager) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:43:25 +0530 From: "Krishnan" <krish(a)ems.ncl.res.in> Subject: [LIS-Forum] RE: GOC Rates for month of July' 2004 To: <lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Message-ID: <000601c46317$f7036910$8c0a10ac@zeta> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" One option that we have been using is to send the list of books that we want to few vendors and ask them to indicate the best possible discount and the time period of delivery. Our terms - payment against bill (no advance payment), bank rate on the date of the bill. We have been able to get discounts ranging from 20% to 30% Dr. S. Krishnan NCL --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release Date: 7/2/2004 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:03:23 +0530 (IST) From: "G. K. Manjunath" <gkm(a)igidr.ac.in> Subject: RE: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books To: HENAG <HENAG(a)infosys.com> Cc: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.30.0407061047390.510201-100000(a)brahma.igidr.ac.in> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Regarding database of suppliers and the publishers they represent, I would like to inform , that British library has published such online directory, for British publishers. The directory published by National Book Trust during World Bookfair, 2004 has listed all the suppliers, who participated in the fair, along with the names of publishers they represent. Many publishers from US are not represented in India. I wonder whether there is any supplier to import books published by ALA. If there are no authorised stockists or representatives, then postage will be too high as mentioned by Mr.Chandra. Barnes and Noble, whom I met recently in US are willing to supply books to Indian libraries if the business offered is US $5000/- per year. They also offer about 20% discount. We at IGIDR have prepared database of suppliers in the area of social sciencs. The data can be provided in ISO2709 format for those who are interested. g.k.manjunath CHIEF LIBRARIAN INDIRA GANDHI INSTITUTE OF DEVELOPMENT RESEARCH FILM CITY ROAD ( GEN.VAIDYA MARG ) SANTOSH NAGAR GOREGAON ( EAST ) MUMBAI - 400 065 INDIA e-mail : gkm(a)igidr.ac.in http:// www.igidr.ac.in/lib/library.htm phone 91-22-28490653 ************************************************ On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, HENAG wrote: > Very good suggestion MS Chudamani, It should be a forum like where all suppliers account should be there. > > > Regards > hena > > -----Original Message----- > From: lis-forum-bounces(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > [mailto:lis-forum-bounces@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in]On Behalf Of K.S. Chudamani > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 3:16 PM > To: Prafulla Chandra > Cc: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books > > > > Now it is high time that all the book sellers come together and create an > accessible database for searching and procuring books in India > > Chudamani > > > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:54:14 +0530 From: "HENAG" <HENAG(a)infosys.com> Subject: RE: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books To: "G. K. Manjunath" <gkm(a)igidr.ac.in> Cc: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <882B7E812BE14E4BA7E86387242C8DB90BA37433(a)kecmsg11.ad.infosys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks , I'm also aware of this , BCI Publication alias Book Shoppe from Bangalore also was present in that world book fair. And mostly they don't charge more than the book price ,if you are aregular customer.Rather will provide some discount if possible. -----Original Message----- From: G. K. Manjunath [mailto:gkm@igidr.ac.in] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 11:03 AM To: HENAG Cc: K.S. Chudamani; Prafulla Chandra; lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Subject: RE: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books Regarding database of suppliers and the publishers they represent, I would like to inform , that British library has published such online directory, for British publishers. The directory published by National Book Trust during World Bookfair, 2004 has listed all the suppliers, who participated in the fair, along with the names of publishers they represent. Many publishers from US are not represented in India. I wonder whether there is any supplier to import books published by ALA. If there are no authorised stockists or representatives, then postage will be too high as mentioned by Mr.Chandra. Barnes and Noble, whom I met recently in US are willing to supply books to Indian libraries if the business offered is US $5000/- per year. They also offer about 20% discount. We at IGIDR have prepared database of suppliers in the area of social sciencs. The data can be provided in ISO2709 format for those who are interested. g.k.manjunath CHIEF LIBRARIAN INDIRA GANDHI INSTITUTE OF DEVELOPMENT RESEARCH FILM CITY ROAD ( GEN.VAIDYA MARG ) SANTOSH NAGAR GOREGAON ( EAST ) MUMBAI - 400 065 INDIA e-mail : gkm(a)igidr.ac.in http:// www.igidr.ac.in/lib/library.htm phone 91-22-28490653 ************************************************ On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, HENAG wrote: > Very good suggestion MS Chudamani, It should be a forum like where all suppliers account should be there. > > > Regards > hena > > -----Original Message----- > From: lis-forum-bounces(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > [mailto:lis-forum-bounces@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in]On Behalf Of K.S. Chudamani > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 3:16 PM > To: Prafulla Chandra > Cc: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books > > > > Now it is high time that all the book sellers come together and create an > accessible database for searching and procuring books in India > > Chudamani > > > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:57:52 +0530 (IST) From: "K.S. Chudamani" <ksc(a)library.iisc.ernet.in> Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Theme for the IATLIS conference To: Mailing List Manager <mailman(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Cc: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.44.0407061156030.22874-100000(a)library.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think this theme is an very important one as it has to be examined in the digital environment. Curriculum development, practical training in knowledge management database creation, etc are required Chudamani On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, Mailing List Manager wrote: > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:08:13 +0100 (BST) > From: "[iso-8859-1] Prof. N. Laxman Rao." <naglaxman(a)yahoo.com> > > dear friends > > the IATLIS organises annual conference every year/ this year we are > planning to organise the said conference during oct / nov 2004 at Nagpur. > we would like to suggest the following theme > > partnership between the LIS teachers and the librarians in professional > development. this is not exactly the theme, it will touch the theme. we > would like to frame it acccordingly. > > I will appreciate all the friends to suggest how the topic is and > otherwise please suggeest the topics to me i will apprciatel the > professional friends, who will be able to suggest the theme and contribute > for the success of the conf thanks laxman rao > > > > Prof.N.LAXMAN RAO, > Dept.of Library & Information Science, > Osmania University, HYDERABAD- 500 007 (INDIA) > President, Indian Association of Teachers in Library and Information Science (IATLIS). > Ph:+91-40-27171565 (res): +91-40- 27682290 (off) 9246547599 (Mobile) > e:mail-- naglaxman(a)yahoo.com OR naglaxman(a)indiatimes.com > > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:39:34 +0530 (IST) From: Mailing List Manager <mailman(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Subject: Re: Re: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0407061638150.27507(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: 6 Jul 2004 04:58:06 -0000 From: Sanjay Kataria <lib_scholar(a)rediffmail.com> Dear professionals, I think, some of professional associations or society should take the initiative to design & develop the compressive databases/search engines which have the linkage with all major foreign publications. The databases could have the alert feature means as & when any publisher update their website, immediately the alert service inform their client libraries. In regard of exchange rate, I think the GOC rate is ok but Good offices Committee also should change their system and try to update themselves with help and associate with the Banks, Libraries Associations and other relevant societies. Best regards Sanjay Kataria Learning Resource Centre Jaypee Institute of Information Technology A-10, Sector-62, Noida (UP On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 KS.Chudamani wrote : > >Now it is high time that all the book sellers come together and create an >accessible database for searching and procuring books in India > >Chudamani > > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:45:53 +0530 (IST) From: Mailing List Manager <mailman(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Subject: [LIS-Forum] New Parliament Library To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0407061640130.27507(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: 6 Jul 2004 05:32:15 -0000 From: farooque <mfarooque(a)rediffmail.com> The second largest library of India took 8 years and over 200 crores to build. How many regular users are there? How many Staffs are working? Collection of the library and all these you'll find in an article published in Outlook July 12 issue. Title of this article is "NO DOG-EARS HERE" by Sheela Reddy. Below is the link of online version. http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20040712&fname=Library+%28F%29& sid=1 --------------------------------- Farooque, IBM Global Services (India) Pvt Ltd. First floor, GT Annexe, Airport Road, Bangalore-17 Tel: 25094107, 25094119 email... farooque(a)in.ibm.com ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:50:41 +0530 (IST) From: Mailing List Manager <mailman(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Subject: Cut the vendor out Re: [LIS-Forum] Buying foreign books To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0407061649080.27507(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Date: 6 Jul 2004 08:15:37 -0000 From: Rajesh K Patil <rajeshbcd(a)rediffmail.com> If you want to buy one title and are bothered about high freight and service charges, my suggestion is - abandon your local mortar and brick vendor and buy the book from a online vendor, how about amazon ? Regards. Rajesh On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 Prafulla Chandra wrote : >Dear All, > >I would like to know the best practices for buying foreign books. >Also, who are the top suppliers in India for these books? [truncated] > >T.V. Prafulla Chandra >Senior Editor ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:52:48 +0530 (IST) From: Mailing List Manager <mailman(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] INDICATORS OF PUBLICATIONS To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0407061651470.27507(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:37:12 +0530 From: gargkc <gargkc(a)nistads.res.in> Dear Mr. Sadasivan Thanks for your e mail. In my opinion it is not proper that the Downloading should be treated as an Indicator of the quality of Papers. also it is not clear from the attached list which are the the second and third highest downloaded papers that have been authored by the scientists of your lab.however, a final decision about their quality can be taken only after a citation study of these papers. I may mention that of the 50 papers listed in the site you have refered 14 are review articles, which are cited more frequently than other articles. if you have any other query, pl. feel free to contact. regards K.C.Garg NISTADS ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:18:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: Sadasivan KP <kps31147(a)yahoo.com> > > Dear Lis-Forum Members, > > The Impact Factor of journals/publications and Citation Counts of papers > are well known indicators of their quality/acceptance. Despite the current > debate worldwide on its acceptance / reservations, these indicators are > still widely accepted by the peers, professionals and funding agencies, > etc. , presumably due to the absence of an effective alternative mode of > rating. > > Now a new concept is emerging - as seen publicised and promoted by certain > publishers and authors : An Indicator based on the frequency/amount of > downloads of a paper ! > > For instance, the international journal " Biotechnology & Applied > Biochemistry" (Publisher : Portland Press on behalf of IUMBM) has widely > publicised in their website as follows: > > ' Top 50 Downloaded Papers: The Papers listed below are the 50 most > frequently downloaded Papers for the 12 months to the end of May 2004...' > (The list contains HTML Full Text & PDF downloadable options too) > > The details can be accessed at URL : http://bab.portlandpress.com/bab50.htm > > This has triggered a debate among the scientists (of my Lab) in favour of > and against the concept of "Downloading as an Indicator on the quality of > Papers". (Incidentally, the second and third highest downloaded papers > happened to have been authored by one of our own Scientists!) > > I seek the comments/views of our professionals, especially the > biblio/sciento-metricians . > > SADASIVAN KP > Head, Library & Informatics > Regional Research Laboratory (CSIR) > Trivandrum - 695 019 > E-Mail : kps31147(a)yahoo.com OR kps(a)csrrltrd.ren.nic.in > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:53:52 +0530 (IST) From: Mailing List Manager <mailman(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Subject: [LIS-Forum] RE: M.Phil degree through correspondence from South India. (fwd) To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0407061653180.27507(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:43:45 +0530 From: vijayalakshmijs(a)ingvysyabank.com Dear friends, Please let me know where we can do M.Phil degree in Library and Information Science from any of the university of south India through correspondence. Thanks and regards Vijayalakshmi J S Librarian STC ING Vysya Bank Ltd. PH NO: 26507281 e-mail: vijayalakshmijs(a)ingvysyabank.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ LIS-Forum mailing list LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum End of LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 16, Issue 7 **************************************** ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ LIS-Forum mailing list LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum End of LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 ****************************************

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New Open Access / OAI Articles and Reports
by Mailing List Manager 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:27:44 -0500 From: Gerry Mckiernan <gerrymck(a)iastate.edu> _New Open Access / OAI Articles and Reports_ I am pleased to announce the availability of three major publications relating to Open Access and the Open Archives Initiative: [I] "Open Archives Initiative Data Providers. Part II: Science and Technology," _Library Hi Tech News_ 21, no. 5 (June 2004): 22-30. Self-archived at: http://www.public.iastate.edu/~gerrymck/OAI-DP-II.pdf (accessed 7 July 2004). Bioline [ http://www.bioline.org.br/ ] CERN Document Server (CDS) [ http://cds.cern.ch/ ] Digital Library for Earth System Education (DLESE) [ http://www.dlese.org/dds/index.jsp ] Organic Eprints [ http://orgprints.org/ ] *********************************************************************************************** [II] "Gaining Independence with E-Print Archives and OAI: Report on the 2nd Workshop on the Open Archives Initiative, October 17-19, 2002, CERN, Geneva, Switzerland," _Journal of Internet Cataloging_ 6, no. 3 (2003) [2004]: 35-52. Self-archived at: http://www.public.iastate.edu/~gerrymck/OAI-WS-02.pdf (accessed 7 July) In addition to a detailed description and summary of individual presentations and reports, a bibliography of 'Related Readings, Reports, and Resources' was compiled and appended to the formal workshop report. ************************************************************************************************ [III] News from the Field," _Journal of Internet Cataloging_ 6, no. 3 (2003) [2004]: 61-80. Self-archived at: http://www.public.iastate.edu/~gerrymck/NEWSv6n3.pdf (accessed 7 July 2004). In this latest news column, numerous Open Access and Open Archives Initiative programs, projects, and publications are profiled. Enjoy! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor and Science and Technology Librarian and Bibliographer Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 gerrymck(a)iastate.edu

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Articles on Public lib development
by Mailing List Manager 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:14:36 +0530 From: Achar <achar(a)ohiomanipal.edu> Dear Professionals, I am doing M.Phil in public library development special reference to rural library development. Will you please help me in giving references and articles related to this. Thanks Achar

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NewGenLib now on Linux
by Mailing List Manager 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 08:49:37 +0530 From: Jai Haravu <haravu(a)newgenlib.com> Dear List members Some time back I has reported the development of NewGenLib, (http://www newgenlib.com) a web-based library automation and networking software developed as an initiative of the Kesavan Inst. of Information and Knowledge Management (KIIKM) in partnership with a software company in Hyderabad, Verus Solutions Pvt. Ltd. I am happy to let you know that NewGenLib has now been ported to run under Linux and also under an open source RDBMS, viz., Firebird. This RDBMS works well both under the Windows and Linux OS. This version has been tested on stand alones and on a LAN/Intranet and is well suited to small-to-medium libraries. We hope to test this version also on a web server and I will keep you informed of this. Best regards. L J Haravu Trustee, Kesavan Institute of Information and Knowledge Management [http://www.kiikm.org/] 69 Krishnapuri Colony West Marredpally Sedcunderabad 500 026 Tel: 91-40-27803947

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Re: [LIS-Forum] INDICATORS OF PUBLICATIONS
by Mailing List Manager 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 19:57:47 +0500 From: ppich(a)vsnl.net Certainly the number of downloads is not an indicator for measuring the quality or impact of papers. It is like the number of borrowings of a book in a library. Most of the papers downloaded in your list are review papers and they are used to know the current trend in a field. P.Pichappan Annamalai University ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:37:12 +0530 > From: gargkc <gargkc(a)nistads.res.in> > > Dear Mr. Sadasivan > > Thanks for your e mail. In my opinion it is not proper that the > Downloadingshould be treated as an Indicator of the quality of > Papers. also it is not > clear from the attached list which are the the second and third > highestdownloaded papers that have been authored by the scientists > of your > lab.however, a final decision about their quality can be taken > only after a > citation study of these papers. I may mention that of the 50 > papers listed > in the site you have refered 14 are review articles, which are > cited more > frequently than other articles. > if you have any other query, pl. feel free to contact. > regards > > K.C.Garg > NISTADS >

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Re: [LIS-Forum] Theme for the IATLIS conference
by Mailing List Manager 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 19:43:12 +0530 From: shalini(a)vidyanidhi.org.in My take on this : Possible themes ------ 1.LIS Educators and practitioners : Building Bridges 2.LIS Educators and Practitioners :Strengthening/Forging Alliances 3.Preaching and practicing LIS -New Alliances and old partnerships 4.Melding teaching with practice in LIS Profession:methods and models 5.LIS Education and practice -overarching and outreaching ---- Happy handshaking! Shalini -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr.Shalini R.Urs Director Professor and Chairperson Information & Communication Division Department of Library and Information Science University of Mysore University of Mysore Manasagangotri Manasagangotri Mysore- 570006 Mysore -570006 India Ph : 91-821-2514699 Fax: 91-821-2519209 Website:http://www.vidyanidhi.org.in/shaliniurs.htm

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Re: [LIS-Forum] INDICATORS OF PUBLICATIONS
by Mailing List Manager 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:27:02 +0100 (BST) From: "[iso-8859-1] Prof. N. Laxman Rao." <naglaxman(a)yahoo.com> hello I accept the statement of Mr Garg. But let me also state that , citation is not a criteria- as many authors have not even seen the journal / article- still they quote in their to give quality touch to their own article. this is world know fact. is it possible to assess and evaluate the use pattern- is a very difficult laxman rao Mailing List Manager <mailman(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> wrote: Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:37:12 +0530 From: gargkc Dear Mr. Sadasivan Thanks for your e mail. In my opinion it is not proper that the Downloading should be treated as an Indicator of the quality of Papers. also it is not clear from the attached list which are the the second and third highest downloaded papers that have been authored by the scientists of your lab.however, a final decision about their quality can be taken only after a citation study of these papers. I may mention that of the 50 papers listed in the site you have refered 14 are review articles, which are cited more frequently than other articles. if you have any other query, pl. feel free to contact. regards K.C.Garg NISTADS

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