- LIS-Forum - ncsi.iisc.ernet.in

Guidelines for Appropriate List Behavior
by Dr.P.V.Konnur 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Dear All, I agree with Mr.Manjunath. It is too much to fight on the discussion forum. If they disagree to that extent, let them exchange mails on their individual mail addresses but not on the discussion forum. Let us stop it. There are many itelligent people who know little english and many English experts who know nothing in the subject. We need not argue so much on only one issue. We have so many new things to be discussed on the forum. The one like FAQs in Interviews etc, yes let new ideas be brought to all our notices. I visited the site refered by Mr.Manjunath, for all your convenience I have pasted the following few paragraphs of the Guidelines for appropriate List Behaviours. Let us at least try to follow them from now onwards. Thanks, Konnur. Guidelines for Appropriate List Behavior The following guidelines are offered as advice for how to best participate in this discussion in a manner that will both contribute to the experience of all readers and also reflect well on you. Say something substantial. Simply saying "I agree" (in so many words) or "I disagree" (in so many words) does not meet this guideline. Specific technical questions are, however, quite appropriate, as are brief answers to such questions. Say something new. Mere redundancy will not convince an opponent of their error. Explaining the same argument differently in an attempt to make them see the light has not been proven to be an effective strategy. "Getting the last word" is for children. We're all beyond the age when we should be concerned with being the one to end the argument. Just because you are the last to speak doesn't mean you won the argument. Agree to disagree. The likelihood of convincing someone to change a strongly held opinion is nil. State your case, but give up on the idea of converting the heathen. Take "conversations" off the list. When list interaction becomes two-sided (two individuals trading comments or arguments) it is a sign that you should take the discussion off the list and correspond with that person directly. If the discussion was of interest to the general membership you will see others posting on the topic as well. Remember that you are being judged by the quality of your contributions. No matter whether you are employed or not, or a certain age, or have a certain education, you can create a good professional reputation by how you contribute to a large electronic discussion like Web4Lib. On the other hand, you can ruin your reputation even faster and easier. NEVER send email in anger. Go ahead and compose a message in anger, since that may help you work through what you're angry about, but don't send it. Sleep on it. You will nearly always decide to not send it or to recompose it. There's a reason for that. Be civil. Treat others how you wish to be treated. No matter how insulting someone is to you, you will always look better to the bystanders (of which there are many, I hasten to remind you) by responding politely. Respect the rights of others. An electronic discussion is a commons. Your right to post ends at the right of others to not be insulted, badgered, or to have their time needlessly wasted. --- "G. K. Manjunath" <gkm(a)igidr.ac.in> wrote: > > I personally feel that, we had enough debate on this > issue and is time for > the LIS- FORUM to stop further discussion on it. My > apololgy, if the > moderator or the forum members feel otherwise. > > Many good suggestions have been offered by our friends. > Therefore, let > individuals decide the language in which they prefer to > communicate and > the language that is most required and accepted in their > organizations or > by the peer group. > > Needless to say that LIS FORUM accepts only English. > > The guidelines provided by Berkeley Digital Library site > for participating > in E-discussion seem to be very useful. Those interested > may find these at > > http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/ > > > thanks, > g.k.Manjunath > IGIDR, MUMBAI > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, A.V. Nagarathna wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > ........Response to Mr./Dr. Hiremath�� > > > > I am annoyed only because your arguments are not > logical. > > > > Basically members on this forum can offer their > suggestions when the > > argument is logical. > > > > I am surprised that you talk about decency! Can you > just read once again > > all your messages to this forum how decent the words > you have used�. > > Disservice�unwarranted�slaves to English�unfortunate > Indians�show > > oof...look down upon� > > By the way who are you to refer to others as > �unfortunate�� > > > > You are questioning me what is �show off�, it is you > who used these words > > in your message first time�if you can offer me > explanation what you mean > > by this.. I can give you reply� > > > > Don�t you understand even now, after reading several > messages on this > > forum explaining why you need to know English and when > you need it ? > > > > Who are you to declare Tamil is the language of > Bangalore? > > > > If you want to promote or advice usage of regional > languages, canvas in > > that language, why are you using English for this > purpose? Since you are > > opposing usage of English, first you have to implement > and stop using > > English before you advice others. > > > > In spite of several responses on this forum --- > explaining why English is > > essential, you are continuing to argue BLINDLY and > enforcing your �fixed > > concepts and ideas� on others. > > > > May be it is better to simply IGNORE messages with no > logical arguments, > > so that little time is saved. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Regards, > > AVNagarathna > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LIS-Forum mailing list > > LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum Dr.P.V.Konnur, University Librarian, Goa University Library, Taleigao Plateau, Goa - 403 206. Phone: 0832-2456031 (O) 0832-2451008 (R) __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/

1 0

"National Workshop on Open Source Software for Libraries"
by T R B Sarma 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Announcement for "National Workshop on Open Source Software for Libraries" to be held at ISEC, Bangalore between 4-5th, April 2005. The Institute for social and Economic Change (ISEC) is a multi-disciplinary research and training institute in Social Sciences. It is one of the major ICSSR research organizations established by Professor V K R V Rao, in the year 1972 in Bangalore. ISEC Library and NASSDOC-ICSSR will be jointly conducting a National Workshop on "Open Source Software for Libraries" between 4-5th, April 2005 at the campus of ISEC, Nagarabhavi PO, Dr. V.K.R.V Rao Avenue, Bangalore-560 072. The Institute is well equipped with fully air-conditioned seminar halls, a meeting room with Multi-media and OHP facilities. The Workshop is designed to be a lecture - cum - demonstration on the following topics: 1.. E Prints Software 2.. Web designing Technology for librarians 3.. Introduction on "Digitization of Library and Information Centres. 4.. DSPACE Software 5.. Open Source Software for libraries 6.. Open Source Digital Library Software etc., There is no registration fee for the course participants. Participants will get conference material and free boarding for two days. The organizers will provide accommodation by charging a nominal fee of Rs. 125/- per day per participant at institute's guesthouse. Intake of the participants has restricted to 30 members only. Preference will be given to Social Science institution library professionals. Registration will be allowed on first cum and first served basis. Interested participants may please fill the enclosed registration form and transmit to the undersigned through e-mail or post for consideration at the earliest. TRB SARMA Librarian cum Course Cooridinator Institute for Social and Economic Change (ISEC) Nagarabhavi, Bangalore. 560 072 (Karnataka) Telephone No.s 080-23215468/23215592 Extension 302 Fax: 080-23217008; E-mail trbsarma(a)isec.ac.in NATIONAL WORKSHOP ON "OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE FOR LIBRARIES" April 4-5, 2005 at ISEC, Banglaore - 560 072 Registration Form Name Mr/Ms/Dr : Designation & Official Address : Residential Address : Phones (Office and Res.) : Fax Nos. : E-mail : Accommodation needed : Yes or No Date: Signature TRB SARMA Librarian, ISEC Nagarabhavi, Bangalore. 560 072. E-mail : trbsarma(a)isec.ac.in Telephone: 080-23215468 Extn. 302 Announcement for "National Workshop on Open Source Software for Libraries" to be held at ISEC, Bangalore between 4-5 th , April 2005. The Institute for social and Economic Change (ISEC) is a multi-disciplinary research and training institute in Social Sciences. It is one of the major ICSSR research organizations established by Professor V K R V Rao, in the year 1972 in Bangalore . ISEC Library and NASSDOC-ICSSR will be jointly conducting a National Workshop on "Open Source Software for Libraries" between 4-5 th , April 2005 at the campus of ISEC, Nagarabhavi PO, Dr. V.K.R.V Rao Avenue, Bangalore-560 072 . The Institute is well equipped with fully air-conditioned seminar halls, a meeting room with Multi-media and OHP facilities. The Workshop is designed to be a lecture - cum - demonstration on the following topics: E Prints Software Web designing Technology for librarians Introduction on "Digitization of Library and Information Centres. DSPACE Software Open Source Software for libraries Open Source Digital Library Software etc., There is no registration fee for the course participants. Participants will get conference material and free boarding for two days. The organizers will provide accommodation by charging a nominal fee of Rs. 125/- per day per participant at institute's guesthouse. Intake of the participants has restricted to 30 members only. Preference will be given to Social Science institution library professionals. Registration will be allowed on first cum and first served basis. Interested participants may please fill the enclosed registration form and transmit to the undersigned through e-mail or post for consideration at the earliest. TRB SARMA Librarian cum Course Cooridinator Institute for Social and Economic Change (ISEC) Nagarabhavi, Bangalore. 560 072 (Karnataka) Telephone No.s 080-23215468/23215592 Extension 302 Fax: 080-23217008; E-mail trbsarma(a)isec.ac.in NATIONAL WORKSHOP ON "OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE FOR LIBRARIES" April 4-5, 2005 at ISEC, Banglaore - 560 072 Registration Form Name Mr/Ms/Dr : Designation & Official Address : Residential Address : Phones (Office and Res.) : Fax Nos. : E-mail : Accommodation needed : Yes or No Date: Signature TRB SARMA Librarian, ISEC Nagarabhavi, Bangalore. 560 072. E-mail : mailto:trbsarma@isec.ac.in trbsarma(a)isec.ac.in Telephone: 080-23215468 Extn. 302

1 0

Google Desktop Search Adds PDF, Multimedia.
by Farooque Shaheen 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Google has launched an updated version of its desktop search tool (desktop.google.com) today whose enhancements include the ability to search the full text of Adobe PDF files and the metadata of multimedia files (Music, Images &Videos). Thanks & Regards, Farooque Shaheen, Caritor India Ltd. Tel. 080-26678388 # 4105 Mobile-9342507449 Google �has launched an updated version of its desktop search tool (desktop.google.com) today whose enhancements include the ability to search the full text of Adobe PDF files and the metadata of multimedia files (Music, Images &Videos). Thanks & Regards, Farooque Shaheen, Caritor India Ltd. Tel. 080-26678388 # 4105 Mobile-9342507449

1 0

Don't Shoot the Dog!
by Mailing List Manager 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:31:24 +0530 From: Prafulla Chandra <prafulla(a)nisc.co.in> Dear All, I would like to buy a copy of the following book: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Extract from Amazon.com "Don't Shoot the Dog! : The New Art of Teaching and Training by KAREN PRYOR Paperback: 224 pages Publisher: Bantam; Revised edition (August 3, 1999) ISBN: 0553380397 Product Dimensions: 8.3 x 5.3 x 0.6 inches Shipping Weight: 7.2 ounces. (View shipping rates and policies) Average Customer Review: based on 60 reviews. (Write a review) Amazon.com Sales Rank in Books: #866 List price $15 Amazon.com price $10.20" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is this book available in any Indian bookshop/library/personal collection? If not, what is the least expensive mode of acquiring it from abroad. I feel that amazon.com's shipping & handling charges are too high for an average Indian buyer who wishes to develop his personal collection. I would like to hear the experiences of list members on the use of credit card for such purchases from abroad. Many thanks in advance for your help. Sincerely T..V. Prafulla Chandra Senior Editor P.S. By the way, the title of the book is quite misleading. Although the book seems to deal with dog training, in fact, it is meant mainly for humans (as well as for dog trainers!) and offers valuable insights on human behaviour and its modification. Amazon.com offers a few pages. Enjoy! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NISC Export Services Pvt. Ltd. (an affiliate of NISC International, Inc. USA) S-1 Ballad Estates, St.Ann's School Road, Tarnaka, Hyderabad 500 017 Andhra Pradesh, India - Tel:+91 40 27001517 Tel/Fax:+91 40 27002538 WWW.NISC.COM A company in service to NISC worldwide. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1 0

free E-books on Biological Science (fwd)
by Mailing List Manager 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 02:17:09 -0800 (PST) From: raghavendra naidu <raghav_lis(a)yahoo.com> Dear Sir/Madam/Friends, iam doing my academic project on "E- Resource on Biological science".so if you know any free e-books and e-journals relating to Biological science please send me. with warm regards Raghavendra Dept.of Library and Information Science Manasagangothri Mysore.

1 0

clarification
by Mailing List Manager 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Date: 4 Mar 2005 09:05:14 -0000 From: anju govindani <anjugovindani(a)rediffmail.com> Dear friends, Please inform the qualifications of Asst. Librarian according to UGC norms to serve in college? A master degree in Science + B. LIS is sufficient for the same or M.LIS is = essential for the post? I am confused ,An immediate response is really appreciated. anju govindani

1 0

RE: [LIS-Forum] Communication skills
by Mailing List Manager 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 07:15:14 -0500 (EST) From: UPENDRA PANDYA <upendra(a)myway.com> Hello, Communication skill is essential in this information age. We are as a Librarian and information provider, we require to presentation such information in perticular form and style and some time at the occation of seminar, conferance, etc.. Congratulation to the Head of the department of LIS , Mysore University to make the decision to introduce this subject as a one paper in the MLis study. Thanks. Upendra PandyaV S Library,Indian Institute of ManagementVastrapur Road, AHMEDABADE-Mail : Upendra(a)myway.com Upendraiim(a)rediffmail.com Mobile : 9879301847Phone : (079) 26324979 -

1 0

Digital Library
by Casius C Issac 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Dear subscribers I am a new member to these discussion lists . Grateful for your views on subject topic What is a Digital library ? Is it the combination of the following activities 1 Accessing library catalogue online (WEBOPAC) 2 accessing online commercial databases through Internet 3 creation of databases of subject specific or document specific (PhD Thesis; Project Reports ; reprints ) 4 Communicating electronically among librarians and user population In addition to the above anything more is included in the concept of digital library ? . How far the concept developed from theoretical aspect to practicality ? I presume that digital libraries helps librarians to improve service efficiencies to their patrons. Can I request subscribers of these lists to list few advantages they gained in their service efficiency due to digitalisation to their library .( preferably own experience ). Regards Casius Dear subscribers I am a new member to these discussion lists . Grateful for your views on subject topic What is a Digital library ? Is it the combination of the following activities 1 Accessing library catalogue online (WEBOPAC) 2 accessing online commercial databases through Internet 3 creation of databases of subject specific or document specific (PhD Thesis; Project Reports ; reprints ) 4 Communicating electronically among librarians and user population In addition to the above anything more is included in the concept of digital library ? . How far the concept developed from theoretical aspect to practicality ? I presume that digital libraries helps librarians to improve service efficiencies to their patrons. Can I request subscribers of these lists to list few advantages they gained in their service efficiency due to digitalisation to their library .( preferably own experience ). Regards Casius

1 0

Fw: OA and the developing world
by Subbiah Arunachalam 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Friends: Attached is a short article I wrote for the National Medical Journal of India a few months ago. Best wishes. Arun

1 0

Language issues
by Rajesh P 06 Mar '05

06 Mar '05

Dear Moderator, All languages have their place under the sun with varying degree of importance. You need your mother tongue, your regional language, your national language and also English. I sincerely feel that one should not be at the cost of other. Moreover, it is natural for human beings to take pride in their own language. Time to put an end to this thread ? Regards. Raj ===== __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/

1 0