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SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB (I.R.N.Goudar) (Saitra Sirohi) and ohers
by Jai Haravu 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

Dear Members A number of useful thoughts have emerged from the discussion on SOUL, Inflibnet's role, NewGenLib and Koha. I would also like to add to the discussion, hopefully in an objective and non-partisan manner. 1.. First and foremost we need to accept the fact that open source solutions (in all domains and application areas) are increasingly considered to be not only credible alternatives but also cost-effective in the long run if the community behind such software is an active participant. Good examples of strong communities are seen in Koha and Evergreen. 2.. Part of the reason why Koha and Evergreen have strong communities is because of strong social and cultural influencess in the countries where they are most actively used, e.g., USA. I must comment here that in India, we do not have the same approach either because we don't think it is needed or simply we do not have the needed infrastructure. For instance, even today many libraries in India do not have relaible Internet access. In such cases, how can we expect better community participation. The extent to which members of a community support each other (in spite of commercial support) in India leaves much to be desired. I am afraid, our score card on sharing our resources and knowledge freely with other professionals via forums and local associations is poor. 3.. NewGenLib is a good example of inadequate community involvement. We have trained over 1000 library and IT staff in India in NewGenLib but we do not see many of them participating in community forums. 4.. I agree with Mr Mahesh of NISCAIR, that in a competitive world, all manner of products have a place in the sun. Libraries should be free to choose what they consider is useful to them. 5.. I believe that an important consideration in choosing a software is the extent to which it supports local practices. I am aware that NewGenLib has attempted to cater to the many practices (some may not be considered good practices) that libraries in India follow. For instance, some libraries still ask for quotations from vendors before they place orders for books. I know for sure that in NewGenLib we have been called upon (often at great expense) to customize the software to suit a unique requirement in a library. Similarly, in India, bodies such as AICTE and NAAC ask for ceratin types of reports during their annual inspection visits. Software developed in India (SOUL and NewGenLib) would have provided for these. 6.. Equally important is the potential that a software has to take note of and leverage new technologies, and of the rapid shifts that are taking place, e.g., the need for API's, web services, open schemas and social web features. 7.. All said and done, I would agree with the view that SOUL should also be made open source so that there would be more options for libraries. When a poorly funded venture behind NewGenLib could be made open source, I really do not see why a well funded, quasi-governmental agency cannot make it open source. 8.. Finally, I would like to state that in this world "There is no such thing as a Free Lunch". Open source developers have to survive and if they charge for services these should be paid for willingly. Koha has the backing of commercial companies in the US and elsewhere and I am sure they will not be sustainable only wth Koha if libraries do not pay for services. In the case of NewGenLib, I am aware that we have many problems convincing libraries and managements that open source does not mean FREE, it is more abour FREEDOM of choice, freedom to change, freedom from vendor hegemony, freedom to ask for new features, etc.. Thanks. Haravu Trustee, Kesavan Inst of Information and Knowledge Management 1.. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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FREE Open Access-Conf
by I.R.N.Goudar 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

NO REGISTRATION FEE (All are welcome, PLEASE FORWARD THIS MAIL TO INTERESTED, Circulate in your Institute for Faculty, Scientists, LIS staff,etc.) One Day Conference on Scholarly Communication in India in the Age of the Commons(Open Access) 26th March, 2009: 9.30AM - 4.15PM Venie: S.R. Valluri Auditorium National Aerospace Laboratories, Bangalore-560017 --------------- ORGANIZERS: National Aerospace Laboratories (as a part of its Golden Jubilee Celebrations) Indian Academy of Sciences Centre for Internet and Society PARTICIPANTS: Welcome to Policy makers, Academicians, Scientists, Editors, Publishers, Media persons, Librarians, etc. TOPICS COVERED: Scholarly Communication, Research Publication Issues, Copyrights of Publishing Authors, Publishers Attitude, Open Access (OA) Movement, OA Scenario in the World and India OA Declarations, OA Channels: OA Journals, Repositories, OA Policy: National and Institutional Level, OA Challenges: Economic, Societal Impact of OA on Science Communication INAUGURAL KEYNOTE: Prof. HS Mukunda, Vice President, Indian Academy of Sciences SPEAKERS: Prof. John Willinsky, Stanford University Prof. Leslie Chan, University of Toronto Dr D K Sahu, MedKnow Publications Dr. Sunil Abraham, Director, Centre for Internet and Society PANEL DISCUSSION: 2.45 - 4.15 pm "Scholarly Communication and Openness: Emerging Trends" Prof. P Balaram, Director, IISc & Editor, Curr. Sci. CHAIRMAN Prof. John Willinsky, Stanford University Panelist Prof. Leslie Chan, University of Toronto Panelist Dr. A.R. Upadhya, Director, NAL Panelist Mr. N.V. Sathyanarayana, MD,Informatics India Panelist Prof. Subbiah Arinachalam, Centre for Internet and Soc. Panelist BACKGROUND: Open Access to the scientific literature means the removal of barriers, including price barrier, for accessing scholarly work. In today's knowledge based society the advent of Internet and widespread and easy access to scientific information are facilitating research and innovation. Open Access is not only changing the nature of scholarly communication but even the way research is carried out. Indeed open access is the bedrock on which the emerging global research library initiative is being built. Scientists and scientific institutions in India - some of them to be precise - have moved up in the value chain in that they access information and disseminate their findings often through barrier-free electronic channels. Out of about 4500 open access journals (OAJ) world over, India accounts for 150 titles. The major Indian contributors for OAJ include Indian Academy of Sciences, Indian National Science Academy, MedKnow Publications and NISCAIR. About 50 institutes have set up their institutional open access repositories including IISc, NAL, NIO, RRI, IIAP, IITs, etc. Prof. Samir Brahmachari, Director General of CSIR, came up with the Open Source Drug Discovery programme as an alternative to the traditional patent-driven model of drug research. Recently CSIR has adopted open access policy as recommended by its Group of Open Access Science Publications. Thus open access - both for accessing worldwide information and for making our own research more visible - is not new to India. But one must admit that considering the size of India's research and higher education enterprise what we have achieved so far is utterly inadequate to commensurate with our ambition to become a knowledge power. We have a long way to go. And the first step is to adopt open access nationwide. This one day conference on "Conference on Scholarly Communication in India in the Age of the Commons" is organized to take stock of the current developments in Open Access and to highlight the issues that would need to be addressed to enable a wider access to scientific knowledge and to enhance the visibility of research performed in India. PS: While spot registration is allowed, we request you to kindly register through e-mail along with name, designation, address, contact telephone and e-mail. We have not made any arrangements for accommodation. Conference Site: http://www.icast.org.in/events/OA-Conf.html For more information please contact: Dr I R N Goudar Scientist 'G' and Head, ICAST National Aerospace Laboratories Airport Road, BANGALORE-560017 Tel:080-25086080 Fax:25260862 Email: goudar(a)nal.res.in -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. I.R.N. Goudar Tel: 91-80-25086081 Sci G & Head, Information Centre for 91-80-25235315 Aerospace Science and Technology Fax: 91-80-25268072 National Aerospace Laboratories E-mail:goudar@css.nal.res.in Airport Road, BANGALORE-560 017 India http://www.icast.org.in/staff/goudar.html -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Admission in Online Certificate Courses
by Charu 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

Respected Friends, Greetings for the day, Indian Law Institute, Bhagwan Das Road, New Delhi has announced following *Online Certificate Courses* for *April 2009* batch… *1. **Cyber laws* (This course will cover the fundamentals of Cyber Law and Cyber World, Regulatory Framework, Cyber Crime and E-Commerce) *2. **Intellectual Property Rights and Information Technology in this Internet Age* (This course will cover the basic laws of Patents, Copyright, Trademarks and Management in IPRs) *Duration:* Three months commencing form 1st April 2009. *Fees:* Rs. 3500/- or 150 US $ (for foreign students) *Last Date:* *31st Mach 2009.* * * Application Form and other relevant details can be accessed from ILI’s website, i.e. www.ilidelhi.org. Regards, Miss Charu Mathur. Delhi. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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ISiM Development Dialogue (1) with Dr. Jessica Wallack, March 11, 2009, 3:00 p.m.
by Angrosh 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

International School of Information Management, University of Mysore ISiM Development Dialogue (1) Date: March 11, 2009 Time : 3.00 PM to 4.30 PM "Knowledge is power. Information is empowering" Development Dialogues is a series of small group interactive sessions to understand the different dimensions and challenges of development, especially from the perspective of transformative potential of data for development and democracy. An initiative called, WikiGyan - Data for decision making, democracy and development is currently underway at ISiM. WikiGyan is an effort to build both tools and systems for data management, data analytics, and visualisation. Huge amounts of data is generated and collected by the governments, non governmental organisations, academic and other organisations, across societal issues - elections, health, literacy, etc. WikiGyan facilitates the management of such societal data for development. The Development Dialogue (1) scheduled for March 11, 2009 at 3.00 PM will have the following two scholars: Dr. Jessca Wallack, Director, Centre for Development Finance and Professor, Institute for Financial and Management Research, Chennai Ms. Shannon Stanhake, Senior Researcher, Centre for Development Finance, Chennai Discussants in this Dialogue include the following: Mr. P. Manivannan, IAS, Deputy Commissioner of Mysore Mr. R.L. Rinawma, Commissioner of Income Tax, Mysore Prof. V.K.Natraj Prof. P.K.Mishra Prof. Umapathi Brief Bio of the Scholars Dr. Jessica Wallack Dr. Jessica Wallack is Director of the Centre for Development Finance and Professor, Institute for Financial and Management Research. Her work focuses on the factors that create successful partnerships and dialogue between entrepreneurs, NGOs, corporations, and governments. Current projects include research on the politics and economics of private participation in infrastructure development in India and Latin America as well as evaluation and design of various e-governance technologies for local governments in India. She is also working on several projects on generation and dissemination of development data, and especially on data's potential role in supporting activism and local government performance. Dr. Wallack holds a Ph.D. from Stanford University Graduate School of Business and a B.A. from Harvard University. Ms. Shannon Spanhake Ms. Shannon Spanhake is Senior Researcher at Centre for Development Finance. She was recently named Grace Hopper's "Top 100 Women Innovating Science and Technology" and was rewarded with a NextEarth Fellowship after reaching the semi-finalist round in the Buckminster Fuller Inventor's competition. Her research investigates the transformative potential for technology to enable policy discourse by providing access and legibility to information through alternate modes of articulation in the production of knowledge. Spanhake serves as a technology adviser to the Ministry of the Environment and the Department of Energy in Peru, the IDA of Singapore, and is collaborating with Science agencies in both Nigeria and the UK. Thanks and regards Angrosh ********************************************* Angrosh M.A. Project Manager International School of Information Management University of Mysore, Manasagangotri Mysore - 570 006 Tel: +91-821-2514699; +91-821-2411417 Fax: +91-821-2519209 Email: angrosh(a)isim.ac.in ********************************************** -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Views on Forums Postings
by DINESH SIDDAIAH 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

Views on Forums Postings I would like to express few things about Barman reply on activitie sof various Forums. Some of the issues repeatedly appearing in the forums may be boring to old members, but it is really useful to new members. If i reply about job posting, I think only few might have settled in LIS jobs, what about others who are looking for better opportunities. I feel job updates should be there. And you are telling forum news are wasting of time. If u feel it is waste of time you pl. skip the known postings. I feel LIS forum realling doing good except few repeated issues. This is my personal opinion. Thanking You Dinesh -- Dr. Dinesh K. S. MLISc., Ph.D. Selection Grade Librarian, Nagarjuna College of Engineering & Technology, Devanahalli, Bengaluru - 562 110. Ph: +91-9845102382, Email: dinesh.ncet(a)gmail.com Blog: ksdinesh.blogspot.com, Official Blog: libraryofncet.blogspot.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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NewGenLib workshop
by Jai Haravu 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

Dear Members A reminder that the next hands-on workshop on NewGenLib will be held during 24-26 Mar 2009 at the Dept. of Library and Information Science (DLIS), Mysore University. The workshop, designed as an intensive one and will emphasize both concepts as well an individual hands-on exercises. The details of the workshop and registration for it can be downloaded from: http://www.verussolutions.biz/web/newgenlib_workshop_mysore.doc Haravu -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Required Librarian / Asst.Librarian for an Engineering College - Hyderabad
by Sridhar K 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

Dear All Aryabhata Institute of Technology & Science Engineering College requires the following Library Professionals from Hyderabad region, Please may forward your resumes to the maild id given below 1. Libraian - 01 - MLISc with good exposure to computer knowledge 2. Asst. Libraian - 01 - MLISc/BLISc with good exposure to computer knowledge Aryabhata Institute of Technology & Science Near Maheshwaram 'X" Roads, Rangareddy Dist. Andhra Pradesh e-mail: kanakanala(a)gmail.com for further information visit the website - www.aryabhata-its.ac.in -- K SRIDHAR REDDY BMKC, Hyderabad -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Re: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB
by gmahesh＠niscair.res.in 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

Dear Members, Dr. Goudar has raised certain very valid points. We need to certainly laud the efforts that have gone into the development of NewGenLib. The software has emerged as a globally competitive open source ILMS and that is a commendable feat which all of us should feel proud about. But in a free market, I am not sure if it is appropriate to align with any one product as suggested. Dr. Goudar himself has pointed out that many softwares in the past did not survive. That is because these softwares were not accepted by libraries for whatever reasons including poor after sales, no marketing, partially developed and so on. Therefore, in my humble opinion, we should with an open mind accept the developments that are happening, be it Koha, SOUL or NewGenLib and leave it to the libraries to adopt whichever software they are comfortable with. Regards, G. Mahesh NISCAIR ----------------------------------------- This email was sent using NISCAIR's web mail service. "" http://niscair.res.in/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Re: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB (I.R.N.Goudar)
by savitra sirohi 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

All, As part of a private sector software company offering commercial services for Koha, kindly allow me to offer my 2 cents on this interesting topic: 1. Why ignore Koha: the discussion inexplicably ignores Koha. Dr. Goudar even said "stop promoting Koha". Let us remember following about Koha vis a vis Newgenlib: * Wider worldwide installed base * Stronger vendor support (14 worldwide) * Wider and more active user community * Stronger feature set * A true open source software (also older) that over time has matured the powerful open source software development processes The future potential of any open source software is directly related to these factors and in my view it is likely Koha will retain and even extend its advantages over other packages. 2. SOUL as open source: This is an interesting thought. The market is better served by several competing open source and commercial packages. The problem is SOUL is Windows based. Windows licenses will likely become a barrier to adoption and market adoption is the oxygen that drives open source software development. But SOUL can only benefit by becoming open source, this might be something worth trying. 3. Open Source Software Support & Role of Government entities: People have called for Government entities to support open source software. This is a welcome move, but the implicit assumption is that the private sector is unwilling or unable to offer services at low rates. Would like to point out that today we are 1 of 3 private companies offering Koha support in India. Our rates are comparable to those offered by Government entities. Also the private sector in general is more innovative, responsive and service oriented. Governments should to get involved only in case of market failures, today when India is an IT powerhouse, taxpayer's money is better spent on more pressing areas. A transparent, competitive, mostly private sector ecosystem will best serve the consumers and the country. Thank You, Savitra Sirohi MD, Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) > From: "I.R.N.Goudar" <goudar(a)nal.res.in> > Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB > To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0903091302140.24277(a)css.nal.res.in> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Dear Professionals, > Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis-forum soon after > the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My message answers > few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin in discussing > the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, Suchika, etc. > At this juncture of avilability of open source software, what should be > our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like INFLIBNET, > NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc should do? Government has > spent lot of money various agencies for the development of good library > automation system. Some of them were cooked half? Discontinued further > developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? Some of > them did not get good support after sale or implementation? While I have > full confidence in the capability and vision of present director of > INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my basic question > is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts and spend > money on such developments, when so many open source softawre are > available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source flatform, uses only > open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national level we > should have customization, migration and support service > arrangements on any open system we adopt. MY LIS-FORUM MESSGE SENT ON > 11 JAN 2008, GIVES SOME SUGGESTIONS IN THIS MATTER (Copy enclosed below) > Goudar > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:25:02 +0530 (IST) > From: I.R.N.Goudar <goudar(a)css.nal.res.in> > To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Subject: [LIS-Forum] NewGenLib-What next? > > > Dear Professionals, > > Great news! NewGenLib, library automation software has become open source > software. I appreciate the initiative and gesture of Dr. LJ Haravu and his > team of Keshvan Kesavan Institute of Information and Knowledge Management, > Hyderabad and also those who are behind this move. I am proud of this unique > gift for L&IS and KM community in the world by Indian librarian community. I > have seen the demonstration of this software, it uses open source platforms and > other tools, confirms to open source standards unlike many commercial software. > The features and the functionalities are of high standard. I am quite sure that > this move will revolutionise library automation and digital library activities > in a big way especially in India. > > This welcome development raises many questions: > > a. What would be the role of Mr. Haravu and his colleagues now onwards? > b. Who would support the further development of NewGenLib? > c. Who would give the support for installation, customization and > porting the whole data if one would like to migrate to this software? > > d. What about the libraries who have baought NewGenLib earlier? etc > > I have following suggestions in this matter: > > a. Few Government institutions like DESIDOC, DSIR, NIC, INFLIBNET and > Erstwhile INSDOC also have developed library automation software like > Maithriyee, Sanjay, SOUL, E-Granthalaya, Granthalaya, Suchika, etc. I > strongly feel that all these institutions and others interested should put > their efforts in further development and implementation of NewGenLib in all > academic, specialized, public and industrial libraries in India in a synergized > manner instead of wasting their manpower, time and money on their products. > > b. All Indian LIS schools should teach NewGenLib software as a part of their > curriculum. Institutions like, DRTC, NCSI, NISCAIR can take the lead for > developmental activities and training program. Keshavani Institute should get > sizeable aid from Governmental agencies to carry forward the activity. Dr. > Haravu's group can help the individual libraries for installation, > customization, porting, etc and charge nominally for the service. > > c. National Knowledge Commission, ILA, IASLIC, SIS and other library > associations should make note of this development and extend suitable help and > guidance. > > d. Departments of Public Libraries of different states should not only adopt > this software, but try to extend their help in the development of this > software. > > e. We should stop promoting KOHA in our country. > > f. All professionals should come forward in further development of NewGEnLib > and should help to compile good manual. Better we have a discussion group > specifically meant for this puepose. > > g. NewGenLib has a nice module for Union Catalogue. We should make use of this > to have Union Cataloges say of all Universities, State level Public Libraries, > all CSIR Labs, etc. > > Initially we should hold one day brain storming round table meeting of > selected 15-20 top level Indian librarians in the country who have > successfully automated their libraries in a big way and few LIS Faculty along > with Dr. Haravu and his technical team. I request Dr. ARD Prasad of DRTC to > take a lead in this matter. > > ONCE AGAIN CONGRATULATIONS AND HEARTFELT THANKS TO DR. HARAVU AND KESHAVAN > INSTITUTE. > > Goudar > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. I.R.N. Goudar Tel: 91-80-25086081 > Sci F & Head, Information Centre for 91-80-25235315 > Aerospace Science and Technology Fax: 91-80-25268072 > National Aerospace Laboratories E-mail:goudar@css.nal.res.in > Airport Road, BANGALORE-560 017 India > http://www.icast.org.in/staff/goudar.html > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Re: [LIS-Forum] Fw: INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive for College
by Dr. S M.SHAFI 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

The reaction of prof . Laxman Rao is timely and significant . The professionals and leaders should debate , experiment and resOlve to adopt FOSS in their profeesional endeavours. but it does not absolve associtions and nationals institutions of their prime duty to DEVELOP, upgrade VARIOUS softwares with due concern to the economics keepig in view number and level of libraries for overalll development of the society. best wishes Prof S M SHAFI On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 Prof.N.Laxman Rao. wrote : > >helo friends > >it is so unfortunate many have purchased SOUL and are experiencing both gud and bad. why can't they write their experiences. INFLIBNET is an institution and people come and go, but Institution survives. we had lot of expectations from the earlier heads including the present head, who is efficient, successful and matured professional. > >people must be able to forward their real (no bias) reactions both negative and positive. It is so sad that we do not react on any issue especially burning issues relating to our profession. we need to also OBJECTIVELY react on several issues such as performance of associations, organisations (such as NISCAIR, NATIONAL LIBRARY) book depositary act, NKC recommendations (i want to bring to ur notice that the Central Advisory Board of Education, CABE has rejected recommendations). > >LET US NOT TAKE THE INDIVIDUALS AS A CASE AND KEEP QUITE DUE TO OUR RELATION / OBLIGATION TO THEM AS THE INSTITUTIONS AND PROFESSION IS IMPORTANT. > >I WROTE THE COMENT ON SOUL based on more than 100 installations in Andhra Pradesh, where not more than single digit (if i am right it is just two colleges are using partially (one of them is Mr Laxma Reddy). our comments and reactions enables the concerned to re-examine the issues for better. > >as some one suggested that the cost of SOUL is also very high. one of the comment that is stated is that it is gud on the basis of evaluation but not on real use? even the INFLIBNET can opt for NEWGENLIB and develop and provide service (iam not an advocate for single software). we can also think of other open source software also? we can see the LINUX, a open source software the way it is developing at faster rate. > >ULTIMATELY IT IS THE PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE TO USE AND ENJOY OR SUFFER BY CHOOSING A SOFTWARE. > >WITH MANY YOUNGSTERS, WHO ARE DYNAMIC NEED TO COME FORWARD AND CLAIM UR RIGHT TO LEARN AND WORK. > >WITH BEST WISHES TO ALL MY PROFESSIONAL FRIENDS > >LAXMAN RAO > >--- On Sat, 7/3/09, S K DEsale <skdesale(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: S K DEsale <skdesale(a)gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Fw: INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive for College librararies > > Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 11:22 AM > > Dear Professionals, > > > > SOUL is also good software and it is also good to see that > > INFLIBNET is come > > up with new version.Since INFLIBNET already spend lot of > > time and money on > > SOUL so there is no point in discarding this software. > > Instead of that > > INFLBNET should think of making it open source. This will > > save > > INFLIBNET from spending on development of this software. > > INFLIBNET should > > spend more on training of this software so that more and > > more people start > > using this software. It will help to identify the problems > > in software and > > those can be corrected. > > > > I am agreed with Prof Rao that NEWGENLIB is better > > software. I have > > installed NEWGENLIB but I have problem in importing data > > from libsys to > > NEWGENLIB. Can anybody guide me on that? > > > > On 3/5/09, Prof. N. Laxman Rao. <naglaxman(a)yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > i hav one question to all of u, do u think tht the > > SOUL satisfy the needs > > > of academic institution. every one feels tht it is not > > user friendly and the > > > features are not really tht gud. still the INFLIBNET > > is spending huge money > > > on development and in turn we donot get service. > > regarding the product i > > > request all the professionals to give their practical > > expereince in view of > > > other software including NEWGENLIB. > > > i feel tht whn such a wonderful software is there the > > INFLIBNET shd make > > > attempts to develop the open source software and train > > the library > > > professionals from colleges in using the software. let > > the INFLIBNET join > > > with the KESAVAN INSTITUTE with a MOU and provide > > cheap but better service. > > > i will appreciate all the professionals to react > > whether the INFLIBNET shd > > > spend money on unfinished product with no or meagre > > support? > > > > > > an expert director, Dr Jagdish Arora shd seriously > > think of this and let > > > the INFLIBNET NOT waste on these things? > > > > > > thanks > > > laxman rao > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 5/3/09, ravindra kale > > <kale_ravi(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > From: ravindra kale <kale_ravi(a)yahoo.com> > > > > Subject: INFLIBNET has launched new Version of > > Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive > > > for College librararies > > > > Date: Thursday, 5 March, 2009, 11:39 AM > > > > Respected Moderator, > > > > > > > > Kindly published this massage. > > > > > > > > Dear Library Professionals, > > > > > > > > Today, INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul > > 2.0. The > > > > Terms and Condition and price are available on > > the following > > > > link. > > > > > > > > http://www.inflibnet.ac.in/soul/SOUL2rates.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > The Price is too expensive. INFLIBNET had > > introduced - > > > > AMC- Annual Maintenance Charges. As UGC Funded > > Institution > > > > like INFLIBNET Should rethink about the Price > > structure. > > > > Specially In Limited Version / College version > > they should > > > > provide the Software between the price 15,000 To > > 20,000 > > > > Rupees and 1 lak records and AMC âShould be > > maintain > > > > between 3,000 to 5,000 Thousand Rupees. This is > > my humble > > > > request and suggestion To Dr. Jagdish Arora, > > Director, > > > > INFLIBNET Centre, Ahmedabad. > > > > This is what I feel and want to share with you. > > Kindly give your > > > > suggestions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ravindra Suryakant Kale > > > > Librarian > > > > Narmada College of Management > > > > MBA Programme, > > > > Shukla Tirth Road > > > > Zadeshwer â 392 011 > > > > Bharuch > > > > Gujarat > > > > Email : kale_ravi(a)yahoo.com > > > > Phone : 9427159186 > > > > Dated : 05/03/2009 > > > > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > > >_______________________________________________ >LIS-Forum mailing list >LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in >http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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