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Communication and presentation skills are not English language centric, Classification and cataloguing.........
by Jayadev P Hiremath 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hi, Lot's of initiatives by Mysore University L & IS Department and others too. Though commendable, I am still unable to digest the fact that everything is terribly English centric. To begin with ...Communication skills and Presentation skills can be put into action in any language. You do not need mastery in English language to show off your competencies in Communication and Presentation skills. PowerPoint will certainly come in handy !! Mysore University is in Karnataka and the regional language is Kannada. There is a vast amount of Knowledge available in the regional language, thousands of books are published every year in Kannada. All the public and academic libraries in Karnataka, stock Kannada books. Old Kannada manuscripts are a source of history. Technical processing of these books is hampered due to lack of in-depth Kannada language skills of L & IS professionals . I would like to know what Mysore University L & IS is doing for the language of the land. Taking pride in producing Library Science graduates with all the English language, Communication, Presentation and IT skills and all the soft skiils sounds fantastic But does anybody think of the regional languages or the National language ? Doesn't Mysore University have to bother about this. Majority of the LIS teachers in India are fully concentrating on imparting knowledge directly relevant to L & IS sphere and they are the ones who need to be appreciated. English language, communication and presentation skills and other soft skills are secondary and need not be taught in a PG Course devoted to a specialized field. This would not only lead to diversion of limited resources but also affect the students who have just two years to learn about library and information science, gain a solid foundation and build their whole career upon it. All the softskills required for survival in the big bad world of WORKING can be picked up over a period of time or instantly from Training shops. With high unemployment rates there is no possiblity of Campus interviews or Job fairs during LIS Conferences. An essential skill for a freshly minted LIS graduate would be...... how to write a resume, how to hunt for a job and how to face an interview ? Does any LIS Department in India teach this ? Classification, Cataloguing and Indexing of Books : In India we keep reinventing the wheel. The same monograph is classified, catalogued and indexed in thousands libraries by thousands of professionals. It's high time this duplication of work comes to an end. The time, money and resources consumed by this task is phenomenal and can be put to better use in serving the customers. With the advent of library automation and internet penetration we can easily download the bibliographical details of monographs inclusive of call numbers and keywords from various WebPACs and integrate them into individual library's databases, may be after incorporating certain local variations. We are in the twenty first century and the days or original cataloging at individual library level are over, especially with respect to titles published in English. Copy cataloging should be embraced whole heartedly. With regards. Jayadev P Hiremath

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by Jayadev P Hiremath 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Dear Ramesh, This is commendable. I do hope other Universities take note of this and organise such fruitful activity which benefit fresh graduates. Regards. Jayadev On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 11:47:04 +0530, Dr. Ramesh B <bramesha(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear Jayadev, > > In response to your comment in the list form I would like to bring to > your kind notice that the Department of Information Science, University of > Madras is conducting campus interviews for fresh graduates and at the same > time we are giving ideas who to face the interview and writing a resume. > Very recently we had conducted such interviews in our department, there are > three candidates have qualified in this process. > > This is for your kind information. > > With good regards, > > Ramesh > > **********------------------- > Dr. RAMESH > LECTURER, > DEPT. OF INFORMATION SCIENCE, > UNIVERSITY OF MADRAS, > CHENNAI - 600 005. > PHONE: 044 - 28442376 (R) > 044 - 25368778 Extn. 278 > 044 - 25385078 > E-mail: bramesha(a)hotmail.com > bramesha(a)rediffmail.com > >From: Jayadev P Hiremath <jayadevph(a)gmail.com> >Reply-To: Jayadev P > Hiremath <jayadevph(a)gmail.com> >To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in >Subject: > [LIS-Forum] Communication and presentation skills are not Englishlanguage > centric, Classification and cataloguing......... >Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 > 12:02:49 +0300 > >Hi, > >Lot's of initiatives by Mysore University L & IS > Department and others >too. Though commendable, I am still unable to digest > the fact that >everything is terribly English centric. To begin with > ...Communication >skills and Presentation skills can be put into action in > any language. >You do not need mastery in English language to show off your > >competencies in Communication and Presentation skills. PowerPoint >will > certainly come in handy !! > >Mysore University is in Karnataka and the > regional language is >Kannada. There is a vast amount of Knowledge available > in the regional >language, thousands of books are published every year in > Kannada. All >the public and academic libraries in Karnataka, stock Kannada > books. >Old Kannada manuscripts are a source of history. Technical > processing >of these books is hampered due to lack of in-depth Kannada > language >skills of L & IS professionals . I would like to know what Mysore > >University L & IS is doing for the language of the land. > >Taking pride in > producing Library Science graduates with all the >English language, > Communication, Presentation and IT skills and all >the soft skiils sounds > fantastic But does anybody think of the >regional languages or the National > language ? Doesn't Mysore >University have to bother about this. > >Majority > of the LIS teachers in India are fully concentrating on >imparting knowledge > directly relevant to L & IS sphere and they are >the ones who need to be > appreciated. English language, communication >and presentation skills and > other soft skills are secondary and need >not be taught in a PG Course > devoted to a specialized field. This >would not only lead to diversion of > limited resources but also affect >the students who have just two years to > learn about library and >information science, gain a solid foundation and > build their whole >career upon it. > >All the softskills required for > survival in the big bad world of >WORKING can be picked up over a period of > time or instantly from >Training shops. > >With high unemployment rates > there is no possiblity of Campus >interviews or Job fairs during LIS > Conferences. An essential skill >for a freshly minted LIS graduate would > be...... how to write a >resume, how to hunt for a job and how to face an > interview ? Does any >LIS Department in India teach this ? > > >Classification, Cataloguing and Indexing of Books : In India we keep > >reinventing the wheel. The same monograph is classified, catalogued >and > indexed in thousands libraries by thousands of professionals. It's >high > time this duplication of work comes to an end. The time, money >and > resources consumed by this task is phenomenal and can be put to >better use > in serving the customers. With the advent of library >automation and > internet penetration we can easily download the >bibliographical details of > monographs inclusive of call numbers and >keywords from various WebPACs and > integrate them into individual >library's databases, may be after > incorporating certain local >variations. We are in the twenty first century > and the days or >original cataloging at individual library level are over, > especially >with respect to titles published in English. Copy cataloging > should be >embraced whole heartedly. > >With regards. > >Jayadev P Hiremath > >_______________________________________________ >LIS-Forum mailing list > >LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > >http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > ________________________________ > Apply to over 75,000 jobs now. Post your CV on naukri.com today.

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Digital Library
by Thapar, Amit 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Dear friends, I wanted to know in detail about creation of digital library , its hardware and software requirements. Many of you know about the whole concept of Digital Library so, i think all of you will help me out. regards, Amit Thapar Library & Information Centre National Institute of Pharmaceutical Education & Research (NIPER) Sector-67, Phase-10 S.A.S.Nagar-160062, Punjab, INDIA Phone: 0172-2214682-87 Ext. 2073 Mobile: 09417419457 e-mail: amitt(a)niper.ac.in amit.niper(a)gmail.com http://www.niper.ac.in/ " The brain is a wonderful organ; it starts working the moment you get up in the morning and does not stop until you get into the office." Dear friends, I wanted to know in detail about creation of digital library , its hardware and software requirements. Many of you know about the whole concept of Digital Library so, i think all of you will help me out. regards, Amit Thapar Library & Information Centre National Institute of Pharmaceutical Education & Research (NIPER) Sector-67, Phase-10 S.A.S.Nagar-160062, Punjab, INDIA Phone: 0172-2214682-87 Ext. 2073 Mobile: 09417419457 e-mail: mailto:amitt@niper.ac.in amitt(a)niper.ac.in mailto:amit.niper@gmail.com amit.niper(a)gmail.com http://www.niper.ac.in/ http://www.niper.ac.in/ " The brain is a wonderful organ; it starts working the moment you get up in the morning and does not stop until you get into the office."

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GDN/BLDS Document Delivery Service
by Shyam Prasad pujar 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Dear Members, Global Development Network (GDN) and the British Library of Development Studies (BLDS) have teamed up to bring you the GDN/BLDS Document Delivery service to meet the information needs of research institutes in the developing and transition countries and can be accessed by GDNet Organization Contacts. If your organization do not have GDNET profile, go to the organization sign up page to create one. The costs of delivering the documents are covered by GDN so there are NO COSTS to you. This is a very good facility especially for Social Science libraries in India. More information can be found at: http://www.gdnet.org/online_services/journals/gdn_journal_services/document… Regards, S.M. Pujar ********************************************************************** Shamprasad M. Pujar Assistant Librarian Indira Gandhi Institute of Development Research Gen. Vaidya Marg, Film City Road Goregaon (East) MUMBAI-400 065 India %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% * Phone: (022) 28400919-21 Extn: 514 * * Fax: (022) 28402752 * * E-mail: pujar(a)igidr.ac.in * * URL: http://www.igidr.ac.in * %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

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Re: LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 24, Issue 5
by vasanth raj 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Dear Sir, its very fascinating week for LISC professionals.At last we break our shackles and come to know that English is the language which is very much need for us to communicate in this global village. But still there is lot of debate about weather one should have mastery over English language or not. Dr S.R. Ranganthan himself stated in one of his book " Reference services".That if he didn't not visit England and got associated with Some of leading professionals in England at that time.He could not able to introduce and practise the concept of reference service in India in a systematic way. Was Dr. Ranganthan communicated in regional language to get know about the Reference Service?. Even tourist guide in places like Agra, Delhi. Rajasthan etc are earning 40.000 to 50.000 in a season by explaining the history and cultural heritage of India to Western people in English If we are not associated with the other world it is very difficult for us to know the new developments.In regional language we can only able to know the tips of an iceberg. English is used from so many years and it is the livelihood for so many in this Information society. regards Vasantha Raju N Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Dear Sir, its very fascinating week for LISC professionals.At last we break our shackles and come to know that English is the language which is very much need for us to communicate in this global village. But still there is lot of debate about weather one should have mastery over English language or not. Dr S.R. Ranganthan himself stated in one of his book " Reference services".That if he didn't not visit England and got associated with Some of leading professionals in England at that time.He could not able to introduce and practise the concept of reference service in India in a systematic way. Was Dr. Ranganthan communicated in regional language to get know about the Reference Service?. Even tourist guide in places like Agra, Delhi. Rajasthan etc are earning 40.000 to 50.000 in a season by explaining the history and cultural heritage of India to Western people in English If we are not associated with the other world it is very difficult for us to know the new developments.In regional language we can only able to know the tips of an iceberg. English is used from so many years and it is the livelihood for so many in this Information society. regards Vasantha Raju N http://in.rd.yahoo.com/specials/mailtg/*http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matri… Yahoo! India Matrimony : Find your life partner http://in.rd.yahoo.com/specials/mailtg2/*http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matr… online .

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Connotea-Free Reference Management Service from Nature
by Madhuresh 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Nature Publishing Group has developed a tool to help you store, manage and share your online references and links. Connotea is a free, easy-to-use service, where you can save and annotate reference lists and links with one click, and discover new publications by viewing other user's links. In Connotea, every user's links are visible both to visitors and to every other user, and different users' libraries are linked together through the use of common tags or common bookmarks. Connotea also recognises links to certain websites, and automatically collects the bibliographic information for the article or book that is being linked to. The great advantage is that you can get to know the persons with similar interest and see their stored reference links. Also every article listing on Connotea has an RSS link at the bottom of the page. This allows you to be notified of new additions to the page by subscribing to the RSS feed in your RSS reader. However many reference management tools are available on the net but those are for general purposes. This tool is basically developed for research purpose with some value additions. I believe this resource will be useful for librarians and researchers. Point your browser to http://www.connotea.org/ Regards, Madhuresh Singhal Aurigene Discovery Technologies Limited, Electronic City, phase II, Hosur Road, Bangalore 560100 Phone 28521314-16 Ext.- 422 Mobile 98861 82822 E-mail: madhureshsinghal(a)yahoo.com http://nettalk2.tripod.com/

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Articles on Patents
by anand ulaya 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Dear Members Pls send me articles on 1.Software Patents 2. Computer Programme Patents With regards anandulaya Anand U --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Dear Members � Pls send me articles on � �1.Software Patents �2. Computer Programme Patents � With regards � anandulaya � Anand U Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web

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Communication skills
by Mailing List Manager 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 02:18:47 -0800 (PST) From: sayali walimbe <sayaliw(a)yahoo.com> Hello Greetings! I belive there is no harm in acquiring new skills. We librarians are adaptable to every new thing. It is just a matter of common base language. We all are petriotic. We also have a "Lbrarian's language". Hence Hindi, English should not matter. When we have crossed the geograhical barriers then why language barriers?! Hindi is known to everybody. Just need to learn better English! Best Regards, Sayali Thite BAIF, Pune.

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RE: EU Software Patent Law may halt Linux Development
by Shalini R Urs 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Open source developers at risk - http://www.wirelessiq.info/content/topstories/479.html Shalini -------- Dr.Shalini R. Urs Director Information and Communication Division & Professor and Chairperson Department of Library and Information Science University of Mysore Mysore-570006 India Tele-91-821-2514699 Fax -91-821-2519209 homepage:www.vidyanidhi.org.in/shaliniurs.htm  Open source developers at risk – � http://www.wirelessiq.info/content/topstories/479.html http://www.wirelessiq.info/content/topstories/479.html � � � Shalini -------- Dr.Shalini R. Urs Director Information and Communication Division & Professor and Chairperson Department of Library and Information Science University of Mysore Mysore-570006 India Tele-91-821-2514699 Fax -91-821-2519209 homepage:www.vidyanidhi.org.in/shaliniurs.htm �

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FW: Google- the book scanning project- Microsoft of the future other issues- the scenario gets murkier
by Shalini R Urs 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

The Google Library book scanning project has raised may issues in the world of information. Please read on the msg below for some more light (or is more dust in the cloud!) It makes an interesting read anyways - Shalini -----Original Message----- From: owner-ipr(a)mailhost.soros.org [mailto:owner-ipr@mailhost.soros.org] On Behalf Of Darius Cuplinskas Sent: 01 March 2005 14:02 To: ipr & public domain list Subject: [ipr] How Google will scan the world, 1 book at a time This project, although valuable, will not provide full-text access, and will entail severe restrictions even on "fair use" permitted by copyright law: "You can't print the book out or digitally cut and paste any of it, even for this, an out-of-copyright volume. The restrictions will be more severe on in-copyright volumes, essentially those printed after 1920, limiting searchers to seeing a line or two around their search term." Brewster Kahle of the Internet Archive is bringing together a group of libraries to organize a rival project which would allow full-text access and put fewer restrictions on in-copyright materials. DC -------- Original Message -------- How Google will scan the world, 1 book at a time Steve Johnson Chicago Times February 25, 2005 As Google prepares to create the world's most comprehensive digital library, it's getting harder not to think of the company as the next Microsoft, morphing from a friendly Internet helper with a cutesy name into an awesome and inescapable force of digital nature. Already the dominant search engine, the California technology company is testing Gmail, a free e-mail service that's likely to be a blockbuster, Google Maps, a rival to Mapquest, and Google Desktop, a function that allows users to search within their computers much more quickly than Microsoft Windows does. And then there's the small matter of accumulating vast chunks of humankind's recorded knowledge. Even as you read this, Google scanners are busy making bits and bytes out of books from the Harvard, Stanford, Oxford and University of Michigan libraries, as well as from the New York Public Library, a project that ultimately could total more than 57 million volumes. The company's goal in all it does, it says, is "to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful" (along with, you know, selling ads alongside the world's information). But another goal seems to be ubiquity, and as Bill Gates has learned, when you become unavoidable, you also become resented. Altruistic project For now, though, Google remains mostly well-liked because the core of its business, the search engine, is so good. And the book-scanning project it's taking on seems more altruistic than not because Google is bearing the enormous (and, of course, unspecified) cost of copying the books into the digital world. "There are [other] people who had that vision," says Sidney Verba, director of the Harvard University Library. "What Google had was the vision and the ambition, the technical skill. ..." Shifting to a whisper, he adds the most important factor: "a lot of money -- in some sense I think more than they knew what to do with. .. For these kinds of people to invest millions and millions of dollars in it, it is a good exploitation of the profit sector for public purposes." The University of Michigan says its pre-Google digital collection of 21,000 volumes is among the country's "most ambitious." But making it -- actually placing the books, page by page, onto scanners and then making sure the result is clean and accurate -- is very slow, hard work. "At its current rate of digital production," the school explains in a press release, "it would take the university more than a thousand years to digitize the 7 million volumes in the collection. Google plans to do the job in a matter of years." Beyond vague talk about Google having developed a much more efficient process, the project's specifics are secret. At Harvard, for instance, Google won't allow reporters to visit or photograph the scanning currently being done -- of 40,000 volumes as a kind of pilot project, just to make sure the books don't get damaged or lost -- at the university library's 5-million-volume off-campus storage facility. But the aims seem transparent enough. It will bring to the masses these great research institutions, full of books one would normally need a plane ride and permission to access, and make them as easy to search for and within as a particular city's restaurant listings. "The company as a whole has been really excited about it," says Susan Wojcicki, Google's director of product management, in part because it relates to the company's roots. "The founders were working on a library digitization project when they wound up creating a search engine that today is called Google. "We're just really excited to be working with these institutions as well. A lot of them have been around for hundreds of years," adds Wojcicki. Google's age: 6 1/2. Libraries will get copies The books will be gathered by Google in the Google Print company subdivision, known previously for trying to get publishers to put their current books in print up for public perusal. The libraries will also get their own copies of their texts turned binary. "We're very anxious to make sure this is of real service to our own users and a public good, as well," Verba says. "We're very sensitive to not having somebody come back and say, `Look, you've just turned over to a monopoly something that should belong to the world.'" The project, almost everybody agreed at its December announcement, holds enormous promise. Scholars will be able to learn, at the press of a button, which books have discussed Francis Bacon, for instance, and in what manner. Journalists and bloggers can add books to their research repertoire; previously, they have used mostly other journalism, the already-digitized and quickly searchable record of newspapers, magazines and some television shows. "There'll be more of that contextual information which you'll be able to get more readily," says Harvard's Verba, "How that'll change the way people think, I don't know, but it's really exciting. "It will give us this huge digitized file of our books to do things with that we don't know yet what they are. Searching text is really a thing that's on the frontier. As it evolves, we will have a text to search. We are thinking of it as a very valuable resource for things that are not 100 percent clear." Ordinary users can see the project at work already. Type "books and culture" into the company's familiar search interface, and you get access not only to all the Web pages Google has indexed that contain those words, but also, right near the top of your search, to one of the early books to be scanned in, an 1896 tome of that title by Hamilton Wright Mabie. Right away you notice that there are no ads on the page, and there are no plans to add them "at this time," Wojcicki says. You may also notice there are links to help you "Buy this book" and to "Find this book in a library." No printing allowed You can't print the book out or digitally cut and paste any of it, even for this, an out-of-copyright volume. (The restrictions will be more severe on in-copyright volumes, essentially those printed after 1920, limiting searchers to seeing a line or two around their search term. But Stanford law professor Lawrence Lessig, writing in the Los Angeles Times, questioned the right of Google to make available even "snippets" of copyrighted material.) Verba says you can certainly make notes on it, and that a print-on-demand feature is worth considering. In the meantime, want to know whether Mabie's "Books and Culture" contains the word "ominous"? Type the word into the "Search within this book" field. There it is on page 193, in a sentence praising the ability of the cultured man to recognize the characteristics of his era. The thing that's really encouraging, Verba says, is that the project turns the current fears of scholars and parents on their ear. "There's no academic and in fact there's no parent with a teenager who isn't worried about the fact that that generation will believe that all knowledge is on the Internet and on Google and will never want to open a book again," he says. "The nice thing about this project is that it's a kind of, `If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.' People will go to Google, and they will find books, and they will have to then go to the library and get the books. We think this is really a nice way of squaring that circle." ----------

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