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Google Scholar will be MORE THAN Open J-Gate / OAIster etc
by JK Vijayakumar 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

Hi Colleagues, I agree with Mr. Dash. Scholars are looking for a "Search Place", where they can search for all information. Google Scholar is negotiating with Journal Publishers for getting into their server, and harvest their ToC, Abstract and reference parts of each article. When GS comes out with its full version, any one can search for Scholarly literature, from the vast array of Free and Paid journals, at the same time and at single place. The beauty of its Citation search adds GS's expected acceptance among Academia. Still it in its Beta. Remember that, we do not have a free service sofar, to do so. After retrieving the bibliographic Results, next step is to look for fulltext. If it is an Open Access journal, we can freely download them. What will happen to Paid articles. Here again, Google Scholar is started Document Delivery, and they already made arrangements with british library. See the press release at http://www.bl.uk/news/2006/pressrelease20060302.html. They will be collaborating with other Doc Delivery systems in near future. What will be its effect on Libraries? We will be getting a new free service, to which we used to pay huge amounts to Online Database providers. In near future these people will be forced to collaborate with GS, and Libraries will be benefited in great deal. We should understand that, the world wide resistance to Google from librarians are coming down, after their major projects like Google Scholar. As long as it is FREE, we will be benfitted. As librarians, our job is to support it, and lobby for its "FREE" status for ever. GS will be more than, what we have today. Vijayakumar J. K "Sh. Jitendra N. Dash" <jn_dash(a)yahoo.co.in> wrote: Dear Colleagues, I found the following write-up by Mr. Singh is intersting but he avoided the strong point of Google Scholar(GS), free citation retrieval search engine. Presently there is no search engine which provides citation(s) to scholarly papers freely. I found our scientists group is interested with GS,also I found citations are reliable.GS provides link to PubMed, free/open access journal, pay-based journals, books etc. Its features are discussed in peer reviewed journals like Nature.So,if GS will provide link only to free/open access journals papers then how users will come to know there citations in the journals which are subscribed in our libraries. Proper search technique retrieves relevant results. But one of the nagative points is GS was updated first time after six month of its initial launch (Nov, 2004) which is discussed. We may hope its present beta version may be evolved to a relevant search engine for scholars, specially in the areas where scholars are struggling for resources. Regards, JN Dash NII, New Delhi Sukhdev Singh wrote: This morning was frustating with Google Scholar. I just wanted to get hold of some scholary literature on "Methods for Benchmarking Organisations". So, opened up Google Scholar and fired the first term - "benchmarking". Good - 149,000 hits to good quality looking literature. So, started clicking by one by one to see the hits. But, what is this?!! Almost every click was asking me to pay somewhere 20 to 40 Dollars to have the access to full text. Obiously - this is the locked up knowledge for me. What is the use of these wonderful hits to high quality literature when I can not view them. Next I opened up Open J-Gate and fired the same term "benchmarking". Had to wait for the results. Ultimately got the result - 216 hits. This served my purpose. Not that these pointed to high quality papers. But I got what I wanted in return for what I could afford to pay for. No wasting of time in clicking and waiting to learn that I can't afford to buy the stuff. Later found that OAIster gave 1674 hits for the same term. But then, all Open/Free Access literature may not be OAI compliant. Why can't Google creates a service for just Open/Free Access Scholary Literature and name it as OpenScholar?. Its better technology can help small mortals like me. Sukhdev Singh, NIC. http://openmed.nic.in --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "medlib" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: medlib-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/medlib/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: medlib-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Hi Colleagues, I agree with Mr. Dash. Scholars are looking for a "Search Place", where they can search for all information. Google Scholar is negotiating with Journal Publishers for getting into their server, and harvest their ToC, Abstract and reference parts of each article. When GS comes out with its full version, any one can search for Scholarly literature, from the vast array of Free and Paid journals, at the same time and at single place. The beauty of its Citation search adds GS's expected acceptance among Academia. Still it in its Beta. Remember that, we do not have a free service sofar, to do so. After retrieving the bibliographic Results, next step is to look for fulltext. If it is an Open Access journal, we can freely download them. What will happen to Paid articles. Here again, Google Scholar is started Document Delivery, and they already made arrangements with british library. See the press release at http://www.bl.uk/news/2006/pressrelease20060302.html http://www.bl.uk/news/2006/pressrelease20060302.html . They will be collaborating with other Doc Delivery systems in near future. What will be its effect on Libraries? We will be getting a new free service, to which we used to pay huge amounts to Online Database providers. In near future these people will be forced to collaborate with GS, and Libraries will be benefited in great deal. We should understand that, the world wide resistance to Google from librarians are coming down, after their major projects like Google Scholar. As long as it is FREE, we will be benfitted. As librarians, our job is to support it, and lobby for its "FREE" status for ever. GS will be more than, what we have today. Vijayakumar J. K "Sh. Jitendra N. Dash" <jn_dash(a)yahoo.co.in> wrote: Dear Colleagues, I found the following write-up by Mr. Singh is intersting but he avoided the strong point of Google Scholar(GS), free citation retrieval search engine. Presently there is no search engine which provides citation(s) to scholarly papers freely. I found our scientists group is interested with GS,also I found citations are reliable.GS provides link to PubMed, free/open access journal, pay-based journals, books etc. Its features are discussed in peer reviewed journals like Nature.So,if GS will provide link only to free/open access journals papers then how users will come to know there citations in the journals which are subscribed in our libraries. Proper search technique retrieves relevant results. But one of the nagative points is GS was updated first time after six month of its initial launch (Nov, 2004) which is discussed. We may hope its present beta version may be evolved to a relevant search engine for scholars, specially in the areas where scholars are struggling for resources. Regards, JN Dash NII, New Delhi Sukhdev Singh wrote: This morning was frustating with Google Scholar. I just wanted to get hold of some scholary literature on "Methods for Benchmarking Organisations". So, opened up Google Scholar and fired the first term - "benchmarking". Good - 149,000 hits to good quality looking literature. So, started clicking by one by one to see the hits. But, what is this?!! Almost every click was asking me to pay somewhere 20 to 40 Dollars to have the access to full text. Obiously - this is the locked up knowledge for me. What is the use of these wonderful hits to high quality literature when I can not view them. Next I opened up Open J-Gate and fired the same term "benchmarking". Had to wait for the results. Ultimately got the result - 216 hits. This served my purpose. Not that these pointed to high quality papers. But I got what I wanted in return for what I could afford to pay for. No wasting of time in clicking and waiting to learn that I can't afford to buy the stuff. Later found that OAIster gave 1674 hits for the same term. But then, all Open/Free Access literature may not be OAI compliant. Why can't Google creates a service for just Open/Free Access Scholary Literature and name it as OpenScholar?. Its better technology can help small mortals like me. Sukhdev Singh, NIC. http://openmed.nic.in --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "medlib" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: medlib-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. 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Discrimination to LIS subject in SLET, karnataka
by yekanath kamble 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

Dear professionals, I bring to your kind notice that, recently Kuvempu University, Shimoga has called for state Eligibility Test (SET) for several subjects, but our LIS subject is not called for. As we know last time in the year 2000 it was there but now it is discriminated why? day by day librarian/ asst.librarian are not required for the college and universites?. Recent fast some states have called for the same exams and there was our LIS subject but why not in karanata SET?. Hence, I request you all that, please discuss the issue with professionals and find the soulution faster. With regards, Yekanath N K YEKANATH N KAMBLE ASST.LIBRARIAN R V COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING,MYSORE ROAD, BANGALORE-59 (INDIA) PH.91-80-28600351/28604705/28600184 FAX : 91 - 80 - 2860 0337 MOBILE.9448585358 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Dear professionals, I bring to your kind notice that, recently Kuvempu University, Shimoga has called for state Eligibility Test (SET) for several subjects, but our LIS subject is not called for. As we know last time in the year 2000 it was there but now it is discriminated why? day by day librarian/ asst.librarian are not required for the college and universites?. Recent fast some states have called for the same exams and there was our LIS subject but why not in karanata SET?. Hence, I request you all that, please discuss the issue with professionals and find the soulution faster. With regards, Yekanath N K YEKANATH N KAMBLE ASST.LIBRARIAN R V COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING,MYSORE ROAD, BANGALORE-59 (INDIA) PH.91-80-28600351/28604705/28600184 FAX : 91 - 80 - 2860 0337 MOBILE.9448585358 Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39174/*http://photomail.mai… New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

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Re: [LIS-Forum] Infringment of copyright - DO IT RIGHT IN FIRST PLACE
by Sukhdev Singh 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

Friends,I would like further deviate from the topic. Why not to DO IT RIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE? Why not to support and promote Open Access? Academic World would be much better. No fear of infringment of copyrights. Ranganathan's country-men must remember - "BOOKS ARE FOR USE". So workfor barrier - free access to scholarly information. --Sukhdev Singh, NIC.http://openmed.nic.in On 3/4/06, Murari <murari(a)nio.org> wrote:> Dear Moderator,> I would like to take some deviation from main issue and share my experience> on document requests. The most important thing that keeps Librarians> together is the resource sharing. Libraries help each other in supplying the> requested documents. I am a member on another discussion list of> International Association of Marine Science Library and Information Centres> (Iamslic). On this, at one time, large number of mails were for the document> requests. One day the association thought of making a union catalogue and> that is now being used extensively. The catalogue is based on Z39.50> protocol (http://library.csumb.edu/cyamus/ill/search.php)> Why not the like minded Librarians in India take up such kind of activity> and the NCSI take lead in providing facility and infrastructure? I receive> requested documents within 24 hours of my request from US or Europe on this.> With this facility, my users are extremely happy. They believe that I can> get the required document almost next day!>> With warm regards,>> Murari P Tapaswi, NICMAS, National Inst Oceanography, Dona Paula 403 004> Goa, India> Phone: 91-(0)832-2450 275; Fax: 91-(0)832-2450 602/03> URL: www.nio.org; www.mangroveindia.org; www.coastalhazards.info;> www.indian-ocean.org>> _______________________________________________> LIS-Forum mailing list> LIS-Forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum>

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UNIVERSITY OF OREGON OFFERS ONLINE ACCESS TO DISSOCIATION BY Dspace
by noufal palliparamban 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

Dear friends, The University of Oregon Libraries, in collaboration with the university's psychology department, has created an online archive of Dissociation, a seminal psychology journal. Dissociation was published in ten volumes between 1988 and 1997 by Dissociative Disorders Research Publications, Ltd., as the official journal of the International Society for the Study of Dissociation (ISSD). ISSD is a nonprofit, professional association organized to develop and promote comprehensive, clinically effective, and empirically-based resources and responses to dissociation and to address its relevance to other theoretical constructs. Jennifer Freyd, professor of psychology and editor of ISSD's new journal, The Journal of Trauma & Dissociation, together with Frank Putnam of Cincinnati's Children's Hospital Medical Center, proposed the digitization project to ISSD, the university libraries, and the journal's original copyright holder, Richard Kluft, M.D. Visit:https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/dspace/handle/1794/1129 Regards Noufal.P.P Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Dear friends, The University of Oregon Libraries, in collaboration with the university's psychology department, has created an online archive of Dissociation, a seminal psychology journal. Dissociation was published in ten volumes between 1988 and 1997 by Dissociative Disorders Research Publications, Ltd., as the official journal of the International Society for the Study of Dissociation (ISSD). ISSD is a nonprofit, professional association organized to develop and promote comprehensive, clinically effective, and empirically-based resources and responses to dissociation and to address its relevance to other theoretical constructs. Jennifer Freyd, professor of psychology and editor of ISSD's new journal, The Journal of Trauma & Dissociation , together with Frank Putnam of Cincinnati's Children's Hospital Medical Center, proposed the digitization project to ISSD, the university libraries, and the journal's original copyright holder, Richard Kluft, M.D. Visit: https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/dspace/handle/1794/1129 https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/dspace/handle/1794/1129 Regards Noufal.P.P Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur Jiyo cricket on http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/in/mailcricket/*http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cric… Yahoo! India cricket http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/in/mailmobilemessenger/*http://in.mobile.yahoo.… Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time.

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OA law project
by arun＠mssrf.res.in 05 Mar '06

05 Mar '06

QUT launches OA law project Queensland University of Technology (QUT), the first university anywhere to adopt an OA mandate, has launched an Open Access to Knowledge (OAK) Law project. >From the site: In todays ever-changing world, open access to knowledge is increasingly important, as both an economic and social force. This project aims to ensure that people can legally and efficiently share knowledge across domains and across the world. This will be of significance to the every day citizen through to top-end researchers. The project will develop legal protocols for managing copyright issues in an open access environment and investigate provision and implementation of a rights expression language for implementing such protocols at a technical level. At both levels, legal and technical, the project will integrate with existing open access repositories. The significance of the project is that it will provide a vital infrastructure to the open access landscape that does not adequately exist at the moment. Quoting Tom Cochran, QUT's Deputy Vice-Chancellor: It is often observed that the law and law making lags behind technology. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the maze of rights management and rights assertion surrounding access to content which is increasingly in digital form, often exclusively. Queensland University of Technology is pleased to be the supporting institution for this project, to systematically develop more assured processes, understandings and protocols to assist the smooth flow of knowledge and information for a variety of communities in future years. In doing so it particularly recognizes the public policy imperative of freeing up access to publicly funded research and its outputs. Also see the press release announcing the project (February 21, 2006): A new "open access to knowledge" project hosted by the Queensland University of Technology aims to ensure that anyone can legally share knowledge across the world, whether they be an every day citizen or a top end researcher. The QUT team, led by School of Law head, Professor Brian Fitzgerald is embarking on a $1.3 million, two year project to develop legal protocols for managing copyright issues in an open access environment. The Open Access to Knowledge (OAK) Law Project, when complete, would provide legal protocols that would free up the national and international research environment and remove barriers to reusing and remixing information, Professor Fitzgerald said...."If researchers know they can safeguard their work with OAK Law protocols they will be more comfortable with making it available online and thus increase the stock of knowledge available to everyone," Prof Fitzgerald said. "The OAK Law protocols will benefit everyone from school students to Nobel Prize winners who can go online, do a Google search, find relevant research and use it without fear of being sued for copyright infringements. The project will work with cutting edge research repositories in marine science and medical research to ensure that all Australians have the right to access and, where permitted, reuse high quality research data in their daily lives."

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OpenDocument format for Govt documents in India
by arun＠mssrf.res.in 05 Mar '06

05 Mar '06

Friends: We should campaign for adopting OpenDocument format for government documents. Arun ------ >From Peter Suber's blog New alliance promotes OpenDocument Format worldwide The mission of the new ODF Alliance is to promote the use of the OpenDocument Format (ODF) worldwide, especially for government documents. >From yesterday's press release: As documents and services are increasingly transformed from paper to electronic form, there is growing recognition that governments and their constituents may not be able to access, retrieve and use critical records, information and documents in the future. A broad cross-section of associations, academic institutions, industry and related groups today joined together to form the OpenDocument Format Alliance (ODF Alliance), an organization dedicated to promoting open solutions to this problem. As technologies rapidly evolve, documents are created by public sector agencies using different applications that may not be compatible with one another today, let alone into the future. Through the use of a truly open standard file format that can be implemented by numerous and varied applications, the Alliance seeks to enable governments and their constituents to use, access and store critical documents, records and information both today and in the future, independent of the applications or enterprise platforms used for their creation or future access. Specifically, the ODF Alliance supports the use of the OpenDocument Format (ODF), an open XML-based collection of office document formats, including text, presentation and spreadsheet formats. ODF, the only established open standard document format, enables the retrieval of information and exchange of documents between different applications, agencies and/or business partners in a platform and application independent way. "With a broad cross section of support, the ODF Alliance will work to enable governments around the world to have greater control over and direct management of their documents, now and forever," said Ken Wasch, President of the Software & Information Industry Association, a leading member of the Alliance and the principal trade association of the software and digital content industry. "There's no doubt that the momentum of ODF is gaining traction worldwide as more people every day are discovering that it's a better way to preserve and access documents."...The Alliance is building support globally for use and recognition of ODF, and all organizations that share its goals are welcomed to join the effort. Organizations can join [here]....In recent months, jurisdictions such as the State of Massachusetts in the United States and others around the world are leading the way, by embracing open document formats. According to recent press reports, 13 nations globally are considering adoption of the OpenDocument format.

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A public domain registry for India
by arun＠mssrf.res.in 05 Mar '06

05 Mar '06

Friends: Canada is setting up a public domain registry for publications available through open access. We in India shoud do so too. Best wishes. Arun ---- >From Peter Suber's blog Canadian public domain registry Canada will soon have an OA Public Domain Registry. >From yesterday's press release: Access Copyright, The Canadian Copyright Licensing Agency and Creative Commons Canada, in partnership with Creative Commons Corporation in the US, today announced the development of a Canadian public domain registry. The ground-breaking project the most comprehensive of its kind in Canada will create an online, globally searchable [and OA] catalogue of published works that are in the Canadian public domain. Canada has a rich cultural heritage of literature, music and fine art that is in the public domain just waiting to be freely enjoyed, said Marcus Bornfreund of Creative Commons Canada, a non-profit organization that works in collaboration with Creative Commons US. The problem until now was that there was no easy way to identify whether or not works are in the public domain. This registry will change that. There is currently no one place where information about the public domain is collected. The registry will make published works in the Canadian public domain easily identifiable and accessible in an online catalogue. The project will develop in two stages first, a comprehensive registry of works by Canadian creators that are in the public domain will be established. Eventually, the reach of the registry will expand to include the published works of creators from other countries. The public domain registry will be a non-profit project and freely accessible to the public online....The Wikimedia Foundation, developers of the popular online encyclopedia Wikipedia, will supply software that will allow the public to contribute information to the registry. "The public domain is our shared cultural heritage, and the best ground for the great new ideas of the future," said Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales. "Without access to the public domain, we are cut off from our past, and therefore cut ourselves off from our future."...Individuals will be able to use the registry to determine whether a published work is in the public domain. The registry will also link to digital versions of the work, and provide information about where a paper copy of the work can be purchased. Quick and easy access to legally available content is vital as we move further into the digital age, said Roanie Levy, Access Copyrights Director of Legal and External Affairs. The public domain registry has limitless possibilities and will place Canadian cultural content at the leading edge of the public domain. Comment. Because legislators (in Canada and elsewhere) have frequently extended the term of copyright, it's non-trivial to figure out when a work is in the public domain. If the new registry is comprehensive, it will be useful for lifting this burden from ordinary users who don't want to risk liability, err on the side of non-use, or spend time and money tracking down copyright holders when it's no longer necessary. By adding links to OA versions of PD works, it will be even more useful. It should bring about one other consequence of great importance: heightened public awareness of the value of the public domain and the urgency of protecting it from further encroachments.

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Reg.: Accomodation -- National Seminar on Electronic Publications
by Dimple Patel 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

Dear Participants and Paper Presenters, This is to inform you that we have reserved a few single rooms with double occupancy at JNTU Guest House, Kukatpally, Hyderabad. The price for these rooms at JNTU guest house is Rs. 250/- per room per day. In case the rooms reserved by us at JNTU guest house get filled we have alternatively blocked few rooms at NISIET, Guest House, Yousufguda, where the cost of single room with double occupancy is Rs. 600/- per room per day. Kindly let us know quickly if you would like us to book rooms for you (on payment basis) and for the no. of persons booking is required. We can book accommodation at the guest house only on first come first serve basis. Sincerely, Dr. Chennupati K. Ramaiah Seminar Organizing Secretary, National Seminar on Electronic Publications ************************************************************************ Dr. Chennupati K. Ramaiah Professor & Director, Centre for Information Science, Mahatma Gandhi National Institute of Research and Social Action [MGNIRSA], Street No.17,Gaganmahal Road, Domalguda, Hyderabad 500 029. Telephone: 040-27672492; Fax: 091-40-27664920 Email: < cis.dsrf(a)gmail.com> or <chennupati_kramaiah(a)yahoo.com> ************************************************************************ __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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RE: [LIS-Forum] Infringment of copyright
by Murari 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

Dear Moderator, I would like to take some deviation from main issue and share my experience on document requests. The most important thing that keeps Librarians together is the resource sharing. Libraries help each other in supplying the requested documents. I am a member on another discussion list of International Association of Marine Science Library and Information Centres (Iamslic). On this, at one time, large number of mails were for the document requests. One day the association thought of making a union catalogue and that is now being used extensively. The catalogue is based on Z39.50 protocol (http://library.csumb.edu/cyamus/ill/search.php) Why not the like minded Librarians in India take up such kind of activity and the NCSI take lead in providing facility and infrastructure? I receive requested documents within 24 hours of my request from US or Europe on this. With this facility, my users are extremely happy. They believe that I can get the required document almost next day! With warm regards, Murari P Tapaswi, NICMAS, National Inst Oceanography, Dona Paula 403 004 Goa, India Phone: 91-(0)832-2450 275; Fax: 91-(0)832-2450 602/03 URL: www.nio.org; www.mangroveindia.org; www.coastalhazards.info; www.indian-ocean.org

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Qualifications/Experience for University Librarians
by Aloor Thomas Francis 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

Dear Professionals, UGC has to ammend rules to strenghten the Library System of the Universities in India. Now, the UGC and the Govt. is totally neglecting this sector. The first example for this is that in majority of the Universities in India, the post of University Librarian is laying vacant. Out of seven universities in Kerala, only two have University Librarians. All others are running on "In-Charge" for several years. There are several reasons for this. Some of them are listed below: 1. No sufficient number of qualified candidates are available ( As per UGC norms). College Librarians / Asst. University Librarans with 18 years experience in the UGC cadre or Dy. Librarians are exinct species in Kerala. At present no candidates are available in Kerala. 2. The reason for this is that College Librarians appointed after 1990 are not getting UGC Pay Scales. 3. Since the College Librarians/Asst. Uty. Librarians are filled by promotion (3/4 posts), no candidate will get 18 years service in the UGC cadre. 4. If a person appointed at the age of 28 as College Librarian/Asst. Uty. Libraian in UGC scale only will qualify 4. This reduces the interest and pressure of librarians to aspire for this post and hence they try to hold the post as In-Charge. 5. University authorities also not taking active interest in this regard. Suggestions:- 1. Revise the Qualifications and Experience as follows: - MLISC + PhD in Library and Information Science - Total 18 years of professional experience in libraries, of which atleast 8 years should be in the UGC Cadre of Dy./Asst.Librarian or College Librarian. 2. In future, library professionals should be recruited to universities and colleges only in the UGC Cadre as in the case of teachers. 3. The ideal situation is the redesignation of the post of librarians as Lecturers/ Readers/ Professors. The designation of librarians in DRDO, CSIR, ISRO, etc. is "Scientists". With regards A.T. Francis Assistant Librarian Kerala Agricultural University From: Veerankutty Chelatayakkot <veerankutty(a)cusat.ac.in> To: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Dear Professionals, I invite your attention to the discrimination to Assistant University librarians in the qualification prescribed by the UGC to the post of University Librarian. Minimum qualification to University Librarian : (i) Master's degree in Library Science / Information Science / Documentation with at least 55% of the marks or its equivalent grade of B in the UGC Seven point scale and consistently good academic record; (ii) At least thirteen years as a Deputy Librarian in a University Library or eighteen years as experience as a college librarian (iii) Evidence of innovative library service and organization of published work. As per this qualification, 18 years experienced College librarian can become a University Librarian. At the same time, an Assistant University Librarian with same experience cant apply to the post of University Librarian. Assistant University Librarian is equivalent to the College librarian. This can be easily understood by comparing the qualification prescribed to Deputy Librarian. Qualification to Deputy Librarian: (i) Master's degree in Library Science / Information Science / Documentation with at least 55% of the marks or its equivalent grade of B in the UGC Seven point scale and Consistently good academic record; (ii) At least five years as a Assistant University Librarian / College Librarian (iii) Evidence of innovative library service and organization of published work If five years experienced Assistant University Librarians/ College librarians can apply to the post of Deputy librarian, why 18 years experienced Assistant University Librarian cant apply to the post of University Librarian. This is the discrimination. Veerankutty Chelatayakkot __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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