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Re: Re: Re: [LIS-Forum] Areas in LIS Res
by gireesh kumar poonattile 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 Sukhdev Singh wrote : >It is unfortunate that while computer professionals >are working in areas were library people should have >been working. Weird! What is unfortunate here? Computer professional 'encroaching LIS area. You are square pegged in the four falls of your profession. You want to debar people from working in these areas. How naïve! >work in. Take for example, while we were beating about >the bushes of "Bibliometrics" some students created >GOOGLE using the same principle of "citations" (links >here). Who said that they have copied this idea from Bibliometrics. Didn't they copy the powerful Google algorithm also from Library Professionals? Do not blather like people who used come up with Vedas and Upanishads when someone makes a new invention in the west. (It has been said some 4000 years back in the <book name> here, blah, blah.) >While we were debating on utility of >classification, some other students created "YAHOO". >And still others are building up Open Directory >Project (http://www.dmoz.org/) You need only commonsense and sound knowledge of technology to bring up a site like Yahoo. Classification is not the hegemony of LIS professionals. Do you think that LIS professional are qualified enough to do the job of a programmer? Is that what people are taught in our schools. Then, why this insecurity? >Classifiaction does >not mean numbers we put on the spine of the books; >dear friends, it is putting things in helpful >sequence. Thanks for that information. Latest addition to the vast LIS knowledge repository! >Information technology is in use in every aspect of >life. Even some medical professionals left their >profession to join IT Rat Race. They joined the rat race not because IT is used in every aspect of the life. Big money is the secret. >example http://www.indmedica.com. But should this mean >every professional follow the same path. Every professional? Then who will feed us? You use toilet soap, right? Since its an integral part of your life, does it mean that every other household needs to start making soap? IT is a tool. It had application in almost all the spheres of life. Knowing how to use a tool doesnt require you take a Phd in that subject. >Today we have to answer, the real tough question? Do >we really have something to offer? Something Unique. If you dont have something to offer, then why thousands of libraries in our country. Please dont bring IT as an overhead. Your profession caters to many other things. Technology may change. But there are quite a number of things which doesnt change. Reading habit, Peoples affinity toward books, etc Remember, Ranganathans five laws are centered around books. >What is our USP...? If Yes, then why we are in >hibernation. Who said that library professional are in hibernation. Cant you see them doing their work? Look at closely, is that IT driving them, really.? >If No, then why we are pretending...? Why >not to leave the stage to Computer Professionals who >otherwise are today "Plenty in Supply, Less in >Demand". What stage you are going to leave? There is no stage which you have occupied where others are going to take over. Its a hallucination. Gireesh Kumar Poonattile Radha Nivas Chulliparmaba Farook College Post Calicut > > Dear Sukhdev ji > > > > I agree with your suggestion that research on > > Classification is required but to be honest, it is > > the need of the hour that a librarian has to be > > perfect in the modern information technology other > > wise the whole scene of librarianship will be > > spoiled. The advent of the new information ___________________________________________________ Meet your old school or college friends from 1 Million + database... Click here to reunite www.batchmates.com/rediff.asp

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Google's new features
by Madhuresh 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

Dear All, Google has introduced 2 new features -searching by synonyms and News Alerting. Searching by synonyms can be used by professional researchers who know advanced search techniques. The mechanism for doing this is to preface your word with a tilde (~). The example Google gives is a search for browser help as well as browser guides and tutorials. The search strategy is: browser ~help. To know more in detail, just follow the link http://www.infotoday.com/newsbreaks/nb030811-2.shtml The content of the article is also pasted below. Google Introduces Synonym Searching, News Alerting Features by Marydee Ojala August 11, 2003 - Professional researchers-the ones who actually understand and use the advanced search techniques provided by Web search engines-will be delighted to learn Google has introduced a new feature that enables searching by synonyms as well as by keyword. The mechanism for doing this couldn't be easier. All you need to do is preface your word with a tilde (~). The example Google gives is a search for browser help as well as browser guides and tutorials. The search strategy is: browser ~help. Why the tilde? It's shorthand for approximate, which is appropriate since that's what you get-an approximation of similar search terms. In addition to free-text synonym searching, the new advanced search feature works in fielded searches. Search for browser intitle:~help, browser inurl:~help, allintitle:browser ~help, or allinurl browser ~help, and you will retrieve synonyms for help occurring in the title and URL fields, respectively. For example, enter intitle:~cancer and Web sites with pain, one of the synonyms for cancer along with disease and oncology, in the title will show up on the results list. In typical Google fashion, the synonym search feature is computer created. Although human beings created the algorithm, a Google employee did not sit down with a thesaurus and enter all the words and synonyms into a database that Google searches when it sees that tilde. According to Marissa Mayer, director, Consumer Web Products, the intent is to broaden a search. "We think this is a powerful and useful way to broaden results. It's the opposite of disambiguation, which narrows a search. Google's synonym search will provide searchers with additional possibilities for search terms and help them if they don't know the jargon associated with a topic." Google won't reveal how the algorithm works. However, extensive searching gives some clues. There's certainly evidence of PageRank, not exactly surprising, in the skewing of results toward popularity. Enter ~apple and the synonyms are almost entirely computer related. There's no synonym for the fruit mention of the word, nor for singer Fiona Apple. A search for ~shell, first retrieves the home page for Shell Oil Company, but the next nine highlight Unix as the synonym. The second page of results mixes the oil company and computer Web sites. No synonyms for seashells down by the seashore show up, probably because there aren't a lot of Web sites that link to those types of sites. Google optimizes search results that are frequently linked to, which weights results toward technology, business, and entertainment. Mayer pointed out that synonym searching works only on the Web search tab, not in Images or News, and only in English. Synonym searching has no effect on AdWords and sponsored links. If you search for ~magazine, it will trigger ad displays for companies that have purchased magazine as an AdWord, but none for its synonym journal. What has happened, to the amazement of Google staff, is the mining of synonyms by Webmasters who want to use them as new registered keywords for their products. Separately, Google announced its news alerting service (http://www.google.com/newsalerts) As with the synonym feature, this should be welcomed by serious researchers. Other news tracking services, such as that from The New York Times, have begun charging for the service; a free Google news alerting service is a boon. Options for update frequency are either once a day or as news happens. If a story is being widely reported, choosing the second option is very likely to result in a flooded inbox. There is a limit of 50 alerts per e-mail address. The normal search conventions, as operative in Google News, can be used. In addition to Boolean searches, a News Alert can be limited by source, location (country or U.S. state), occurrences (anywhere, in the headline, in the body of the story, or in the URL), and date. The one drawback to News Alert is the inability to edit a search. Instead, it must be deleted and a new one entered. Both synonym searching and News Alerts were developed by Google in its Google Labs (http://labs.google.com/) Both are in beta. According to Mayer, it's Google's normal practice to introduce new features and services and then watch how people use them. From this, Google decides on further developments and minor tweaking. For example, if synonym searching catches on, it may join the Advanced Search page as a search option. At the moment, it's not there. Other languages might also be added, much as French and German news was added to the formerly all-English sources of Google News. For now, it's a good bet that Google Labs is working on other features designed to delight a searcher's heart. Marydee Ojala is editor of ONLINE and program chair for the National Online conference. Her e-mail address is marydee(a)infotoday.com. Regards. Madhuresh Singhal Aurigene Discovery Technologies Limited, Electronic City, phase II, Hosur Road, Bangalore 562 158 Phone 8521314-16 Ext.- 422 Mobile 98861 82822 Fax 852 6285 E-mail: madhureshsinghal(a)yahoo.com http://www.aurigene.com/ Best Regards, Madhuresh Singhal This email and its attachments are confidential and proprietary to AURIGENE Discovery Technologies and are meant for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient, do not take any actions based on the contents of this message, except to permanently delete the message and its attachments and inform the sender immediately.

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Re: [LIS-Forum] FW: [DIGITALDIVIDE] Supreme Court Cases Get a Fresh Hearing
by Mailing List Manager 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:07:58 +0100 (BST) From: "[iso-8859-1] madhu ks" <madhuks4u(a)yahoo.co.in> Dear Mr. Arun, I am happy to see your mail in connection with the idea of making available the Supreme Court Proceedings ( Cases as well as arguments )in audio format in a CD/DVD/MP3 for the benefit of general public/Professionals use. As mentioned in the case of USA, the Proceedings are already available in the tape recorded format hence, they can either copy/record in a MP3 format whereas, I doubt, the Procedings of any court/s are available in audio/visible format in India. Ofcourse, The Supreme Court Case Laws CDs are available in text format for example, SCC Online, AIR Supre Court on CD, Grand Jurix etc. But, if this type of project/s can be undertaken in India atleast in future , which again requires Government as well as Judiciary's will and prior approval. If this is done then, one can go for such project/s which will be beneficial for both common man as well as to professionals. This project needs to be initiated institionally,Government , Judiciary or by the Business Firms. Hope someone will initiate this project in India soon and make it available in audio format probably, by reading this mail. Thanking you, Sincerely yours, C U Navalgund N L S I U Bangalore (cnavalgund(a)hotmail.com)

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printable catalogue cards
by Mailing List Manager 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

Date: 13 Aug 2003 12:25:38 -0000 From: Subbiah Gunasekaran <gunasekaran_subbiah(a)rediffmail.com> Dear Members: I just want to know the availability of printable [continuosly] catalogue cards in Tamil Nadu. Please give me the contact details of the firm. Thanks Guna

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article needed
by Aman Kumar Jha 14 Aug '03

14 Aug '03

Hi friends, Now I work with Confederation of Indian Industries (CII) as a Librarian. I am in need of an article. Can anyone let me know the local availability of the following article? Title: A LOOK AT THREE REGULATORY FORCES INFLUENCING CONTENT AND DISTRIBUTION IN THE MOTION PICTURE AND TELEVISION INDUSTRIES Author: Robert A. Burgelman; Philip Meza (Stanford University) Industry: Motion picture, television, consumer electronics Location: United States Publication date: 11 July 2002 Pages: 11 pp Abstract: Much of the landscape in which today's media companies find themselves as they contend with the impact of digitization of content and the convergence of means of distribution was shaped by regulatory forces. Three government rulings in particular were influential: the Consent Decree of 1948 (often referred to as the 'Paramount Case'), the Financial Interest and Syndication ruling (also called the 'FinSyn' ruling of 1970 of the United States Federal Communications Commission), and the United States Supreme Court ruling in Universal City Studios et al (including Disney) vs Sony Corp. (also known as the Betamax case of 1984). These regulatory forces broke up tight vertical integration between content production and distribution (Paramount case and FinSyn ruling) or helped to pave the road for the introduction of new technologies for distribution (Betamax case). The teaching purpose is to discuss the market power available by owning both sources of content and distribution in media and the controversies surrounding such verticalization. Availability: Harvard Business School Source: Stanford School of Business, Stanford University Note: I have checked Harvard Business Review, July 2002 Thanks & regards, Aman Kumar Jha Librarian Confederation of Indian Industries (CII) _________________________________________________________________ Race along with NK. The fastest Indian. http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/tataracing/index.asp Feel the thrill!

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Digital Divide in India ?
by Abdul J Tharayil 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

Hi ALL I got to read an article, rather an interview with Keninston (MIT), says that cheap information kiosks are helping India bring computing power to the masses, providing a model for how to bridge the digital divide. The full version is available at http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/wo_keniston081303.asp?p=0) However I failed to learn any good Library based intitiative helping us bridge the digital divide in the country except the one I happend to read about the Kallara Project in Kerala (the Department of IT in association with the State Library Council -launched the first computerized rural information centre at Kallara Gram Panchayat Library) which ofcourse is a proud initiative for all of us. Is it because I am kept ignorant about it myslef? OR are we very much confined to the library stacks and forgotten the role of library in social development. Or is it because our public library system in the country is in Chaos? Are there professionals seriously thinking about it ? Regards, Abdul J Tharayil,

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RE: [LIS-Forum] FW: RE Dr T.V. Sathyamurthy 12 8 2003
by Mailing List Manager 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:11:09 +0530 From: "Chidambaram, Siva" <Schidambaram(a)ncaer.org> Tennalur Vengara Sathyamurthy, political scientist; born Madras, India, 29 October 1929; Lecturer in Government, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana, 1962-63; Lecturer in Political Science, University of Singapore, 1963-65; Senior Lecturer in Political Science, Makerere University, Kampala, 1965-67; Lecturer in International Relations, Department of Politics, Strathclyde University, 1967-68; Lecturer, Department of Politics, York University 1968-71; Senior Lecturer, 1971-96; Professor, 1996-1997 (Emeritus 1997); married 1963 Carole Methven (one daughter); died, York, 25 August 1998.

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FW: [DIGITALDIVIDE] Supreme Court Cases Get a Fresh Hearing
by Mailing List Manager 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:40:11 +0530 From: Subbiah Arunachalam <arun(a)mssrf.res.in> Dear Fred and members of bytesforall and Lis-Forum lists: Here is an excellent initiative from the USA. Do you think that we in India should mount such an effort and make audio recordings of all Supreme Court proceedings available to the public free of cost? Best wishes. Arun ----------- Subject: US Supreme Court Cases Get a Fresh Hearing (fwd) SUPREME COURT CASES GET A FRESH HEARING Since 1994, Northwestern University's OYEZ project has made audio of US Supreme Court cases available in a "streaming" format that requires a continuous Internet connection. Now the project is converting the files to MP3 format, which permits downloading, file sharing and use on portable devices. The MP3 files are free and sharable, if users agree to credit OYEZ and limit usage to noncommercial purposes. Jerry Goldman, the project's director, hopes to make available with search functionality all of the approximately 6,000 hours of the Supreme Court recordings since 1955, when taping of oral arguments began. "The whole idea is to build a digital commons, make accessible materials that are really valuable in a free and open society," he said. Particularly with controversial cases such as affirmative action and abortion, "there's so much more information and emotion in the human voice that a transcript can't do it justice," explained Goldman. SOURCE: Washington Post; AUTHOR: Phuong Le http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41812-2003Aug10.html ***********************************

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Re: Re: Re: [LIS-Forum] Areas in LIS Res
by afsar bukhari 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

Dear Friends, I fully agree that core areas of Research in LIS have been neglected as has been rightly pointed out by Mr. Sukhdev ( specially classification) I also feel that classification forms the basis of life. Everyone practices it every day (although in different ways). One of the areas of LIS research as suggested by Maurice B. Line is Summarisation and Representation of Info this in itself suggest the importance of classification because we cannot represent the info in more accessible form until it is arranged in some helpful sequence. The so called search engines (Google etc developed by the computer professionals), which are being heavily used by all to find information, are not able to give us satisfactory result. It has often been pointed out that No search engine is able to index the entire web. Strength of web is 500 times more that what the search engines are today able to index This I feel is perhaps because the so called computer professionals were much enthusiastic about finding ways of retrieving information without bothering about mapping the resources first. Perhaps librarian mind was not involved. If we think with an inquisitive mind we may find a suitable solution in the underlying principles of classification. Wood Ward J. On cataloguing and Classifying Info Resources on the Net in Ann Rev Inf Sc. Tech. 1996: 31: 189-219 very rightly points out Internet is currently in a state of near chaos in terms of access and organization, and because searching is usually performed only with word based search engines, it is generally not adequate for the needs of most users. We have lot to offer. Computer Professionals can only write a program and the input for a program can be the experience of librarian. The need of the hour is Comp Professionals and Librarian should come together on a single platform. The both should complement each other. If they are left to do at their own the problems will be far more for us because we should not forget the fact that WE ARE A BRIDGE BETWEEN INFORMATION & USERS warm regards bukhari On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 Sukhdev Singh wrote : >It is unfortunate that while computer professionals >are working in areas were library people should have >been working. We are still looking for the areas to >work in. Take for example, while we were beating about >the bushes of "Bibliometrics" some students created >GOOGLE using the same principle of "citations" (links >here). While we were debating on utility of >classification, some other students created "YAHOO". >And still others are building up Open Directory >Project (http://www.dmoz.org/) Classifiaction does >not mean numbers we put on the spine of the books; >dear friends, it is putting things in helpful >sequence. > >Information technology is in use in every aspect of >life. Even some medical professionals left their >profession to join IT Rat Race. I know some for >example http://www.indmedica.com. But should this mean >every professional follow the same path. > >Today we have to answer, the real tough question? Do >we really have something to offer? Something Unique. >What is our USP...? If Yes, then why we are in >hibernation. If No, then why we are pretending...? Why >not to leave the stage to Computer Professionals who >otherwise are today "Plenty in Supply, Less in >Demand". > >Regards >Sukhdev > >--- Vijay Raghav Tiwari <vijayrt(a)rediffmail.com> >wrote: > > Dear Sukhdev ji > > > > I agree with your suggestion that research on > > Classification is required but to be honest, it is > > the need of the hour that a librarian has to be > > perfect in the modern information technology other > > wise the whole scene of librarianship will be > > spoiled. The advent of the new information > > technology the software, online information > > retrieval sources are becoming an essentials of the > > library services. A true professional will have to > > attain the full command of the situation otherwise > > he/she will be left far behind from the present day > > profession. > > > > Hope that you will be agreeing to the concern. It is > > good for us if we start learning more and more in > > this techno field. > > yours truly > > VR Tiwari > > > > On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 Sukhdev Singh wrote : > > >Dear Afsar, > > > > > >Thank you very much for circulation such use > > >information. If possible, please let me know the > > >reference cited (Maurice B. Line). > > > > > >Further I would like to suggest that there should > > be > > >also research in core areas of Library and > > Information > > >Science like Classification. Unfortunately these is > > a > > >trend amoung the LIS schools to make students more > > >Computer Literate at the cost of core subjects of > > LIS. > > > > > > > > >(I wish such LIS schools should stop issueing > > >certificates in LIS and start issueing MCA etc.) > > > > > >Regards > > >Sukhdev > > > > > > > > >--- afsar bukhari <bukhari_786(a)rediffmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > > > This is in response to a recent mail in lisforum > > > > regarding the areas of research in LIS > > > > > > > > LIS, since its inception has been dealing with > > > > organizing information so as to make it > > available to > > > > the users in more efficient manner. > > > > > > > > Information seems like dirt; its everywhere > > you > > > > look, accumulates in piles, and is challenging > > to > > > > organize for easy retrieval. > > > > > > > > It is this very nature of info that has always > > > > threatened LIS professionals and forced them to > > come > > > > up with innovative approaches towards its > > effective > > > > organization. With the advent of WWW, organizing > > > > info is giving tough time for all LIS > > professionals. > > > > Newer and newer approaches are being tried, but > > > > still more and more are required to be done! > > > > > > > > Maurice B. Line has identified 10 key areas > > related > > > > to Info Res in the MILLENIUM > > > > > > > > 1. Internet & WWW (info retrieval aspects) > > > > 2. Search engines & alogorithms > > > > 3. Bibliographic control on the internet > > > > 4. User interface including common user > > > > interface,natural language interface > > etc. > > > > 5. User needs or requirement analysis > > > > 6. Info seeking behaviour of users and cognitive > > > > approach > > > > 7. Digital Libraries > > > > 8. Summarization & representation of information > > > > 9. Visual information > > > > 10. 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FW: RE Dr T.V. Sathyamurthy 12 8 2003 (fwd)
by Mailing List Manager 12 Aug '03

12 Aug '03

Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:00:51 +0530 From: Subbiah Arunachalam <arun(a)mssrf.res.in> Can any member of LIS-Forum help my friend from Africa? Please reply him directly. thanks and best wishes. Arun -----Original Message----- From: Leuben.Njinya-Mujinya(a)teol.uu.se [mailto:Leuben.Njinya-Mujinya@teol.uu.se] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:37 PM To: arun(a)mssrf.res.in Subject: RE Dr T.V. Sathyamurthy 12 8 2003 Professor Subbiah Arunachalam <arun(a)mssrf.res.in> Dear Subbiah, Greetings. I am finishing a study here on Buganda, and all along I have been required to provide the first name (in FULL) of each book OR article that I have drawn upon. One of the writers whom I used is T.V. Sathyamurthy: See down for one of his studies. Sathyamurthy has apparently written much about Uganda and India. HOWEVER, I have been unable to find the FULL NAME of his first initial "T". NOT in his publications that I have seen, NOT on the major libary web sites and NOT in the books where his work is cited. He invariably appears as T.V. Sathyamurthy. Since you are quite acquainted with Indias's scholars because of your many roles, could you please, if you can, let me what Sathyamurthy's FIRST NAME IS in FULL. Sathyamurthy, T.V. 1986. The Political Development of Uganda: 1900-1986. Aldershot (Hunts) and Brookfield (Vermont): Gower Publishing Co. I hope you can help, and thanks beforehand for the help. Leuben

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