- LIS-Forum - ncsi.iisc.ernet.in

Good news for Libyans
by Jayadev P Hiremath 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

*Libya's first electronic library opens | Libya Herald* *Tripoli, 3 April 2013*: Libya’s first electronic library has been officially opened by the Deputy Prime Minister, Awad Al-Barasi. The opening ceremony took place in the National Library. The Minister of Culture and Civil Community, Habib Al-Amin, and the National Library’s chairman, Tawwfrik Al Tawed, and executive manager, Saleh Elshelmani, were also present at the opening ceremony. -- Warm regards. Jayadev P Hiremath Independent Libraries Professional (Former Librarian - IBS,Kuwait) E-mail : jayadevh(a)hotmail.com LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jayadev-p-hiremath/44/12a/2a0 Facebook : http://www.facebook.com/people/Jayadev-P-Hiremath/603802230 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

1 0

America's First Virtual Library Opens at Suburban Station
by Jayadev P Hiremath 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

Jonathan Takiff, *Daily News Columnist* Commuters waiting for a train in Suburban Station now have a stimulating new way to pass the time – downloading e-books, audio books and podcasts which they can then enjoy while riding the train, relaxing at home, wherever.. Sponsored by the Free Library of Philadelphia, SEPTA and Dunkin Donuts, the month long “Enrich Your Ride with Reading” project is billed as "the first Virtual Library in the U.S". (there’s also one in Budapest) and coincides with National Library Month. To lure you in, all advertising signage on the Suburban Station train platforms is now touting these free offerings - actually a small sample of the 80,000 e-books, 8,000 audio books and thousand plus podcasts available to card holders at freelibrary.org. The graphics for each sign-touted classic, best seller and podcast includes a QR (quick response) code symbol, Just open a QR application (free to download) on your smart phone or tablet then point your device’s camera to frame and capture the QR image. Within a minute or less, the book or podcast automatically loads onto your device. And even if using an Android or Apple iOS device (like an iPod Touch) that’s lacking mobile phone service, you can use the free Wi-Fi available on the train station platforms to enable the download. . User note: if you don’t see a book or podcast you want on the first billboard, look for a second sign further down the platform packing a different set of offerings. Also be forewarned - as the Free Library leases only a limited number of licenses for current e-book titles, you may not be able to download the one you want, instantly. If not, you’ll be put on a wait list then duly informed with a email message when a download is available, explained library communications and brand marketing director Alix Gerz. These electronic “loaners” usually expire after three weeks, but are renewable.. Current best sellers range from “Defending Jacob” by William Landay, “The Dinner” by Herman Koch and “Tenth of December” by George Saunders to children’s books like “Fast Train, Slow Train” and “Bears in the Night.“ The public domain classics – available in unlimited quantities – include Camden transplant Walt Whitman’s classic collection of poems “Leaves of Grass,” Victor Hugo’s “Les Miserables,” “Grimm’s Fairy Tales” and “The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes.” Authors ruminating outloud on podcasts (all recorded at the Free Library’s popular guest speaker series) range from Dave Barry to Jennifer Weiner, Madeleine Albright to Colin Powell. -- Warm regards. Jayadev P Hiremath Independent Libraries Professional (Former Librarian - IBS,Kuwait) E-mail : jayadevh(a)hotmail.com LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jayadev-p-hiremath/44/12a/2a0 Facebook : http://www.facebook.com/people/Jayadev-P-Hiremath/603802230 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

1 0

Library wedding proposal: one for the books
by Jayadev P Hiremath 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

*By:* Curtis Rush <http://www.thestar.com/authors.rush_curtis.html> A 31-year-old Chicago advertising executive has written a marriage proposal that is one for the books, portraying himself as a tortoise and his girlfriend as the hare (or, in this case, bunny). Jason Methner is the creative mind behind the illustrated account of his relationship with his girlfriend, Molly Lipsitz. He had the book, titled *A Hare-y Tale*, illustrated by friend Yoni Limor<http://yonimation.com/>and placed the bound volume among the “new arrivals” in a Chicago library for his 27-year-old girlfriend to find. The book refers to some of the activities they have done as a couple in their 4½-year relationship. In it, Methner is portrayed as the tortoise and Lipsitz as “Bunny” — because she has slept with a stuffed rabbit named Bunny since childhood. In one sketch, Bunny is shown marching off to university with a bag of her belongings tied to a stick. The book even includes a sketch of their one-year-old dog Hammer. Like the classic tortoise and hare story, Methner and Lipsitz each take life at a different pace. Methner is laid back, while Lipsitz is an A-type personality, very organized and constantly producing lists. She enjoys healthy food. He loves cheeseburgers. However, they have plenty in common, including a love of adventure, food and jogging. They also enjoy good books and libraries. So it was only natural that the marriage proposal should take place in a library. For this special moment, Methner chose the Harold Washington Library Centre, the main branch of the Chicago public library system. On March 23, he used “a lie” to trick Lipsitz into finding the 20-page book on a shelf in the branch’s Thomas Hughes Children’s Library. As Lipsitz began flipping through it, she came to an abrupt stop on page 3: the narrative mentioned Sandy Springs, her home town near Atlanta. Lipsitz grew suspicious. Methner encouraged her to read on. On the next to last page, the story read: “Although we don’t often run at same pace, do you want to slow down and spend the rest of your life with me?” And on the last page: “And Bunny said …” This was followed by an empty space for her to say “yes.” At that point, Methner got down on one knee, popped the question and pulled out a diamond engagement ring. As in all good fairytales, this book had a happy ending. She exclaimed, “Yes,” and a professional photographer concealed behind the book shelves emerged to snap the delightful moment. “I didn’t cry. That’s not really my style,” Lipsitz told the Star from Chicago. “I was just totally surprised and shocked in a good way. It was an amazingly thoughtful and creative proposal and in an unexpected place.” The Chicago Public Library posted the photos on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151737353467454&set=a.91497817453…>, which helped turn their proposal into a viral event. Portrait and wedding photographer Aparna Paul Jain<http://www.aparnapauljain.com/>also posted photos on her website. “I have known Molly for a few years now, and when Jason thought about this idea he asked me if I could photograph it. There was no way I was going to miss it,” she told the Star in an email. “I think it played out really well.” Library staff helped her rearrange books so that she could have a clear view of Methner’s picture book. “This is the first time I photographed a surprise proposal,” she said. Lipsitz appreciated that Methner had arranged for her to go with a friend to have a manicure that morning, not knowing it was so she would look good in photos showing the ring on her finger. No wedding date has been announced. Methner made five more copies of the book so relatives would have the book as a memento. “Most women have been very flattering to me with compliments about my creativity,” he said. “But a lot of men, especially in my friends’ group, have given me the eye roll … like, thanks for setting the bar so high.” -- Warm regards. Jayadev P Hiremath Independent Libraries Professional (Former Librarian - IBS,Kuwait) E-mail : jayadevh(a)hotmail.com LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jayadev-p-hiremath/44/12a/2a0 Facebook : http://www.facebook.com/people/Jayadev-P-Hiremath/603802230 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

1 0

Re: [LIS-Forum] kindly mail 2 forum members
by Mailing List Admin 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:10:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Subbiah Arunachalam <subbiah_a(a)yahoo.com> At last people are beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel! Many institutions have squandered public funds - all coming from taxpayers - on commercially marketed software when excellent software is available for free. Prof. ARD Prasad, Director of DRTC at ISI, B'lore, has been advocating the adoption of open source software for years but barring a few others have ignored his recommendation. Yes, go for KOHA. There is a worldwide community of KOHA users and you can always learn from each other.� SA ________________________________ From: ARAGONDA L MOORTHY <almoorthy52(a)gmail.com> To: Swati Bhattacharyya <swati(a)iimcal.ac.in> Cc: Dr. Rama K C Patro <rkcpatro(a)iimtobu.ac.in>; lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2013, 14:06 Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] kindly mail 2 forum members Dear ALL, This is reg LibSys. We too faced problems in using the software in 2005-06 at DRDL, Hyderabad. We switched over from Libris to LibSys. For data export, they took enormous time. The Engineer who visited DRDL, Hyderabad took data on CD to facilitate export of OPAC data. But after 6 months expressed inability to export saying some lame excuse. Again they took the data and took more time. Meanwhile I joined DESIDOC in 2006, and was able to call their senior executives to solve the problem. All this took more than 1 year. Again they charge exorbitantly for maintenance. I understand it has the largest customer base in India and so they are dictating term (Monopoly). LIS professionals have to unitedly take on such issues raising in National Forums like Conferences, etc. Whenever we suggest a new facility--utility--improvement, they take and improve the software. But our intellectual capital (suggestions/improvements) do not get any rewards. The are used to bring new release with increased price tag. Why can't we use KOHa or NEWGENLI--the open source software???? AL MOORTHY

1 0

Japanese dissertations go open access
by Mailing List Admin 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:01:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Subbiah Arunachalam <subbiah_a(a)yahoo.com> Japanese dissertations go open access By�Yao Chen�on�March 4, 2013 12:46 PM�|�No TrackBacks Effective on April 2013, all doctoral dissertations approved by Japanese universities are to be publicly available via Internet. Updates will be provided later when details are released. Dissertation modification summary�(in Japanese) Flowchart of the open access process�(in Japanese) - SA

1 0

Re: [LIS-Forum] Data Migration from One LMS to other and Non-cooperation of Vendors
by Mailing List Admin 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:58:05 +0530 From: Upadhyay P K <pku(a)nic.in> Dear Moderator, Below message posted by me on 28th March was not published. Is there any reason? with regards P K Upadhyay NIC, Delhi ----- Original Message ----- From: Upadhyay P K <pku(a)nic.in> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:55 pm Subject: Re:Data Migration from One LMS to other and Non-cooperation of Vendors To: Swati Bhattacharyya <swati(a)iimcal.ac.in> Cc: "Dr. Rama K C Patro" <rkcpatro(a)iimtobu.ac.in>, lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Dear professional colleagues, Let me write my observation on this discussion for the benefit of LIS professionals. There are pros and cons of suggestions posted here. I make out these points for the sake of clarity: General Issues in Data Migration, Export, Import, Non-Cooperation, and Best Practices. 1. General Issues in Library Data Migration: In this discussion we are only considering one minute aspect of metadata migration of Books from Libsys to other LMS. But other parts are untouched like Journals, Circulation Data, Members records, Article Indexing, Budget, News Clips, Full text files, Images, Audio, Video, etc. Actually the task is increasing day by day due to Library ICT Modernization infrastructure, consolidation and cost optimization. There is a common assumption that whenever you migrate data from one system to another there is certain percentage loss of data if not well planned financially and technically. Actually, softwares are not at fault. Almost all softwares are having the export/import facility. But major issue is human intervention. Very rarely softwares are able to migrate/merge/import all library data automatically without any flaw or loss. Libsys, KOHA, NewGenlib, eGranthalaya, VTLS, Liberty, etc have export/ import facility, but no software can migrate all kinds of the above data automatically. It requires writing software/utility/programmes codes for importing software schema and structure. Who will pay for these efforts? MARCEdit, etc are the tools for exported data of bibliographic recordsonly, but not how to export from Libsys, etc. 2. Export in Excel, MARC21, XML from LMS softwares: Almost all software have export facility. Dr Pardeep Rai wrote that libsys software does not support in exporting data into other format such as CCF, Oracle or MySQL, etc. No question of exporting data directly to Oracle or MySQL. Each software has its own table schema and architecture using Oracle or SQL server or PostgreSQL or MySQL. Of course, Libsys has export facility in their Cataloging module to migrate data in CCF, EXCEL, MARC, Text. Actually more than 95% of Libsys Users are not using any backend database (SQL server or PostgreSQL or MySQL or Oracle) to avoid this type of non-cooperation from Libsys. They have purchased flat file system Libsys software and they have to be much dependant on Libsys for small-small things. 3. Import from Excel, MARC, XML in any LMS or DL: As I wrote no software has perfect automated system to import data/metadata. For example, to the best of my knowledge, Libsys has import facility for only books if you use their typical software without any backend database. Journals, article indexing, fulltext files, images, videos, circulation data, etc. But of course with the help of any Libsys/programmer you can migrate if data is available in softcopy structured format. This is the reason, vendors charge for their effort estimate. Another example, even if your data is in excel, fields may be named differently and data may be entered differently like two Authors separated by comma, sometimes both authors in different columns, then you need little programming to break the data according to new softwares� schema and tables. 4. Non-cooperation from vendors: As Dr Pardeep Rai wrote that Libsys is not cooperating. Dr. R K Ch Patro wrote that Libsys is charging Rs one lakh for migrating 10000 records. I also got similar grievances from four-five professional colleagues, but even then they manage migration without the cooperation of Libsys. NIC has migrated for around 30 libraries Libsys data to eGranthalaya. In eGranthalaya software there is a module for importing data from Excel, XML amd MARC. Dr Manjunath rightly said that your license agreement should be clear enough to take help from any vendors. I will also suggest Libsys to cooperate and not to remove/block the export module in case of not paying AMC with a fear of losing business, instead you will gain more business. Because India is a big country and requires 100s of Libsys like companies to achieve desired level of automation. 5. Best Practices in Data Migration: Following are my suggestion for balancing the issue, a. While purchasing/acquiring the software, ensure in License agreement for export in at least Excel, MARC21, and Structured text. Import is little tedious depending upon data sources, schema, quality, volume and structure but terms and conditions should spell for helping from importing data from at least Excel, Access, MARC, XML, or RDBMS. Vendors may charge some amount for importing when implementing the application softwares. b. Librarians should regularly( daily, monthly, yearly) take backup of database, copy at safe place (pen drive, another computer or network). c. Library Application software should be implemented preferably in web based manner with back end database (either SQL server or PostgreSQL or MySQL, or Oracle, etc) with hosting of data at your Internet service provider�s server with network security, data security and web site auditing. With regards P K Upadhyay NIC, New Delhi http://egranthalaya.nic.in , http://eglibnet.gov.in http://mcitconsortium.nic.in, http://home.nic.in ----- Original Message ----- From: Swati Bhattacharyya <swati(a)iimcal.ac.in> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2013 1:24 pm Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] kindly mail 2 forum members To: "Dr. Rama K C Patro" <rkcpatro(a)iimtobu.ac.in> Cc: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Dear All: > > May I request you, who are trying to take out data from Libsys, > to let us > know which version of Libsys are you currently using? > > Sincerely, > -- > Swati Bhattacharyya > Librarian > Indian Institute of Management Calcutta > Joka, Diamond Harbor Road > Kolkata - 700104 > Ph: +91-33-2467-8300/01 (extn: O:416; R: 106) > >> Dear Dr. Manjunath >> >> I Agree with you,but not now. Like Dr. Pradeep I alos face the same >> problem >> with libsys, They are charging 1lac for conversion of 10k > data. Secondly >> there are also so many library professionals (Worked with > libsys) to whom >> I >> know, they can come volunterly and share their knowledge among > others if >> any >> body organise training they may help, but those who have an > urgency pl >> circulate a note/procedure/guideline form your side how to > convert? So >> that >> they will go ahead. >> Regards >> Dr. R K Ch Patro, Librarian >> Institute for International Management & Technology (IIMT) >> Gurgoan >> 0124-4787111 >>

1 0

Prevalent Practice of Plagiarism: Is there a Solution ?
by Pandurang Konnur 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

Dear Friends, Dew to my busy schedule, I could not see the LIS Forum mail posted by Vasantha Raju and subsequent postings of Prof.Mallinath Kumbar and Dr.A.L.Murthy. I AM DEEPLY HURT BY THIS ACT OF PLAGIARISM. AS MY NAME IS TAKEN AS THE CO-AUTHOR, I OWN THIS RESPONSIBILITY AND PLEAD GUILTY FOR THIS ACT WHICH HAS TAKEN PLACE WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE. The first author was working for his PhD under my guidence and he was to publish two articles before his submission. He came to me with a request that he has made a survey on Education Institutions in Gadag City and written an article based on the survey and requested me to put a word to the editor of SRELS. When I looked at the article, I found that it is an empirical work based on a survey in the place where the author is working. Then I allowed him to use my name as second author and requested the editor to help the research scholar by publishing this article. No guide for that matter can check the authenticity of the article more than this and I did so. To day after reading these postings, I spoke to the first author. In the first instance, he declined the copying. I told him to go through both the articles and send me the truth by mail. I got the mail as under: *" Sir, As you phoned today regarding the article, I have taken/copied some (may be 15 to 20%) of the literature like abstract, references from the particular article but the data was from my survey I have copied the methodology only, not fully copied. And I used the same schedule to survey the colleges at Gadag City. One more thing that I referred all the references and collected the literature from references. It may be same what I had collected and the author of particular article copied from same references. Sir, Once again I wish to tell you that I have not copied full article as it is. I am very sorry for the same. Further, here onwards, I will not copy or put any same information what the other articles have. And the article published in SRELS was reviewed by experts also." Now I have two options before me: One to request the publishers of the journal to withdraw the article from the journal database. Two to surrender all my academic publications back to the profession. Because a sentence used by my friend has touched ma a lot. In my entire currier I have never taken any black spot like this. I have published more than 50 articles (most of them are available on Google scholar). If any of them are traced as pleagured, I will leave my profession on the same day. Just because of the foolish act of my student, I have to be targeted by immatured statements like: *"Those who have the power and money move up to the ladder no matter what their academic credentials are."* I do not know whome this statement is aiming at. But I request my younger generation Librarians to be little cautious while making statements in the forums like this. Secondly my request to all research guides to be cautious before allowing their Research Scholars to put their names as a co-author. *However I leave the judgement to the members of this forum and I assure that I will be abide by your judgement With very high regard to the profession at large. -- *Dr. P. V. Konnur* Professor & Director, School of Applied Sciences, Chairman Department of Library & Information Science, *Rani Channamma University,* Vidhya Sangama, Belgavi – 591 156 Karnataka State, (India) Phone : 91-831-2565216-17 Mobile : 91-9449679737 E-Mail : pvkonnur(a)gmail.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

2 1

Req. clarification on API scores for DIRECT RECRUITMENT of Deputy Librarian and Librarian (University)
by Dimple Patel 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

Dear Professionals, I would like to get some clarity on the API scores required for the DIRECT RECRUITMENT of Deputy Librarian and Librarian posts in universities. In APPENDIX-III: TABLE VII (APIs and proposed scores developed by UGC for adoption of PBAS for Direct Appointment / Career Advancement Scheme (CAS) promotions applicable to Librarian (University) Deputy Librarian and Asstt. Librarian/College Librarian) The following Tables are given: Category I: Procurement, organisation, and delivery of knowledge and information through Library services Category II: Co-Curricular, Extension and Professional Development related activities Category III: Research and Academic contributions In APPENDIX-III: TABLE VIII(c) (MINIMUM APIS AND OTHER NORMS FOR THE DIRECT RECRUITMENT OF LIBRARIAN POSITIONS IN UNIVERSITY DEPARTMENTS/COLLEGES) ( TO BE CONSIDERED ALONG WITH OTHER SPECIFIED ELIGIBILITY QUALIFICATIONS STIPULATED IN THIS UGC REGULATION) column2/row2 the API Score (Research and Academic Contribution -- Category III) only is mentioned where the Consolidated API score requirement is 300 points for Deputy Librarian and 400 points for Librarian (University). I would like clarification whether the Consolidated API score of 300 points for Deputy Librarian and 400 points for Librarian (University) is for all three categories put together (i.e. Category I, II & III as mentioned in the APPENDIX-III: TABLE VII) or only for Category III? -- Regards, Dimple Patel, Central University of Himachal Pradesh TAB, Shahpur, HP. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

1 0

Recruitment of Librarian Post in the University of Agricultural Sciences, Bangalore
by Srinivasa V 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

Dear Sir/Friends Applications are invited for the post of Librarian at University of Agricultural Sciences, GKVK,Bangalore. Pay Scale Rs. 37400-67000+AGP 10000 The entire Notification along with the qualifications and score card prescribed for the post and the prescribed application proforma are accessible and can be downloaded from the official Website: * www, uasbangalore.edu.in * *Last date : 19-4-2013* With Best Regards Srinivasa.V Asst.Librarian, UAS Library, GKVK, Bangalore. Phone: 080-23636243 ext-272 Mobile: 09986560565 Fax: 91-080-234648343 e-Mail: vsrinivas28(a)gmail.com Web: www.libsri.yolasite.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

1 0

Fwd: Re:Data Migration from One LMS to other and Non-cooperation of Vendors
by Upadhyay P K 03 Apr '13

03 Apr '13

Dear Moderator, Below message posted by me on 28th March was not published. Is there any reason? with regards P K Upadhyay NIC, Delhi ----- Original Message ----- From: Upadhyay P K <pku(a)nic.in> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:55 pm Subject: Re:Data Migration from One LMS to other and Non-cooperation of Vendors To: Swati Bhattacharyya <swati(a)iimcal.ac.in> Cc: "Dr. Rama K C Patro" <rkcpatro(a)iimtobu.ac.in>, lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Dear professional colleagues, Let me write my observation on this discussion for the benefit of LIS professionals. There are pros and cons of suggestions posted here. I make out these points for the sake of clarity: General Issues in Data Migration, Export, Import, Non-Cooperation, and Best Practices. 1. General Issues in Library Data Migration: In this discussion we are only considering one minute aspect of metadata migration of Books from Libsys to other LMS. But other parts are untouched like Journals, Circulation Data, Members records, Article Indexing, Budget, News Clips, Full text files, Images, Audio, Video, etc. Actually the task is increasing day by day due to Library ICT Modernization infrastructure, consolidation and cost optimization. There is a common assumption that whenever you migrate data from one system to another there is certain percentage loss of data if not well planned financially and technically. Actually, softwares are not at fault. Almost all softwares are having the export/import facility. But major issue is human intervention. Very rarely softwares are able to migrate/merge/import all library data automatically without any flaw or loss. Libsys, KOHA, NewGenlib, eGranthalaya, VTLS, Liberty, etc have export/ import facility, but no software can migrate all kinds of the above data automatically. It requires writing software/utility/programmes codes for importing software schema and structure. Who will pay for these efforts? MARCEdit, etc are the tools for exported data of bibliographic recordsonly, but not how to export from Libsys, etc. 2. Export in Excel, MARC21, XML from LMS softwares: Almost all software have export facility. Dr Pardeep Rai wrote that libsys software does not support in exporting data into other format such as CCF, Oracle or MySQL, etc. No question of exporting data directly to Oracle or MySQL. Each software has its own table schema and architecture using Oracle or SQL server or PostgreSQL or MySQL. Of course, Libsys has export facility in their Cataloging module to migrate data in CCF, EXCEL, MARC, Text. Actually more than 95% of Libsys Users are not using any backend database (SQL server or PostgreSQL or MySQL or Oracle) to avoid this type of non-cooperation from Libsys. They have purchased flat file system Libsys software and they have to be much dependant on Libsys for small-small things. 3. Import from Excel, MARC, XML in any LMS or DL: As I wrote no software has perfect automated system to import data/metadata. For example, to the best of my knowledge, Libsys has import facility for only books if you use their typical software without any backend database. Journals, article indexing, fulltext files, images, videos, circulation data, etc. But of course with the help of any Libsys/programmer you can migrate if data is available in softcopy structured format. This is the reason, vendors charge for their effort estimate. Another example, even if your data is in excel, fields may be named differently and data may be entered differently like two Authors separated by comma, sometimes both authors in different columns, then you need little programming to break the data according to new softwares’ schema and tables. 4. Non-cooperation from vendors: As Dr Pardeep Rai wrote that Libsys is not cooperating. Dr. R K Ch Patro wrote that Libsys is charging Rs one lakh for migrating 10000 records. I also got similar grievances from four-five professional colleagues, but even then they manage migration without the cooperation of Libsys. NIC has migrated for around 30 libraries Libsys data to eGranthalaya. In eGranthalaya software there is a module for importing data from Excel, XML amd MARC. Dr Manjunath rightly said that your license agreement should be clear enough to take help from any vendors. I will also suggest Libsys to cooperate and not to remove/block the export module in case of not paying AMC with a fear of losing business, instead you will gain more business. Because India is a big country and requires 100s of Libsys like companies to achieve desired level of automation. 5. Best Practices in Data Migration: Following are my suggestion for balancing the issue, a. While purchasing/acquiring the software, ensure in License agreement for export in at least Excel, MARC21, and Structured text. Import is little tedious depending upon data sources, schema, quality, volume and structure but terms and conditions should spell for helping from importing data from at least Excel, Access, MARC, XML, or RDBMS. Vendors may charge some amount for importing when implementing the application softwares. b. Librarians should regularly( daily, monthly, yearly) take backup of database, copy at safe place (pen drive, another computer or network). c. Library Application software should be implemented preferably in web based manner with back end database (either SQL server or PostgreSQL or MySQL, or Oracle, etc) with hosting of data at your Internet service provider’s server with network security, data security and web site auditing. Although lot many things are there to share but for any more discussion/clarification I will be happy to write. With regards P K Upadhyay NIC, New Delhi http://egranthalaya.nic.in , http://eglibnet.gov.in http://mcitconsortium.nic.in, http://home.nic.in ----- Original Message ----- From: Swati Bhattacharyya <swati(a)iimcal.ac.in> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2013 1:24 pm Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] kindly mail 2 forum members To: "Dr. Rama K C Patro" <rkcpatro(a)iimtobu.ac.in> Cc: lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Dear All: > > May I request you, who are trying to take out data from Libsys, > to let us > know which version of Libsys are you currently using? > > Sincerely, > -- > Swati Bhattacharyya > Librarian > Indian Institute of Management Calcutta > Joka, Diamond Harbor Road > Kolkata - 700104 > Ph: +91-33-2467-8300/01 (extn: O:416; R: 106) > > > Dear Dr. Manjunath > > > > I Agree with you,but not now. Like Dr. Pradeep I alos face the same > > problem > > with libsys, They are charging 1lac for conversion of 10k > data. Secondly > > there are also so many library professionals (Worked with > libsys) to whom > > I > > know, they can come volunterly and share their knowledge among > others if > > any > > body organise training they may help, but those who have an > urgency pl > > circulate a note/procedure/guideline form your side how to > convert? So > > that > > they will go ahead. > > Regards > > Dr. R K Ch Patro, Librarian > > Institute for International Management & Technology (IIMT) > > Gurgoan > > 0124-4787111 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lis-forum-bounces(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > [mailto:lis-forum-bounces@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in] On Behalf Of > Rajesh Bhardwaj > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 3:59 PM > > To: gkm(a)igidr.ac.in > > Cc: lis-forum > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] kindly mail 2 forum members > > > > Dear Dr. Manjunath, > > This is really a good subject to discuss, If you can help / guide > > professionals through this forum about importing the data from > libsys to > > Excel or other CCF.It would really helpful to all. Organising > a training / > > workshop would take lot of time, which is the next step of > discussion.> Regards > > Rajesh Kumar > > FORE School of Management New Delhi. > > > > On 25 March 2013 10:14, Pardeep Rai <raipardeep(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: G.K.MANJUNATH <gkm(a)igidr.ac.in> > >> Date: 23 March 2013 07:14 > >> Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] kindly mail 2 forum members > >> To: Pardeep Rai <raipardeep(a)gmail.com> > >> > >> > >> > >> You need to attend or organise at least two days workshop at > your place > >> regarding criteria for selecting library software, software > management>> and > >> data coversion. > >> > >> Bibliographic data, in fact, from libsys can be converted to CCF, > >> MARC21, > >> Excel etc. It all depends on the features you opted for > at the time of > >> signing license agreement with Libsys or with any other software > >> vendors. > >> > >> Most important, you have not mentioned your affiliation ( > place of work > >> ) > >> in your email. > >> > >> Dr,G.K.Manjunath > >> Chief Librarian > >> Indira Gandhi Inst of > Development Research > >> Film City Road > >> Santosh Nagar > >> Goregaon(East ) > >> MUMBAI - 400 065 > >> > >> Phone: 022-28416528 > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, 22 Mar 2013, Pardeep Rai wrote: > >> > >> Dear Friends > >>> I would like to share a common issue raised by many professional > >>> colleagues > >>> who are using the Libsys software. If any library wish to > migrate from > >>> libsys to another LMS or ERP. This is really a very > difficult task, > >>> because, libsys software does not support in exporting data > into other > >>> common communication format (CCF) such Oracle or MySQL, etc. > and libsys > >>> people does not cooperate at all. > >>> > >>> Those professionals who have migrated from libsys to another > LMS or ERP > >>> can > >>> help in this case. > >>> > >>> They are requested to share their experience, how, by > which ways and > >>> means > >>> they have fetched the data from libsys. Please share > how the data be > >>> can > >>> be imported into Excel, Oracle or MySQL, etc. > >>> This will help many professionals who are floating in such > >>> circumstances. > >>> regards > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> - > >>> > >>> *Thanks & Regards* > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *Dr.Pardeep Rai ** * > >>> > >>> -- > >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and > >>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >>> believed to be clean. > >>> > >>>

1 0