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Fwd: [Sigiii-l] Fwd.: UNESCO-SALIS, India, e-Learning Portal for Awareness Raising on Information Literacy
by Subbiah Arunachalam 29 May '07

29 May '07

--- "M.J. Menou" <michel.menou(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:29:18 +0200 > From: "M.J. Menou" <michel.menou(a)wanadoo.fr> > To: sigiii-l <sigiii-l(a)asis.org> > Subject: [Sigiii-l] Fwd.: UNESCO-SALIS, India, > e-Learning Portal for Awareness Raising on > Information Literacy > > UNESCO-SALIS e-Learning Portal for Awareness Raising > on Information Literacy > The Society for the Advancement of Library and > Information Science > (SALIS), India, in collaboration with UNESCO, has > just launched a > six-month project entitled Interactive E-Learning > Portal on Information > Literacy Competency Development Skills for South > Asia. > > open News > http://portal.unesco.org/ci/en/ev.php-URL_ID=24555&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECT… > > > > UNESCO Office in New Delhi > 25-05-2007 12:00 > > The project aims to raise awareness and enhance > information literacy > competency skills of laymen as well as information > professionals and > educators. Its objectives are fully in line with > UNESCOs mandate to > bridge the digital divide and UNESCOs vision of > Knowledge Societies. > > This project has its genesis in recommendations of a > UNESCO supported > Workshop on Information Literacy Competency > Development for Information > Professionals and Special Educators organized last > November by SALIS in > Chennai, India, and subsequent information literacy > sensitization > workshops held in Delhi and Nagpur. Following a > documentation period, it > is now set to begin in the third week of May 2007. > > The e-learning portal will cover a number of > self-learning modules, such as: > > * Information Literacy, > * Information Literacy Models and Standards, > * Information Communication Technology (ICT), > * Information Services for the Disabled People, > * Information Literacy Assessment, > * Freedom of Information/Right to Information, > * Lifelong Learning and Development of Life > Skills, > * Sample Information Literacy Programmes for > Library and Community > Information Centre Users. > > The portal will be developed using Moodle Open > Source software, an > internationally renowned Courseware Management > System (CMS) or Virtual > Learning Environment (VLE). > > On completion of the project, the information > professionals, educators > and other persons may participate in the ensuing > online course to > enhance information literacy skills based on a set > of interactive > activities, such as assignments, self-check > exercises, multiple-choice > questions, and quizzes. > > > UNESCO-SALIS workshop to build capacity of educators > for the disabled > Society for the Advancement of Library and > Information Sciences (SALIS) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sigiii-l mailing list > Sigiii-l(a)asis.org > http://mail.asis.org/mailman/listinfo/sigiii-l > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.ht… -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Lecture invitation
by srels 28 May '07

28 May '07

Dear Sir, Kindly arrange to announce the following invitation to the lis-forum members. Yours truly, K.N. Prasad Sarada Ranganathan Endowment for Library Science 702, 'Upstairs', 42nd Cross (near Syndicate Bank) III Block, Rajajinagar, Bangalore 560 010 ***** The Board of Trustees of the Sarada Ranganathan Endowment for Library Science (SRELS), Bangalore in association with Ranganathan Centre for Information Studies (RCIS), Chennai and Bangalore cordially invites you to a Lecture on Dr. S.R. Ranganathan and his Contributions by Padmashree Prof. P.N. Kaula Retd. Professor and Head, Department of Library and Information Science Banaras Hindu University, Varanasi on Monday, 4th June 2007 at 6.00 p.m. at SRELS, 702, 42nd Cross, 3rd Block, Rajajinagar, Bangalore 560 010 Prof. M.A. Gopinath Visiting Professor, North Carolina Centrel University, Durham, NC 27707, USA will preside RSVP: Dr. K.N.Prasad - Ph:(080) 23305109 E-mail: srels(a)dataone.in -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Re: [LIS-Forum] information
by Mailing List Admin 28 May '07

28 May '07

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Madehow -- a link from Professor C.Amarnath, IIT Bombay.
by Mr. B. G. Sunder Singh 28 May '07

28 May '07

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How to start book clubs
by Padmanabha Vyasamoorthy 28 May '07

28 May '07

Following how-to article is quite detailed. While I was in Satyam we had book review sessions. Incentive for the reviewer was that he can have a copy of the book he chooses to review at the cost of the library. (Vyasamoorthy) ===================== How to start book clubs Want to meet some interesting characters? Open a book. Want to meet some real-life interesting characters, too? Start a book group! Book groups (a.k.a. "book clubs") are a great way to commune with friends and meet new people while exploring (hopefully) good books. What's more, membership in a book group can help you stay motivated to read if you otherwise have difficulty finding time to pick up a book. If you can't find a group in your area, maybe it's time to start one. Here's how. Steps 1. Decide on your requirements. You should definitely allow the group to make most decisions, but if you have certain requirements for the club (for example, if you just like to read science fiction or if you can only meet on Thursdays), you should set them out ahead of time. 2. Find a location for the initial meeting. If you feel comfortable inviting people into your home, you can have at least the first meeting at your house or apartment as long as you have enough room. Otherwise, you can usually reserve space for free at community centers, libraries or churches, or you might try to get a bookstore to let you hold your meeting there. If you can find someplace convenient where you can hold regular meetings, so much the better. 3. Make and distribute a flyer. This announces the time and place of the first meeting and any other relevant information, such as whether refreshments will be served. Ask that people bring suggestions of books to read. Deliver copies of the flyer to local bookstores, and put them up on community bulletin boards at grocery stores, churches, etc. You can also advertise online on the community pages of sites such as Craigslist. Be sure to clarify that the purpose of the group is to discuss books, not to order books together at a reduced price. 4. Prepare a clipboard. For the initial meeting, this should include at least two items: a "Book Suggestions" page, where members can write down titles they recommend for the group, and a "Hosting and Refreshments" page where members can sign up for a date that is convenient for them to take these responsibilities. You want the attendees names. A head count is not sufficient. For subsequent meetings, you'll also want to include a "Coming Soon" page, the reading schedule for the next two or three meetings. This clipboard should make the rounds at every meeting. 5. Prepare the meeting space. Make sure the meeting space is clean and inviting. Most importantly, make sure you have enough chairs, and set up refreshments. 6. Greet the potential members at the first meeting. Introduce yourself and try to make sure that each feels welcome and comfortable. Let them know you're glad to see them. 7. Start the first meeting by stating the agenda and making introductions. If some of your guests don't know each other, go around and have everybody introduce themselves. You may also want to do this at subsequent meetings if new members are in attendance. Ask that people tell the group a little bit about themselves and their reading interests. During the introductions, send the clipboard around so people can write down book suggestions and sign up to bring refreshments or, if necessary, to host. 8. Explain or decide how often, for how long, and where the group will meet and how much reading the group should generally get through from meeting to meeting. Some issues to discuss are: * Do you want to set rules about the books, such as pricing or content? * What are the members' expectations of the group, and what are their responsibilities as members? * What is the group's policy on smoking, pets, tardiness, and telephone calls during book discussions? * Can members bring a guest? * Can new people join, or is there a limit to the group size? 9. Decide on the first book to read. The easiest way to do this is to simply pick a book yourself -- try to pick one, such as a current bestseller, with wide appeal -- but if you don't want to go out on a limb, you can decide as a group. An easy way to do this is to choose the book that received the most suggestions on the clipboard. You can also put several suggestions to a vote. At future meetings, you'll be able to streamline this process (see Tips). 10. Break out the refreshments and chat. Now that the really hard work is done, relax and let people talk and leave as they will. Be sure to speak to each person again so they feel more comfortable and invested in the group. Tips * Don't be overly selective about whom you invite. Diversity makes things interesting, so cast a wide net. * Get some nametags. Especially at the first meeting, it's a good idea to have nametags so that people can start to learn each other's names. * Since you are starting the book club, you are entirely responsible for the initial meeting. You should thus take that turn to provide refreshments. You don't have to, of course, but if you do you'll probably get a better turnout. * Deciding as a group which book to read next takes forever. Either take turns choosing, or put one person in charge of scheduling the books. This person should try to ensure that everyone who wants to suggest a book gets their chance. Some people may not want to. * Have an annual party at which each member nominates 2-3 books and vote on them. The 12 books chosen (if you meet monthly) are then scheduled for the entire year. * If you want to make choosing books really easy, just agree to use the selections of an established book club, such as Doubleday's or Oprah's. Search the internet, and you'll probably find a book club whose selections interest you, no matter what genre(s) you prefer. * At future meetings, let the person who suggested the book start the discussion. Then go around the circle in order at least once. This way everyone is encouraged and enabled to talk about what they've read, and the group can comment on their points. * Be prepared to politely maneuver on to the next person if one member goes on too long. * Many book stores offer discounts to book groups. Ask around before you buy. * Don't panic if things are a little stiff in the beginning. People (including you) will grow more comfortable over time. * If you're taking turns hosting or providing refreshments, be sure to remind people at the meeting before their turn. * To make things easier, one person can be in charge of getting the books. If this is the case, that person should have the book for the next meeting ready for pickup/payment at the current meeting. The "Coming Soon" page can double as an order page where people sign up to receive books for future meetings. This is important because not everybody will be able to attend every meeting. Warnings * Try to avoid micro-managing the group. After the first meeting, do your best to help things run smoothly, but let the group run itself as much as possible. Don't make yourself responsible for everything, especially hosting or providing refreshments. You'll burn out pretty quickly. Things You'll Need * A love of people * A love of books * Moderate organizational skills (From wikihow ) -- sent by --------------------- Dr P Vyasamoorthy, Society for Serving Seniors 30, Gruhalakshmi Colony, Secunderabad 500015 Phone 27846631 http://societyforservingseniors.satyamcsr.org -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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library vacancies BHU
by shriram pandey 27 May '07

27 May '07

Dear All, Central Library, BHU(Banaras Hindu University) Invites vacancies for the post of SEMI PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANT. Total-19,gen-5,sc-7,st-3,obc-4 Qualification-graduate+BLIS Last date-30- june-2007 Detail information available on www.bhu.ac.in -- Shri Ram Pandey Master of Library and Information Science BHU,Varanasi -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Eddy Celebrates Open Access in Franklin Speech
by madhuresh.singhal 25 May '07

25 May '07

Dear All, You will enjoy this article. The online version (with photo of Eddy and links) is available at http://www.bio-itworld.com/newsitems/2007/may/05-22-06-eddy Eddy Celebrates Open Access in Franklin Speech By Kevin Davies May 22, 2007 | BOSTON -- Sean Eddy accepted the 2007 Benjamin Franklin Award and then proceeded to poke a few good-natured holes in Franklin's sterling open access reputation. Eddy noted ironically that the U.S. Patent Office was founded (by Thomas Jefferson) the year Benjamin Franklin died in 1790! Thus, even if he had wanted to apply for a federal patent, he could only have done so posthumously. Eddy also noted that Franklin was once embroiled in his own "open access dispute" in the 1730s and 1740s. When Philadelphia postmaster Andrew Bradford wouldn't carry Franklin's competing newspaper, Franklin engineered the firing of Bradford and took over as postmaster, generously agreeing to carry his competitor's newspaper. But in 1740, the first American magazines were founded, and Franklin refused to carry Bradford's new magazine. Open access to software, journal articles, and data is an issue of profound importance to researchers across the community. The first journals, created in the mid 1600s, were founded with a tacit quid pro quo: disseminate your research, allow others to reproduce your work, and gain a measure of fame in the process. The notoriously secretive Isaac Newton once submitted a paper to the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society (London) on light refraction. But his paper was attacked by the reviewers, and then in the journal. Frustrated, Newton refused to submit another paper to the journal. Four centuries later, the issue hasn't changed so much. In 2001, Celera published its assembly of the human genome in Science, but refused to freely distribute the sequence without restrictions. Eddy said he uses Celera's DVD as a coffee coaster, because the terms barred him from redistributing the sequence data. In the aftermath of the controversy, the National Academy of Sciences convened the Cech Report, reaffirming the quid pro quo of science publication. "If you're not disclosing anything, why should you get credit?" said Eddy. "All members of the scientific community ... are playing on the same playing field. [If] Celera publishes a paper, their genome sequence should be available. [If] I publish a paper, my software should not be made available to academics only, but to [everyone]." Bioinformatics Access Eddy devoted most of his talk to the topic of data dissemination and open access. "We want not just humans to be able to read the literature, but computers to be able to read the literature." Said Eddy: "The bioinformatics community is the canary in the coalmine for this kind of issue, we're affected by this issue. We're the ones trying to integrate large datasets. If the dataset is there but not integratable, we know about it first.... The literature affects us very much." Eddy credited his fellow Franklin Award nominees as providing "great examples of the kind of bioinformatics access that we need." He praised Don Gilbert for creating influential programs and databases such as a freely available biosequence search tool, as well as FlyBase. Steven Salzberg is a "vocal leader in the community" and Robert Gentleman was credited for "influential things" including BioConductor (for microarray analysis). "For me, open access is secondary. The goal is to create systems that work... open access is necessary but not sufficient." Eddy made a strong case that it is worth academics taking time away from their top priority - writing papers - to "create tools and make sure that they get used by the community." There are several keys to doing that successfully, including choosing the right problem, preparing a simple manual, making it freely and readily available, and ensuring that it is integrated into the community's system. Eddy is best known for a program called HMMER, for running profile hidden Markov models on sequence families. The software is easily downloadable, and runs on anything, said Eddy. There is one page of instructions for installation, another page for getting started. . Integration with other systems is also hugely important. InterPro is a compilation of 11 protein search tools, including Eddy's Pfam tool, organized by the European Bioinformatics Institute to help groups doing protein domain analyses. Eddy noted a handful of other databases use different software packages that are not readily available - which benefits him. "I get market share," said Eddy. "My stuff becomes better known, more widely used and [has] more impact on the community. I'm taking market share from guys who have [software] stuck behind wall of academic licensing." Although a staunch believer in open access, Eddy noted that private industry can seek a license to HMMER through the Washington University tech transfer office, which has brought in over $100,000 in licensing revenue to the university. He also said that the creation of HMMER was a major factor in his obtaining tenure, even though he never published a paper on it. Curiously, Eddy noted that the International Society for Computational Biology has a policy against open source software. Some members, he said, think they should be able to make money from industry for writing software. "Some people with a similar mindset as me have infiltrated the board of directors," and will work to change the system. The Benjamin Franklin Award is presented by the Bioinformatics Organization. The award has been given at the annual Bio-IT World Conference & Expo for the past four years. Regards Madhuresh Singhal Assoc. Res. Scientist - Inf. Sc. Advinus Therapeutics Pvt. Ltd. 21 & 22, Phase 2, Peenya Industrial Area, Bangalore - 560058 Phone: +91 80 28394959; Mobile 098861 82822 E-mail: madhureshsinghal(a)yahoo.com http://nettalk2.tripod.com/ ************************************************************************************************ This email and its attachments are confidential and proprietary to Advinus Therapeutics Pvt. Ltd. and are meant for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient, do not take any actions based on the contents of this message, except to permanently delete the message and its attachments and inform the sender immediately. ************************************************************************************************ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Help me to find out this article.
by Rohit Sahu 25 May '07

25 May '07

> > Dear friends, I need one article. Please help me find out this article. Beyond the Many Faces of Price: An Integration of Pricing Strategies. Gerard J. Tellis *Journal of Marketing, Vol. 50, No. 4 (Oct., 1986), pp. 146-160* Thanks and regards, Rohit Kumar Sahu Associate Librarian Pearl School of Business 46 Institutional Area, Sector -32 www.psbg.in rohit.sahu(a)psbg.in -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Re: [LIS-Forum] information
by Dr.D.P Prathap 25 May '07

25 May '07

Dear colleagues Please give me CORRECT and working email ID of Oxford and IBH Co. Pvt.Ltd., Janpath, New Delhi and also web-address, if available. The email id, as given in www.fpbai.org, doesn't work. ============================== (D.PUTHIRA PRATHAP) OFFICER IN-CHARGE, LIBRARY SUGARCANE BREEDING INSTITUTE, COIMBATORE – 641 007. INDIA PHONE: 91-422-2472621; FAX: 91-422-2472923 www.sugarcane-breeding.tn.nic.in sbilibrary(a)gmail.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Re: [LIS-Forum] Efforts of MyDLIS, University of Mysore in introducing
by Rajan 24 May '07

24 May '07

Dear All, It seems that we need not discuss much if some library schools are good, better or exemplary. They are expected to be good and they may be good. But we should discuss if some of them are not good so as to enable them to be good by helping them identify the strengths, weaknesses and showing them the right path. When a dog bites a man,it never becomes a subject for discussion. But when the reverse happens, it need to be discussed. Likewise we need not discuss the former. Let us agree that our library schools ,teachers and the outcome are good.But the library scenario in the country leaves much to be desired. It is just like saying that the operation was successful ,but the patient died. Do we need a project or research to make an analytical account of the effectiveness of the library school as a training ground of library professionals? I think it is not very essential. We can evaluate the potential of a library school by an informal talk with the teachers there or by applying some simple yardsticks, if we have common sense. Good researches are mere application of common sense, but in a systematic manner. Our National Knowledge Commission has identified that we need to do much in library scenario to make it useful for the emerging economy and certainly our library schools - many which I know - in general need to do a lot to meet those challenges.The real issue that we need to discuss is how can we make them better? Regards, K Rajasekharan Librarian , Kerala Institute of Local Administration Mulagunnathukavu, Thrissur -680581 Ph 0487- 2204097 (O), 2201428 ( R) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:40:11 +0530 From: "Shalini Urs" <shalini(a)isim.ac.in> Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Efforts of MyDLIS, University of Mysore in introducing ICT skills among students To: <lis-forum-bounces(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in>, <lis-forum(a)ncsi.iisc.ernet.in> Message-ID: <200705241113.l4OBDDRP026137(a)mail.iisc.ernet.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear All, First a disclaimer: I cite the MyDLIS case as a case in point only - it does not mean 'others' are NOT doing what is expected. Secondly my apologies for a long winding message. I would like to thank all those who have conveyed their greetings and responses (for the posting by my colleague Hari) To continue the discussion, I have a question in the context of LIS curriculum. Has anyone done a systematic study of the LIS syllabus of universities before branding them as NOT GOOD ENOUGH or AS GOOD AS NCSI/DRTC?. I beg to differ here - our (MyDLIS) syllabus is in tune with both the changing scenario of LIS as well as market expectations/demands. Please have a look at our syllabus - <http://lisc.uni-mysore.ac.in/> http://lisc.uni-mysore.ac.in PLEASE DO NOT MAKE SWEEPING GENERALISATIONS. Please also note that graduates from LIS schools are also doing quite well in many companies. We have our students working in companies such as IBM, Wipro, TCS, InfoSys, Accenture, I2 technologies, etc. We have received 'words of praise' about our students from their bosses. Some of our students also have effortlessly transited to KM and a few of them to even mainstream 'technical' areas. I would say it is all individual specific and case dependent. Excellence or progress is NOT the monopoly of elite institutions only. Let me respond to some of the questions/assumptions/opinions expressed with reference to the following- * LIS curriculum * Market expectations and demands/requirements Designing/adoption of LIS curriculum etc: * UGC is only a recommendatory /norm setting body in academic matters. UGC may recommend a model syllabus, but cannot make it mandatory. Each university is autonomous. The Board of Studies (BOS) in LIS of each university is in charge of drafting the syllabus/curriculum. They have the autonomy to design the syllabus. The BOS in any discipline (including LIS) consists of senior faculty of the Department as well couple of external experts. * There is usually a norm that the BOS revise/review the syllabus once in said number of years (in our case it is 3 years). In fact university encourages us to modify and keep it up to date. Many times, we get some small grants to organise workshops etc and invite experts to discuss on the curriculum. And we do carry out such exercises too. * The guiding principles of curriculum innovations are -changing dynamics of the LIS as a discipline and the market expectations/demands. * In addition to these two guiding principles, we also need to keep in mind - the pragmatics of imparting the syllabus such as infrastructure and other resources. * When it comes to ICT skills etc, the physical infrastructure such as an IT lab and the well trained teachers are two important criteria for the effectiveness of imparting the programme. * It is the responsibility of the departments to mobilise the resources and create the necessary infrastructure and resources in terms of trained teachers. Individual teachers also are responsible for keeping their knowledge and skill sets contemporary. There are many different strategies/opportunities that an LIS department uses to accomplish the above. Many LIS Departments have been successful in this regard. Market expectations/demands (wrt ICT): * In today's digital age, all sectors need ICT infrastructure and therefore LIS professionals with these skills are in need. The difference is in the kinds of specialised knowledge required. We cannot generalise again. * The market may vary in terms of opportunities. Today we may find more opportunities (in terms of number) in the private sector than in the public sector. Sometimes it is seasonal. * Deploying ICT many a times depends on the individuals working in these segments. I can cite examples of some of our students working in college libraries taking the initiative and deploying open source software (be it Koha or Open Biblio or something else) for automating their libraries. Instances where college libraries having deployed DSpace/ Greenstone for different types of repositories (may be student project reports/question papers etc) are NOT uncommon. * In a company LIS professionals may be called upon to manage electronic resources through intranets and portals, but not necessarily be required to deploy software tools or handle ICT infrastructure issues as they have technical people to manage the same, where as in academic segment, the librarians maybe called upon to install software, and manage the ICT infrastructure! I would like to end this lengthy note with the following - please do not dismiss LIS schools. Given the constraints that we work in, some of us have done very well indeed. Our products have also done fairly well and responded to the market expectations very well and MyDLIS is proud of them. Thank you Dr. Shalini R. Urs Executive Director and Professor International School of Information Management University of Mysore Mysore - 570006 India Tel : 91-821-2514699 Fax : 91-821-2519209 Email : shalini(a)isim.ac.in URL : www.vidyanidhi.org.in/shaliniurs.htm -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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