Hi Colleagues, I agree with Mr. Dash. Scholars are looking for a "Search Place", where they can search for all information. Google Scholar is negotiating with Journal Publishers for getting into their server, and harvest their ToC, Abstract and reference parts of each article. When GS comes out with its full version, any one can search for Scholarly literature, from the vast array of Free and Paid journals, at the same time and at single place. The beauty of its Citation search adds GS's expected acceptance among Academia. Still it in its Beta. Remember that, we do not have a free service sofar, to do so. After retrieving the bibliographic Results, next step is to look for fulltext. If it is an Open Access journal, we can freely download them. What will happen to Paid articles. Here again, Google Scholar is started Document Delivery, and they already made arrangements with british library. See the press release at http://www.bl.uk/news/2006/pressrelease20060302.html. They will be collaborating with other Doc Delivery systems in near future. What will be its effect on Libraries? We will be getting a new free service, to which we used to pay huge amounts to Online Database providers. In near future these people will be forced to collaborate with GS, and Libraries will be benefited in great deal. We should understand that, the world wide resistance to Google from librarians are coming down, after their major projects like Google Scholar. As long as it is FREE, we will be benfitted. As librarians, our job is to support it, and lobby for its "FREE" status for ever. GS will be more than, what we have today. Vijayakumar J. K "Sh. Jitendra N. Dash" wrote: Dear Colleagues, I found the following write-up by Mr. Singh is intersting but he avoided the strong point of Google Scholar(GS), free citation retrieval search engine. Presently there is no search engine which provides citation(s) to scholarly papers freely. I found our scientists group is interested with GS,also I found citations are reliable.GS provides link to PubMed, free/open access journal, pay-based journals, books etc. Its features are discussed in peer reviewed journals like Nature.So,if GS will provide link only to free/open access journals papers then how users will come to know there citations in the journals which are subscribed in our libraries. Proper search technique retrieves relevant results. But one of the nagative points is GS was updated first time after six month of its initial launch (Nov, 2004) which is discussed. We may hope its present beta version may be evolved to a relevant search engine for scholars, specially in the areas where scholars are struggling for resources. Regards, JN Dash NII, New Delhi Sukhdev Singh wrote: This morning was frustating with Google Scholar. I just wanted to get hold of some scholary literature on "Methods for Benchmarking Organisations". So, opened up Google Scholar and fired the first term - "benchmarking". Good - 149,000 hits to good quality looking literature. So, started clicking by one by one to see the hits. But, what is this?!! Almost every click was asking me to pay somewhere 20 to 40 Dollars to have the access to full text. Obiously - this is the locked up knowledge for me. What is the use of these wonderful hits to high quality literature when I can not view them. Next I opened up Open J-Gate and fired the same term "benchmarking". Had to wait for the results. Ultimately got the result - 216 hits. This served my purpose. Not that these pointed to high quality papers. But I got what I wanted in return for what I could afford to pay for. No wasting of time in clicking and waiting to learn that I can't afford to buy the stuff. Later found that OAIster gave 1674 hits for the same term. But then, all Open/Free Access literature may not be OAI compliant. Why can't Google creates a service for just Open/Free Access Scholary Literature and name it as OpenScholar?. Its better technology can help small mortals like me. Sukhdev Singh, NIC. http://openmed.nic.in --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "medlib" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: medlib-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/medlib/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: medlib-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Hi Colleagues,   I agree with Mr. Dash. Scholars are looking for a "Search Place", where they can search for all information. Google Scholar is negotiating with Journal Publishers for getting into their server, and harvest their ToC, Abstract and reference parts of each article. When GS comes out with its full version, any one can search for Scholarly literature, from the vast array of Free and Paid journals, at the same time and at single place. The beauty of its Citation search adds GS's expected acceptance among Academia. Still it in its Beta. Remember that, we do not have a free service sofar, to do so.   After retrieving the bibliographic Results, next step is to look for fulltext. If it is an Open Access journal, we can freely download them. What will happen to Paid articles. Here again, Google Scholar is started Document Delivery, and they already made arrangements with british library. See the press release at http://www.bl.uk/news/2006/pressrelease20060302.html http://www.bl.uk/news/2006/pressrelease20060302.html . They will be collaborating with other Doc Delivery systems in near future.   What will be its effect on Libraries? We will be getting a new free service, to which we used to pay huge amounts to Online Database providers. In near future these people will be forced to collaborate with GS, and Libraries will be benefited in great deal.   We should understand that, the world wide resistance to Google from librarians are coming down, after their major projects like Google Scholar. As long as it is FREE, we will be benfitted. As librarians, our job is to support it, and lobby for its "FREE" status for ever. GS will be more than, what we have today.   Vijayakumar J. K   "Sh. Jitendra N. Dash" wrote: Dear Colleagues, I found the following write-up by Mr. Singh is intersting but he avoided the strong point of Google Scholar(GS), free citation retrieval search engine. Presently there is no search engine which provides citation(s) to scholarly papers freely. I found our scientists group is interested with GS,also I found citations are reliable.GS provides link to PubMed, free/open access journal, pay-based journals, books etc. Its features are discussed in peer reviewed journals like Nature.So,if GS will provide link only to free/open access journals papers then how users will come to know there citations in the journals which are subscribed in our libraries. Proper search technique retrieves relevant results. But one of the nagative points is GS was updated first time after six month of its initial launch (Nov, 2004) which is discussed. We may hope its present beta version may be evolved to a relevant search engine for scholars, specially in the areas where scholars are struggling for resources. Regards, JN Dash NII, New Delhi Sukhdev Singh wrote: This morning was frustating with Google Scholar. I just wanted to get hold of some scholary literature on "Methods for Benchmarking Organisations". So, opened up Google Scholar and fired the first term - "benchmarking". Good - 149,000 hits to good quality looking literature. So, started clicking by one by one to see the hits. But, what is this?!! Almost every click was asking me to pay somewhere 20 to 40 Dollars to have the access to full text. Obiously - this is the locked up knowledge for me. What is the use of these wonderful hits to high quality literature when I can not view them. Next I opened up Open J-Gate and fired the same term "benchmarking". Had to wait for the results. Ultimately got the result - 216 hits. This served my purpose. Not that these pointed to high quality papers. But I got what I wanted in return for what I could afford to pay for. No wasting of time in clicking and waiting to learn that I can't afford to buy the stuff. Later found that OAIster gave 1674 hits for the same term. But then, all Open/Free Access literature may not be OAI compliant. Why can't Google creates a service for just Open/Free Access Scholary Literature and name it as OpenScholar?. Its better technology can help small mortals like me. Sukhdev Singh, NIC. http://openmed.nic.in --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "medlib" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: medlib-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. 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