Loved your response! As I keep reiterating - while I believe that knowledge should be available to all, there are costs in producing knowledge. I wonder - will people be happy to just keep their research results in any preprints archive and not have them published in journals? If they do not get them published in journals - what happens to their promotions? Why does everyone want to get their article published only in high impact factor / international journals? I am not wanting to judge anyone's actions. We need to lay them all out, and with all possible data and factors arrive at the right answers. As you say - we need the right OA (and more?) elements to be sorted out in order to do this The million dollar question is Who will do it? Vasumathi Sriganesh QMed Knowledge Foundation A-3, Shubham Center, Cardinal Gracious Road Chakala, Andheri East, Mumbai 400099, India Tel: 91-22-40054474 Mob: +919867292230 Email: vasu@qmed.ngo Web:www.qmed.ngo MMC Speaker Code - MMC/MASS/00030/2016 Member: Academy of Health Professions Education Our online courses - www.qmedcourses.in On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:58 AM Sathyanarayana NV < sathya@informaticsglobal.com> wrote:

Dear Madhan, Interesting call by Paulo Coelho! The universe owned by the authors should turn Gandhian by changing the currently used copyright statement “All rights reserved” to a new statement “All rights unreserved”.

Gandhi wrote his famous book “Hind Swaraj: Indian Home Rule” in 1915 during his journey by ship from South Africa to India. He released this book in Gujarathi and English with both imprints carrying the statement “All rights unreserved”. Gandhi was a lawyer by profession as we know. Back in India, he intended this book to serve the purpose of launching his non-violence style of freedom movement. It is another story that his Gujarathi edition was banned by the British Government. They didn’t bother about Indian edition as they thought that none would read English version!

The important message here from Gandhi to the authors of the scholarly communication in particular -- which is a far better message than Paul Coelho, is: declare your papers at the pre-print level itself with the statement: “All rights unreserved” and post it in a public repository site like arXiv or chemrXiv or medrXiv or biorXiv. This may start a new “Sathyagraha” (civil disobedience) movement leading to free the scholarly journals from the pay-wall controlled subscription model for ever! Gandhi taught us to be truthful and not steal from others. Instead of giving a call to defend thieves and pirates like Alexandra Elbakyan, OA movement should pursue the leading scientists and researchers of India and the world to rigorously pursue the Gandhian model.

OA movement needs to be re-invented, two decades after its first-round of limited success so far, waking up the scholarly world only partially! We need a Gandhian of the scholarly world to emerge for this. Who could this be?

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From: LIS-Forum Date: Wednesday, 30 December 2020 at 11:08 PM To: lis-forum@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Subject: [LIS-Forum] Pirates of the world, unite and pirate everything I’ve ever written! - Paulo Coelho My thoughts on S.O.P.A.

Paulo Coelho

https://paulocoelhoblog.com/2012/01/20/welcome-to-pirate-my-books/

As an author, I should be defending ‘intellectual property’, but I’m not.

Pirates of the world, unite and pirate everything I’ve ever written!

The good old days, when each idea had an owner, are gone forever.

First, because all anyone ever does is recycle the same four themes: a love story between two people, a love triangle, the struggle for power, and the story of a journey.

Second, because all writers want what they write to be read, whether in a newspaper, blog, pamphlet, or on a wall.

The more often we hear a song on the radio, the keener we are to buy the CD. It’s the same with literature.

-- Madhan, M

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Dear Sathya: "For someone denounced as a criminal by powerful corporations and scholarly societies, Elbakyan was surprisingly forthcoming and transparent. After establishing contact through an encrypted chat system, she worked with me over the course of several weeks to create a data set for public release: every download event over the 6-month period starting 1 September 2015, including the digital object identifier (DOI) for every paper." "Elbakyan also answered nearly every question I had about her operation of the website, interaction with users, and even her personal life. Among the few things she would not disclose is her current location, because she is at risk of financial ruin, extradition, and imprisonment because of a lawsuit launched by Elsevier last year." ......"It’s hard to discern how threatened by Sci-Hub Elsevier and other major publishers truly feel, in part because legal download totals aren’t typically made public." https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/04/whos-downloading-pirated-papers-ever... Why publishers are not revealing "article level" download statistics to even institutions that take subscription to their journals? Madhan On Thu, 31 Dec, 2020, 08:34 Sathyanarayana NV, wrote:

Dear Madhan,

Interesting call by Paulo Coelho!

The universe owned by the authors should turn Gandhian by changing the currently used copyright statement “All rights reserved” to a new statement “All rights unreserved”.

Gandhi wrote his famous book “Hind Swaraj: Indian Home Rule” in 1915 during his journey by ship from South Africa to India. He released this book in Gujarathi and English with both imprints carrying the statement “All rights unreserved”. Gandhi was a lawyer by profession as we know. Back in India, he intended this book to serve the purpose of launching his non-violence style of freedom movement. It is another story that his Gujarathi edition was banned by the British Government. They didn’t bother about Indian edition as they thought that none would read English version!

The important message here from Gandhi to the authors of the scholarly communication in particular -- which is a far better message than Paul Coelho, is: declare your papers at the pre-print level itself with the statement: “All rights unreserved” and post it in a public repository site like arXiv or chemrXiv or medrXiv or biorXiv. This may start a new “Sathyagraha” (civil disobedience) movement leading to free the scholarly journals from the pay-wall controlled subscription model for ever! Gandhi taught us to be truthful and not steal from others. Instead of giving a call to defend thieves and pirates like Alexandra Elbakyan, OA movement should pursue the leading scientists and researchers of India and the world to rigorously pursue the Gandhian model.

OA movement needs to be re-invented, two decades after its first-round of limited success so far, waking up the scholarly world only partially! We need a Gandhian of the scholarly world to emerge for this. Who could this be?

*Sathya*

N. V. Sathyanarayana

*| *Chairman & Managing Director *| *Informatics India Ltd.* | *Bangalore 560004 *|*INDIA *|*

*| **www.informaticsglobal.com* http://www.informaticsglobal.com *|*

*From: *LIS-Forum *Date: *Wednesday, 30 December 2020 at 11:08 PM *To: *lis-forum@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in *Subject: *[LIS-Forum] Pirates of the world, unite and pirate everything I’ve ever written! - Paulo Coelho

My thoughts on S.O.P.A.

Paulo Coelho

https://paulocoelhoblog.com/2012/01/20/welcome-to-pirate-my-books/

As an author, I should be defending ‘intellectual property’, but I’m not.

Pirates of the world, unite and pirate everything I’ve ever written!

The good old days, when each idea had an owner, are gone forever.

First, because all anyone ever does is recycle the same four themes: a love story between two people, a love triangle, the struggle for power, and the story of a journey.

Second, because all writers want what they write to be read, whether in a newspaper, blog, pamphlet, or on a wall.

The more often we hear a song on the radio, the keener we are to buy the CD. It’s the same with literature.

-- Madhan, M

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