Re: [LIS-Forum] NewGenLib Adaptation program
This is concerning Mr P K Uphadya's posting on the relative strengths and weaknesses of NewGenLib (NGL) and Koha in the open source space for library management systems. It would be nice if existing users of these software systems can post their experiences with their implementation of these software. This would help professionals in evaluating the software suitable for them..NGL's latest version 3.0.3 has many customizable features (in addition to what Mr Upadhyay has pointed out) including the use of VuFind as the OPAC front-end as well as enabling mobile enhancements. I would also like to add from my experience that NGL has many features specific to the practices followed in Indian academic and special libraries. This may also be a factor to consider and comment upon when comparing software. I hope people will exchange their experiences on these as well. Haravu On 10-11-2011 21:37, lis-forum-request@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in wrote:
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:41:34 +0530 From: Upadhyay P K<pku@nic.in> To: Shamprasad Pujar<pujar@igidr.ac.in>, lis-forum@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Fwd: Verus starts NewGenLib adaptation program Message-ID:<fc6d1cf6b047.4ebac95e@nic.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear friends,
It is very good posting in this forum on adoption of OSS and other softwares. There have been varying opinion. Last year I had posted various mails on pros and cons of OSS and Commercial softwares.
In relation to NewGenLib and KOHA, technically I would prefer NGL to KOHA. Few of the reasons are: Technology platform of NewGenLib has been PsotgreSQL backend, Apache server and JAVA at front end. These are the most preferred choices like .Net for development of softwares, although various technologies are being used for others including Open and proprietary. I do not understand why developers of KOHA application used/chose PERL langauage for front development and MySQL as back end. What will be long term implication, time will tell. Although KOHA has been customized for PostgreSQL and Windows lateron.
Another fascinating technology of NewGenlib is their search engine Solr and ZOTERO. For Bibliographic and Authority data searches NGL now uses Solr. Solr is the popular, blazing fast open source enterprise search platform from the Apache Lucene project. Even DSpace also uses Lucene and now it has customized for use of Solr. Again here, KOHA is using ZEBRA search engine not so popular like Lucene and Solr.
I find it easy to integrate DSpace and NewGenLib with portal using JSP and common connectors more of JAVA technology.
Both of softwares are licensed as GPL not BSD. Although I prefer BSD, DSpace is BSD licensed.
Both the software are now being supported in India by private firms, it is good. Again I would repeat that either Open Source, Free or commercial, total implementation of the information system/software that matters and it hardly makes any difference in cost.
Some of the research articles will help you to understand the efforts of library automation and digital library implementation. I liked one such paper by S R Birje on Library Automation case study in SRLELS Journal of Information Management, V48 (2), April 2011, p131-145. Although some of the cost and effort estimation could also have been incorporated in this paper like OPAC Hosting on Internet server, Database Hosting, Customization, Post implementation support, etc. for others to understand implementation.
Even Dr Goudar also comprehensively on his experience in migration from one application to other.
If any one like to discuss more on the issue, I would be happy to extend my inputs.
with kind regards
P K Upadhyay NIC, Delhi
On 10/04/11, Shamprasad Pujar<pujar@igidr.ac.in> wrote:
Dear Members,
I think it is a very good opportunity for libraries which have not yet undertaken complete automation. The members, who wish to participate in this programme at NO COST, may check details available in the forwarded message.
best Regards,
Dr S.M. Pujar Deputy Librarian IGIDR, Mumbai =======================================
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: NewGenLib - Verus Solutions<info@verussolutions.biz> Date: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:16 AM Subject: Verus starts NewGenLib adaptation program To: pujar@igidr.ac.in
Dear Patrons:
Verus Solutions has started "NewGenLib Adaptation Program". You may also recommend this program for other libraries.
What is "NewGenLib Adaptation Program"? ------------------------------------------------------------ This program is for libraries which are planning to automate their libraries in just 4 days. This is time-bound program. The duration of this program is 32 hours (4 - days). And it is very simple. There are schedules for this program. If you strictly follow the schedule you will fully automate your library in just 4 days. You will be visually observing your users' (and management) satisfaction and praise for library services.
What should you do to enroll to this program? --------------------------------------------------------------- Please visit http://www.verussolutions.biz/web/nglAdaptationProgram and enrol your library for the program. You may also share this link with libraries that are planning to implement library automation.
What happens after enrollment? -------------------------------------------- NewGenLib Open Source Team will do the following tasks for you
Step 1 - Installation: We will download and install the latest version of NewGenLib on your system. If you have any clients we will install NewGenLib clients.
Step 2 - Training: This is a 24 hour program (3 days). In this step we will train you on all the critical functionalities of library management.
Step 3 - Installing migrated data: We will be collecting you data to convert it into NewGenLib schema. The privacy of your library data will be strictly be maintained. NewGenLib Open Source Team will be accepting a Non-Disclosure Agreement from you to protect the privacy of your data. The process of collecting the data will happen at step 1 itself. So that at the end of the program the converted data is installed.
Step 4 - System maintenance and support: We will provide you with information on process to get instant help from us. Maintaining NewGenLib is very cost effective.
Is this program strictly based on schedule? ---------------------------------------------------------- The program is designed for 32 hours, that is 4 days x 8 hours per day. However you are at your liberty to allot time for this program.
What are the costs involved in taking up this program? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Verus Solutions does not charge any thing for this program. This is absolutely a free program. All you need is a decent Internet connection as all the tasks are executed on-line.
For any queries you may send us an email to info@verussolutions.biz
Wishing you a happy library management
Warm regards NewGenLib Open Source Team Verus Solutions
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Dear Sir, I am happy to use NewGenLib in our library. It is much better software compared to Koha. Still I have to explore more on NewGenLib and I will do it soon. One of the limitation I see is that there is no option to import records by batch process. If want to migrate MARC records one software to another, there should be an option to import records. This facility is available in Koha, JISIS, ABCD etc. I hope this will be rectify soon. Thanks Prakash Roja Muthiah Research Library, Chennai On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Jai Haravu <haravu@newgenlib.com> wrote:
This is concerning Mr P K Uphadya's posting on the relative strengths and weaknesses of NewGenLib (NGL) and Koha in the open source space for library management systems. It would be nice if existing users of these software systems can post their experiences with their implementation of these software. This would help professionals in evaluating the software suitable for them..NGL's latest version 3.0.3 has many customizable features (in addition to what Mr Upadhyay has pointed out) including the use of VuFind as the OPAC front-end as well as enabling mobile enhancements.
I would also like to add from my experience that NGL has many features specific to the practices followed in Indian academic and special libraries. This may also be a factor to consider and comment upon when comparing software. I hope people will exchange their experiences on these as well.
Haravu
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Dear friends,
It is very good posting in this forum on adoption of OSS and other softwares. There have been varying opinion. Last year I had posted various mails on pros and cons of OSS and Commercial softwares.
In relation to NewGenLib and KOHA, technically I would prefer NGL to KOHA. Few of the reasons are: Technology platform of NewGenLib has been PsotgreSQL backend, Apache server and JAVA at front end. These are the most preferred choices like .Net for development of softwares, although various technologies are being used for others including Open and proprietary. I do not understand why developers of KOHA application used/chose PERL langauage for front development and MySQL as back end. What will be long term implication, time will tell. Although KOHA has been customized for PostgreSQL and Windows lateron.
Another fascinating technology of NewGenlib is their search engine Solr and ZOTERO. For Bibliographic and Authority data searches NGL now uses Solr. Solr is the popular, blazing fast open source enterprise search platform from the Apache Lucene project. Even DSpace also uses Lucene and now it has customized for use of Solr. Again here, KOHA is using ZEBRA search engine not so popular like Lucene and Solr.
I find it easy to integrate DSpace and NewGenLib with portal using JSP and common connectors more of JAVA technology.
Both of softwares are licensed as GPL not BSD. Although I prefer BSD, DSpace is BSD licensed.
Both the software are now being supported in India by private firms, it is good. Again I would repeat that either Open Source, Free or commercial, total implementation of the information system/software that matters and it hardly makes any difference in cost.
Some of the research articles will help you to understand the efforts of library automation and digital library implementation. I liked one such paper by S R Birje on Library Automation case study in SRLELS Journal of Information Management, V48 (2), April 2011, p131-145. Although some of the cost and effort estimation could also have been incorporated in this paper like OPAC Hosting on Internet server, Database Hosting, Customization, Post implementation support, etc. for others to understand implementation.
Even Dr Goudar also comprehensively on his experience in migration from one application to other.
If any one like to discuss more on the issue, I would be happy to extend my inputs.
with kind regards
P K Upadhyay NIC, Delhi
On 10/04/11, Shamprasad Pujar<pujar@igidr.ac.in> wrote:
Dear Members,
I think it is a very good opportunity for libraries which have not yet undertaken complete automation. The members, who wish to participate in this programme at NO COST, may check details available in the forwarded message.
best Regards,
Dr S.M. Pujar Deputy Librarian IGIDR, Mumbai ==============================**=========
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: NewGenLib - Verus Solutions<info@verussolutions.**biz<info@verussolutions.biz>
Date: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:16 AM Subject: Verus starts NewGenLib adaptation program To: pujar@igidr.ac.in
Dear Patrons:
Verus Solutions has started "NewGenLib Adaptation Program". You may also recommend this program for other libraries.
What is "NewGenLib Adaptation Program"? ------------------------------**------------------------------ This program is for libraries which are planning to automate their libraries in just 4 days. This is time-bound program. The duration of this program is 32 hours (4 - days). And it is very simple. There are schedules for this program. If you strictly follow the schedule you will fully automate your library in just 4 days. You will be visually observing your users' (and management) satisfaction and praise for library services.
What should you do to enroll to this program? ------------------------------**------------------------------**--- Please visit http://www.verussolutions.biz/**web/nglAdaptationProgram<http://www.verussolutions.biz/web/nglAdaptationProgram>and enrol your library for the program. You may also share this link with libraries that are planning to implement library automation.
What happens after enrollment? ------------------------------**-------------- NewGenLib Open Source Team will do the following tasks for you
Step 1 - Installation: We will download and install the latest version of NewGenLib on your system. If you have any clients we will install NewGenLib clients.
Step 2 - Training: This is a 24 hour program (3 days). In this step we will train you on all the critical functionalities of library management.
Step 3 - Installing migrated data: We will be collecting you data to convert it into NewGenLib schema. The privacy of your library data will be strictly be maintained. NewGenLib Open Source Team will be accepting a Non-Disclosure Agreement from you to protect the privacy of your data. The process of collecting the data will happen at step 1 itself. So that at the end of the program the converted data is installed.
Step 4 - System maintenance and support: We will provide you with information on process to get instant help from us. Maintaining NewGenLib is very cost effective.
Is this program strictly based on schedule? ------------------------------**---------------------------- The program is designed for 32 hours, that is 4 days x 8 hours per day. However you are at your liberty to allot time for this program.
What are the costs involved in taking up this program? ------------------------------**------------------------------** -------------- Verus Solutions does not charge any thing for this program. This is absolutely a free program. All you need is a decent Internet connection as all the tasks are executed on-line.
For any queries you may send us an email to info@verussolutions.biz
Wishing you a happy library management
Warm regards NewGenLib Open Source Team Verus Solutions
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