
Dear professionals, Could anybody suggest the useful life of library books to calculate the depreciation in Accounting purpose? Our accounts department is asking approximate years of using of print books for depreciation calculation. kindly suggest your view in this regard. Thanking you Yours faithfully, -- *NIHAD FAISAL +965 65949240, 5590280* *The information contained in this e-mail and any files transmitted with it are likely to be confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) named above only. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. You may forward this e-mail and / or attachments to a third party on a strict "need to know" basis.* -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

I believe it is the job of the accountant to calculate the depreciation
based on existing norms (such as GAAP). Some government bodies (like GASB
in USA) do prescribe depreciation norms for different asset classes
including books. Sometimes there could be a rule of thumb ('others'
category) which will have a fixed rate (say 10% for 10 years).
In simplistic terms, depreciation is basically a concept from business
world to keep account of capital expenditure ('capex') on buying assets
(plants, machines, etc.). The capex is then distributed to the number of
years (approximate useful life) the asset will be in use. The capex is then
divided by the number of years (this is just one of the methods of
calculating depreciation), which then gets deducted from operating income
each year (till the useful life expires) for the purpose of net profit/loss
calculation.
For a librarian, the useful life of books will vary based on audience,
genre, etc. For example, college text-books may have shorter shelf-life
than literary classics. Secondly, training-related publications may have
even shorter shelf-life and thus may come under regular expenses, not
assets.
Ask the accountant to look for official guidelines available in India for
such cases. In absence of such guidelines, there is no harm in using a
guideline from another country I guess. For accounting is an exercise in
approximate values in many cases, especially in intangible values like in
case of books.
Best regards,
Saiful Amin
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Skype: saiful.amin
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Yours faithfully,
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In the first place - library books and journals do not come under goods as per the general financial rules, forget about depreciation. Books are invaluable asset of libraries. Asigning phsical or monetary value is meaningless.If books are damaged, they are removed and written off from the holdings and the original cost is deducted from the assets.
Dr Koteswara raoFormer librarian, UoH
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9) (i) Books owned by assessees carrying on a profession (a) Books, being annual publications 100 (b) Books, other than those covered by entry (a) above 60 (ii) Books owned by assessees carrying on business in 100 running lending libraries Visit: http://www.incometaxindia.gov.in/charts%20%20tables/depreciation%20rates.htm -- Arup Raychaudhury Library Indian Statistical Institute 203 BT Road Kolkata 700108. INDIA Phone: 91-33-2575-2106 Fax: 91-33-2578-1412
In the first place - library books and journals do not come under goods as per the general financial rules, forget about depreciation. Books are invaluable asset of libraries. Asigning phsical or monetary value is meaningless.If books are damaged, they are removed and written off from the holdings and the original cost is deducted from the assets. Dr Koteswara raoFormer librarian, UoH
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Yours faithfully,
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Dear all, The depreciation rates for personal books for income tax purpose are not applicable to libraries. Where is the question of Income tax here? Readers should read the posting before replying. Dr. M. Koteswara Rao
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:19:32 +0530 From: arup@isical.ac.in To: mk-rao@hotmail.com CC: nihadmk@gmail.com; ilosc@googlegroups.com; lis-forum@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in; digilib_india@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Depreciation of Library Books
9) (i) Books owned by assessees carrying on a profession— (a) Books, being annual publications 100 (b) Books, other than those covered by entry (a) above 60 (ii) Books owned by assessees carrying on business in 100 running lending libraries Visit: http://www.incometaxindia.gov.in/charts%20%20tables/depreciation%20rates.htm -- Arup Raychaudhury Library Indian Statistical Institute 203 BT Road Kolkata 700108. INDIA Phone: 91-33-2575-2106 Fax: 91-33-2578-1412
In the first place - library books and journals do not come under goods as per the general financial rules, forget about depreciation. Books are invaluable asset of libraries. Asigning phsical or monetary value is meaningless.If books are damaged, they are removed and written off from the holdings and the original cost is deducted from the assets. Dr Koteswara raoFormer librarian, UoH
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Thanking you
Yours faithfully,
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I think the depreciation rates mentioned in Income Tax rules are applicable
only for people/organizations that are liable to file income tax returns
(e.g. running a professional consultancy or book-lending business). It may
not be applicable to academic libraries for example.
I just found that there is a circular from Ministry of Corporate Affairs on
depreciation, which is applicable to companies registered under Companies
Act:
http://www.mca.gov.in/Ministry/notification/pdf/AS_6.pdf
According the the above [see 1.(iii)], depreciation does not apply to:
- expenditure on research and development
If my interpretation is correct, book purchases in corporate libraries can
be treated as R&D expense and thus not considered depreciable asset.
Perhaps this can be applied to academic and public libraries as well if
there are no other guidelines.
Best regards,
Saiful Amin
+91-9343826438
Skype: saiful.amin
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Arup Raychaudhury
9) (i) Books owned by assessees carrying on a profession— (a) Books, being annual publications 100 (b) Books, other than those covered by entry (a) above 60 (ii) Books owned by assessees carrying on business in 100 running lending libraries Visit:
http://www.incometaxindia.gov.in/charts%20%20tables/depreciation%20rates.htm -- Arup Raychaudhury Library Indian Statistical Institute 203 BT Road Kolkata 700108. INDIA Phone: 91-33-2575-2106 Fax: 91-33-2578-1412
In the first place - library books and journals do not come under goods as per the general financial rules, forget about depreciation. Books are invaluable asset of libraries. Asigning phsical or monetary value is meaningless.If books are damaged, they are removed and written off from the holdings and the original cost is deducted from the assets. Dr Koteswara raoFormer librarian, UoH
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Could anybody suggest the useful life of library books to calculate the depreciation in Accounting purpose? Our accounts department is asking approximate years of using of print books for depreciation calculation. kindly suggest your view in this regard.
Thanking you
Yours faithfully,
--
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Arup RoyChodhury's findings on depreciation of books refer to individual IT
assesses who carry on a profession.
As Prof Koteswara Rao had put it clearly Books are neither considered goods
nor services in either GFR or state transparency acts.
They are educational materials and can be weeded out based on a policy of
weeding
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Arup Raychaudhury
9) (i) Books owned by assessees carrying on a profession— (a) Books, being annual publications 100 (b) Books, other than those covered by entry (a) above 60 (ii) Books owned by assessees carrying on business in 100 running lending libraries Visit:
http://www.incometaxindia.gov.in/charts%20%20tables/depreciation%20rates.htm -- Arup Raychaudhury Library Indian Statistical Institute 203 BT Road Kolkata 700108. INDIA Phone: 91-33-2575-2106 Fax: 91-33-2578-1412
In the first place - library books and journals do not come under goods as per the general financial rules, forget about depreciation. Books are invaluable asset of libraries. Asigning phsical or monetary value is meaningless.If books are damaged, they are removed and written off from the holdings and the original cost is deducted from the assets. Dr Koteswara raoFormer librarian, UoH
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Thanking you
Yours faithfully,
--
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Dear Professionals,
Rule 136 of GFR 2005 mandate that library materials (books, periodicals,
etc.) are excluded from the definition of Goods and therefore depreciation
clause should not be applicable for reading materials. However, at the same
time there are provisions exist in libraries for weeding out of books and
journals. Large organisations like DRDO has its own policy and may be made
available, if required. This policy is approved by the Dept of Expenditure,
Ministry of Finance, GOI, in 1999.
Regards
*Dr Anil K Tyagi*
Scientist 'G'
ISSA, DRDO
Delhi-110054
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Arup RoyChodhury's findings on depreciation of books refer to individual IT assesses who carry on a profession.
As Prof Koteswara Rao had put it clearly Books are neither considered goods nor services in either GFR or state transparency acts.
They are educational materials and can be weeded out based on a policy of weeding
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Arup Raychaudhury
wrote: 9) (i) Books owned by assessees carrying on a profession— (a) Books, being annual publications 100 (b) Books, other than those covered by entry (a) above 60 (ii) Books owned by assessees carrying on business in 100 running lending libraries Visit:
-- Arup Raychaudhury Library Indian Statistical Institute 203 BT Road Kolkata 700108. INDIA Phone: 91-33-2575-2106 Fax: 91-33-2578-1412
In the first place - library books and journals do not come under goods as per the general financial rules, forget about depreciation. Books are invaluable asset of libraries. Asigning phsical or monetary value is meaningless.If books are damaged, they are removed and written off from the holdings and the original cost is deducted from the assets. Dr Koteswara raoFormer librarian, UoH
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Thanking you
Yours faithfully,
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Dear Sir,
Is it possible to share with library community the policy adopted and
approved, If so kindly share with all please or let us know how can we get
it.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Anil K Tyagi
Dear Professionals,
Rule 136 of GFR 2005 mandate that library materials (books, periodicals, etc.) are excluded from the definition of Goods and therefore depreciation clause should not be applicable for reading materials. However, at the same time there are provisions exist in libraries for weeding out of books and journals. Large organisations like DRDO has its own policy and may be made available, if required. This policy is approved by the Dept of Expenditure, Ministry of Finance, GOI, in 1999.
Regards
*Dr Anil K Tyagi* Scientist 'G' ISSA, DRDO Delhi-110054
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wrote: Arup RoyChodhury's findings on depreciation of books refer to individual IT assesses who carry on a profession.
As Prof Koteswara Rao had put it clearly Books are neither considered goods nor services in either GFR or state transparency acts.
They are educational materials and can be weeded out based on a policy of weeding
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Arup Raychaudhury
wrote: 9) (i) Books owned by assessees carrying on a profession— (a) Books, being annual publications 100 (b) Books, other than those covered by entry (a) above 60 (ii) Books owned by assessees carrying on business in 100 running lending libraries Visit:
-- Arup Raychaudhury Library Indian Statistical Institute 203 BT Road Kolkata 700108. INDIA Phone: 91-33-2575-2106 Fax: 91-33-2578-1412
In the first place - library books and journals do not come under goods as per the general financial rules, forget about depreciation. Books are invaluable asset of libraries. Asigning phsical or monetary value is meaningless.If books are damaged, they are removed and written off from the holdings and the original cost is deducted from the assets. Dr Koteswara raoFormer librarian, UoH
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wrote: Dear professionals,
Could anybody suggest the useful life of library books to calculate
depreciation in Accounting purpose? Our accounts department is asking approximate years of using of print books for depreciation calculation. kindly suggest your view in this regard.
Thanking you
Yours faithfully,
--
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Dear colleagues
Although it is a restricted document yet I will talk to my authorities if
it can be uploaded on forum. You will hear something +ve soon.
One more thing this type of work should have been done by our associations
which have become the place of projecting people who have almost no
contributions in profession.
Now a days I have seen professionals are using forum to get articles from
others which is gross violation of copyright and not ethical. These
professional perhaps do not know or understand ILL.
Regards
Dr Anil K Tyagi
Scientist 'G'
DESIDOC, DRDO
Delhi-110054
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On 04-Aug-2015 14:51, "vinod mishra"
Dear Sir,
Is it possible to share with library community the policy adopted and approved, If so kindly share with all please or let us know how can we get it.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Anil K Tyagi
wrote: Dear Professionals,
Rule 136 of GFR 2005 mandate that library materials (books, periodicals, etc.) are excluded from the definition of Goods and therefore depreciation clause should not be applicable for reading materials. However, at the same time there are provisions exist in libraries for weeding out of books and journals. Large organisations like DRDO has its own policy and may be made available, if required. This policy is approved by the Dept of Expenditure, Ministry of Finance, GOI, in 1999.
Regards
*Dr Anil K Tyagi* Scientist 'G' ISSA, DRDO Delhi-110054
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yagiakdr@gmail.com *and destroy this message. Please be aware that email communication can be intercepted in transmission or misdirected. Your use of email to communicate any information contained in this email indicates that you acknowledge and accept the possible risks associated with such communication. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are solely for the use of the individual to which it is addressed. Distribution, copying or any use by any other person is strictly prohibited. On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Prahalad G Tadasad
wrote: Arup RoyChodhury's findings on depreciation of books refer to individual IT assesses who carry on a profession.
As Prof Koteswara Rao had put it clearly Books are neither considered goods nor services in either GFR or state transparency acts.
They are educational materials and can be weeded out based on a policy of weeding
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Arup Raychaudhury
wrote: 9) (i) Books owned by assessees carrying on a profession— (a) Books, being annual publications 100 (b) Books, other than those covered by entry (a) above 60 (ii) Books owned by assessees carrying on business in 100 running lending libraries Visit:
-- Arup Raychaudhury Library Indian Statistical Institute 203 BT Road Kolkata 700108. INDIA Phone: 91-33-2575-2106 Fax: 91-33-2578-1412
In the first place - library books and journals do not come under goods as per the general financial rules, forget about depreciation. Books are invaluable asset of libraries. Asigning phsical or monetary value is meaningless.If books are damaged, they are removed and written off from the holdings and the original cost is deducted from the assets. Dr Koteswara raoFormer librarian, UoH
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wrote: Dear professionals,
Could anybody suggest the useful life of library books to calculate
depreciation in Accounting purpose? Our accounts department is asking approximate years of using of print books for depreciation calculation. kindly suggest your view in this regard.
Thanking you
Yours faithfully,
--
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participants (8)
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Anil K Tyagi
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Arup Raychaudhury
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Dr. Saiful Amin
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Koteswara Rao Mamidi
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mk-rao@hotmail.com
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NIHAD FAISAL
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Prahalad G Tadasad
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vinod mishra