Dear All I guess open access means access without any credentials and a boundary wall. Recently INFLIBNET got approval from ME to archive the thesis of CFTIs on Sodhganga. Let's see how many rich libraries/CFTIs follow the same. With Regards, Vinod Kumar Mishra, Assistant Librarian, Biju Patnaik Central Library (BPCL), NIT Rourkela, Sundergadh-769008, Odisha, India. Mob:91+9439420860 URL: http://vinod.itshelp.co.in/ ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-4666-7874 Scopus ID: 57223138343 *"Spiritual relationship is far more precious than physical. Physical relationship divorced from spiritual is body without soul" -- Mahatma Gandhi* On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 4:36 PM Subbiah Arunachalam < subbiah.arunachalam@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 9:56 PM Francis Jayakanth wrote:

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To date, about 55,500 Indian Institute of Science (IISc) articles have been uploaded to the IISc's institutional repository, ePrints@IISc ( eprints.iisc.ac.in).

IISc has roughly 62K items in the Scopus database, which spans the years 1908 to 2022. So, the ePrints@IISc repository has a bit more than 90% coverage of IISc publications. In terms of full-text inclusion in the repository, it's somewhere between 80 and 85 percent.

Thanks very much Francis for making this information public. [I wish other IR managers in India make available such information about their repositories.] I have often heard that the IISc repository has only metadata (or bibliographic details) and NOT full texts. Also, I have heard people say that it is NOT a genuine OA repository as the content there is not 'author self-archived' but drawn from a database. Does that really matter as long as I as a user can access the full papers? What is your take on 'not being a genuine OA repository'? As for me, as long as a repository provides the full texts of papers, users need not worry about how they came into the repository in the first place. Yes, it would be ideal if authors self-archive. Unfortunately, even more than two decades after Harnad's call to researchers of the world to self-archive, if many scientists in India (and also elsewhere) do not bother to self-archive in institutional repositories, then an intermediary (say a librarian) has to do the archiving. Such librarians should be recognized and that is what we at the Electronic Publishing Trust for Development did in your case several years ago.

Arun http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4398-4658

Great work Dr Francis! It is unfortunate that self-archiving is almost non-existent. I believe that librarians need to train users to do that, only because most users are not even aware of the possibility. This leads me to what Dr Arun says: Such librarians should be recognized and that is what we at the Electronic Publishing Trust for Development did ......... While I have not *worked* *in a library* for years, I believe I am not wrong when I say: - Librarians need to do lots of training - They need to be recognized for efforts like the IISc archives. While the institutions might internally recognize them, the awareness of such activities needs much wider circulation, so that other institutions involve their libraries in a similar fashion. I do not see much of this. What can we do to increase these aspects? Vasumathi Sriganesh QMed Knowledge Foundation A-3, Shubham Center, Cardinal Gracious Road Chakala, Andheri East, Mumbai 400099, India Tel: 91-22-40054474 Mob: +919867292230 Email: vasu@qmed.ngo Web:www.qmed.ngo ; www.qmedcourses.in MMC Speaker Code - MMC/MASS/00030/2016 Member: Academy of Health Professions Educators On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:40 AM Francis Jayakanth wrote:

Sir, As I previously stated, approximately 90% of IISc papers have been uploaded to the repository, with nearly 80% of those containing full texts. The library does most of the uploading. Self-archiving is almost non-existent.

A Request a copy button is displayed next to any full text file that is not publically available. Those who are interested can get a copy of the paper using that button. Almost every day, the library receives many similar requests.

With regards, Francis ________________________________ From: Subbiah Arunachalam Sent: 23 May 2022 23:46 To: LIS-Forum Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] OA repositories in India

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On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 9:56 PM Francis Jayakanth mailto:francis@iisc.ac.in> wrote: To date, about 55,500 Indian Institute of Science (IISc) articles have been uploaded to the IISc's institutional repository, ePrints@IISc ( eprints.iisc.ac.inhttp://eprints.iisc.ac.in).

IISc has roughly 62K items in the Scopus database, which spans the years 1908 to 2022. So, the ePrints@IISc repository has a bit more than 90% coverage of IISc publications. In terms of full-text inclusion in the repository, it's somewhere between 80 and 85 percent.

Thanks very much Francis for making this information public. [I wish other IR managers in India make available such information about their repositories.] I have often heard that the IISc repository has only metadata (or bibliographic details) and NOT full texts. Also, I have heard people say that it is NOT a genuine OA repository as the content there is not 'author self-archived' but drawn from a database. Does that really matter as long as I as a user can access the full papers? What is your take on 'not being a genuine OA repository'? As for me, as long as a repository provides the full texts of papers, users need not worry about how they came into the repository in the first place. Yes, it would be ideal if authors self-archive. Unfortunately, even more than two decades after Harnad's call to researchers of the world to self-archive, if many scientists in India (and also elsewhere) do not bother to self-archive in institutional repositories, then an intermediary (say a librarian) has to do the archiving. Such librarians should be recognized and that is what we at the Electronic Publishing Trust for Development did in your case several years ago.

Arun http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4398-4658

If I may share a perspective from a university campus in California about the following comment: It is unfortunate that self-archiving is almost non-existent.

You mean, in India. Is it a commentary on Indian researchers? We face the same situation with our faculty members. In order to promote our IR, each librarian works with the faculty members of their assigned (liaison) department and pushes them to upload their pre-prints to the IR. If faculty members have questions or concerns that their articles would not be accepted by journals because of the existing publicly available pre-prints, librarians do the desk research about the prospective journals/publishers and verify if the fear is valid. Librarians also do the research to check if publishers will be comfortable with faculty members uploading their post-prints to the IR. Very often, librarians connect the faculty members with the IR team who do the work - create profile, upload articles, share download stats - for the faculty members. Librarians with faculty status upload their work to the IR as well and showcase the citation or download stats in their tenure dossiers. Thank you, Mantra Mantra Roy, Ph.D, MLIS Collection Strategy Librarian Phone: 408-808-2039 Office: 4049 (4th Floor) Board of Directors, FORCE11 International Advisory Committee, SALIS (India) Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Library San Jose State University San Jose, CA 95192-0028 On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 9:58 PM Subbiah Arunachalam < subbiah.arunachalam@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:56 PM Vasumathi Sriganesh wrote:

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Great work Dr Francis!

It is unfortunate that self-archiving is almost non-existent.

You mean, in India. Is it a commentary on Indian researchers?

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I believe that librarians need to train users to do that, only because most users are not even aware of the possibility.

Academics cannot cite lack of awareness as a reason for inaction. With a little effort one can learn how to self-archive. Hundreds of INDIAN physicists and computational biologists have been depositing their preprints in arXiv for years. Most of them picked up Linux, Tex, LaTex and other software necessary for their work on their own.

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This leads me to what Dr Arun says:

Such librarians should be recognized and that is what we at the

Electronic

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Publishing Trust for Development did

Dr Jayakanth and colleagues at IISc are doing what they have been doing simply because those who publish the papers have not been forthcoming to self-archive. At ICRISAT, Hyderabad, Dr Balaji planned and piloted the IR very well and it later became the model for ALL other ICGAR institutes. Balaji was not an M Lib Sci, but an IITK alumnus who chose to work at two NGOs before he came to manage knowledge resources at ICRISAT. He invited two OA champions to sensitize the scientists through a half-day workshop, and later arranged for a long dinner meeting for the Deputy Director General with one of the world's leading OA experts, Dr Alma Swan, the author of the 2012 Unesco OA Policy Guidelines ( unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0021/002158/215863e.pdf). http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0021/002158/215863e.pdf who had come to speak at a session on OA I had put together at the annual meeting of the Indian Science Congress Association. Dr Murari Tapaswi set up the IR at CSIR-NIO, Goa. CMFRI has a well-run repository, set up by Mr Edwin Joseph, with help from Muthu Madhan, who was also recognized by the EPT. Please see https://epublishingtrust.blogspot.com/.

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While I have not *worked* *in a library* for years, I believe I am not wrong when I say:

- Librarians need to do lots of training - They need to be recognized for efforts like the IISc archives.

As for training programmes, as early as 2004 MSSRF organized two

back-to-back three-day workshops by Dr Leslie Carr and Prof. Leslie Chan, and later on many have been conducted by Prof. ARD Prasad of DRTC, Francis Jayakanth, Muthu Madhan, MG Sreekumar and others.

While the institutions might internally recognize them, the awareness of

...

such activities needs much wider circulation, so that other institutions involve their libraries in a similar fashion. I do not see much of this. What can we do to increase these aspects?

I am surprised to hear this comment on lack of awareness. Among Indian LIS professionals, the two favourite topics are open access and scientometrics (as is evident from the large number of journal articles and mentions in CVs).

Arun

...

Vasumathi Sriganesh QMed Knowledge Foundation A-3, Shubham Center, Cardinal Gracious Road Chakala, Andheri East, Mumbai 400099, India Tel: 91-22-40054474 Mob: +919867292230 Email: vasu@qmed.ngo Web:www.qmed.ngo ; www.qmedcourses.in MMC Speaker Code - MMC/MASS/00030/2016 Member: Academy of Health Professions Educators

On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:40 AM Francis Jayakanth wrote:

...

Sir, As I previously stated, approximately 90% of IISc papers have been uploaded to the repository, with nearly 80% of those containing full texts. The library does most of the uploading. Self-archiving is almost non-existent.

A Request a copy button is displayed next to any full text file that is not publically available. Those who are interested can get a copy of the paper using that button. Almost every day, the library receives many similar requests.

With regards, Francis ________________________________ From: Subbiah Arunachalam Sent: 23 May 2022 23:46 To: LIS-Forum Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] OA repositories in India

External Email

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 9:56 PM Francis Jayakanth mailto:francis@iisc.ac.in> wrote: To date, about 55,500 Indian Institute of Science (IISc) articles have been uploaded to the IISc's institutional repository, ePrints@IISc ( eprints.iisc.ac.inhttp://eprints.iisc.ac.in).

IISc has roughly 62K items in the Scopus database, which spans the years 1908 to 2022. So, the ePrints@IISc repository has a bit more than 90% coverage of IISc publications. In terms of full-text inclusion in the repository, it's somewhere between 80 and 85 percent.

Thanks very much Francis for making this information public. [I wish other IR managers in India make available such information about their repositories.] I have often heard that the IISc repository has only metadata (or bibliographic details) and NOT full texts. Also, I have heard people say that it is NOT a genuine OA repository as the content there is not 'author self-archived' but drawn from a database. Does that really matter as long as I as a user can access the full papers? What is your take on 'not being a genuine OA repository'? As for me, as long as a repository provides the full texts of papers, users need not worry about how they came into the repository in the first place. Yes, it would be ideal if authors self-archive. Unfortunately, even more than two decades after Harnad's call to researchers of the world to self-archive, if many scientists in India (and also elsewhere) do not bother to self-archive in institutional repositories, then an intermediary (say a librarian) has to do the archiving. Such librarians should be recognized and that is what we at the Electronic Publishing Trust for Development did in your case several years ago.

Arun http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4398-4658

About the Indian medical research community in India. Some of the most well informed Indian researchers are medical researchers. Added to that they also write and communicate very well (in English). To name a few I have known personally, Valiathan, Sunil Pandya, Samiran Nundy, Sanjay Pai, Peush Sahni, ... Some of the better run Indian S&T journals are medical journals (e.g. NMJI, IJME in both of which I have published and am grateful to the editors and referees who improved my script and also the content, and the many journals my friend D K Sahu published under the MedKnow banner). The community is open to welcoming ideas from others. At a meeting of the IMA Southern India chapter(?) held many years ago (at Hotel Savera in Chennai), they had a 3hr session of talks by non-medicos such as M S Swaminathan, public cause lawyer Sriram Panchu and, despite the lowly status, yours truly. Recently, as part of a campaign to promote preprinits as the new normal in scholarly communication, I had a discussion with a few medical researchers and editors and I enjoyed every moment of it. Of course, I have not been able to convince them yet, but the exchange was pleasant throughout and it was a learning experience for me. The doctors I spoke to are well informed about developments in OA. In the past two years, thanks to the pandemic, OA uptake among biomedical researchers picked up at a pretty fast pace around the world so much so even the commercial publishers made Covid-related papers OA. Awareness is not the problem. Callousness of authors who perform research with taxpayers ' support but give away all the rights to publishers and the HEIs and RPIs which permit such things to happen are. Also the Govt agencies who fund such research but not insist/mandate OA for all publications resulting from their support are. In your training programmes, you may, if you are convinced, introduce a short presentation on why it is unethical and immoral to publish publicly funded research in paywalled journals. Tell them a company called Elsevier is SELLING unedited manuscripts to whoever wants to buy them. There is an ongoing discussion in Twitter. The author could have made it freely accessible to all by placing it in a repository! Best wishes. Subbiah Arunachalam On Sun, 5 Jun 2022, 18:55 Vasumathi Sriganesh, wrote:

Dear Dr Arun and other professional colleagues:

I meant to respond to Dr Arun's comments earlier, but somehow missed doing so. Better late than never!

First - I am delighted to hear about several initiatives that Dr Arun wrote about. Kudos to all of them

Then the comment:

I am surprised to hear this comment on lack of awareness. Among Indian LIS professionals, the two favourite topics are open access and scientometrics (as is evident from the large number of journal articles and mentions in CVs).

Dr Arun - what I meant about lack of awareness and training - is based on my communications with the medical professionals by and large. Could be pretty biased, but I am saying this after plenty of interactions. I completely agree that the Science communities and several others are obviously different - specially after all your mentions

But in the medical community, I am afraid that it is not the same. We have lots more to do - to promote self archiving Vasumathi Sriganesh QMed Knowledge Foundation A-3, Shubham Center, Cardinal Gracious Road Chakala, Andheri East, Mumbai 400099, India Tel: 91-22-40054474 Mob: +919867292230 Email: vasu@qmed.ngo Web:www.qmed.ngo; www.qmedcourses.in MMC Speaker Code - MMC/MASS/00030/2016 Member: Academy of Health Professions Educators

On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 10:15 PM Subbiah Arunachalam < subbiah.arunachalam@gmail.com> wrote:

...

On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:56 PM Vasumathi Sriganesh wrote:

...

Great work Dr Francis!

It is unfortunate that self-archiving is almost non-existent.

You mean, in India. Is it a commentary on Indian researchers?

...

I believe that librarians need to train users to do that, only because most users are not even aware of the possibility.

Academics cannot cite lack of awareness as a reason for inaction. With a little effort one can learn how to self-archive. Hundreds of INDIAN physicists and computational biologists have been depositing their preprints in arXiv for years. Most of them picked up Linux, Tex, LaTex and other software necessary for their work on their own.

...

This leads me to what Dr Arun says:

Such librarians should be recognized and that is what we at the Electronic Publishing Trust for Development did

Dr Jayakanth and colleagues at IISc are doing what they have been doing simply because those who publish the papers have not been forthcoming to self-archive. At ICRISAT, Hyderabad, Dr Balaji planned and piloted the IR very well and it later became the model for ALL other ICGAR institutes. Balaji was not an M Lib Sci, but an IITK alumnus who chose to work at two NGOs before he came to manage knowledge resources at ICRISAT. He invited two OA champions to sensitize the scientists through a half-day workshop, and later arranged for a long dinner meeting for the Deputy Director General with one of the world's leading OA experts, Dr Alma Swan, the author of the 2012 Unesco OA Policy Guidelines ( unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0021/002158/215863e.pdf). http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0021/002158/215863e.pdf who had come to speak at a session on OA I had put together at the annual meeting of the Indian Science Congress Association. Dr Murari Tapaswi set up the IR at CSIR-NIO, Goa. CMFRI has a well-run repository, set up by Mr Edwin Joseph, with help from Muthu Madhan, who was also recognized by the EPT. Please see https://epublishingtrust.blogspot.com/.

...

While I have not *worked* *in a library* for years, I believe I am not wrong when I say:

- Librarians need to do lots of training - They need to be recognized for efforts like the IISc archives.

As for training programmes, as early as 2004 MSSRF organized two

back-to-back three-day workshops by Dr Leslie Carr and Prof. Leslie Chan, and later on many have been conducted by Prof. ARD Prasad of DRTC, Francis Jayakanth, Muthu Madhan, MG Sreekumar and others.

While the institutions might internally recognize them, the awareness of

...

such activities needs much wider circulation, so that other institutions involve their libraries in a similar fashion. I do not see much of this. What can we do to increase these aspects?

I am surprised to hear this comment on lack of awareness. Among Indian LIS professionals, the two favourite topics are open access and scientometrics (as is evident from the large number of journal articles and mentions in CVs).

Arun

...

Vasumathi Sriganesh QMed Knowledge Foundation A-3, Shubham Center, Cardinal Gracious Road Chakala, Andheri East, Mumbai 400099, India Tel: 91-22-40054474 Mob: +919867292230 Email: vasu@qmed.ngo Web:www.qmed.ngo ; www.qmedcourses.in MMC Speaker Code - MMC/MASS/00030/2016 Member: Academy of Health Professions Educators

On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:40 AM Francis Jayakanth wrote:

...

Sir, As I previously stated, approximately 90% of IISc papers have been uploaded to the repository, with nearly 80% of those containing full texts. The library does most of the uploading. Self-archiving is almost non-existent.

A Request a copy button is displayed next to any full text file that is not publically available. Those who are interested can get a copy of the paper using that button. Almost every day, the library receives many similar requests.

With regards, Francis ________________________________ From: Subbiah Arunachalam Sent: 23 May 2022 23:46 To: LIS-Forum Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] OA repositories in India

External Email

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 9:56 PM Francis Jayakanth mailto:francis@iisc.ac.in> wrote: To date, about 55,500 Indian Institute of Science (IISc) articles have been uploaded to the IISc's institutional repository, ePrints@IISc ( eprints.iisc.ac.inhttp://eprints.iisc.ac.in).

IISc has roughly 62K items in the Scopus database, which spans the years 1908 to 2022. So, the ePrints@IISc repository has a bit more than 90% coverage of IISc publications. In terms of full-text inclusion in the repository, it's somewhere between 80 and 85 percent.

Thanks very much Francis for making this information public. [I wish other IR managers in India make available such information about their repositories.] I have often heard that the IISc repository has only metadata (or bibliographic details) and NOT full texts. Also, I have heard people say that it is NOT a genuine OA repository as the content there is not 'author self-archived' but drawn from a database. Does that really matter as long as I as a user can access the full papers? What is your take on 'not being a genuine OA repository'? As for me, as long as a repository provides the full texts of papers, users need not worry about how they came into the repository in the first place. Yes, it would be ideal if authors self-archive. Unfortunately, even more than two decades after Harnad's call to researchers of the world to self-archive, if many scientists in India (and also elsewhere) do not bother to self-archive in institutional repositories, then an intermediary (say a librarian) has to do the archiving. Such librarians should be recognized and that is what we at the Electronic Publishing Trust for Development did in your case several years ago.

Arun http://orcid.org/0000-0002-4398-4658