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Casting away the NET The NET seems to be on its way out. But academics have their reservations about this development. It is now official. The University Grants Commission (UGC) has declared that the National Eligibility Test (NET) it conducts for identifying potential teachers in colleges and universities will no longer be an eligibility criterion for those with an M.Phil. and/or a doctoral degree. On May 16, the Commission chairman announced that the interim report of the Balchandra Mungekar Committee, which was set up by the Ministry of Human Resource Development in November 2005 to suggest ways to revamp the NET and to find out whether the NET was needed at all as an eligibility criterion to teach in institutions of higher learning, has been accepted in principle. Report recommendation The interim report recommends that those with an M.Phil. may be exempted from having to clear the NET for teaching in undergraduate courses and that those with a Ph.D. need not have a NET for teaching postgraduate courses. This announcement has caused dismay among many academicians in Kerala. Many teachers who spoke to The Hindu-Educationplus said they saw this announcement as the beginning of the end of the NET. While these academics are firm in their view that the NET as it exists today is pretty much useless, they are also equally firm in the belief that a national-level test of some sort in unavoidable if quality teachers are to be appointed in the nation's universities and colleges. Dissenting voices "This is wrong step," says K. Sasikumar, professor, Department of Commerce, University of Kerala. "It will open the floodgates of mediocrity as far as selecting good teachers is concerned. Now, in this university anyone with 55 per cent marks for the postgraduate examination can sign up for M.Phil. and everyone who registers for Ph.D. gets a doctoral degree. There is no such thing as turning down a thesis. There is no evaluation by a foreign expert." "Now, after this announcement, there is going to be a huge rush for M.Phil. courses," points out R. Mohankumar, general secretary of the All Kerala Private College Teachers' Association. He says the UGC has always been inconsistent in taking a stand, vis-à-vis exemptions from the NET. "In 1993, 1998, 2000 and in 2002, the UGC's position regarding who can be exempted from the NET kept on shifting. Is there a hidden agenda in this? There must be. Otherwise why these constant changes? If for some subjects, due to shortage of NET-qualified hands, some exemption needs to be given, fine. But a blanket exemption for all M.Phil. holders and Ph.D. holders? No that cannot be accepted. That is bad news for quality teaching," he says. Mr. Mohankumar adds that he is with those who argue that this move of the UGC is aimed at regularising the services of hundreds, if not thousands, of part-time/contract lecturers in colleges across the country who have not cleared the NET but have M.Phil. and are seeking to get a Ph.D. Flawed decision There are also those who feel that the Mungekar committee could have better employed its time and energy by trying to reform and broad-base the NET. Head of the Department of Law University of Kerala N. K. Jayakumar is among those who firmly believe that the very concept of linking M.Phil. and Ph.D. to the career of a teacher is flawed. "A good teacher need not be a good researcher and a good researcher need not know how to teach. We see that happening all the time. Sure you should have a test to see gauge the teaching skills of a person. The method adopted by the National Law School Bangalore is very good in this respect. Now, with this announcement by the UGC, there is going to be a spurt in the number of M.Phils. being offered by colleges. In no time there will also be M.Phil. in the distance education mode. Then all those people are going to try and become teachers. What will happen to these people if in the future the NET - in another form - becomes compulsory," Dr. Jayakumar asks. Broad-basing NET Former Vice-Chairman of the UGC V. N. Rajasekharan Pillai too says the need of the hour is to try and revamp the NET instead of seeking to do away with it. As a teacher he says he is strongly in favour of having a nation-wide eligibility test in some form. " The NET can be broad-based so as to assess teaching capability and aptitude," he told The Hindu-Education plus over phone from Kottayam.Right from the time the Mungekar Committee was set up, Dr. Pillai had argued that the best way ahead would be to have a NET that allows for trans-disciplinary eligibility; so that a candidate who clear the NET for English can also teach such subjects as communicative English, linguistics or journalism. Many in the academic community say they would not be surprised if the Mungekar Committee in its final report recommends that the NET be done away with. "All these things should be done after a nation-wide debate among academics and by a five-member committee," points out Mr. Mohankumar, "such decisions can affect the lives and future of thousands of students." G. MAHADEVAN Source: The Hindu, Education plus , kerala. --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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Report recommendation The interim report recommends that those with an M.Phil. may be exempted from having to clear the NET for teaching in undergraduate courses and that those with a Ph.D. need not have a NET for teaching postgraduate courses. This announcement has caused dismay among many academicians in Kerala. Many teachers who spoke to The Hindu-Educationplus said they saw this announcement as the beginning of the end of the NET. While these academics are firm in their view that the NET as it exists today is pretty much useless, they are also equally firm in the belief that a national-level test of some sort in unavoidable if quality teachers are to be appointed in the nation's universities and colleges. Dissenting voices "This is wrong step," says K. Sasikumar, professor, Department of Commerce, University of Kerala . "It will open the floodgates of mediocrity as far as selecting good teachers is concerned. Now, in this university anyone with 55 per cent marks for the postgraduate examination can sign up for M.Phil. and everyone who registers for Ph.D. gets a doctoral degree. There is no such thing as turning down a thesis. There is no evaluation by a foreign expert." "Now, after this announcement, there is going to be a huge rush for M.Phil. courses," points out R. Mohankumar, general secretary of the All Kerala Private College Teachers' Association. He says the UGC has always been inconsistent in taking a stand, vis-à-vis exemptions from the NET. "In 1993, 1998, 2000 and in 2002, the UGC's position regarding who can be exempted from the NET kept on shifting. Is there a hidden agenda in this? There must be. Otherwise why these constant changes? If for some subjects, due to shortage of NET-qualified hands, some exemption needs to be given, fine. But a blanket exemption for all M.Phil. holders and Ph.D. holders? No that cannot be accepted. That is bad news for quality teaching," he says. Mr. Mohankumar adds that he is with those who argue that this move of the UGC is aimed at regularising the services of hundreds, if not thousands, of part-time/contract lecturers in colleges across the country who have not cleared the NET but have M.Phil. and are seeking to get a Ph.D. Flawed decision There are also those who feel that the Mungekar committee could have better employed its time and energy by trying to reform and broad-base the NET. Head of the Department of Law University of Kerala N. K. Jayakumar is among those who firmly believe that the very concept of linking M.Phil. and Ph.D. to the career of a teacher is flawed. "A good teacher need not be a good researcher and a good researcher need not know how to teach. We see that happening all the time. Sure you should have a test to see gauge the teaching skills of a person. The method adopted by the National Law School Bangalore is very good in this respect. Now, with this announcement by the UGC, there is going to be a spurt in the number of M.Phils. being offered by colleges. In no time there will also be M.Phil. in the distance education mode. Then all those people are going to try and become teachers. What will happen to these people if in the future the NET - in another form - becomes compulsory," Dr. Jayakumar asks. Broad-basing NET Former Vice-Chairman of the UGC V. N. Rajasekharan Pillai too says the need of the hour is to try and revamp the NET instead of seeking to do away with it. As a teacher he says he is strongly in favour of having a nation-wide eligibility test in some form. " The NET can be broad-based so as to assess teaching capability and aptitude," he told The Hindu-Education plus over phone from Kottayam. Right from the time the Mungekar Committee was set up, Dr. Pillai had argued that the best way ahead would be to have a NET that allows for trans-disciplinary eligibility; so that a candidate who clear the NET for English can also teach such subjects as communicative English, linguistics or journalism. Many in the academic community say they would not be surprised if the Mungekar Committee in its final report recommends that the NET be done away with. "All these things should be done after a nation-wide debate among academics and by a five-member committee," points out Mr. Mohankumar, "such decisions can affect the lives and future of thousands of students." G. MAHADEVAN Source: The Hindu, Education plus , kerala. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/in/mailanswersshare/*http://in.answers.yahoo.com... Yahoo! India Answers Share what your know-how and wisdom Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! 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Dear Friends
the arguments of the academician friends does not have any logic
and they are not confident of their product at research degrees like M.Phil
or Ph.D.,
NET is a benefit of chance in answering one exam
If Universities are not sure of the generating good quality M.Phil and
quality Ph.D.,
then let them work out achieving good quality at that level not to leave
it to the benefit of chance in
one exam .
the argument to hang on to NET is a stupidity
and doubt on their own M.phil and Ph.D.,
there argument is like they are through and they don't want others to be
through
May be I am little harsh, conducting too many exam is not a solution and can
not create a research culture
or academic bent, making the students to work better in research degrees can
create better culture
With regards
Dr.H.S.Siddamalliah
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Dear Friends the arguments of the academician friends does not have any logic and they are not confident of their product at research degrees like M.Phil or Ph.D.,
NET is a benefit of chance in answering one exam If Universities are not sure of the generating good quality M.Phil and quality Ph.D., then let them work out achieving good quality at that level not to leave it to the benefit of chance in one exam . the argument to hang on to NET is a stupidity and doubt on their own M.phil and Ph.D., there argument is like they are through and they don't want others to be through
May be I am little harsh, conducting too many exam is not a solution and can not create a research culture or academic bent, making the students to work better in research degrees can create better culture With regards Dr.H.S.Siddamalliah
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To: "nmlis" ; "lis" ; "corporatelibrns Moderator" Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: [nmlis] Casting away the NET Casting away the NET
The NET seems to be on its way out. But academics have their
reservations about this development. It is now official. The University Grants Commission (UGC) has declared
that the National Eligibility Test (NET) it conducts for identifying
potential teachers in colleges and universities will no longer be an
eligibility criterion for those with an M.Phil. and/or a doctoral degree.
On May 16, the Commission chairman announced that the interim report of
the Balchandra Mungekar Committee, which was set up by the Ministry of
Human Resource Development in November 2005 to suggest ways to revamp
the NET and to find out whether the NET was needed at all as an
eligibility criterion to teach in institutions of higher learning, has been accepted in principle.
Report recommendation
The interim report recommends that those with an M.Phil. may be
exempted from having to clear the NET for teaching in undergraduate courses and that those with a Ph.D. need not have a NET for teaching postgraduate courses.
This announcement has caused dismay among many academicians in Kerala.
Many teachers who spoke to The Hindu-Educationplus said they saw this
announcement as the beginning of the end of the NET. While these
academics are firm in their view that the NET as it exists today is pretty much useless, they are also equally firm in the belief that a
national-level test of some sort in unavoidable if quality teachers are to be appointed in the nation's universities and colleges.
Dissenting voices
"This is wrong step," says K. Sasikumar, professor, Department of
Commerce, University of Kerala. "It will open the floodgates of mediocrity as far as selecting good teachers is concerned. Now, in this university anyone with 55 per cent marks for the postgraduate examination can sign up for M.Phil. and everyone who registers for Ph.D. gets a doctoral degree. There is no such thing as turning down a thesis. There is no evaluation by a foreign expert."
"Now, after this announcement, there is going to be a huge rush for
M.Phil. courses," points out R. Mohankumar, general secretary of the All Kerala Private College Teachers' Association. He says the UGC has always been inconsistent in taking a stand, vis-à-vis exemptions from the NET.
"In 1993, 1998, 2000 and in 2002, the UGC's position regarding who can
be exempted from the NET kept on shifting. Is there a hidden agenda in
this? There must be. Otherwise why these constant changes? If for some
subjects, due to shortage of NET-qualified hands, some exemption needs
to be given, fine. But a blanket exemption for all M.Phil. holders and
Ph.D. holders? No that cannot be accepted. That is bad news for quality
teaching," he says.
Mr. Mohankumar adds that he is with those who argue that this move of
the UGC is aimed at regularising the services of hundreds, if not
thousands, of part-time/contract lecturers in colleges across the country who have not cleared the NET but have M.Phil. and are seeking to get a Ph.D.
Flawed decision
There are also those who feel that the Mungekar committee could have
better employed its time and energy by trying to reform and broad-base
the NET. Head of the Department of Law University of Kerala N. K.
Jayakumar is among those who firmly believe that the very concept of
M.Phil. and Ph.D. to the career of a teacher is flawed.
"A good teacher need not be a good researcher and a good researcher
need not know how to teach. We see that happening all the time. Sure you should have a test to see gauge the teaching skills of a person. The method adopted by the National Law School Bangalore is very good in this respect. Now, with this announcement by the UGC, there is going to be a spurt in
In continuation to the debate on NET/SET/MPhil/Ph.D.
If, Librarians (not in teaching profession) are categorised under NON
TEACHING faculty by many colleges, why they should clear NET / SET exam that
is basically designed for teaching faculty ? Librarians attached to
academic institute libraries are not teaching in their practice. Is it only
to ensure UGC scale ? If it is so, how many fellow colleagues who cleared
NET exam are really getting UGC scale in private colleges ?
And also I believe for teaching professionals in library science (in
Universities) they should have one more Master's degree apart from MLISc and
NET clearance.
Is it the same case with other disciplines also ?
Why there is a double standard for Library Science professionals ?
Satish S Munnolli
Librarian
Advanced Centre for Treatment, Research & Education in Cancer (ACTREC)
Tata Memorial Centre
Sector 22, Kharghar,
Navi Mumbai 410 208
India
Ph : +91 22 2740 5026
Fax : +91 22 2740 5085
Email : smunnolli@actrec.res.in
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number of M.Phils. being offered by colleges. In no time there will also be M.Phil. in the distance education mode. Then all those people are going to try and become teachers. What will happen to these people if in the future the NET - in another form - becomes
compulsory," Dr. Jayakumar asks.
Broad-basing NET
Former Vice-Chairman of the UGC V. N. Rajasekharan Pillai too says the
need of the hour is to try and revamp the NET instead of seeking to do
away with it. As a teacher he says he is strongly in favour of having a
nation-wide eligibility test in some form. " The NET can be broad-based
so as to assess teaching capability and aptitude," he told The
Hindu-Education plus over phone from Kottayam.Right from the time the Mungekar Committee was set up, Dr. Pillai had
argued that the best way ahead would be to have a NET that allows for
trans-disciplinary eligibility; so that a candidate who clear the NET for English can also teach such subjects as communicative English,
linguistics or journalism.
Many in the academic community say they would not be surprised if the
Mungekar Committee in its final report recommends that the NET be done
away with. "All these things should be done after a nation-wide debate
among academics and by a five-member committee," points out Mr.
Mohankumar, "such decisions can affect the lives and future of thousands of students."
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Dear colleagues,
We are discussing the merits and demits on exemption of NET/Set for M.phil and Phd and not to harm any of our colleagues
As we all know, already librarians are considered lower compared to the teaching staff in all colleges and universities in India, generally speaking the total status of librarianship is very low and is in very bad condition
especially in private colleges it is very horrible and disgusting to see the condition of a librarian, where management extract lots and lots of work from them and pay poor salary, some times they are forced to do works other than library work also.
Only for last few years, these management people are slowly recognizing librarian as teaching staff and come forward to give more or less equal salary with respect to the teaching staff. I think this is only because of the NET/SET exams, people considered us equal to them
so it is not only the matter of getting UGC salary, its a matter of our professional status and reorganization in our educational system compared to other branches of study
these are personal experience of my colleagues having cleared net/set, even though Iam not cleared any of these exams, I feel it should be..
With regards
Raj
Satish Munnolli
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Respected professionals,
I completely agree with Dr.H.S.Siddmallaiah's
Logic on M.Phil & Ph.D., first-of-all-we respect our profession whether it
is NET/UGC.
On 5/24/06, Dr.H.S.Siddmallaiah
Dear Friends the arguments of the academician friends does not have any logic and they are not confident of their product at research degrees like M.Phil or Ph.D.,
NET is a benefit of chance in answering one exam If Universities are not sure of the generating good quality M.Phil and quality Ph.D., then let them work out achieving good quality at that level not to leave it to the benefit of chance in one exam . the argument to hang on to NET is a stupidity and doubt on their own M.phil and Ph.D., there argument is like they are through and they don't want others to be through
May be I am little harsh, conducting too many exam is not a solution and can not create a research culture or academic bent, making the students to work better in research degrees can create better culture With regards Dr.H.S.Siddamalliah
----- Original Message ----- From: "raja ram"
To: "nmlis" ; "lis" ; "corporatelibrns Moderator" Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: [nmlis] Casting away the NET Casting away the NET
The NET seems to be on its way out. But academics have their
reservations about this development. It is now official. The University Grants Commission (UGC) has declared
that the National Eligibility Test (NET) it conducts for identifying
potential teachers in colleges and universities will no longer be an
eligibility criterion for those with an M.Phil. and/or a doctoral degree.
On May 16, the Commission chairman announced that the interim report of
the Balchandra Mungekar Committee, which was set up by the Ministry of
Human Resource Development in November 2005 to suggest ways to revamp
the NET and to find out whether the NET was needed at all as an
eligibility criterion to teach in institutions of higher learning, has been accepted in principle.
Report recommendation
The interim report recommends that those with an M.Phil. may be
exempted from having to clear the NET for teaching in undergraduate courses and that those with a Ph.D. need not have a NET for teaching postgraduate courses.
This announcement has caused dismay among many academicians in Kerala.
Many teachers who spoke to The Hindu-Educationplus said they saw this
announcement as the beginning of the end of the NET. While these
academics are firm in their view that the NET as it exists today is pretty much useless, they are also equally firm in the belief that a
national-level test of some sort in unavoidable if quality teachers are to be appointed in the nation's universities and colleges.
Dissenting voices
"This is wrong step," says K. Sasikumar, professor, Department of
Commerce, University of Kerala. "It will open the floodgates of mediocrity as far as selecting good teachers is concerned. Now, in this university anyone with 55 per cent marks for the postgraduate examination can sign up for M.Phil. and everyone who registers for Ph.D. gets a doctoral degree. There is no such thing as turning down a thesis. There is no evaluation by a foreign expert."
"Now, after this announcement, there is going to be a huge rush for
M.Phil. courses," points out R. Mohankumar, general secretary of the All Kerala Private College Teachers' Association. He says the UGC has always been inconsistent in taking a stand, vis-à-vis exemptions from the NET.
"In 1993, 1998, 2000 and in 2002, the UGC's position regarding who can
be exempted from the NET kept on shifting. Is there a hidden agenda in
this? There must be. Otherwise why these constant changes? If for some
subjects, due to shortage of NET-qualified hands, some exemption needs
to be given, fine. But a blanket exemption for all M.Phil. holders and
Ph.D. holders? No that cannot be accepted. That is bad news for quality
teaching," he says.
Mr. Mohankumar adds that he is with those who argue that this move of
the UGC is aimed at regularising the services of hundreds, if not
thousands, of part-time/contract lecturers in colleges across the country who have not cleared the NET but have M.Phil. and are seeking to get a Ph.D.
Flawed decision
There are also those who feel that the Mungekar committee could have
better employed its time and energy by trying to reform and broad-base
the NET. Head of the Department of Law University of Kerala N. K.
Jayakumar is among those who firmly believe that the very concept of linking M.Phil. and Ph.D. to the career of a teacher is flawed.
"A good teacher need not be a good researcher and a good researcher
need not know how to teach. We see that happening all the time. Sure you should have a test to see gauge the teaching skills of a person. The method adopted by the National Law School Bangalore is very good in this respect. Now, with this announcement by the UGC, there is going to be a spurt in the number of M.Phils. being offered by colleges. In no time there will also be M.Phil. in the distance education mode. Then all those people are going to try and become teachers. What will happen to these people if in the future the NET - in another form - becomes
compulsory," Dr. Jayakumar asks.
Broad-basing NET
Former Vice-Chairman of the UGC V. N. Rajasekharan Pillai too says the
need of the hour is to try and revamp the NET instead of seeking to do
away with it. As a teacher he says he is strongly in favour of having a
nation-wide eligibility test in some form. " The NET can be broad-based
so as to assess teaching capability and aptitude," he told The
Hindu-Education plus over phone from Kottayam.Right from the time the Mungekar Committee was set up, Dr. Pillai had
argued that the best way ahead would be to have a NET that allows for
trans-disciplinary eligibility; so that a candidate who clear the NET for English can also teach such subjects as communicative English,
linguistics or journalism.
Many in the academic community say they would not be surprised if the
Mungekar Committee in its final report recommends that the NET be done
away with. "All these things should be done after a nation-wide debate
among academics and by a five-member committee," points out Mr.
Mohankumar, "such decisions can affect the lives and future of thousands of students."
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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: [nmlis] Casting away the NET Casting away the NET The NET seems to be on its way out. But academics have their reservations about this development. It is now official. The University Grants Commission (UGC) has declared that the National Eligibility Test (NET) it conducts for identifying potential teachers in colleges and universities will no longer be an eligibility criterion for those with an M.Phil. and/or a doctoral degree. On May 16, the Commission chairman announced that the interim report of the Balchandra Mungekar Committee, which was set up by the Ministry of Human Resource Development in November 2005 to suggest ways to revamp the NET and to find out whether the NET was needed at all as an eligibility criterion to teach in institutions of higher learning, has been accepted in principle. Report recommendation The interim report recommends that those with an M.Phil. may be exempted from having to clear the NET for teaching in undergraduate courses and that those with a Ph.D. need not have a NET for teaching postgraduate courses. This announcement has caused dismay among many academicians in Kerala. Many teachers who spoke to The Hindu-Educationplus said they saw this announcement as the beginning of the end of the NET. While these academics are firm in their view that the NET as it exists today is pretty much useless, they are also equally firm in the belief that a national-level test of some sort in unavoidable if quality teachers are to be appointed in the nation's universities and colleges. Dissenting voices "This is wrong step," says K. Sasikumar, professor, Department of Commerce, University of Kerala. "It will open the floodgates of mediocrity as far as selecting good teachers is concerned. Now, in this university anyone with 55 per cent marks for the postgraduate examination can sign up for M.Phil. and everyone who registers for Ph.D. gets a doctoral degree. There is no such thing as turning down a thesis. There is no evaluation by a foreign expert." "Now, after this announcement, there is going to be a huge rush for M.Phil. courses," points out R. Mohankumar, general secretary of the All Kerala Private College Teachers' Association. He says the UGC has always been inconsistent in taking a stand, vis-à-vis exemptions from the NET. "In 1993, 1998, 2000 and in 2002, the UGC's position regarding who can be exempted from the NET kept on shifting. Is there a hidden agenda in this? There must be. Otherwise why these constant changes? If for some subjects, due to shortage of NET-qualified hands, some exemption needs to be given, fine. But a blanket exemption for all M.Phil. holders and Ph.D. holders? No that cannot be accepted. That is bad news for quality teaching," he says. Mr. Mohankumar adds that he is with those who argue that this move of the UGC is aimed at regularising the services of hundreds, if not thousands, of part-time/contract lecturers in colleges across the country who have not cleared the NET but have M.Phil. and are seeking to get a Ph.D. Flawed decision There are also those who feel that the Mungekar committee could have better employed its time and energy by trying to reform and broad-base the NET. Head of the Department of Law University of Kerala N. K. Jayakumar is among those who firmly believe that the very concept of linking M.Phil. and Ph.D. to the career of a teacher is flawed. "A good teacher need not be a good researcher and a good researcher need not know how to teach. We see that happening all the time. Sure you should have a test to see gauge the teaching skills of a person. The method adopted by the National Law School Bangalore is very good in this respect. Now, with this announcement by the UGC, there is going to be a spurt in the number of M.Phils. being offered by colleges. In no time there will also be M.Phil. in the distance education mode. Then all those people are going to try and become teachers. What will happen to these people if in the future the NET - in another form - becomes compulsory," Dr. Jayakumar asks. Broad-basing NET Former Vice-Chairman of the UGC V. N. Rajasekharan Pillai too says the need of the hour is to try and revamp the NET instead of seeking to do away with it. As a teacher he says he is strongly in favour of having a nation-wide eligibility test in some form. " The NET can be broad-based so as to assess teaching capability and aptitude," he told The Hindu-Education plus over phone from Kottayam.Right from the time the Mungekar Committee was set up, Dr. Pillai had argued that the best way ahead would be to have a NET that allows for trans-disciplinary eligibility; so that a candidate who clear the NET for English can also teach such subjects as communicative English, linguistics or journalism. Many in the academic community say they would not be surprised if the Mungekar Committee in its final report recommends that the NET be done away with. "All these things should be done after a nation-wide debate among academics and by a five-member committee," points out Mr. Mohankumar, "such decisions can affect the lives and future of thousands of students." G. MAHADEVAN Source: The Hindu, Education plus , kerala. --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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Dear Friends
UGC have honoured university colleagues
If university people are not confident
on their own product
why don't they close M.Phil or Ph.D.,
on Contrary Ph.D., is mandatory for teacher in their
promotion, irrespective of whether they are through with
NET or not.
If NET is everything why Ph.D., why don.t you call it like an IAS in
academic.
Research or academic activities are mindset, culture and need to be acquired
through practice and actual research not just one exam
Please be proactive to creativity and grow up to expectation by creating
better products in university. Do not underestimate your own product.
Good or bad is a comparative value,
there is no benchmark for it
With regards
Dr.H.S.Siddamallaiah
----- Original Message -----
From: "raja ram"
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Hi,
I do not know who told my respected friends that those who have cleared NET / SET have opted standards and quality? Its been observed that, just because of NET and / or SET clearance few undeserved candidates gets job. There are professionals who hold certificates in NET / SET but can not build a good image of profession in society, do not have enthusiasm in teaching and / or servicing the need of users. Even students can clearly mark their negative qualities. Tell me how many college going students actually say some good things about their librarian? Everyone makes faces when the topic of library or librarian comes into discussion. One can easily observe this in surrounding specially while traveling with young generation.
In such cases whats the use of their certificates of NET/SET exams?
If private sector ensures the best candidate for their profitability and if professionals with NET/SET are supposed to be the best then why our MNCs and private sectors are yet away from having that as one of the major selection criteria for candidate? Infact the payments in these sectors are like anything and thus they can demand for the best as well. But I think they go for skills and not for certificates which can be obtained through a completely opaque system like these eligibility examinations. Tell me how many students who can not clear these exams even after several attempts, actually know the paper which becomes cause of failure? There is no transparency in examination results and thus it does not help students for preparations of next attempt.
One of our friends has stated that A good teacher need not be a good researcher and a good researcher need not be a good teacher thus M. Phil and Ph.D. as well have to go through these examinations. But can anyone tell me which section of NET / SET exam actually checks teaching skills of candidates?
People from private sectors do their best to update themselves and cater the need of their organizations. But people from public sector has secure job and thus do not take much efforts to give someting best, which spoils the image of profession and professionals both.
Thus I personally think that the exemption of these examinations is a good start and at same time instead of debating NET/SET/Ph.D./M.Phil etc. we should think of improving quality of our profession. Cause our educational system is such that neither clearing any of eligibility tests nor having any degree assures the quality. And our professionals who works as guide for Ph. D. and M. Phil students should take care that they allocate degree to a proper candidate. They can also try to either ban those universities who give fake degree to students or force them to wind up their activity so that we get quality.
There should be a committee where anyone can complain against those professionals who are spoiling the image of profession. And the rights should be given to that committee so that they can take serious actions against the candidate (Like in Medical profession they have rights to take away the degree of doctor). This will automatically help to maintain the quality. And people will do their best to serve the profession.
Regards,
Monali
Sr. Exe. - Library & Documentation
Mumbai.
From:
"Dr.H.S.Siddmallaiah"
Dear Friends
UGC have honoured university colleagues
If university people are not confident on their own product why don't they close M.Phil or Ph.D.,
on Contrary Ph.D., is mandatory for teacher in their promotion, irrespective of whether they are through with NET or not. If NET is everything why Ph.D., why don.t you call it like an IAS in academic.
Research or academic activities are mindset, culture and need to be acquired through practice and actual research not just one exam
Please be proactive to creativity and grow up to expectation by creating better products in university. Do not underestimate your own product. Good or bad is a comparative value, there is no benchmark for it
With regards Dr.H.S.Siddamallaiah
----- Original Message ----- From: "raja ram"
To: "nmlis" ; "lis" ; "corporatelibrns Moderator" Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: [nmlis] Casting away the NET Casting away the NET
The NET seems to be on its way out. But academics have their
reservations about this development. It is now official. The University Grants Commission (UGC) has declared
that the National Eligibility Test (NET) it conducts for identifying
potential teachers in colleges and universities will no longer be an
eligibility criterion for those with an M.Phil. and/or a doctoral degree.
On May 16, the Commission chairman announced that the interim report of
the Balchandra Mungekar Committee, which was set up by the Ministry of
Human Resource Development in November 2005 to suggest ways to revamp
the NET and to find out whether the NET was needed at all as an
eligibility criterion to teach in institutions of higher learning, has been accepted in principle.
Report recommendation
The interim report recommends that those with an M.Phil. may be
exempted from having to clear the NET for teaching in undergraduate courses and that those with a Ph.D. need not have a NET for teaching postgraduate courses.
This announcement has caused dismay among many academicians in Kerala.
Many teachers who spoke to The Hindu-Educationplus said they saw this
announcement as the beginning of the end of the NET. While these
academics are firm in their view that the NET as it exists today is pretty much useless, they are also equally firm in the belief that a
national-level test of some sort in unavoidable if quality teachers are to be appointed in the nation's universities and colleges.
Dissenting voices
"This is wrong step," says K. Sasikumar, professor, Department of
Commerce, University of Kerala. "It will open the floodgates of mediocrity as far as selecting good teachers is concerned. Now, in this university anyone with 55 per cent marks for the postgraduate examination can sign up for M.Phil. and everyone who registers for Ph.D. gets a doctoral degree. There is no such thing as turning down a thesis. There is no evaluation by a foreign expert."
"Now, after this announcement, there is going to be a huge rush for
M.Phil. courses," points out R. Mohankumar, general secretary of the All Kerala Private College Teachers' Association. He says the UGC has always been inconsistent in taking a stand, vis-à-vis exemptions from the NET.
"In 1993, 1998, 2000 and in 2002, the UGC's position regarding who can
be exempted from the NET kept on shifting. Is there a hidden agenda in
this? There must be. Otherwise why these constant changes? If for some
subjects, due to shortage of NET-qualified hands, some exemption needs
to be given, fine. But a blanket exemption for all M.Phil. holders and
Ph.D. holders? No that cannot be accepted. That is bad news for quality
teaching," he says.
Mr. Mohankumar adds that he is with those who argue that this move of
the UGC is aimed at regularising the services of hundreds, if not
thousands, of part-time/contract lecturers in colleges across the country who have not cleared the NET but have M.Phil. and are seeking to get a Ph.D.
Flawed decision
There are also those who feel that the Mungekar committee could have
better employed its time and energy by trying to reform and broad-base
the NET. Head of the Department of Law University of Kerala N. K.
Jayakumar is among those who firmly believe that the very concept of linking M.Phil. and Ph.D. to the career of a teacher is flawed.
"A good teacher need not be a good researcher and a good researcher
need not know how to teach. We see that happening all the time. Sure you should have a test to see gauge the teaching skills of a person. The method adopted by the National Law School Bangalore is very good in this respect. Now, with this announcement by the UGC, there is going to be a spurt in the number of M.Phils. being offered by colleges. In no time there will also be M.Phil. in the distance education mode. Then all those people are going to try and become teachers. What will happen to these people if in the future the NET - in another form - becomes
compulsory," Dr. Jayakumar asks.
Broad-basing NET
Former Vice-Chairman of the UGC V. N. Rajasekharan Pillai too says the
need of the hour is to try and revamp the NET instead of seeking to do
away with it. As a teacher he says he is strongly in favour of having a
nation-wide eligibility test in some form. " The NET can be broad-based
so as to assess teaching capability and aptitude," he told The
Hindu-Education plus over phone from Kottayam.Right from the time the Mungekar Committee was set up, Dr. Pillai had
argued that the best way ahead would be to have a NET that allows for
trans-disciplinary eligibility; so that a candidate who clear the NET for English can also teach such subjects as communicative English,
linguistics or journalism.
Many in the academic community say they would not be surprised if the
Mungekar Committee in its final report recommends that the NET be done
away with. "All these things should be done after a nation-wide debate
among academics and by a five-member committee," points out Mr.
Mohankumar, "such decisions can affect the lives and future of thousands of students."
G. MAHADEVAN Source: The Hindu, Education plus , kerala.
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