12 Jan
2019
12 Jan
'19
4:34 p.m.
Dear Professionals,
Thanks to Dr. Goudar for a detailed profile on NISCAIR/INSDOC etc. Since the introduction consortia approach to scholarly journals how many libraries have facilities for archiving the back numbers, and where is the point is updating the holdings data. Ok there might be some libraries who subscribe to Print journals both Indian and Foreign, and of course they have not prepared the holdings data, but as I find some libraries have holdings information as late as 2002 and I have been successful getting a Two page article from TIFR. The e-journals subscription has almost debarred most libraries to build journal archives and we have to depend on e-journal digital libraries like UGC-Infonet where the problem copyright props in. To overcome this problem a Project on sharing back numbers about 12 library groups have been formed and I have gone through a report on this project while I was in US in 2017. But Indian LIS professionals are not thinking on this line.
When the INSDOC Regional centre was established to augment the IISc resources, probably many may not know that then head of the IISc Library did not cooperate in document supply services of INSDOC Regional Centre and hope you also know this fact.
The user is not concerned about the management aspect of any organisation or library is main concern is to get the document of his need and it is the job of the professionals like us to provide the same at any cost. The Organisation aspect of libraries and its collection has been totally marred by the concept of 'E" in library services and this thinking of ours some may call as 'they are Old' and they don't accept the modernity.
Even to this day I have helped many readers with my "Old" knowledge and many consider us as outdated and Obsolete.
Thanks,
Asundi
On Saturday, 12 January, 2019, 4:21:58 PM IST, Ishwar Goudar wrote:
Dear Professionals, Prof Asundi and Vinod,
Following are my views in the matter concerned to my posting on "Request
for an Article" and followed
responses to it through Lis-Forum.
*NUCSSI:*
- A wonderful tool for Journal holdings information;
- A well conceived and implemented by then INSDOC;
- One can search serial holdings by state, city, Journal title;
- Integration of database with E-mail request for document is a great
feature;
- Available online and is Open Access (
http://nucssi.niscair.res.in/default.aspx)
- Great tool especially for less known and old print journals and when one
needs very old articles ;
*BUT: *
- This is journal title level search tool, not article level;
- Although mentions date of update same as one visits, probably not more
than 5% of Libraries have updated their holdings that too till 2016
A sample check showed only one library in Bangalore has updated till 2016;
- Most of the library journal holdings cover up to years 2000 or earlier;
- There was scope for its further development with better search features
and links to journal website, etc;
- Apathy of NISCAIR management and also that of contributing library is
problem;
- Many a times the concerned server is down;
- None of the related links given in its site are accessible;
- It is difficult to have an idea of holdings print Vs online, that in the
context of Consortia;
The person in charge of this project in NISCAIR is very capable person. But
probably he
needs support both from his institution in terms of manpower, funds for
improving the
features, etc and LIS professionals in updating their serial holdings in
NUCSSI.
INSDOC served the researchers in a big way as document supply centre. Its
Regional Centre in the campusof IISc was closed unceremoniously. Tata
Memorial
Library rich resources were used for its service. Its last head himself
recommended the
its closure. INSDOC's main mandate was diluted by successive its leadership.
A small team of Heads of Library, for which I was one of the member,
conceived, planned
and could set up CSIR E-Journals Consortia. CSIR, entrusted the job its
administration to
INSDOC/NISCAIR. This consortia was not only well managed, but became NKRC
embracing
institutions like DST. Incorporating and executing INSDOC's one of the
mandate of serving
entire research community for supplying document as an an extension of
consortia activity
with distributed responsibility model among Consortia Members at the same
time
addressing related copyright issues would have been a nice step forward.
*Now the question is:*
- How relevant it is in the context of many Open Source, Social media,
Commercial
databases and Pirate Bay of Science like Sci-hub serving as Access/ ILL
tools at
article level search and access facility.
- Google Scholar, an open source huge database gives links to the full
texts, wherever
available in OA channel including social media databases like
ResearchGate, Digital IRs
all over the world.
- J-Gate+ covers >50,000 Journals, provides IP based full text access full
texts including
23,000 OA Journals. It has also incorporated Request Article facility, by
incorporating
Union catalogue of journals holding of University and other Consortia
member libraries,
with a choice of institution for request and incorporating e-mail
generating faculty
without putting our efforts to key in article details. Most of the Indian
Consortia
subscribe to this tool.
- There are wonderful Harvesting services like Bielefeld Academic Search
Engine - BASE
gives access to >140 Million Records of different documents including
>7.6 M theses,
most of the search results with links to full text access.
- DOAJ Gives acces to >1200 OA Journals.
- Sci-Hub gives access to >70 Million Full text items including articles in
press, although
a pirate source, is used by millions researchers even from US and
European countries.
- NDL India too has come up in a big way giving accces to many sources even
in
regional languages.
In spite all these sources available for researchers, NUCSSI, has its own
relevance
especially in the context less known journals, only print old journals,
for the getting
older articles not covered by any of these sources. Thank you Prof Asundi
for mentioning
about NUCSSI in response to my post.
Yes, as raised by Vinod Mishra, copyright issue is to be addressed in this
context. Most
of the Libraries supply the articles under fair use context. I don't think
anybody got into copyring
problem so far. However some corporate libraries, even after getting copy
from other libraries free,
pay to *Copyright Clearance Center* (*CCC*) on their own.
WHATEVER CAME TO MY THOUGHT I HAVE WRITTEN IN THIS POSTING. OTHER
PROFESSIONALS
CAN GIVE THEIR CONSTRUCTIVE AND PRACTICAL SUGGESTIONS IN THIS MATTER,FOR
THE BENEFIT OF ESPECIALLY MY YOUNG LIS PROFESSIONAL FRIENDS.
Regards,
Goudar
"Access E-Resources for Academic and Research Excellence"
*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -*
Dr. I.R.N. Goudar
- Adjunct Professor, Mangalore University
- Ex. Visiting Professor Cum Library Adviser
Bangalore University Library, BANGALORE - 560056
- Ex. Visiting Professor Cum Library Adviser, UoM, Mysore
- Ex. Scientist 'G' and Head, ICAST, NAL, Bangalore
- Ex. Dy Librarian, IITM, Chennai
- Ex. Scientist (Information), IICT, Hyderabad
- Fulbright Scholar, Univ. of Michigan and Columbia Univ, USA (1995-96)
- British Council Scholar (1982-83)
E-mail: goudarishwar@gmail.com
Mob: 91+9611165781
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:27 PM Ashok Asundi
wrote:
> Dear LIS Professionals and Dr. Goudar and others,
>
> Thanks for suggesting sources from where Article requests our
> professionals are met. But unfortunately none of them have mentioned
> NUCSSI - National Union Catalogue of Scientific Serials in India brought
> out by INSDOC now NISCAIR. Of course it covers mainly Science and
> Technology serials, but on the other hand it covers LIS and Management
> Science journals to some extent. Suggestions to to go Google Scholar and
> Research gate and OA Journals or IRs is like finding needle in the
> haystack and some of the them cannot be downloaded instantly as I have
> experienced while navigating them. The NUCSSI is and Indian source and has
> catalogued nearly 40,000 titles from about 700Libraries in India. I have
> searched and replied many requests and some times the journal might be
> available in a neighbourhood libraries and for instance it had happened in
> one of the instances when I replied to Dr. Francis Jayakanthan's mail. So
> dear librarians don't you forget and ignore such an effort made by our own
> documentation centre which has done a benchmark for the systematic
> documentation of Union Catalogue especially Library Codes, Holdings
> details and so on. Its web version came out in 2010. See paper by Rekha
> MIttal published in Interlending and Document SUpply, V39, pp.53-60.
>
>
> Prof. A.Y.Asundi
> Professor (Ret.)
> DLISC Bangalore University,
> Bangalore.
> On Wednesday, 9 January, 2019, 9:53:37 PM IST, vinod mishra <
> mishravk79@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> Thanks, actually I just wish to say or ask now? Do you feel is there any
> possibility of a copyright-related or e-resource agreement related problem
> or the official problems to those who share the contents procured for their
> own library but sharing without official procedure/permission?
>
> Kindly guide us what the are precautions which one should take before
> asking for such information or delivering such things in private/public?
>
> With Regards,
>
> Vinod Kumar Mishra,
> Assistant Librarian,
> Biju Patnaik Central Library (BPCL),
> NIT Rourkela,
> Sundergadh-769008,
> Odisha,
> India.
> Mob:91+9439420860
> Website: http://mishravk.com/
> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-4666-7874
>
> *"Spiritual relationship is far more precious than physical. Physical
> relationship divorced from spiritual is body without soul" -- Mahatma
> Gandhi*
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 9:25 PM Ishwar Goudar
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Professionals,
> >
> > 1.This is in response to Vinod Mishra's query whether the acknowledgement
> > for the receipt of document against article requested should be private
> or
> > public. Before posting my suggestion I gave a thought, but remained
> > silent. Being private, one is not dumping additional mail on to Forum
> > unnecessarily On the other hand being public all will come to know that
> > there is no need for further attempt by others. So it is left to the
> > discretion of ILL requester.
> >
> > 2. Another suggestion for those libraries having access to J-Gate +. It
> > has incorporated union catalog of University and several other
> libraries
> > in the country. A link is provided as “Find-in-a-Library for 55 million
> > articles indexed in it. One can easily find out which are the Libraries
> > likely having the journal issue required. More importantly a request
> can
> > be placed to the library of our choice directly using the e-mail proforma
> > built in without trying trace contact details of library concerned and
> also
> > type article details.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Goudar
> > "Access E-Resources for Academic and Research Excellence"
> >
> > *- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -*
> > Dr. I.R.N. Goudar
> > - Adjunct Professor, Mangalore University
> > - Ex. Visiting Professor Cum Library Adviser
> > Bangalore University Library, BANGALORE - 560056
> > - Ex. Visiting Professor Cum Library Adviser, UoM, Mysore
> > - Ex. Scientist 'G' and Head, ICAST, NAL, Bangalore
> > - Ex. Dy Librarian, IITM, Chennai
> > - Ex. Scientist (Information), IICT, Hyderabad
> > - Fulbright Scholar, Univ. of Michigan and Columbia Univ, USA (1995-96)
> > - British Council Scholar (1982-83)
> > E-mail: goudarishwar@gmail.com
> > Mob: 91+9611165781
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: Francis Jayakanth
> > Date: Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 7:52 PM
> > Subject: Fw: [LIS-Forum] Suggestion - For Requesting Full Text of Article
> > To: Ishwar Goudar
> >
> >
> > Sir, here are the replies to your posting. You may reply to this mail,
> but
> > you need to do so by forwaring my mail to lis-forum@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in
> >
> >
> > With regards, Francis
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* LIS-Forum on behalf of
> > vinod
> > mishra
> > *Sent:* 06 January 2019 23:31
> > *To:* Ishwar Goudar
> > *Cc:* lis-forum
> > *Subject:* Re: [LIS-Forum] Suggestion - For Requesting Full Text of
> Article
> >
> > Please clarify acknowledgements should be public or private?
> >
> > 4. Don't forget to acknowledge and thank those who sends the article.
> >
> > On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 23:05 Ishwar Goudar,
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Professionals,
> > >
> > > Many of you send requests through Lis-forum or directly to your contact
> > for
> > > full text of articles. Before sending the requests please do some home
> > > work.
> > >
> > > 1. Search Google scholar. You may find link to the full texts through
> > > Research Gate
> > > or Institutional Repositories or some Open Access Sources.
> > >
> > > 2. Provide DOI Number if available. Most of the articles published
> today
> > > do have
> > > DOI numbers.
> > > - Please visit the Website of the Journal, see the contents page
> > and
> > > look for
> > > abstract. Usually one gets DOI Number here.
> > > - DOI number helps us to get full text of articles very easily
> > without
> > > wasting much
> > > of our time. and there by many will volunteer to help you
> > including
> > > me.
> > >
> > > 3. Provide full information if you dont get DOI Number. You may have
> to
> > do
> > > do some
> > > home work for this.
> > >
> > > 4. Don't forget to acknowledge and thank those who sends the article.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Goudar
> > >
> > > "Access E-Resources for Academic and Research Excellence"
> > >
> > > *- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -*
> > > Dr. I.R.N. Goudar
> > > - Adjunct Professor, Mangalore University
> > > - Ex. Visiting Professor Cum Library Adviser
> > > Bangalore University Library, BANGALORE - 560056
> > > - Ex. Visiting Professor Cum Library Adviser, UoM, Mysore
> > > - Ex. Scientist 'G' and Head, ICAST, NAL, Bangalore
> > > - Ex. Dy Librarian, IITM, Chennai
> > > - Ex. Scientist (Information), IICT, Hyderabad
> > > - Fulbright Scholar, Univ. of Michigan and Columbia Univ, USA (1995-96)
> > > - British Council Scholar (1982-83)
> > > E-mail: goudarishwar@gmail.com
> > > Mob: 91+9611165781
> > >
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