Re: [LIS-Forum] @ Shukhdev singh on DDS

22 Mar 2013

      Dear Dr. Barman,

I agree with Mr Deepak that idea of credit should be same for giver and receiver both. As far as copy right is concerned, we can make union catalogue without violating the copyright because making union catalogue or indexing & making bibliography of the documents do not fall under copyright. Systematic downloading and using for profit, definitely come under umbrella of copy right.

Voluntarily sharing one or two articles form a journal to a needy person for study or research purpose should be encouraged, and I think it will not create problem.

Also the price of the DDS considering that there is no postal expense, can be minimize for reasonable or closed down.

Regards,

Ram Laut Tyagee

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:42:07 +0530

From: "Dr. Badan Barman" <badanbarman@gmail.com>

To: Librarian <librarian@intaspharma.com>

Cc: "lis-forum@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in" <lis-forum@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in>

Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] @ Shukhdev singh on DDS RE: LIS-Forum Digest,

      Vol 120, Issue 17

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Dear Singh (Sukhdev Singh) Sir,

You are quite right, and I am very much aware of this fact. However, we all

know that we cannot survive without crossing some boundary. LIS Forum

itself receive a huge number of request for DDS, and people are still

sharing by crossing the boundaries of copyright. I just want to make it a

more effective one. Lets hope for the best.

Dear Tyagee (Ram Laut Tyagee) Sir,

Thanks for supporting. I hope it will be a fruitful one. 386 People already

agreed to share the resources (

http://lislinks.com/group/document-delivery-service-dds). Within less than

a week, we already build a collection of more than 50 online databases from

26 libraries.

Now lets make a trial.

  Thanking you,

Yours faithfully

Address: Dr. Badan Barman, Academic Consultant, Library & Information

Science, Krishna Kanta Handiqui State Open University, Housefed Complex,

Last Gate, Guwahati-781006, Assam, India

*Toll Free Number:* 1800 345 3613

*Phone:* 0361-2234964 / 2235971 / 092070 49493

*Fax:* 0361- 2235398.

*Institutional Websites:* http://www.kkhsou.in

*Personal Websites:* http://www.lislinks.com

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Sukhdev Singh

TD., NIC.

esukhdev@gmail.com<mailto:esukhdev@gmail.com>

Dear Dr. Badan Barman,

Unless the documents intended to be shared are "Open Access" type, the

people involved may land into problems under the provision of Copy

Right act.

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V. Sriram

Chief Librarian

vsrirams@gmail.com<mailto:vsrirams@gmail.com>

Dear Dr. Badan Barman,

Thanks for coming up with this initiative.

May I make the following comments?

- The idea of one credit for giver and two credits for receiver seems to be

unfair. [Even for the noble cause like 'blood donation' the credit is same,

if I give one pint of blood, I am entitled to receive one pint in return]

Hence for ILL also credits should be same.

- The amount of Rs. 50/- seems to be too high, [especially since we are

dealing with e-documents only]. May I suggest Rs.20/- or Rs.25/-. [Taking

into account all aspects such as usage of computers, internet, electricity,

staff time]

- And in case of institutions interested in charging their users for ILL,

the moderator should provide an invoice for obtaining the payment.

Best wishes!!

Regards,

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Dipak Seal, dipakseal@hotmail.com<mailto:dipakseal@hotmail.com>

Dear Sir,

This will indeed be a great service for DDS by the LIS Professionals. To

have a clear idea about that, we would like to know whether DDS includes

full text articles available from various journal consortium e.g. JSTOR,

Emeraldinsight, ebsco, etc.. and other e-journals sources.

Kindly enlighten us.

With regards,

dipak

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G.K.MANJUNATH

gkm@igidr.ac.in<mailto:gkm@igidr.ac.in>

pl visit this site for Online Union catalogue of journal holdings in social

sciences

http://oii.igidr.ac.in

click on Union Catalogue

One can also contribute data online with a login

Sharing electronic documents with other libraries, unless these are in open

access, may violate Copy Right. But what about building union catalogue of

online resouces ?  Does it need permission from the publishers or

aggregators ?

Also, non-members of a library ( visitors) may be allowed to use the

resources within the premises of a library if the agreement with the

service providers is  signed accordingly.

g.k.manjuanath

igidr, Mumbai

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Sakhvir sidhu

ssidhu_14@yahoo.co.in<mailto:ssidhu_14@yahoo.co.in>

Dear Sir,

This a really great initiative that you have taken and all the very best to

you .

Thanks n regards

Ms. Sakhvir Sidhu

Aditya Birla World Academy

Mumbai

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Librarian <librarian@intaspharma.com<mailto:librarian@intaspharma.com>>wrote:
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Sir,
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According to your opinion, every library which is offering DDS service on
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payment basis will fall under this copyright law, then what is the right of
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library which is subscribing the particular resource and paying a huge
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amount for it?
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There is no sense of making library networks if you do not have right to
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share your resource with the network libraries.
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Copy rights and resource sharing are always contradictory we will have to
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find a way between.
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Dr. Barman came with a brilliant idea and all the libraries at least try
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and assess the pros and cons of the idea then only we can make any
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conclusion.
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Regards
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Ram Laut Tyagee
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Librarian
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Intas Biopharmaceuticals Ltd.
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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:53:11 +0530
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From: Sukhdev Singh <esukhdev@gmail.com>
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To: "Dr. Badan Barman" <badanbarman@gmail.com>
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Cc: nmlis@yahoogroups.com, digilib_india@yahoogroups.com,
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lis-forum@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in, mlosc <mlosc@googlegroups.com>

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Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] LIS Links Document Delivery Service (DDS)
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Dear Dr. Badan Barman,
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Unless the documents intended to be shared are "Open Access" type, the
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people involved may land into problems under the provision of Copy
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Right act.
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Regards,
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Sukhdev Singh.
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TD., NIC.
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Dr. Badan Barman <badanbarman@gmail.com<mailto:badanbarman@gmail.com>>
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Respected Froum / Group Members,
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It become a regular fact that people who made a document request did not
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receive the document. Day by day people stop sharing for the benefit of
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others. So, I come with a plan to help the people who are in need of a
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document and at the same time to strengthen the existing library
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associations just by sharing a document.
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*Proposed Step by Step Process for LIS Links Document Delivery Service*
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*Group Address: http://lislinks.com/group/document-delivery-service-dds
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*1. Building Union Collection of Electronic Documents:* We are building
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union collection of database / e-journals / e-books that are accessible
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to
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individual librarians through their institutional subscription. It will
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only include the collection of those librarians who want to participate
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in
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the LIS Links Document Delivery Service. If you are interested kindly
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join
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this group (http://lislinks.com/group/document-delivery-service-dds),
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and
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include your collection in this form (
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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1BBczxocBBVd9ZgvtQLJotrQW7ye2Jif9UYmUEoRT_Hw...
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).
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*2. Ask for Your Document:* As a librarian if you or any one of your
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library member feel the need of any kind of document particularly e-book,
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e-journal, electronic article, that are not accessible from your own
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institute or you are not subscribed to it, then you can ask for the
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document here (
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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/11sFcxwr8dqR0ptgsaJUYBJ37KwYkPaQkujfFNzLm4ZA...
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).
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? Now the moderator will consult the union collection of electronic
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documents, and send the request to only those who have the access to your
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requested document.
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? The sender will send the document to the moderator and in turn
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moderator
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will send the document to the people who are in need of it.
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? Those who will send the article will earn a single credit (for every
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kind
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of document a single credit), and the people who will receive it, will
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owe
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two credit for a single document.
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? At the end of the year we will charged the people who owe a credit (one
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credit is equal to Rs. 50/-).
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? Those who will earn the credit can use his/her credit to get a document
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or he/she can cash the credit and donate it to any national level library
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association of India (excluding the cost of cheque clearance fee / cost
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of
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demand draft and postal charge).
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? Kindly note we are not making a profit and will also take necessary
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action so that others cannot make a profit out of it.
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*Note:* I really dont know whether this plan will work or not, but I
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think
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we should try it. Kindly provide your constructive criticism on my plan
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join me in a test.
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Thanking you,
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Yours faithfully
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Address: Dr. Badan Barman, Academic Consultant, Library & Information
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Science, Krishna Kanta Handiqui State Open University, Housefed Complex,
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Last Gate, Guwahati-781006, Assam, India
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*Toll Free Number:* 1800 345 3613
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*Phone:* 0361-2234964 / 2235971 / 092070 49493
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*Fax:* 0361- 2235398.
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*Institutional Websites:* http://www.kkhsou.in
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*Personal Websites:* http://www.lislinks.com
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