DON'T FORGET TO COST THE "TIME OF PEOPLE" IN REAL TERMS.
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From: "Subbiah Arunachalam"
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; "Leslie Chan" ; "EPT"
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:40 AM
Subject: [LIS-Forum] Fw: Costs of setting up an institutional OA archive
Friends:
What do you think it would cost to set up and run an interoperable open
access institutional archive (similar to the IISc eprints archive) in
your institution? Mr Richard Poynder of the UK has quoted some figures,
but they appear to me as needlessly high.
I welcome your estimates.
Arun
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mailto:EPT@biostrat.demon.co.uk EPT
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mailto:aotg20@dsl.pipex.com Richard Poynder
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Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:37 PM
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Re: Costs of setting up an institutional OA archive
All,
We have to be very careful we are comparing apples with apples. You
could cost the setting up figure by including every institutional
contribution that the accountants demand (the obvious hardware and staff
time, but also including institutional overheads, departmental
contributions to general services, and the many other bits and pieces
that costing exercises could require), or you could cost it at the very
basic level where the work is done as a student exercise or is absorbed
in some on-going project and the archive uses pre-existing hardware with
spare capacity. I am astounded by some of the figures quoted and am
certain that organisations in developing and emerging countries that are
fully aware of the benefts of OA to their scientific development will do
it within their existing budgets. Let's hear it from India, Namibia,
Mexico, Brazil and China.
Barbara
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From:
mailto:aotg20@dsl.pipex.com Richard Poynder
To:
mailto:arun@mssrf.res.in 'Subbiah Arunachalam'
; mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk
; mailto:peters@earlham.edu peters@earlham.edu
; mailto:chan@utsc.utoronto.ca 'Leslie Chan'
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richard.poynder@journalist.co.uk
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Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:47 AM
Subject:
RE: Costs of setting up an institutional OA archive
Hi Arun,
Absolutely, the more data collected on costs the better I would think.
The figures I quoted come from a study done by Alma Swan. See: (
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/4018.html
http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/4018.html
).
The full report is at
http://www.keyperspectives.co.uk/OpenAccessArchive/E-prints_delivery_mod
el.pdf
http://www.keyperspectives.co.uk/OpenAccessArchive/E-prints_delivery_mod
el.pdf
.
I would certainly be interested in details of any similar studies.
Best wishes,
Richard Poynder
Friends:
Richard Poynder says in his article in
Information Today
:
"Indeed, libraries are finding that they have to not only continue
paying traditional journal subscriptions, but they have to pay OA
membership fees too. And to cap it all off, many are also being asked to
create institutional repositories-a process costing anywhere from $7,000
to $2.5 million in setup fees and at least $40,000 a year in running
costs."
Are these figures OK? We should collect data from all the institutional
archives operating now (in the world as a whole) as well as look at the
costs of centralised archives such as Cornell's arXiv. At least in
India, setting up of an institutional archive would cost much less. Dr T
B Rajashekar of NCSI-IISc, Dr A R D Prasad of DRTC-ISI, Dr D K Sahu of
MedKnow, Ms Naina Panditha of NIC, Mr Sreekumar of IIMK, Prof. B
Viswanathan of Catlysis Society of India, and Dr Krishnan of NCL may
kindly comment on this point.
Regards.
Arun
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