Dear All,
I agree with Mr.Manjunath. It is too much to fight on the
discussion forum. If they disagree to that extent, let them
exchange mails on their individual mail addresses but not
on the discussion forum.
Let us stop it. There are many itelligent people who know
little english and many English experts who know nothing in
the subject. We need not argue so much on only one issue.
We have so many new things to be discussed on the forum.
The one like FAQs in Interviews etc, yes let new ideas be
brought to all our notices.
I visited the site refered by Mr.Manjunath, for all your
convenience I have pasted the following few paragraphs of
the Guidelines for appropriate List Behaviours.
Let us at least try to follow them from now onwards.
Thanks,
Konnur.
Guidelines for Appropriate List Behavior
The following guidelines are offered as advice for how to
best participate in this discussion in a manner that will
both contribute to the experience of all readers and also
reflect well on you.
Say something substantial. Simply saying "I agree" (in so
many words) or "I disagree" (in so many words) does not
meet this guideline. Specific technical questions are,
however, quite appropriate, as are brief answers to such
questions.
Say something new. Mere redundancy will not convince an
opponent of their error. Explaining the same argument
differently in an attempt to make them see the light has
not been proven to be an effective strategy.
"Getting the last word" is for children. We're all beyond
the age when we should be concerned with being the one to
end the argument. Just because you are the last to speak
doesn't mean you won the argument.
Agree to disagree. The likelihood of convincing someone to
change a strongly held opinion is nil. State your case, but
give up on the idea of converting the heathen.
Take "conversations" off the list. When list interaction
becomes two-sided (two individuals trading comments or
arguments) it is a sign that you should take the discussion
off the list and correspond with that person directly. If
the discussion was of interest to the general membership
you will see others posting on the topic as well.
Remember that you are being judged by the quality of your
contributions. No matter whether you are employed or not,
or a certain age, or have a certain education, you can
create a good professional reputation by how you contribute
to a large electronic discussion like Web4Lib. On the other
hand, you can ruin your reputation even faster and easier.
NEVER send email in anger. Go ahead and compose a message
in anger, since that may help you work through what you're
angry about, but don't send it. Sleep on it. You will
nearly always decide to not send it or to recompose it.
There's a reason for that.
Be civil. Treat others how you wish to be treated. No
matter how insulting someone is to you, you will always
look better to the bystanders (of which there are many, I
hasten to remind you) by responding politely.
Respect the rights of others. An electronic discussion is a
commons. Your right to post ends at the right of others to
not be insulted, badgered, or to have their time needlessly
wasted.
--- "G. K. Manjunath"
I personally feel that, we had enough debate on this issue and is time for the LIS- FORUM to stop further discussion on it. My apololgy, if the moderator or the forum members feel otherwise.
Many good suggestions have been offered by our friends. Therefore, let individuals decide the language in which they prefer to communicate and the language that is most required and accepted in their organizations or by the peer group.
Needless to say that LIS FORUM accepts only English.
The guidelines provided by Berkeley Digital Library site for participating in E-discussion seem to be very useful. Those interested may find these at
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/
thanks, g.k.Manjunath IGIDR, MUMBAI
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, A.V. Nagarathna wrote:
Dear All,
........Response to Mr./Dr. Hiremath��
I am annoyed only because your arguments are not logical.
Basically members on this forum can offer their suggestions when the argument is logical.
I am surprised that you talk about decency! Can you just read once again all your messages to this forum how decent the words you have used�. Disservice�unwarranted�slaves to English�unfortunate Indians�show oof...look down upon� By the way who are you to refer to others as �unfortunate��
You are questioning me what is �show off�, it is you who used these words in your message first time�if you can offer me explanation what you mean by this.. I can give you reply�
Don�t you understand even now, after reading several messages on this forum explaining why you need to know English and when you need it ?
Who are you to declare Tamil is the language of Bangalore?
If you want to promote or advice usage of regional languages, canvas in that language, why are you using English for this purpose? Since you are opposing usage of English, first you have to implement and stop using English before you advice others.
In spite of several responses on this forum --- explaining why English is essential, you are continuing to argue BLINDLY and enforcing your �fixed concepts and ideas� on others.
May be it is better to simply IGNORE messages with no logical arguments, so that little time is saved.
Thank you,
Regards, AVNagarathna
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