Re: [LIS-Forum] Article request - Good suggestion

16 Nov 2015

      Thank you Mr Sathyanarayana!

I too did post a separate mail about the CONTU guidelines, after searching
and locating the same. I have a question - I was not too clear about No 5

5.     No more than six copies of articles/chapters/small portions may be
made from a non-periodical (including a book) during the entire term of
copyright of the work

Is this for the requesting library or for the supplying library? (I assume
it is for the requesting library. Because a supplying library may get a
request for one or more articles from several sources)

And next... how do we get all our libraries to understand these, and follow
steps? I am sure some would know them, but it is important for all!

Regards

Vasumathi Sriganesh
QMed Knowledge Foundation
(Trust - Reg No: E-24663)
A-3, Shubham Centre, Cardinal Gracious Road
Chakala, Andheri East, Mumbai 400099
Tel: 91-22-40054474    Mob: +919867292230
Web: www.qmed.org.in http://www.qmedkf.org.in/   www.indianmedicalsites.in

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Sathya  wrote:
...
Dear Vasumathi
The "rule of 5" you refer to is about CONTU guidelines for ILL.  CONTU
guidelines.  CONTU is a peculiar acronym for the "National *Commission on
New Technological Uses *of Copyrighted Works". (
http://old.cni.org/docs/infopols/CONTU.html). Most  publishers agree for
ILL exchange of articles from e-journals under CONTU guidelines. This is
expressed in their license agreement either by default or by asking by the
library while signing license agreement.
Broadly, the following are the  guidelines of CONTU provision. (Reproduced
from:
https://www.copyright.com/Services/copyrightoncampus/content/ill_contu.html
 )
1.     CONTU Guidelines for copying from periodicals apply only to
materials less than five years old (referred to as part of the "rule of
five"). [For materials older than five years, standard copyright rule
applies]
2.     Up to five articles may be copied from a single periodical in one
calendar year under the ILL provision (referred to as part of the "rule of
five").
3.     A library with a subscription for a periodical, which is not
immediately available, may consider a copy obtained from another library as
if made from its own collection.
4.     All ILL requests must be accompanied by a copyright compliance
statement from the requesting library. The requesting library must maintain
records of all requests and of their fulfilment. These records must be
kept for three calendar years after the request has been made.
5.     No more than six copies of articles/chapters/small portions may be
made from a non-periodical (including a book) during the entire term of
copyright of the work.
6.     For copying beyond the CONTU Guidelines, the library may need to
obtain copyright permission directly from the copyright holder or from a
representative such as Copyright Clearance Center
http://www.copyright.com/ccc/viewPage.do?pageCode=ac1-n.
*N.V. Sathyanarayana*
*Informatics (India) Ltd, *
*Bangalore. India. *
On 14 November 2015 at 10:44, Vasumathi Sriganesh (QMed) <
vasu@qmedkf.org.in> wrote:
...
Asking for articles, by itself is not a violation of copyright practices.
(As long as it is for fair use, of course!)  I am a member of the Medical
Librarians' (USA) mailing list, where people do ask. But, the rule is that
they should have tried all other options (their DOCLINE - and more) and
only then ask.
Also there is something called Rule of 5.
While I do not know the exact rule, it is something to the effect that if
a
library asks for more than five articles from one journal title, for any
of
their readers, then, from the 6th article onwards, they need to pay the
copyright fee, or subscribe to the journal. It is the responsibility of
the
requesting library to ensure this
Also - they follow other rules that make it easy for those receiving the
requests. For eg - in the Subject line of the email - they write ILL:
[Citation] - where - they put in the citation in a std format - journal
abbrn, year;vol:page
And then in the body of the email, they put in the full citation and not
ONLY the link to the article (which is very difficult for the eye, in the
absence of the citation)
I believe we are in a position to create such rules after finding out the
specifics from other countries. I can find out from the Medlib-L list, and
if others can also find out and we arrive at certain rules, that would be
nice
Also - can we all do something to ensure that the NUCSSI holdings are
regularly updated, AND the libraries who have their data, make
arrangements
to answer email requests and supply articles? We could even arrive at a
reasonable fee per article, just to ensure that there is no unnecessary
overload.
It would be nice to have a constructive discussion on planning a right
future trend for this. And implement things step by step as soon as
possible
Vasumathi Sriganesh
QMed Knowledge Foundation
(Trust - Reg No: E-24663)
A-3, Shubham Centre, Cardinal Gracious Road
Chakala, Andheri East, Mumbai 400099
Tel: 91-22-40054474    Mob: +919867292230
Web: www.qmed.org.in http://www.qmedkf.org.in/
www.indianmedicalsites.in
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Anil K Tyagi 
wrote:
...
Dear Professionals
I also raised this issue earlier. Seeking articles this way is unethical
and not as per library practice. However. My suggestions was not
accepted
by mail admin. We should not support this practice which is clear
violation
of copyright. I am happy that issue was taken up now by seniors.
With regards
Dr Anil K Tyagi
Scientist 'G'
DESIDOC, DRDO
Delhi-110054
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On 12-Nov-2015 18:38,  wrote:
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Very good suggestion. Nowadays users are not bothered to give their
name
and organisation when seeking help. I think it is in bad taste and we
should not reply to such queries. Sometimes users ask very fundamental
questions that every library professional is expected to know. I think
there is something wrong with our current LIS education.
Koteswara Rao
Former librarian, UoH
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:19 AM -0800, "Manjunath K" <
manjunath@tapmi.edu.in> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Good to note that the topic is again coming for discussion. I had
posted
this several times on this forum requesting the professional's
signature
when they seek help from others.  While sending request, many
professional
don't mention their organization.
Many libraries may not be the members of Delnet... hence searching
union
catalog may be difficult. But professional who have membership with
DELNET
can do the search before posting and request the specific library for
the
help.
Many professionals simply forward the link without bothering to see
the
content of the request. It becomes the responsibility of the helping
person
to open the link and then look for related resources in their
databases.
Our professionals should exert the minimum effort of opening the link
and
copy the contents to the body of the mail. This will help
professionals
to
decide on type of resources to search in their databases without
opening
the link.
Along with Goudar and Manjunath, I too request our professionals to
open
the content of the link, check in union catalog/nearby libraries/ send
request to specific library with details of the papers in the body
itself
rather than just sending a link.
Finally, please add your signature in your mails so that others know
your
details while responding to your request. Your signature many times
may
yield good results.
Libraries who have not taken delnet membership can attempt to take it
as
it helps searching Union catalog when requests come from users.
Wish you happy Deepavali.
Manjunath
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From: lis-forum-bounces@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in [mailto:
lis-forum-bounces@ncsi.iisc.ernet.in] On Behalf Of G.K.MANJUNATH
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 11:24 AM
To: Ishwar Goudar
Cc: Harsha Maga; Khsla; LIS-Forum; Ravi Hullur
Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Article request - Good suggestion
One more suggestion. Professionals who need articles need to first
check
the online union catalogue of journals and identify where such
journals
are
available.
The request then may be sent to the specific library rather than
simply
posting the request on e-discussion forum.
Dr.G.K.Manjunath
       Chief Librarian
       Indira Gandhi Inst of Development Research
       Film City Road
       Santosh Nagar
       Goregaon(East )
       MUMBAI - 400 065
       India
                   Phone:        022-28416528
                   email:         gkm@igidr.ac.in
On Sun, 8 Nov 2015, Ishwar Goudar wrote:
...
A good suggestion by Vasumati.  Many a times we don't do basic home
work and simply post the requirements through Lis-Forum. Waste of
time
and effort for many.
"Access E-Resources for Academic and Research Excellence"
*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -*
Dr. I.R.N. Goudar
- Adjunct Professor, Mangalore University
- Visiting Professor Cum Library Adviser  Bangalore University
Library, BANGALORE - 560056
- Ex. Visiting Professor Cum Library Adviser, UoM, Mysore
- Ex. Scientist 'G' and Head, ICAST, NAL, Bangalore
- Ex. Dy Librarian, IITM, Chennai
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Vasumathi Sriganesh (QMed) <
vasu@qmedkf.org.in> wrote:
...
The article is available free online at
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.4161/21505594.2014.984567
(pdf
is also free)
A general tip - before asking on this forum, please try pasting the
title in Google, Google Scholar and Researchgate. Google and Google
scholar can get you the links to the full text, if free. If not,
very
often the author is on RG and can be requested for the article
Please teach these tips to your users too
Best wishes
Vasumathi Sriganesh
QMed Knowledge Foundation
(Trust - Reg No: E-24663)
A-3, Shubham Centre, Cardinal Gracious Road Chakala, Andheri East,
Mumbai 400099
Tel: 91-22-40054474    Mob: +919867292230
Web: www.qmed.org.in http://www.qmedkf.org.in/
www.indianmedicalsites.in
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:14 AM, shashi bhat <
shashilib@yahoo.co.in>
wrote:
> Dear Friends,One of our faculty is in need of the following
article
> for his research. If any one of you have access to the article,
> kindly
arrange
> to send.
> Virulence. 2015;6(3):216-22. doi: 10.4161/21505594.2014.984567.
> On the dynamics of root canal infections-what we understand and
what
> we don't.
> Zehnder M1, Belibasakis GN
>  With Regards,
>
> Mrs. Shashikala K
> Librarian,
> A.B. Shetty Memorial Institute of Dental Sciences, Constituent
> College of Nitte University, Deralakatte, Mangalore - 575018.
> Ph: 0824-2204572, 2204963 (ext.-234)
> Res: 0824-2202133
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