[LIS-Forum] Open Access Journals?

20 May 2006

      Based on my understanding, discussions and as per the details given by
Peter Suber on http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/overview.htm

Can we summarize the points as under? -
Features of Open Access:

A)    Free for User
i)          Users are free to quote or refer the text
ii)         They are free to download 
iii)         Users are free to add the downloaded text to their archive
iv)        As Online Access Literature is free of most copyright and
licensing restrictions, no permissions are required to make the
information freely available on users' platform, from any other platform

B)    Authors/ Publishers have to bear the cost
i)                    As an Author, if one has information but cannot
pay, then? Can he look for subsidy?
ii)                   A Publisher, who is either Commercial or
Governmental needs to fund the project. So, the finance will come from
where?
a)      Excess charging of Print Version? (That is possible in case of
established journals only)
b)      Subsidy? (Again available to established journal only)    OR
c)      Advertisements? (Again depends upon the Journal Standard)

Chandrima Roy

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Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:14:20 +0530
From: Sukhdev Singh <
http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum esukhdev at
gmail.com>

Who bears the cost of the author's intellectual inputs?!!  The same
should bear the cost of author's publication.

What is reported in scholarly journals? -- Research output.
Who does that research? -- Scientists / Scholars.

And Scientists / Scholars get salary for that. They need
infrastructure to work in. They work on Research Projects that cost
money.

Who bears all the cost?

Publication costs are just a fraction of the total cost of the
research output. So it makes sense to spend a bit extra to expose the
research results, gain maximum impact of it and build ground for
further research.

So funding agencies ( Govt. or Others) need to spend little extra to
publish the research / project outcome which they sponser. Public
funding agencies have their publication wings - they just need to
allow free / open access to their publications. Atleast to their
online versions. Indian Council for Medical Research is an example
which provides free access to their journal - Indian Journal of
Medical Research.

Well there are other models as followed by BioMed Central and PLoS.
Advertising revenues could be other.

Don't we have Free-to-Air TV Channels?
Hey! Do we pay for listening to FM Radio Channels? - Private or Public.

I would suggest -

--All publications consuming public money to produce should be
publicly accessible - at least their online versions.

--All publicly funded research should be mandated to be open-archived
by the author with in a time frame.

--All teaching / reseach institutions should set-up their
institutional repositories.

--Sukhdev Singh, NIC.
http://openmed.nic.in

Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 02:18:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: ranjit dharmapurikar <
http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum d_ranjit at
yahoo.com>

Dear Sir,
You have asked about the cost of open source journals.
who will bear the cost. Of course, the publisher,
agency, person who is putting the journal on the net
is required to bear the cost. Keeping the facility of
open source journals is a way of an advertisement.
Generally what I have observed that these open source
journals are very old. Whenevr they found that there
is not demand for such articles then they declear it
as an open source journal. At least with this open
source journals users will learn and will come to know
that such titled journals are available. So it is a
way of an advertisement. What I think. Like out dated
goods are sold by maximum discount for attracting the
customers towards new and fresh product. The same
story can be applicable with open source journals
R.G. Dharmapurikar

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Suber
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Date: Thu,
18 May 2006
14:14:20
+0530
From:
Sukhdev
Singh < http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum
esukhdev
at gmail.com
...
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Who bears the cost of the author's intellectual inputs?!!
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The same
should
bear the cost of author's publication.
�
What is reported in scholarly journals? -- Research output.
Who does that research? -- Scientists / Scholars.
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And Scientists / Scholars get salary for that. They need
infrastructure
to work in. They work on Research Projects that cost
money
.
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Who bears all the cost?
�
Publication costs are just a fraction of the total cost of the
research
output. So it makes sense to spend a bit extra to expose the
research
results, gain maximum impact of it and build ground for
further
research.
�
So funding agencies
( Govt
. or Others) need to spend little extra to
publish
the research / project outcome which they
sponser
. Public
funding
agencies have their publication wings - they just need to
allow
free / open access to their publications.
Atleast
to their
online
versions. Indian Council for Medical Research is an example
which
provides free access to their journal - Indian Journal of
Medical Research.
�
Well there are other models as followed by
BioMed
Central and
PLoS
.
Advertising revenues could be other.
�
Don't we have Free-to-Air TV Channels?
Hey! Do we pay for listening to FM Radio Channels? - Private or Public.
�
I would suggest -
�
--All publications consuming public money to produce should be
publicly
accessible - at least their online versions.
�
--All publicly funded research should be mandated to be open-archived
by
the author with in a time frame.
�
--All teaching /
reseach
institutions should set-up their
institutional
repositories.
�
--
Sukhdev
Singh, NIC.
http://openmed.nic.in http://openmed.nic.in
�
Date: Thu,
18 May 2006
02:18:16
-0700 (PDT)
From:
ranjit
dharmapurikar
< http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum
d_ranjit
at yahoo.com
...
�
Dear Sir,
You have asked about the cost of open source journals.
who
will bear the cost. Of course, the publisher,
agency
, person who is putting the journal on the net
is
required to bear the cost. Keeping the facility of
open
source journals is a way of an advertisement.
Generally what I have observed that these open source
journals
are very old.
Whenevr
they found that there
is
not demand for such articles then they
declear
it
as
an open source journal. At least with this open
source
journals users will learn and will come to know
that
such titled journals are available. So it is a
way
of an advertisement. What I think. Like out dated
goods
are sold by maximum discount for attracting the
customers
towards new and fresh product. The same
story
can be applicable with open source journals
R.G.
Dharmapurikar
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