Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:12:24 +0530 From: Vyasamoorthy@icicikp.com Request to moderator of Lis-forum: If contents are OK with you, please = permit the entire message with all forwarded messages - just this time ; = this would give the background needed for discussion. Thanks. = Vyasamoorthy, P Dear All, Please see postings of: Rajendra Babu, Maduresh Singhal, Mukesh Anand = quoted below. I have no dilemma on this issue. We should allow all who are likely to = benefit librarians' community and promote (I would not say protect) our = interests. After all we do depend upon vendors for supply of books = periodicals & documents. What is wrong if they join and get to know our = problems, perspectives and feelings? Things might change for the better. There are many occasions in Lis-Forum where requests for sourcing old = books, info on RFID, info on certain software etc came up; I have = forwarded them individually to suitable vendors for action. Enquirers = have benefited. If library suppliers are part of the forum they could = respond directly to individual's requirements -- if answering via forum = may be looked upon as 'commercial' activity. Moreover, we, in VIC act as providers of information, literature = searches, documents etc to our customers by procuring the same from = other sources including libraries, commercial book sellers, publishers = and online sources. As we act as intermediaries we have interests of = librarians (as we are librarians) and that of vendors as we are vendors = too. I do not find anything bad, unwelcome, un-holy about commercial = activities. We should shed this inhibition of allowing commercial = fellows into our fold. Government Institutions still have this "Us" and = "they" attitude strongly entrenched in them. This must go. However when = one section of the society tends to unnecessarily exploit the other to = their undue advantage then that has to be checked. This correction will = occur automatically as and when aberrations happen. Regards, Dr.P.Vyasamoorthy, Advisor, Virtual Information Centre,=20 ICICI Knowledge Park, Genome Valley, Turkapally, Shameerpet Mandal,=20 RR District, Hyderabad 500078 INDIA=20 Email: vyasamoorthy@icicikp.com=20 Phone - Office: +91(40)23480053 Fax: +91(40)23480007 Phone Residence: = +91(40)27846631=20 -----Original Message----- From: Madhuresh [mailto:madhuresh_s@aurigene.com] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:29 AM To: Babu Rajendra; G. K. Manjunath; VYASAMOORTHY /IKP/HYD; Prof. = N.Laxman Rao Subject: RE: GOC Rates for month of July' 2004 Dear Babu, I feel that announcing the GOC rates is not a commercial activity. It is = just information which may be useful for us. Now regarding the question of allowing vendors to become a member of = professional forum, I feel any one can become the member as it would be = difficult for Moderator to find out whether a person is a vendor or not, = however their postings can be moderated. Again, these vendors may be = useful for supplying the information if any professional member needs = it, e.g., if a professional want to implement RFID and s/he expressed = her/his desire in the forum, vendor may directly contact.=20 I have seen so many mails in various forums in which professionals have = promoted their own products specially books. I am not sure whether to = take this as a commercial activity or to announce their professional = growth and to make others aware about such products/books. I personally = feel that this could also be taken as informative announcement. But I am = interested to know the views of others regarding this. Regards. Madhuresh Singhal Electronic City, phase II, Hosur Road, Bangalore 560100 Phone 28521314-16 Ext.- 422 Mobile 98861 82822 E-mail: mailto:madhureshsinghal@yahoo.com madhureshsinghal@yahoo.com=20 http://nettalk2.tripod.com/=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Babu Rajendra [mailto:Rajendra.Babu@capco.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 6:18 PM To: G. K. Manjunath; Vyasamoorthy@icicikp.com; Prof. N.Laxman Rao Cc: Madhuresh Subject: RE: GOC Rates for month of July' 2004 Importance: High Dear all, I guess you remember me.=20 I am in professional dilemma after looking at Mr. Mukesh's mail. I was = thinking whom to talk to, so I thought that all the people in the list = are the people who have seen me except Mr. Manjunath, but any way I have = interacted to Manjunath over e-mail. Madhuresh is my Junior in NCSI. I feel, how feasible it is to allow vendors like Mr. Mukesh in the = professional forum for Librarians only. I would also explain where I am = coming from. As we professional librarians would be discussing lot of = day-to-day issues to professional help/advise/guidance and so on = (sometimes it might be about vendors too). I guess this is the major = reason we have established professional forums like LISFORUM and others = run by our own prefessionals/organizations. Such as NCSI, Dr. Laxman Rao = (sir, pl. recall our discussions @mysore University) and others. In this = scenario, I need your advise, would we be allowing vendors to subscribe = to the professional forums like this or not. If YES why and on what = grounds we should be? (since, I have also worked in Universal = Subscripition agency/Global INformation systems technology). Looking forward for your opinions. It's only for my personal = clarification and not to target any one concerned. Thanks, Babu. -----Original Message----- From: ++ Mukesh Anand ++ [mailto:mukesh@monitorinfo.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:54 PM To: ytv@godrej.com; vasu@qmedin.com; IGIDR Shyam Prasad Pujar; G. K. = Manjunath; farooque@in.ibm.com; Bank Of Baroda Mumbai Mr. Dharmendra = Sachan; Babu Rajendra Cc: Vyasamoorthy@icicikp.com; smitac_in@yahoo.com; Samdarshi Pali; = rajeshbcd@rediffmail.com; Prof. N.Laxman Rao; prakash_inp@yahoo.com; = pharmalibrarians@yahoogroups.com; nub@iucaa.ernet.in; Nirma University = H.Anil Kumar; Menon KPR; Madhuresh Subject: GOC Rates for month of July' 2004 GOC Rates for month of July' 2004 USD : Rs. 48.10 UKP : Rs. 88.00 EURO : Rs. 58.30 S Fr. : Rs. 38.60 Mukesh Anand Director - Marketing Monitor Information Services # 203, Moghal Marc Ratan Complex Narayanguda, Hyderabad - 500 029 India T: 040-55787065 / 040-27552390 F: +91-40-27569299 http://www.monitorinfo.com Importers n Distributors of Technical Publications =20 ************************************************************************