Re: [LIS-Forum] Fw: Costs of setting up an institutional OA archive

Still, I feel the cost provided by Mr Richard Poynder is high. I have two reasons to believe it: 1. The Setup would be just an add-on to the existing infrastructure of the Institution. 2. The manpower in India, especially the one responsible for running the OA would be much cheaper than in UK. ---Sukhdev Singh, NIC. On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:47:41 +0530, sathya wrote:

DON'T FORGET TO COST THE "TIME OF PEOPLE" IN REAL TERMS.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Subbiah Arunachalam" To: ; "Krishnan" ; ; Cc: ; ; ; "Leslie Chan" ; "EPT" Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:40 AM Subject: [LIS-Forum] Fw: Costs of setting up an institutional OA archive

Friends:

What do you think it would cost to set up and run an interoperable open access institutional archive (similar to the IISc eprints archive) in your institution? Mr Richard Poynder of the UK has quoted some figures, but they appear to me as needlessly high. I welcome your estimates.

Arun

----- Original Message ----- From: mailto:EPT@biostrat.demon.co.uk EPT To: mailto:aotg20@dsl.pipex.com Richard Poynder ; mailto:arun@mssrf.res.in 'Subbiah Arunachalam' ; mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk ; mailto:peters@earlham.edu peters@earlham.edu ; mailto:chan@utsc.utoronto.ca 'Leslie Chan' ; mailto:richard.poynder@journalist.co.uk richard.poynder@journalist.co.uk Cc: mailto:aswan@keyperspectives.co.uk aswan@keyperspectives.co.uk Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:37 PM Subject: Re: Costs of setting up an institutional OA archive All,

We have to be very careful we are comparing apples with apples. You could cost the setting up figure by including every institutional contribution that the accountants demand (the obvious hardware and staff time, but also including institutional overheads, departmental contributions to general services, and the many other bits and pieces that costing exercises could require), or you could cost it at the very basic level where the work is done as a student exercise or is absorbed in some on-going project and the archive uses pre-existing hardware with spare capacity. I am astounded by some of the figures quoted and am certain that organisations in developing and emerging countries that are fully aware of the benefts of OA to their scientific development will do it within their existing budgets. Let's hear it from India, Namibia, Mexico, Brazil and China.

Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: mailto:aotg20@dsl.pipex.com Richard Poynder To: mailto:arun@mssrf.res.in 'Subbiah Arunachalam' ; mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk ; mailto:peters@earlham.edu peters@earlham.edu ; mailto:chan@utsc.utoronto.ca 'Leslie Chan' ; mailto:EPT@biostrat.demon.co.uk 'EPT' ; mailto:richard.poynder@journalist.co.uk richard.poynder@journalist.co.uk Cc: mailto:aswan@keyperspectives.co.uk aswan@keyperspectives.co.uk Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:47 AM Subject: RE: Costs of setting up an institutional OA archive Hi Arun,

Absolutely, the more data collected on costs the better I would think. The figures I quoted come from a study done by Alma Swan. See: ( http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/4018.html http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/4018.html ).

The full report is at http://www.keyperspectives.co.uk/OpenAccessArchive/E-prints_delivery_mod el.pdf http://www.keyperspectives.co.uk/OpenAccessArchive/E-prints_delivery_mod el.pdf .

I would certainly be interested in details of any similar studies.

Best wishes,

Richard Poynder

Friends:

Richard Poynder says in his article in Information Today : "Indeed, libraries are finding that they have to not only continue paying traditional journal subscriptions, but they have to pay OA membership fees too. And to cap it all off, many are also being asked to create institutional repositories-a process costing anywhere from $7,000 to $2.5 million in setup fees and at least $40,000 a year in running costs." Are these figures OK? We should collect data from all the institutional archives operating now (in the world as a whole) as well as look at the costs of centralised archives such as Cornell's arXiv. At least in India, setting up of an institutional archive would cost much less. Dr T B Rajashekar of NCSI-IISc, Dr A R D Prasad of DRTC-ISI, Dr D K Sahu of MedKnow, Ms Naina Panditha of NIC, Mr Sreekumar of IIMK, Prof. B Viswanathan of Catlysis Society of India, and Dr Krishnan of NCL may kindly comment on this point. Regards. Arun

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