[LIS-Forum] Article request - Good suggestion

Vasumathi Sriganesh (QMed) vasu at qmedkf.org.in
Mon Nov 16 16:52:00 IST 2015 

Thank you Mr Sathyanarayana!

I too did post a separate mail about the CONTU guidelines, after searching
and locating the same. I have a question - I was not too clear about No 5

5.     No more than six copies of articles/chapters/small portions may be
made from a non-periodical (including a book) during the entire term of
copyright of the work

Is this for the requesting library or for the supplying library? (I assume
it is for the requesting library. Because a supplying library may get a
request for one or more articles from several sources)

And next... how do we get all our libraries to understand these, and follow
steps? I am sure some would know them, but it is important for all!

Regards

Vasumathi Sriganesh
QMed Knowledge Foundation
(Trust - Reg No: E-24663)
A-3, Shubham Centre, Cardinal Gracious Road
Chakala, Andheri East, Mumbai 400099
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On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Sathya <sathya19 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Vasumathi
>
> The "rule of 5" you refer to is about CONTU guidelines for ILL.  CONTU
> guidelines.  CONTU is a peculiar acronym for the "National *Commission on
> New Technological Uses *of Copyrighted Works". (
> http://old.cni.org/docs/infopols/CONTU.html). Most  publishers agree for
> ILL exchange of articles from e-journals under CONTU guidelines. This is
> expressed in their license agreement either by default or by asking by the
> library while signing license agreement.
> Broadly, the following are the  guidelines of CONTU provision. (Reproduced
> from:
> https://www.copyright.com/Services/copyrightoncampus/content/ill_contu.html
>  )
>
> 1.     CONTU Guidelines for copying from periodicals apply only to
> materials less than five years old (referred to as part of the "rule of
> five"). [For materials older than five years, standard copyright rule
> applies]
>
> 2.     Up to five articles may be copied from a single periodical in one
> calendar year under the ILL provision (referred to as part of the "rule of
> five").
>
> 3.     A library with a subscription for a periodical, which is not
> immediately available, may consider a copy obtained from another library as
> if made from its own collection.
>
> 4.     All ILL requests must be accompanied by a copyright compliance
> statement from the requesting library. The requesting library must maintain
> records of all requests and of their fulfilment. These records must be
> kept for three calendar years after the request has been made.
>
> 5.     No more than six copies of articles/chapters/small portions may be
> made from a non-periodical (including a book) during the entire term of
> copyright of the work.
>
> 6.     For copying beyond the CONTU Guidelines, the library may need to
> obtain copyright permission directly from the copyright holder or from a
> representative such as Copyright Clearance Center
> <http://www.copyright.com/ccc/viewPage.do?pageCode=ac1-n>.
>
>
> *N.V. Sathyanarayana*
> *Informatics (India) Ltd, *
> *Bangalore. India. *
>
>
>
> On 14 November 2015 at 10:44, Vasumathi Sriganesh (QMed) <
> vasu at qmedkf.org.in> wrote:
>
>> Asking for articles, by itself is not a violation of copyright practices.
>> (As long as it is for fair use, of course!)  I am a member of the Medical
>> Librarians' (USA) mailing list, where people do ask. But, the rule is that
>> they should have tried all other options (their DOCLINE - and more) and
>> only then ask.
>>
>> Also there is something called Rule of 5.
>>
>> While I do not know the exact rule, it is something to the effect that if
>> a
>> library asks for more than five articles from one journal title, for any
>> of
>> their readers, then, from the 6th article onwards, they need to pay the
>> copyright fee, or subscribe to the journal. It is the responsibility of
>> the
>> requesting library to ensure this
>>
>> Also - they follow other rules that make it easy for those receiving the
>> requests. For eg - in the Subject line of the email - they write ILL:
>> [Citation] - where - they put in the citation in a std format - journal
>> abbrn, year;vol:page
>> And then in the body of the email, they put in the full citation and not
>> ONLY the link to the article (which is very difficult for the eye, in the
>> absence of the citation)
>>
>> I believe we are in a position to create such rules after finding out the
>> specifics from other countries. I can find out from the Medlib-L list, and
>> if others can also find out and we arrive at certain rules, that would be
>> nice
>>
>> Also - can we all do something to ensure that the NUCSSI holdings are
>> regularly updated, AND the libraries who have their data, make
>> arrangements
>> to answer email requests and supply articles? We could even arrive at a
>> reasonable fee per article, just to ensure that there is no unnecessary
>> overload.
>>
>> It would be nice to have a constructive discussion on planning a right
>> future trend for this. And implement things step by step as soon as
>> possible
>>
>>
>> Vasumathi Sriganesh
>> QMed Knowledge Foundation
>> (Trust - Reg No: E-24663)
>> A-3, Shubham Centre, Cardinal Gracious Road
>> Chakala, Andheri East, Mumbai 400099
>> Tel: 91-22-40054474    Mob: +919867292230
>> Web: www.qmed.org.in <http://www.qmedkf.org.in/>
>> www.indianmedicalsites.in
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Anil K Tyagi <tyagiakdr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Professionals
>> >
>> > I also raised this issue earlier. Seeking articles this way is unethical
>> > and not as per library practice. However. My suggestions was not
>> accepted
>> > by mail admin. We should not support this practice which is clear
>> violation
>> > of copyright. I am happy that issue was taken up now by seniors.
>> > With regards
>> >
>> > Dr Anil K Tyagi
>> > Scientist 'G'
>> > DESIDOC, DRDO
>> > Delhi-110054
>> >
>> > DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this message may be privileged
>> and
>> > confidential. If you are NOT the addressee, please return this to its
>> > sender and delete it from your files.
>> > On 12-Nov-2015 18:38, <mk-rao at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Very good suggestion. Nowadays users are not bothered to give their
>> name
>> > > and organisation when seeking help. I think it is in bad taste and we
>> > > should not reply to such queries. Sometimes users ask very fundamental
>> > > questions that every library professional is expected to know. I think
>> > > there is something wrong with our current LIS education.
>> > >
>> > > Koteswara Rao
>> > >
>> > > Former librarian, UoH
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Sent by Outlook for Android
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:19 AM -0800, "Manjunath K" <
>> > > manjunath at tapmi.edu.in> wrote:
>> > > Dear colleagues,
>> > > Good to note that the topic is again coming for discussion. I had
>> posted
>> > > this several times on this forum requesting the professional's
>> signature
>> > > when they seek help from others.  While sending request, many
>> > professional
>> > > don't mention their organization.
>> > > Many libraries may not be the members of Delnet... hence searching
>> union
>> > > catalog may be difficult. But professional who have membership with
>> > DELNET
>> > > can do the search before posting and request the specific library for
>> the
>> > > help.
>> > > Many professionals simply forward the link without bothering to see
>> the
>> > > content of the request. It becomes the responsibility of the helping
>> > person
>> > > to open the link and then look for related resources in their
>> databases.
>> > > Our professionals should exert the minimum effort of opening the link
>> and
>> > > copy the contents to the body of the mail. This will help
>> professionals
>> > to
>> > > decide on type of resources to search in their databases without
>> opening
>> > > the link.
>> > >
>> > > Along with Goudar and Manjunath, I too request our professionals to
>> open
>> > > the content of the link, check in union catalog/nearby libraries/ send
>> > > request to specific library with details of the papers in the body
>> itself
>> > > rather than just sending a link.
>> > >
>> > > Finally, please add your signature in your mails so that others know
>> your
>> > > details while responding to your request. Your signature many times
>> may
>> > > yield good results.
>> > > Libraries who have not taken delnet membership can attempt to take it
>> as
>> > > it helps searching Union catalog when requests come from users.
>> > >
>> > > Wish you happy Deepavali.
>> > >
>> > > Manjunath
>> > > --------------
>> > > Dr. Manjunatha, K
>> > > |Chief Librarian| T.A. Pai Management; Institute| Manipal - 576104|
>> Udupi
>> > > Dist.| Karnataka| India|
>> > > |Ph: 0820-2701105(Off), 2575161 (Res) | e- manjunath at tapmi.edu.in ;
>> > > manjunathak at gmail.com |
>> > > http://www.manjunathakeralapura.weebly.com
>> > > ------------
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: lis-forum-bounces at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in [mailto:
>> > > lis-forum-bounces at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in] On Behalf Of G.K.MANJUNATH
>> > > Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 11:24 AM
>> > > To: Ishwar Goudar
>> > > Cc: Harsha Maga; Khsla; LIS-Forum; Ravi Hullur
>> > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Article request - Good suggestion
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > One more suggestion. Professionals who need articles need to first
>> check
>> > > the online union catalogue of journals and identify where such
>> journals
>> > are
>> > > available.
>> > >
>> > > The request then may be sent to the specific library rather than
>> simply
>> > > posting the request on e-discussion forum.
>> > >
>> > >        Dr.G.K.Manjunath
>> > >        Chief Librarian
>> > >        Indira Gandhi Inst of Development Research
>> > >        Film City Road
>> > >        Santosh Nagar
>> > >        Goregaon(East )
>> > >        MUMBAI - 400 065
>> > >        India
>> > >                    Phone:        022-28416528
>> > >                    email:         gkm at igidr.ac.in
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, 8 Nov 2015, Ishwar Goudar wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > A good suggestion by Vasumati.  Many a times we don't do basic home
>> > > > work and simply post the requirements through Lis-Forum. Waste of
>> time
>> > > > and effort for many.
>> > > >
>> > > > "Access E-Resources for Academic and Research Excellence"
>> > > >
>> > > > *- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -*
>> > > > Dr. I.R.N. Goudar
>> > > > - Adjunct Professor, Mangalore University
>> > > > - Visiting Professor Cum Library Adviser  Bangalore University
>> > > > Library, BANGALORE - 560056
>> > > > - Ex. Visiting Professor Cum Library Adviser, UoM, Mysore
>> > > > - Ex. Scientist 'G' and Head, ICAST, NAL, Bangalore
>> > > > - Ex. Dy Librarian, IITM, Chennai
>> > > > - Ex. Scientist (Information), IICT, Hyderabad
>> > > > - Fulbright Scholar, Univ. of Michigan and Columbia Univ, USA
>> > > > (1995-96)
>> > > > - British Council Scholar (1982-83)
>> > > >  E-mail: goudarishwar at gmail.com
>> > > >  Tel: 080-23215510
>> > > >  Mob: 91+9611165781 (If not reachable pl try land line)
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Vasumathi Sriganesh (QMed) <
>> > > > vasu at qmedkf.org.in> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> The article is available free online at
>> > > >>
>> > > >> http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.4161/21505594.2014.984567
>> (pdf
>> > > >> is also free)
>> > > >>
>> > > >> A general tip - before asking on this forum, please try pasting the
>> > > >> title in Google, Google Scholar and Researchgate. Google and Google
>> > > >> scholar can get you the links to the full text, if free. If not,
>> very
>> > > >> often the author is on RG and can be requested for the article
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Please teach these tips to your users too
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Best wishes
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Vasumathi Sriganesh
>> > > >> QMed Knowledge Foundation
>> > > >> (Trust - Reg No: E-24663)
>> > > >> A-3, Shubham Centre, Cardinal Gracious Road Chakala, Andheri East,
>> > > >> Mumbai 400099
>> > > >> Tel: 91-22-40054474    Mob: +919867292230
>> > > >> Web: www.qmed.org.in <http://www.qmedkf.org.in/>
>> > > >> www.indianmedicalsites.in
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:14 AM, shashi bhat <
>> shashilib at yahoo.co.in>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> Dear Friends,One of our faculty is in need of the following
>> article
>> > > >>> for his research. If any one of you have access to the article,
>> > > >>> kindly
>> > > >> arrange
>> > > >>> to send.
>> > > >>> Virulence. 2015;6(3):216-22. doi: 10.4161/21505594.2014.984567.
>> > > >>> On the dynamics of root canal infections-what we understand and
>> what
>> > > >>> we don't.
>> > > >>> Zehnder M1, Belibasakis GN
>> > > >>>  With Regards,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Mrs. Shashikala K
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