From haravu at newgenlib.com Sun Mar 1 06:52:01 2009 From: haravu at newgenlib.com (Jai Haravu) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:22:01 -0800 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Survey of Library Automation systems in India Message-ID: Dear Members of Lis-Forum The Trust, Kesavan Inst. of Information and Knowledge Management (KIIKM) in association with Information Professional, a web site for professionals is conducting a brief emailed-survey of library automation in India. The survey instrument was already emailed to a number of professionals but the response so far has been poor. By this request, I would be grateful for librarians who have implemented one or other library software including software from overseas to please download the survey questionnaire from: www.kiikm.org/Survey_of_Indian_ILS.doc The filled-in form may kindly be returned to me as email attachment to haravu at newgenlib.com. Thank you for your cooperation. 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Skills Development for Contemporary LIS Professionals ? Date: 07 March 2009 ? Organized by ? Library and Information Centre K.S.Rangasamy College of Arts and Science KSR Kalvi Nagar, Tiruchengode - 637 215 ? Programme Schedule 09.30 am??-?Registration 10.00 am -10.45 am?-?Inauguration 10.45 am-11.00 am?-?Tea 11.00 am-12.15 pm?-?Session I 12.15 pm-01.30 pm?-?Session II 01.30 pm-02.15 pm?-?Lunch 02.15 pm-03.15 pm?-?Session III 03.15 pm-03.30 pm?-?Tea 03.30 pm-04.30 pm?-?Session IV 04.30 pm - 05.00 pm?-?Valediction 05.00 pm??????????????? -???? ?Inauguration of SALIS Local Chapter About the Workshop ? The workshop is intended to discuss the various aspects of skills development which are necessarily required for the contemporary Library and Information Science professionals. ? Areas Covered *?Managerial Skills Development *?IT Skills Development *?Soft Skills Development Target Audience ? ? Resource Persons ? President - SALIS, Chennai. Dr. S. Muralidhar Scientist 'E', Head - TIRC, CVRDE, Chennai. Dr. J. Domnic Associate Chief Librarian, Karunya University Coimbatore. Mr. R. Lokanatha Gupta Director, Vasavi Academy of Excellence Coimbatore. Working Library'and Information Science professionals in all kinds of Libraries and other interested professionals. ? Registration Fee ? Professionals?Rs. 150/- Students/Scholars?Rs. 100/- Registration fee includes working lunch, refreshment and workshop kit. Payment ? DD should be drawn in favour of 'Principal, K.S.R. College of Arts and Science' payable at Thiruchengode. It should be sent to the Co-ordinator on or before 05/03/2009. Contact us at ? For further details contact: Lt. S. MANIKANDAN (Librarian cum NCC Officer) Workshop Co-ordinator K.S.Rangasamy?? College of Arts and Science Tiruchengode - 637 215 Mobile:? 99420-20895 E-mail: ksrcaslib at gmail.com Office?: 04288 - 274741 (4 lines) Extn.: 611/612 Mobile?: 99420 - 20895 (Mr. S. Manikandan) 98436 - 20382 (Mr. S. Kumar) 90472 - 44545 (Mr. A. Velayutham) From mailman at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Mon Mar 2 11:50:36 2009 From: mailman at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in (Mailing List Admin) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:50:36 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Exploring a ~Deep Web~ That Google Can~Rt Grasp ! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:26:00 +0530 From: shweta Dear All Season Greetiings!! I found this intersting article hope you all like it. Beyond those trillion pages lies an even vaster Web of hidden data: financial information, shopping catalogs, flight schedules, medical research and all kinds of other material stored in databases that remain largely invisible to search engines. Now a new breed of technologies is taking shape that will extend the reach of search engines into the Web?s hidden corners. When that happens, it will do more than just improve the quality of search results ? it may ultimately reshape the way many companies do business online. For more information you can visit the following link. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/23/technology/internet/23search.html?_r=1&ref=technology Best Regards, Shweta "Attitude is a small thing that makes big difference...!" From gprasad at nal.res.in Mon Mar 2 14:19:28 2009 From: gprasad at nal.res.in (Ramachandran Guruprasad) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:19:28 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] 6th Endowment Lecture Series on Digital Libraries, DOS, LIS, Univ. Mysore, 6/3/09. 3.30 p.m. Message-ID: <49AB9D98.3020601@css.nal.res.in> To all the Library Professionals across the Country and former Alumni of the Department of Studies, Library and Information Science, University of Mysore. ======================================= University of Mysore, Department of Library and Information Science jointly with M./s Informatics Ltd., are organizing the 6^th Endowment Lecture Series on Digital Libraries Dr Khaiser Nikam, Chairperson, Dept. of Studies, Library and Information Science and Sri B J Hosmat, Registrar would be the overall controlling officers of the function. * About The Event?* Date and Time: 6^th March 2009, 3.30 P.M. Venue: Rani Bahadur Auditorium, Bahadur Institute of Management Sciences, Manasagangothri, Mysore ? 570 006. The most interesting item of this year?s program is an invited talk by Mr Chintan Mehta, Director, India Incubation ?Cellar? Yahoo India, Research and Development, Bangalore who would be delivering his lecture on ?Managing Web Innovations?. Prof. K Chidananda Gowda, Former Vice-Chancellor, Kuvempu University has kindly agreed to preside over the function. Cultural programme by Smt. Sheea Sridhar and Group follows after the lecture. * Uniqueness of this Year?s Event?* This year?s Endowment Lecture (6-3-09) is unique and would be concluding with a pleasant note, as 7 March 2009 happens to the 89^th Annual Convocation of the Mysore University. The meritorious students would be receiving their gold medals and scroll of honour from none other than the Hon?ble Governor of Mysore. Sharing the dais with the Hon?ble Governor would be Prof. V G Talwar, the present Vice Chancellor of the Mysore University to personally felicitate all the degree awardees. Hence, kindly consider this as my personal invitation to all the present and old students of the DOS, LIS and all my professional LIS elsewhere in the country to attend this endowment lecture in large numbers, to be followed by the 89^th Annual Convocation of the Mysore University, the next day and make the two respective functions a grand success. For further details, kindly contact: Dr.(Mrs) Khaiser Nikam MLISc, PhD & MBA Chairperson/Reader Department of Library and Information Science University of Mysore Mysore-570 006 Karnataka INDIA Cell:98453 28672 91-821-2415202(R) 2419399(O) ========================== Posted by R Guruprasad, Scientist, NAL to appear in LIS-Forum -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Certificate course in Hardware & Networking in Linux/ UNIX environment *2.Information Scientist (1 Post)* (Scale of Pay: Rs. 8000-275-13200)Essential Qualification & Experience 1. Master/Bachelor degree in Library Science/ Information Science Documentation 2. Master/ Bachelor/ Diploma Degree in Computer science/applications 3. At least three years work experience in Digital / Automated Library with Networking and Linux/Unix environment Desirable 1. Exposure to any corporate library software companies 2. Certification course on Hardware, Software and Networking in Linux/ UNIX environment *3.Library and Inf. Assistant (2 Post)* Scale of Pay: Rs. 5500-175-9000 Essential Qualification & Experience: 1. Master degree in Library Science / Information Science Documentation 2. At least three years exposure to Digital / Automated Library Desirable 1. PD Diploma in Computer applications/ Library automation and Networking 2. Knowledge on Hardware, Software Networking in Linux/ UNIX environment *4.Library Attendant (10 Post)* Consolidated Pay: Rs. 4000 Essential Qualification & Experience: 1. BLISc or Diploma Course in Library Science 2. Knowledge on Computer applications 3. At least one year experience in any library *5.Library Trainees (5 Trainees)* Consolidated Pay: Rs. 5000 Essential Qualification & Experience: 1. Master degree in Library Science/ Information Science Documentation 2. Knowledge on Computer applications Candidates are requested to bring all original marks sheets, experience certificate along with one set of photocopy at the time of interview. For further details contact the Registrar. No TA/DA will be provided for attending the interview. Date: 12th February 2009 Registrar Mukesh Kumar Jha Library Trainee BHU (central Library) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090302/66c91623/attachment-0001.html From dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 15:36:27 2009 From: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com (DINESH SIDDAIAH) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:06:27 +0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Intellectual Property Law Blog Message-ID: <62c911520903020206l608f98b4s6ec117f1cc67944c@mail.gmail.com> Dear Friends, Intellectual Property Law Blog This weblog http://www.intellectualpropertylawblog.com/ may be very useful for up-to-date information on intellectual property law. Some of important topies covered are Copyrights, digital media, First Amendment, IP and technology transactions, Patents, Trade secrets etc. Thanking You, Dinesh -- Dr. Dinesh K. S. MLISc., Ph.D. Selection Grade Librarian, Nagarjuna College of Engineering & Technology, Devanahalli, Bengaluru - 562 110. Ph: +91-9845102382, Email: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Blog: ksdinesh.blogspot.com, Official Blog: libraryofncet.blogspot.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Chief Guests: Mr. Friedrich Rahn, Deputy Consul General Consulate of the Federal Republic of Germany, Bangalore Prof. Siraj Hasan, Director, Indian Institute of Astrophysics, Bangalore and President, Karnataka Chapter of the Alexander von Humboldt Foundation Date: Friday March 6, 2009 Time: 6.30 p.m. Venue: Goethe-Institut/Max Mueller Bhavan, 716 CMH Road, Indiranagar 1st Stage, Bangalore 560 038 Programme: Welcome speech by Dr. Evelin Hust, Director Introduction to the Library by Mr. Sheshagiri Kulkarni, Librarian Keynote Address by Mr. Friedrich Rahn Inaugural Address by Prof. Siraj Hasan Presentation by students of the Bhavan Choreographed animation of the Library space by the Stem Dance Kampni Ceremonial Inauguration of the Library Reception About us: The Goethe Institut/Max Mueller Bhavan, an important landmark on the thriving cultural map of Bangalore, is dedicated to fostering intercultural cooperation between India and the Federal Republic of Germany. This is accomplished through German language courses and activities, cultural programmes and the Library services. The Library at the Goethe-Institut/Max Mueller Bhavan is a vibrant centre of activity not only for language students but also for all those associated with or interested in Germany and German culture. With its thematically diverse collection of more than 4000 print and audio-visual media, the Library is a treasure trove of information on contemporary Germany. Housed in a bright, cheerful environment that invites reading, learning and cultural interactions. Ideal for students, teachers, translators, people visiting Germany, lovers of art and culture. We also offer various information services such as web-based quarterly newsletters, literary events and Topics and Trends, a regular update on a specific topic from the German cultural scene, supported by specially procured media. We look forward to welcoming you at the Bhavan on March 6th, 2009. Best regards, Sheshagiri Kulkarni Librarian Goethe-Institut/Max Mueller Bhavan 716 CMH Road Indiranagar 1st Stage Bangalore 560 038 Ph: +91 80 2520 5305/06/07/08-203 Fax: +91 80 2520 5309 kulkarni at bangalore.goethe.org www.goethe.de/bangalore www.goethe.de/india -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From gprasad at nal.res.in Mon Mar 2 17:49:29 2009 From: gprasad at nal.res.in (Ramachandran Guruprasad) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:49:29 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] IInd Reminder: NWNG2009: National Workshop, DOS, LIS, Mysore: 26-29 March 2009 Message-ID: <49ABCED1.6020200@css.nal.res.in> Dear LIS-Forum Friends, Colleagues and Professional Library and Information Science Scholars in India and Abroad. NWNG2009: National Workshop on NewGenLib Open Source- Integrated Library System (OS-ILS): 26 ? 29 March 2009 http://nwng2009.synthasite.com/ As you are kindly aware that the University of Mysore established in the year 1816 has been immensely responsible for the spread of higher education ever since the days of the erstwhile Mysore State. Being accredited as one the best Universities by the NAAC recently, it has also been bestowed with a special grant by the Ministry of Human Resources Development to lift the quality of higher education to even greater heights of intellectual proficiency. The Department of Library and Information Science came into existence during 1965. Supported by a SAP-UGC grant, it has been successfully running MLISc, M.Phil. and Ph.D. programmes over the last 44 years. In its rich history of 45 years, the department has organized several national and international seminars and workshops. The Department of Library and Information Science in association with UGC-SAP is now planning a National Workshop on NewGenLIB Open Source Integrated Library System (OS-ILS) between 26 ? 29 March 2009. The main purpose of the workshop is to impart practical training in automation, house-keeping activities to library professionals using the NewGenLib OS-ILS. The last date for registration is 15 March 2009. Avoid last minute disappointments due to late registration. For further details, log onto the following URL: http://nwng2009.synthasite.com/ For any other specific information that you may wish to know, please post your email to: khaiser.nikam at gmail.com Or Call: Dr.(Mrs) Khaiser Nikam MLISc,PhD & MBA Chairperson/Reader Department of Library and Information Science University of Mysore Mysore-570 006 Karnataka INDIA Cell:98453 28672 Cell:9342593105 91-821-241520299(R) 2419399(O) ===================================== Information Posted by R Guruprasad, Ph.D. Research Scholar, University of Mysore And Scientist, KTMD, National Aerospace Laboratories, Bangalore. ===================== -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gprasad.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 393 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090302/785bc0e5/attachment.vcf From jagtar.kindu at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 05:42:16 2009 From: jagtar.kindu at gmail.com (Jagtar Singh) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 05:42:16 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Kindly suggest a theme for the IATLIS National Conference 2009: Message-ID: <41e21fb90903021612i44b975b6n241fba606b45958f@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, Kindly spare your valuable time to suggest us the theme for the IATLIS National Conference 2009 to be held during 2009. We shall wait for your valuable suggestions for two weeks before finalizing the theme of the conference. We are also in the process of publishing the Dec-Jan Issue of the IATLIS Communications. Please mail us the news items of professional interest to be included in this issue. -- Dr. Jagtar Singh, President, Indian Association of Teachers of Library and Information Science (IATLIS) Department of Library and Information Science, Arts Block - 1, Punjabi University, Patiala Pin - 147 002 (India) Email: jagtar.kindu at gmail.com Tel: +91 (0)175 304 6462 & 304 6179 (Work) +91 (0)175 228 2727 (Home) Fax: +91 (0)175 228 3073 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090303/ea0c70e3/attachment.html From francisaloor at yahoo.com Tue Mar 3 12:27:45 2009 From: francisaloor at yahoo.com (Aloor Thomas Francis) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:27:45 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Francis - PhD Open Defence Seminar at Cochin University In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <12494.77832.qm@web94805.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Dear friends, This is to inform that Open Defence Seminar in respect of my PhD Research is scheduled to be held at 11.00 am on 10-03-2009 (Tuesday) in the Department of Computer Applications, Cochin University of Science and Technology. The topic for research is, ?Re-engineering and Re-defining University Libraries in the context of modern Information and Communication Technologies?. All students, professionals and teachers in library, computer and management sciences, especially those from Kerala and adjoining regions of Kerala, are invited to the programme. Please convey this invitation to your friends. Yours faithfully, A.T. FRANCIS HEAD, LIBRARY COLLEGE OF HORTICULTURE KERALA AGRICULTURAL UNIVERSITY THRISSUR - 680 656, INDIA francisaloor at yahoo.com francisaloor at gmailcom ? ? 09496839409 (m) 0487-2375816 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From mysjha at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 12:33:13 2009 From: mysjha at gmail.com (mukesh jha) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:33:13 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Vacancy in IIIT, Allahabad Message-ID: Indian Institute Of Inforamtion Technology, Allahabad Invited for the post of 1. Deputy Librarian: 1 post (UR) Scale:12000-18300 2.Library-Information -Assistant: 2 post (UR) Scale:5500-9000 3.Technical Assistant 10 post(7UR, 2OBC,1SC)5000-8000 The details of the Qualifications, Reservations as per Govt. of India rules, Format of Application and other terms and conditions are avilable at Institute *Website: **www.iiita.ac.in* . The Application be submitted on prescribed Format along with the Demand Draft of *Rs.300(Rs.150 for SC/ST/OBC)* in Favour of " *I.I.I.T., Allahabad" payable at Allahabad *for each post sepatately to the undersigned by March 27, 2009.Incomplete application will not be entertained. *Source*:Hindustan 3rd March on Bottom of No.7 page With Regards Mukesh Kumar Jha MLISc, BHU 2006-08 Library Trainee BHU (Central Library) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090303/3e65b61d/attachment.html From dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 11:28:24 2009 From: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com (DINESH SIDDAIAH) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 05:58:24 +0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Flexible, Bouncy Electronic Books in Market soon Message-ID: <62c911520903022158r4c83ca25geee9b755ce5380a5@mail.gmail.com> Dear Friends, Flexible, Bouncy Electronic Books in Market soon Plastic logic, a display technology Company, Cambridge, UK announced recently that it will launch first flexible electronic book. In this e-book screen breakage is the number one complaint with today's e-reader technology. The device will have wireless internet connection and a touch screen, allowing use of a virtual keyboard for annotating text. This e-book contains printing polymer transistors onto a layer of bendy plastic. The two most popular e-books on the market today are Sony reader and Amazon Kindle. Source: www.newscientist.com/section.tech, New Scientist, Vo. 201(2696) p. 19 Thanking You, Dinesh -- Dr. Dinesh K. S. MLISc., Ph.D. Selection Grade Librarian, Nagarjuna College of Engineering & Technology, Devanahalli, Bengaluru - 562 110. Ph: +91-9845102382, Email: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Blog: ksdinesh.blogspot.com, Official Blog: libraryofncet.blogspot.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090303/16bba4c6/attachment-0001.html From vijayakumar71 at yahoo.co.in Tue Mar 3 16:52:13 2009 From: vijayakumar71 at yahoo.co.in (Vijayakumara) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:52:13 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Birla Institute of Technology requires library professionals Message-ID: <400054.40995.qm@web7704.mail.in.yahoo.com> Dear All, ? Prospective candidates are invited for walk-in-interview on 6th April 2009 at 10.00 AM at Central Library for the following posts ? 1. Assistant Librarian????????????? -? 3 Posts?????????: (Scale of Pay: Rs. 8000-275-13200) 2. Information Scientist????????? -? 1 Post??? ???????: (Scale of Pay: Rs. 8000-275-13200) 3. Library and Inf. Assistant??? -? 2 Post?????????? : (Scale of Pay: Rs. 5500-175-9000) 4. Library Trainees???????????????? -? 5 Trainees ???: (Consolidated? Pay: Rs. 5000) 5. Library Attendant??????????????? -? 10 Posts?????? : Consolidated Pay: Rs. 4000) ? For more details click the URL http://bitmesra.ac.in/default.asp ? Good luck for Prospective candidates ? Vijayakumar -- Dr. Vijayakumar M. MSc., UGC-NET., PGDLAN., PGDCA., Ph.D. University?Librarian I/C. Birla Institute of Technology, A Technical University Mesra, Ranchi- 835215, India Tel:0651-2276675 Fax:0651-2275401 http://www.bitmesra.ac.in/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090303/0b8048c3/attachment.html From gprasad at nal.res.in Tue Mar 3 18:04:09 2009 From: gprasad at nal.res.in (Ramachandran Guruprasad) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:04:09 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Most Immediate - 1st Reminder: 6th Endowment Lecture on Digital Libraries, 6/3/09, Univ. Mysore and 89th Convocation, Univ. Mysore 7/3/09. Message-ID: <49AD23C1.7010100@css.nal.res.in> To all the Library Professionals across the Country and former Alumni of the Department of Studies, Library and Information Science, University of Mysore. University of Mysore, Department of Library and Information Science jointly with M./s Informatics Ltd., are organizing the 6^th Endowment Lecture Series on Digital Libraries Dr Khaiser Nikam, Chairperson, Dept. of Studies, Library and Information Science and Sri B J Hosmat, Registrar would be the overall controlling officers of the function. *About The Event?* * *Date and Time: 6^th March 2009, 3.30 P.M. Venue: Rani Bahadur Auditorium, Bahadur Institute of Management Sciences, Manasagangothri, Mysore ? 570 006. The most interesting item of this year?s program is an invited talk by Mr Chintan Mehta, Director, India Incubation ?Cellar? Yahoo India, Research and Development, Bangalore who would be delivering his lecture on ?Managing Web Innovations?. Prof. K Chidananda Gowda, Former Vice-Chancellor, Kuvempu University has kindly agreed to preside over the function. Cultural programme by Smt. Sheea Sridhar and Group follows after the lecture. *Uniqueness of this Year?s Event?* This year?s Endowment Lecture (6-3-09) is unique and would be concluding with a pleasant note, as 7 March 2009 happens to the 89^th Annual Convocation of the Mysore University. The meritorious students would be receiving their gold medals and scroll of honour from none other than Shri. Rameshwar Thakur, the Hon?ble Governor of Karnataka. Sharing the dais with the Hon?ble Governor would be Prof. V G Talwar, the present Vice Chancellor of the Mysore University to personally felicitate all the degree awardees. Hence, kindly consider this as my personal invitation to all the present and old students of the DOS, LIS and all my professional LIS elsewhere in the country to attend this endowment lecture in large numbers, to be followed by the 89^th Annual Convocation of the Mysore University, the next day. Your participation in large numbers would make these two events a grand success. * For further details, kindly contact:* Dr.(Mrs) Khaiser Nikam MLISc, PhD & MBA Chairperson/Reader Department of Library and Information Science University of Mysore Mysore-570 006 Karnataka INDIA Cell:98453 28672 91-821-2415202(R) 2419399(O) ======================== Information Posted by R Guruprasad, Scientist, NAL, Bangalore. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gprasad.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 393 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090303/d194d30c/attachment.vcf From pgtadasad at indiatimes.com Wed Mar 4 08:23:48 2009 From: pgtadasad at indiatimes.com (pgtadasad at indiatimes.com) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:23:48 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Required Project Fellow Message-ID: <274251685.32491236135228972.JavaMail.root@mbr3.indiatimes.com> KARNATAKA STATE WOMEN?S UNIVERSITY, BIJAPUR No. KSWUB/Lib Sc/UGCMRP/2008-09/ Date: 28. 2. 2009 NOTIFICATION Applications are invited for the post of ?Project Fellow? under the project ?Information Support to economically weaker group of women in Karnataka state? in the Department of Library and Information Science, Karnataka State Women?s University, Bijapur. The tenure of the project is for two years (Full time), with a consolidated pay of Rs: 8000/- PM and HRA as per the rules of the University, They shall not receive any other emoluments other than this during the tenure of appointment. The applicant with less than 40 years of age with second class Master of Library and Information Science degree with a minimum of 55% (50% in case of SC/ST/PH) or M Phil in the subject concerned or a related subject. The desirous candidates may send their bio-data along with all marks cards (Photocopies attested), caste certificates if any (latest and attested) and other relevant documents to Dr P G Tadasad Reader and Chairman and Principal Investigator of the project, Department of Library and Information Science, Toravi Campus, Karnataka State Women?s University, Bijapur 586109. (Moble: 09448180973) The Detailed applications should reach the Principal Investigator on or before 15th of March 2009. Dr P G Tadasad Principal Investigator of the Project -- Check out the Mahindra Xylo inside out with reviews, pictures, video and more.Exclusively on ZigWheels.com http://www.zigwheels.com/b2cam/mahindra-xylo.html -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From apassion2002 at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 11:23:03 2009 From: apassion2002 at gmail.com (Ajay Kamble) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:23:03 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Want to Install open source software Koha ? No training needed... Message-ID: <8641f3070903032153m6bfb2186wdb2a289c60aee1e2@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, Check this single link where all the links to the softwares relating *KOHA for windows* are being given. http://www.koha.rwjr.com/ and for installation guidelines, a very simple and easy presentation which is designed by our colleague professional Mr. Ashok Kumar Satapathy, Asst. Librarian, IMIS, Bhubneswar is available at http://www.slideshare.net/Ashoksatapathy/lets-play-with-koha I am thankful to him and wish him success for future... Though We have SOUL at our library, I just tried to install KOHA and installed it successfully. -- Ajay M. Kamble Librarian Annasaheb Vartak Arts, Commerce, Science College, Vasai Road (W), Dist. Thane - 401202 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The introduction of new services or the retooling of traditional services resulting in a better user experience. Creative collaboration between libraries, or between libraries and other types of institutions, resulting in demonstrable improvements in service to users. Implementing new technologies to improve and extend library service to meet user needs. Explorations of the future of libraries. Pilot testing unconventional ideas and services. Redefining the roles of library staff to better serve users. Developing processes that encourage organizational innovation. Reaching out to and engaging library users and non-users in new and creative ways. Creative library instruction and patron programming. Finding new ways to make library collections or library facilities more useful. The Journal of Library Innovation publishes original research, literature reviews, commentaries, case studies, reports on innovative practices, and book, conference and product reviews. The journal also welcomes provocative essays that will stimulate thought on the current and future role of libraries in an Internet Age. For more information and submission guidelines visit http://www.libraryinnovation.org or contact Pamela Jones, the Managing Editor, at pjones at medaille.edu. Suzanne Colligan (Copy Editor for this publication) Reference Librarian/Technology Training Coordinator Humanities and Social Sciences Dept. Buffalo & Erie County Public Library, Central 1 Lafayette Sq. Buffalo, NY 14203 (716) 858-7108, (716) 858-7384 colligans at buffalolib.org ======================================= LATA SURESH Manager, Library and Documentation Centre Asst.Editor, Journal of Health Management (SAGE) Institute of Health Management Research 1, Prabhu Dayal Marg, Sanganer Airport Jaipur - 302011 Rajasthan INDIA Phone: +91-141-3924700-730 ext. 328 Fax : +91-141-2792138 URL : http://www.iihmr.org -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090304/d7cccf08/attachment-0001.html From lata at iihmr.org Wed Mar 4 12:40:45 2009 From: lata at iihmr.org (lata at iihmr.org) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:40:45 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] calll for articles Message-ID: <001f01c99c98$58629eb0$3d00a8c0@LATALIBRARY> Excuse for any cross postings:- The Routledge/Taylor & Francis peer-reviewed journal Resource Sharing & Information Networks is now accepting articles for Fall 2009 publication. Of particular interest are articles regarding interlibrary loan, unmediated borrowing, cooperative collection development, shared virtual library services, digitization projects and other multi-library collaborative efforts including the following topics: Administration and Leadership of Networks, Cooperatives, and Consortia Resource Sharing Electronic Resource Management Systems Training and Continuing Education New Academic/Industry Roles & Economics Cooperative Purchasing New International Roles for Consortia New Publisher Roles Researchers and practitioners are invited to submit on or before June 24, 2009. All submitted manuscripts will be reviewed on a double-blind review basis. For instructions for authors and further details on the journal and submission procedures please visit: www.informaworld.com/WRSI . Please send all submissions and questions to the editor Dr. Barbara J. Stites at bstites at fgcu.edu Barbara J. Stites, Ph.D. Editor, Resource Sharing & Information Networks Florida Gulf Coast University Library 10501 FGCU Boulevard South Fort Myers, FL 33965-6501 bstites at fgcu.edu (239) 590-7602 voice http://informaworld.com/WRSI Rebecca Donlan, MLS Associate Editor, Resource Sharing & Information Networks Florida Gulf Coast University Library 10501 FGCU Boulevard South Fort Myers, FL 33965-6501 rdonlan at fgcu.edu (239) 590-7641 voice ============================================== LATA SURESH Manager, Library and Documentation Centre Asst.Editor, Journal of Health Management (SAGE) Institute of Health Management Research 1, Prabhu Dayal Marg, Sanganer Airport Jaipur - 302011 Rajasthan INDIA Phone: +91-141-3924700-730 ext. 328 Fax : +91-141-2792138 URL : http://www.iihmr.org -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Finally Dr. Koteswara Rao who has taken all the sessions? rapporteur responsibility presented nicely at the end. Finally I would like to thanks Dr. Jagadish Arora to come forward to conduct CALIBER 2009 in Pondicherry. Thanking you Yours Sincerely, R. Narenthiran Librarian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 14:37:04 2009 From: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com (DINESH SIDDAIAH) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:07:04 +0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] ODLIS: Online Dictionary for Library and Information Science Message-ID: <62c911520903040107q605ddd51uc27eac53a0f0a41b@mail.gmail.com> Dear Friends, ODLIS: Online Dictionary for Library and Information Science ODLIS http://lu.com/odlis/odlis_t.cfm is is a hypertext reference resource for library and information science professionals, university students and faculty, and users of all types of libraries. The primary criterion for including a term is whether a librarian or other information professional might reasonably be expected to know its meaning in the course of his or her work. A newly coined term is added when, in the author's judgment, it is likely to become a permanent addition to the lexicon of library and information science. The dictionary reflects North American practice; however, because ODLIS was first developed as an online resource available worldwide, with an e-mail contact address for feedback, users from many countries have contributed to its growth, often suggesting additional terms and commenting on existing definitions. Expansion of ODLIS is updating contineously. And also it is available in both print and online. Thanking You, Dinesh -- Dr. Dinesh K. S. MLISc., Ph.D. Selection Grade Librarian, Nagarjuna College of Engineering & Technology, Devanahalli, Bengaluru - 562 110. Ph: +91-9845102382, Email: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Blog: ksdinesh.blogspot.com, Official Blog: libraryofncet.blogspot.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090304/320a1f1f/attachment.html From puna_05 at yahoo.co.in Wed Mar 4 16:17:08 2009 From: puna_05 at yahoo.co.in (Puna Das) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:17:08 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] CSIR Conference on Open Access to Science Publications; IHC, New Delhi; 24 March 2009 Message-ID: <322837.64799.qm@web95413.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Conference on Open Access to Science Publications: Policy perspective, Opportunities and Challenges Organized by Council of Scientific & Industrial Research (CSIR) Date: 24th March 2009 Venue: India Habitat Centre, New Delhi Open Access to the scientific literature means the removal of barriers, including price and legal barriers, from accessing scholarly work. With the advent of Internet, widespread and easy access to scientific information is facilitating research and innovation, so crucial in today?s knowledge based society. Open Access is not only changing the nature of scholarly communication but even that of scientific work. To take stock of the current developments as regards Open Access and to highlight some of the issues that would need to be addressed to enable a wider access to scientific information, the Council of Scientific & Industrial Research (CSIR) is organizing a Conference on Open Access to Science Publications : Policy perspective, Opportunities and Challenges, on 24th March, 2009 at India Habitat Centre, New Delhi. The Conference will have sessions focused on: * Open Source & changing research * Research Impact thru Open Access * Open Access around the world * The Economics of Open Access Prof. Samir K. Brahmachari, DGCSIR, Prof. John Willinsky, Stanford University, Dr Leslie Chan, University of Toronto, Prof. S. Arunachalam, CIS, Bangalore and other experts will be key speakers at the conference. The conference would cover the emerging global trends in Open Access and focus on what needs to be done in India. The conference would be of interest to scientists, social scientists, policy makers, funding agencies, heads and senior managers of academic and research institutions, editors of research journals, etc. The non-residential fee per delegate is Rs. 1,500/-. The fee is to be remitted in advance by a Demand Draft drawn in favour of 'Council of Scientific & Industrial Research', payable at New Delhi. Registration form is available at: http://www.csir.res.in/External/Heads/aboutcsir/announcements/OA.pdf Contact: Dr. Naresh Kumar Head, R&D Planning Division Council of Scientific & Industrial Research 2 Rafi Marg, New Delhi - 110 001 Fax: 011-23710340, 23713011 Phone: 011-23710453, 23713011 Email: headrdpd[at]csir.res.in ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anup Kumar Das New Delhi, India http://anupkumardas.blogspot.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From balrammlis at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 16:59:14 2009 From: balrammlis at gmail.com (Balram Verma) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:29:14 +1100 Subject: [LIS-Forum] B.IT MESRA RANCHI CHANGE TO INTERVIEW DATE Message-ID: hi i am inform all of u that BIT interview date change , direct interview with original document and one set of photo copy attested document. no need to apply by post or by e- mail. inteview date is 6 th april 2009 at 10:00am Thanks BALRAM VERMA M.Sc.,M.L.I.Sc .,D.C.A. B.I.T.MESRA RANCHI -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090304/89973a0c/attachment-0001.html From nvasanth74 at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 23:23:06 2009 From: nvasanth74 at gmail.com (Vasanthakumar N) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:23:06 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Alagappa University - National Seminar Message-ID: Two Days National Seminar on "Digital resources and their applications in higher education" 11th & 12th March, 2009, 10am to 5 pm Department of Library and Information Science, Alagappa University, Karaikudi. Venue: University Convocation Seminar Hall Resource Persons: Experienced faculty members from reputed institutions. Who can participate? : Library and Information Science professionals, Research Scholars and Students. Registration Fee Professional: Rs. 200, Students: Rs.100/- (Fee Includes course kit, lunch, tea and snacks) Accommodation The participants are requested to make their own arrangement for accommodation. More Details: Organising Secretary, Dr. K. Chinnasamy, Head & Chairperson Dept. of Library and Information Science, School of Library and Information Science, Alagappa University, Karaikudi. Mobile:09443443816 Phone:04565-225203 Fax:04565-225202 E-Mail: drkchinna at yahoo.co.in -- N. Vasanthakumar, Assistant Librarian TSM, Madurai, 9486026488 nvasanth74 at gmail.com vasanthakumarn at tsm.ac.in -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090304/6e5c9c84/attachment-0001.html From niharpatra.lisforum at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 09:23:05 2009 From: niharpatra.lisforum at yahoo.com (Nihar Patra) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:53:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] NSHM Journal of Management Research and Applications Message-ID: <28623.32942.qm@web46216.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Dear Friends, The Business Research and Information Cell at NSHM Business School, Kolkata?is happy to announce the launch of the "NSHM Journal of Management Research and Applications" . May I request to my working business school professionals for download the attached file and put it on your main notice board. With regards, ? Nihar K Patra Head ? Library Science (Assistant Professor) NSHM Knowledge Campus Kolkata - 53 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090304/265e382f/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Call for Papers-NJMRA.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 37907 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090304/265e382f/attachment-0001.pdf From suvarsha_w at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 11:34:32 2009 From: suvarsha_w at yahoo.com (Suvarsha Walters) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:04:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Estimate of number of public libraries in India Message-ID: <169209.2670.qm@web31801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear all, Would anyone have the latest number of public libraries in India? The latest one I got with on the Internet is a 1993 estimate of 44,205 in a paper referenced here: http://www.worlib.org/vol05no2/j_v05n2.shtml I will be grateful if anyone can give me a more recent figure. Thanks and regards, Suvarsha Information Analyst, HP Labs India, Bangalore -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From kale_ravi at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 11:39:47 2009 From: kale_ravi at yahoo.com (ravindra kale) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:09:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive for College librararies Message-ID: <301179.75429.qm@web56501.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Respected Moderator, Kindly published this massage. Dear Library Professionals, Today, INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0. The Terms and Condition and price are available on the following link. http://www.inflibnet.ac.in/soul/SOUL2rates.pdf The Price is too expensive. INFLIBNET have introduced - AMC- Annual Maintenance Charges. As UGC Funded Institution like INFLIBNET Should rethinks about the Price structure. Specially In Limited Version / College version they should provide the Software between the price 15,000 To 20,000 Rupees and 1 lake records and AMC ?Should be maintain between 3,000 to 5,000 Thousand Rupees. This is my humble request and suggestion To Dr. Jagdish Arora, Director, INFLIBNET Centre, Ahmedabad. This is what I feels share with you. Kindly gives your suggestions. Ravindra Suryakant Kale Librarian Narmada College of Management MBA Programme, Shukla Tirth Road Zadeshwer ? 392 011 Bharuch Gujarat Email : kale_ravi at yahoo.com Phone : 9427159186 Dated : 05/03/2009 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 12:08:57 2009 From: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com (DINESH SIDDAIAH) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:38:57 +0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Bangalore writers invited for London book fair Message-ID: <62c911520903042238k1b8a3b96j3b2c4d433f104168@mail.gmail.com> Dear Friends, Bangalore writers invited for London book fair The British Council and The London Book Fair is organizing the India Focus Seminar Programme (2009) on April 20. More than 45 leading Indian writers, translators, reviewers, critics will attend the program. Over 15 Indian languages will be represented in 40 events. Nobel laureate Amartya Sen will give the keynote speech entitled 'India in the modern world' at the Chairman's Breakfast on April 20. Vikram Seth will be the 'Author of the Day' on April 21. The writers include Javed Akhtar, Amit Chaudhuri, Namdeo Dhasal, Ramachandra Guha, Jaishree Misra, Daljit Nagra, Anita Nair, Bhalchandra Nemade, Nandan Nilekani, K Satchidanandan, Shankar, Vikram Seth and Pavan K Varma. They will attend additional events in London and other parts of Britain. Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bangalore/Blore-writers-invited-for-London-book-fair/articleshow/4225205.cms Thanking You, Dinesh -- Dr. Dinesh K. S. MLISc., Ph.D. Selection Grade Librarian, Nagarjuna College of Engineering & Technology, Devanahalli, Bengaluru - 562 110. Ph: +91-9845102382, Email: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Blog: ksdinesh.blogspot.com, Official Blog: libraryofncet.blogspot.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090305/e858e5ac/attachment.html From dmsahu at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 14:27:11 2009 From: dmsahu at gmail.com (Durga M.) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:27:11 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Sub: For valuable suggestions, information, documents and advise from senior professionals, teachers. Police makers and colleagues of Library professionals. Message-ID: <1b9580d50903050057k25daa59aqc711414642d975b5@mail.gmail.com> All Respected members, Good morning to all. I am expecting your valuable suggestions, information, documents and advise on the following matters. I am working in the central library of NERIST as Assistant Librarian. NERIST was established in the year 1984 as an engineering Institute to pursue modular courses in engineering, initially under NEC, MHRD, Govt. of India. At that period scale of for the post of Assistant librarian was Rs.1640-2900 in the 4th pay commission. In 5th pay commission the scale of pay was fixed at Rs.5500 ? 9000. In 6th pay commission the scale of pay was fixed at Rs.11000. and in the pay band tow. Previously the Institute was under AICTE and for the pay scale under Govt. of India pay structure, rules and regulation for all teaching and non teaching members. The post of Assistant Librarian is treated as non-teaching non-vacational staff by the institute. In the year 2005 the institute was declared Deemed University. Accordingly pay scale of faculties is given as per UGC pay scale structure. But for the post of assistant librarian it is not consider. As per UGC and AICTE the Post of Assistant librarian is categorized under teaching staff and the pay structure is under the Pay Band of Rs.15600-39100 with AGP of Rs.8000 initially, which was in the pay scale Grade: Rs. 8000-13500 of 5th pay commission. *Here my question is:* When the institute becomes accredited as Deemed University under UGC, the post of Assistant Librarian should have been upgraded from the previous scale of pay and grade pay to present UGC pay structure. I would like to request all senior professionals, teachers. Police makers and colleagues to provide their valuable suggestions, advice and information (both in soft copy/ hard copy) on this matter. D.M.Sahu Assistant Libraian Central Library, NERIST, Nirjuli - 791109. Arunachal Pradesh. dmsahu at gmail.com Ph: 03602258032( Home) Ph: 23602257401-09 ext. 6367 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090305/7d5c359b/attachment.html From snravi1972 at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 15:53:27 2009 From: snravi1972 at gmail.com (Ravindra Rajan S N) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:53:27 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Workshop Message-ID: <262420710903050223j134344c8s4e980809df73dc67@mail.gmail.com> *Dear Professionals,* University of Mysore. Dept. of Library and Information Science conducting "National Workshop on New GenLib Open Source-Integrated Library System (OS-LIS)" On 24 -26 March 2009. Interested candidates may contact Department Chairperson OR *khai* ser.nikam at gmail.com and make use of this workshop in our profession. S.N. Ravindra Rajan Librarian M.S.Ramaiah College of Law New BEL Road M.S.R.Nagar, M.S.R.I.T (Post) Banagalore-560 054 99005 38709 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090305/ca8e4671/attachment.html From saravanan.g at ifpindia.org Thu Mar 5 17:16:38 2009 From: saravanan.g at ifpindia.org (saravanan) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:16:38 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] request for articles Message-ID: <113DD79488D3424B8BC241181CF9174F@ifpindia.org> Dear All, If any one have these articles in hardcopy or Softcopy please send mr. It is very urgently needed for our Ecology researcher: 1) Ingle S. R. (1973). Syzygioxylon-mandlaense new genus new species a fossil dicotyledonous wood from Mandla district of Madhya Pradesh, India. Botanique (Nagpur) 4, 71-77. 2) Patil G.V. and R.B. Singh. (1974). An infected stem from the Deccan intertrappean beds of mohgaon kalan. Botanique (Nagpur) 5, 141-145. With regards, Mr. G. Saravanan Librarian French Institute of Pondicherry 11, Saint Louis Street, P.B. 33 PONDICHERRY - 605 001 South India, INDIA Ph: 0091 - 413 - 2334168 Extn. 126/139 Fax: 0091 - 413 2339534 Mail : saravanan.g at ifpindia.org Web : www.ifpindia.org -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090305/76088538/attachment-0001.html From cramesh8 at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 18:16:35 2009 From: cramesh8 at gmail.com (ramesh chander) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:16:35 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] National Translation Mission Message-ID: <57860c0a0903050446h1bf7b0d6n6d21aa8ab5f2671@mail.gmail.com> Dear All, National Translation Mission (NTM) is a Government of India initiative to make knowledge-based texts accessible in all Indian languages listed in the VIII schedule of the Constitution through translation. The idea of NTM stemmed from a statement of the Prime Minister of India stressing how vital is the access to translated material, for increasing access to knowledge in many critical areas. For more information, use following URL: http://www.ntm.org.in/main.asp With Best Regards, Romesh Chander National Center for Science Information(NCSI), Indian Institue of Science, Bangalore-560012. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090305/5ff7d60d/attachment-0001.html From savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz Thu Mar 5 17:58:49 2009 From: savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz (savitra sirohi) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:58:49 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Koha V 3.0 Workshop at Mysore University on 9-10 April Message-ID: <8cf6c9ba0903050428n7fc9e168s2e65a3f667158e43@mail.gmail.com> *All, * ** *We are happy to announce a Koha v3.0 hands on workshop at Mysore University, details are given below.* ** *The Registration fee has been kept low and *instructors will be software professionals experienced in live Koha implementations. *Please note registration is on first cum first serve basis and a maximum of 30 seats are available in the computer lab. * ** *Thanks,* *Savitra Sirohi* *MD, Nucsoft OSS Labs* *www.osslabs.biz* ** * ************ ** ***UNIVERSITY OF MYSORE* ** *&* ** *NUCSOFT OSS Labs* ** ** *WORKSHOP * ** *ON* ** ** *KOHA Version 3.0* ** *on * ** *THURSDAY , 9TH & FRIDAY, 10TH APRIL 2009* ** ************* **** *VENUE* *DEPARTMENT OF LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SCIENCE * *MANASAGANGOTHRI * *UNIVERSITY OF MYSORE * *MYSORE -570 006* ** ************ *LOCAL HOST* ** *DR.KHAISER NIKAM * *Chairperson* *khaiser.nikam at gmail.com* ** *(M) 098453 28672* **** ************* ** ** * **OSS Labs CONTACT* ** *MR. SAVITRA SIROHI* * * ** *savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz* ** *(M) 097400 22664* ** ** ************* *COURSE FEE* ** *RS.900/-* *(without accommodation)* ** *Payment by Cash (collected during workshop)* ** *or DD* *DD Drawn in Favor of "OSS Software Solutions Labs Pvt. Ltd."* ** **** *Last date for registration * ** *31st March 2009* ** *************** ** *COURSE CONTENT* ** *Koha Introduction* ***Koha Features Review* *Participating in Koha Community Development* *Open Source Versus Commercial Packages* *Koha System Architecture* *Hardware Requirements* *Linux Installation* *Koha Installation* *System Administration* *Using Koha Modules* *Data Migration* *Zebra Search Configuration* *Multi-lingual Catalog* *RFID Integration* ** *Customizing Koha* *Troubleshooting & Support* ** * ************** * * *** * *ABOUT THE WORKSHOP* ** ** ***Software DVDs will be provided* * Electronic training material will be provided* *Hands on Installation & Configuration Training* * ****Instructors with Experience in Several Live Koha implementations including:* *Delhi Public Library, Delhi* *DC Everest School District, USA* *Tailor Bird Commercial Library, Bangalore* *and more..* ** * ************** -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090305/f842cbbc/attachment-0001.html From nvasanth74 at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 18:33:57 2009 From: nvasanth74 at gmail.com (Vasanthakumar N) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:33:57 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Fwd:10 Websites for Book Lovers..from iLibrarian In-Reply-To: <632693.74051.qm@web65408.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <632693.74051.qm@web65408.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ------------------------------ 10 Websites for Book Lovers At this point most everyone has heard of LibraryThing, the most popular social cataloging website online, and perhaps even of the Amazon-owned Shelfari , but here are a few websites for book lovers that you may not have heard about: [image: booksprouts] 1. BookSprouts BookSprouts is a website where you can join and create book clubs. Members can vote on which book to read next, have book discussions in forums, post book reviews, and hold meetings. [image: blippr] 2. Blippr Blippr is a website where you can add short reviews of 160 characters or less of books, movies, music, games, and applications. You can connect your account to many other social networks such as Twitter and Facebook where you can continue your conversations. [image: 22books2] 3. 22 Books 22books will allow you to quickly create book lists of any type. You can make comments on books in your list, and embed your lists in other websites. [image: bookcoverarchive] 4. Book Cover Archive The Book Cover Archive is a collection of over 1,000 book covers categorized and browsable by designers, authors, titles, art directors, photographers, illustrators, and more. Readers can leave comments on covers and can suggest entries. [image: bookjetty] 5. BookJetty BookJetty is a social cataloging app that will let you set up a bookshelf of titles you own or want and then easily search for them in your local library with a click. Amazon and other booklists can be imported for quick startup. [image: bookglutton] 6. Book Glutton BookGlutton is a social community where you can read public domain books and discuss them with groups. Members can annotate books and make their comments public for discussions or keep them private. You can even upload your own books. [image: gurulib] 7. Gurulib Gurulib is a social cataloging program which lets members organize their book, movie, music, game, and software collections. The site allows members to use their webcams as barcode readers to scan in items. Items be loaned out and members can track borrowed titles. [image: listal] 8. Listal This social cataloging website enables members to catalog books, movies, TV shows, video games, DVDs, and music. Members can loan their items, import and export their catalogs, and create favorite lists that others can comment on. [image: goodreads] 9. GoodReads GoodReads is a robust social cataloging site in which members can create lists, write reviews, form groups, create trivia questions about titles, and converse in forums. [image: paperbackswap] 10. Paperback Swap PaperBack Swap is a community hub for trading your paperbacks, hardbacks, audiobooks, and textbooks with others. Members can easily mail books as the site provides exact postage labels which can be printed out. Once a book is mailed, you can request one for yourself from the cache of over 3 million titles available. I?m sure there are many more great book-related sites out there, please add your suggestions in the comments!! -- N. Vasanthakumar, Assistant Librarian TSM, Madurai, TN Cell: 09486026488 mail: nvasanth74 at gmail.com vasanthakumarn at tsm.ac.in -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:02:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Fw: INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive for College librararies Message-ID: <233704.28156.qm@web65701.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> dear friends i hav one question to all of u, do u think tht the SOUL satisfy the needs of academic institution. every one feels tht it is not user friendly and the features are not really tht gud. still the INFLIBNET is spending huge money on development and in turn we donot get service. regarding the product i request all the professionals to give their practical expereince in view of other software including NEWGENLIB. i feel tht whn such a wonderful software is there the INFLIBNET shd make attempts to develop the open source software and train the library professionals from colleges in using the software. let the INFLIBNET join with the KESAVAN INSTITUTE with a MOU and provide cheap but better service. i will appreciate all the professionals to react whether the INFLIBNET shd spend money on unfinished product with no or meagre support? an expert director, Dr Jagdish Arora shd seriously think of this and let the INFLIBNET NOT waste on these things? thanks laxman rao --- On Thu, 5/3/09, ravindra kale wrote: > From: ravindra kale > Subject: INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive for College librararies > Date: Thursday, 5 March, 2009, 11:39 AM > Respected Moderator, > > Kindly published this massage. > > Dear Library Professionals, > > Today, INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0. The > Terms and Condition and price are available on the following > link. > > http://www.inflibnet.ac.in/soul/SOUL2rates.pdf > > > The Price is too expensive. INFLIBNET had introduced - > AMC- Annual Maintenance Charges. As UGC Funded Institution > like INFLIBNET Should rethink about the Price structure. > Specially In Limited Version / College version they should > provide the Software between the price 15,000 To 20,000 > Rupees and 1 lak records and AMC ?Should be maintain > between 3,000 to 5,000 Thousand Rupees. This is my humble > request and suggestion To Dr. Jagdish Arora, Director, > INFLIBNET Centre, Ahmedabad. > This is what I feel and want to share with you. Kindly give your > suggestions. > > > Ravindra Suryakant Kale > Librarian > Narmada College of Management > MBA Programme, > Shukla Tirth Road > Zadeshwer ? 392 011 > Bharuch > Gujarat > Email : kale_ravi at yahoo.com > Phone : 9427159186 > Dated : 05/03/2009 > > > > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From sushmadethe at rediffmail.com Fri Mar 6 07:40:35 2009 From: sushmadethe at rediffmail.com (sushmadethe ) Date: 6 Mar 2009 02:10:35 -0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] (no subject) Message-ID: <20090306021035.49974.qmail@f5mail-237-243.rediffmail.com> Dear Friends, One of my Friend wants to create a database of books of his Book Store. Can anyone guide me which will the best database software. Best Regards, Sushma Dethe _________________________________________ Librarian, Rustomjee International School, Dahisar, Mumbai-4000 068 Cell : 9920433299 E-mail: sushmadethe at rediffmail.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090306/84b8ca0e/attachment.html From sainul at iiitmk.ac.in Fri Mar 6 08:32:36 2009 From: sainul at iiitmk.ac.in (Sainul Abideen) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:32:36 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Workshop on Interview Skills at IIITM-K 28-29 March 2009 Message-ID: <22ae80220903051902g173f96f1ue5e185fc98f71817@mail.gmail.com> Dear Sir, Please find enclosed details of the Workshop on Interview Skills organised by the Digital Library and Information Services Division, IIITMK. We would Appreciate if you could kindly forward this to the interested persons. With regards Workshop Coordinator WORKSHOP ON INTERVIEW SKILLS: an e-Learning Initiative Organized by Digital Library and Information Services Division, Indian Institute of Information Technology and Management-Kerala, Thiruvananthapuram Date: 28-29 March, 2009 (Saturday and Sunday) Registration Fee: For Students Rs. 400/= Only, Others Rs. 750/= Only Last date for registration and payment of fee: 25th March 2009 About the Workshop Interview is one of the key considerations in the recruitment process of any Job. Effective Job interview is key for getting the right person. Interview is a two way exchange of information and provides an opportunity to candidates to describe their work experience, educational background, career interests, like and dislikes, etc. Similarly, interview provides a chance to the employer to choose right person for the job. Interview preparation is critical point of the interview. A candidate might have obtained high score in examinations but he/she needs to impress the interviewers with his positive qualities, to win the right job. Such winning interviews require specific knowledge and skills, to impress the employer. In order to provide you with those crucial interview skills, IIITM-K Digital Library and Information Services Division is organizing a Workshop on Interview Skills during 28-29 March 2009. This workshop provides a chance to the job seekers an opportunity to gain such winning interview skills. The workshop contains expert lectures on different factors of interview skills and preparations to be taken for winning interviews. Workshop Methodology Being an e-learning initiative, this workshop is based on the Tutored Video Instruction methodology, wherein video lectures of the experts will be delivered in a non-interactive mode. However, tutor guidance will be made available by the local faculty. Venue: IIITM-K, NILA, Technopark Campus, Thiruvananthapuram ? 695581, Kerala Participants: Students (any subject including Arts, Science, Engineering etc.), Professionals, job seekers in all discipline or anybody interested can attend this workshop. Registration Fee: For Students Rs. 400/= Only, Others Rs. 750/= Only. [Payments to be made via Cash, or DD in favour of ?Director, IIITM-K? payable at Canara Bank, Kazhakkoottam Branch] No. of seats are limited. Kindly confirm availability of seats by sending E-mail to iiitmklibrary at gmail.com before sending registration fee. Registration Fee is non-refundable. No TA/DA will be given to the participants. Participants are requested to make their own arrangements for Accommodation and Travel. Registration form along with the Fee may be sent to the Workshop Coordinator. Last date for registration and payment of fee: 25th March 2009 For Registration and further details Sainul Abideen P, Workshop Co-ordinator & Librarian IIITM-K, NILA Technopark, Karyavattom PO,Trivandrum 695581 Ph: 0471-2527567, 2700777, Mobile: 9961814247, 9846929235, 9496252786 E-Mail: iiitmklibrary at gmail.com www.iiitmk.ac.in/interview.htm -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090306/dc7d8997/attachment.html From gmahesh at niscair.res.in Fri Mar 6 08:25:14 2009 From: gmahesh at niscair.res.in (gmahesh at niscair.res.in) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:25:14 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] NISCAIR Short Term Course on GSDL Message-ID: <3bc49e9b88d2089f54d387f7371a498e.squirrel@mail.niscair.res.in> NISCAIR announces its short term course on "Design and Development of Digital Libraries using GSDL" Duration: 5 days (20-24 April 2009) Venue: NISCAIR, 14-Satsang Vihar Marg, New Delhi - 110067 Course fee: Rs. 2000/- (without accommodation) / Rs. 2600/- (with accommodation) How to apply: Application form is available at www.niscair.res.in or can be obtained by sending an email to training at niscair.res.in. Filled in application form along with the appropriate course fee is to be paid by Demand Draft drawn in favour of "Director, NISCAIR" and sent to In-Charge (Training), Education and Training Division, NISCAIR, 14-Satsang Vihar Marg, New Delhi - 110067 For more information, contact: Dr. Narendra Kumar (011-26863617 / 011- 26965094) or Email at: training at niscair.res.in G. Mahesh Scientist, NISCAIR ----------------------------------------- This email was sent using NISCAIR's web mail service. "" http://niscair.res.in/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From badanbarman at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 10:36:03 2009 From: badanbarman at gmail.com (Badan Barman) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:36:03 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Estimate of number of public libraries in India In-Reply-To: <169209.2670.qm@web31801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <169209.2670.qm@web31801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <38055c8a0903052106k11e58e2dy3471844abc56c08b@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Suvarsha Walters wrote: > > Dear all, > > Would anyone have the latest number of public libraries in India? > > The latest one I got with on the Internet is a 1993 estimate of 44,205 in a paper referenced here: http://www.worlib.org/vol05no2/j_v05n2.shtml > > I will be grateful if anyone can give me a more recent figure. > > Thanks and regards, > > Suvarsha > > Information Analyst, > HP Labs India, > Bangalore > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > You can go through my article entitled "Community Libraries of North East India". It is available over the web at: http://knol.google.com/k/badan-barman/community-libraries-of-north-east-india/3bexxvrdm2i7n/10 Thanking you Yours faithfully (Sri Badan Barman) Academic Consultant, Library & Information Science, Krishna Kanta Handique State Open University, Housefed Complex, Last Gate, Dispur, Guwahati-781006, Assam, Phone: 0361-2234964 / 2235971, Fax: 0361- 2235398. Website: www.kkhsou.org -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From anandology at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 11:34:31 2009 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:34:31 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Fwd:10 Websites for Book Lovers..from iLibrarian In-Reply-To: References: <632693.74051.qm@web65408.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41139fcb0903052204l5fd5bde2ob77833f10dc74b77@mail.gmail.com> You might also want to checkout http://openlibrary.org. Open Library has a catalog of 23 million books with 1 million books having full-text for online reading. It also has an open book cover repository with more than 5 million book covers. There are APIs for accessing all the available information. http://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api http://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api/cover Anand Chief Web Programmer Open Library Project On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Vasanthakumar N wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > ________________________________ > > 10 Websites for Book Lovers > > At this point most everyone has heard of LibraryThing, the most popular > social cataloging website online, and perhaps even of the Amazon-owned > Shelfari, but here are a few websites for book lovers that you may not have > heard about: > > BookSprouts > > BookSprouts is a website where you can join and create book clubs. Members > can vote on which book to read next, have book discussions in forums, post > book reviews, and hold meetings. > > Blippr > > Blippr is a website where you can add short reviews of 160 characters or > less of books, movies, music, games, and applications. You can connect your > account to many other social networks such as Twitter and Facebook where you > can continue your conversations. > > 22 Books > > 22books will allow you to quickly create book lists of any type. You can > make comments on books in your list, and embed your lists in other websites. > > Book Cover Archive > > The Book Cover Archive is a collection of over 1,000 book covers categorized > and browsable by designers, authors, titles, art directors, photographers, > illustrators, and more. Readers can leave comments on covers and can suggest > entries. > > BookJetty > > BookJetty is a social cataloging app that will let you set up a bookshelf of > titles you own or want and then easily search for them in your local library > with a click. Amazon and other booklists can be imported for quick startup. > > Book Glutton > > BookGlutton is a social community where you can read public domain books and > discuss them with groups. Members can annotate books and make their comments > public for discussions or keep them private. You can even upload your own > books. > > Gurulib > > Gurulib is a social cataloging program which lets members organize their > book, movie, music, game, and software collections. The site allows members > to use their webcams as barcode readers to scan in items. Items be loaned > out and members can track borrowed titles. > > Listal > > This social cataloging website enables members to catalog books, movies, TV > shows, video games, DVDs, and music. Members can loan their items, import > and export their catalogs, and create favorite lists that others can comment > on. > > GoodReads > > GoodReads is a robust social cataloging site in which members can create > lists, write reviews, form groups, create trivia questions about titles, and > converse in forums. > > Paperback Swap > > PaperBack Swap is a community hub for trading your paperbacks, hardbacks, > audiobooks, and textbooks with others. Members can easily mail books as the > site provides exact postage labels which can be printed out. Once a book is > mailed, you can request one for yourself from the cache of over 3 million > titles available. > > I?m sure there are many more great book-related sites out there, please add > your suggestions in the comments!! > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From benny at tisb.ac.in Fri Mar 6 13:05:48 2009 From: benny at tisb.ac.in (Benny M D) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:05:48 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Portable Data Collectors Message-ID: <74C4CA3A0311AD4FB125E3EC65BBF5FA01AA1958@tisb-srv.tisb.ac.in> Dear Professionals, We are looking for a quality Portable Data Collector with Integrated Barcode Scanner for stock verification purpose. It would be very helpful if those of you professionals already using them give some details regarding the usage, price and availability. Best wishes Benny M.D. HOD, Department of Library The International School Bangalore Email: benny at tisb.ac.in www.tisb.org Mobile: 9448539601 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090306/53f3ecb5/attachment.html From savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz Fri Mar 6 13:32:08 2009 From: savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz (savitra sirohi) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:32:08 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Koha V 3.0 Workshop at Mumbai on 17-18 April Message-ID: <8cf6c9ba0903060002t41d50bd0l811ca14e65b70bf0@mail.gmail.com> All, This is an announcement for a Koha v3.0 hands on workshop at Mumbai, details are given below. The Registration fee has been kept low and instructors will be software professionals experienced in live Koha implementations. Please note registration is on first cum first serve basis and a maximum of 20 seats are available in the computer lab. We also expect to announce workshops in other major cities soon. Thanks, Savitra Sirohi MD, Nucsoft OSS Labs www.osslabs.biz *********** NUCSOFT OSS Labs WORKSHOP ON KOHA Version 3.0 on FRIDAY , 17th & SATURDAY 18th APRIL 2009 *********** VENUE Nucsoft Ltd. Sigma House, 1st Floor, C-8 Central MIDC Road, MIDC, Andheri (E), Mumbai - 400 093, INDIA. ********** OSS Labs CONTACT MR. SAVITRA SIROHI savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz (M) 097400 22664 *********** COURSE FEE RS.900/- (without accommodation) Payment by Cash (collected during workshop) or DD DD Drawn in Favor of "OSS Software Solutions Labs Pvt. Ltd." Last date for registration 31st March 2009 *********** COURSE CONTENT Koha Introduction Koha Features Review Participating in Koha Community Development Open Source Versus Commercial Packages Koha System Architecture Hardware Requirements Linux Installation Koha Installation System Administration Using Koha Modules Data Migration Zebra Search Configuration Multi-lingual Catalog RFID Integration Customizing Koha Troubleshooting & Support *********** ABOUT THE WORKSHOP Software DVDs will be provided Electronic training material will be provided Hands on Installation & Configuration Training Instructors with Experience in Several Live Koha implementations including: Delhi Public Library, Delhi DC Everest School District, USA Tailor Bird Commercial Library, Bangalore and more.. *********** -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From pujar at igidr.ac.in Fri Mar 6 14:00:43 2009 From: pujar at igidr.ac.in (Shamprasad Pujar) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:00:43 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Fw: Open Access Week declared for 2009 Message-ID: <15264394.1236328243380.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> -- Original Message -- From: Jennifer McLennan To: sparc-media at arl.org, sparc-europe at arl.org, sparc-advocacy at arl.org, ata-members at arl.org, ata-media at arl.org, sparc-ir at arl.org, sparc-opendata at arl.org, sparc-oaforum at arl.org, ifla-l at infoserv.inist.fr, liblicense-l at lists.yale.edu Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:00:33 -0500 Subject: [IFLA-L] Open Access Week declared for 2009 For immediate release March 5, 2009 For more information, contact: Jennifer McLennan, SPARC (202) 296-2296 ext 157 jennifer [at] arl [dot] org Open Access Week declared for 2009 Popular global event extended over one week, October 19 ? 23 Washington, DC ? March 5, 2009 ? To accommodate widespread global interest in the movement toward Open Access to scholarly research results, October 19 ? 23, 2009 will mark the first international Open Access Week. The now-annual event, expanded from one day to a full week, presents an opportunity to broaden awareness and understanding of Open Access to research, including access policies from all types of research funders, within the international higher education community and the general public. Open Access Week builds on the momentum generated by the 120 campuses in 27 countries that celebrated Open Access Day in 2008. Event organizers SPARC (the Scholarly Publishing & Academic Resources Coalition), the Public Library of Science (PLoS), and Students for FreeCulture welcome key new contributors, who will help to enhance and expand the global reach of this popular event in 2009: eIFL.net (Electronic Information for Libraries), OASIS (the Open Access Scholarly Information Sourcebook); and the Open Access Directory (OAD). ?I?m participating in Open Access Week again this year because I want to shed light on the tremendous potential of Open Access,? said Allyson Mower, Scholarly Communications & Copyright Librarian for the University of Utah?s Marriott Library. ?People searching for information usually consume whatever is readily available. Open Access ensures that quality information is at people?s fingertips.? ?eIFL.net works to make intellectual outputs of developing and transitional countries more visible and more easily accessible,? added Rima Kupryte, Director of eIFL.net. ?We believe that Open Access contributes to improved education, teaching, and research, and accelerates innovations and economical developments in these countries. Open Access Week is a great opportunity to promote Open Access globally.? This year?s program will highlight educational resources on Open Access that local hosts can use to customize their own programs to suit local audiences and time zones. OASIS will serve as the centerpiece of the 2009 program, delivering resources for every constituency and every awareness level. The Open Access Directory will again provide an index of participants on five continents, as well as their growing clearinghouse for all OA resources. Through the collaborative functionality of the two initiatives, OA videos, briefing papers, podcasts, slideshows, posters and other informative tools will be drawn from all over the Web to be highlighted during Open Access Week. The organizers will also work with registrants to develop a variety of sample program tracks, such as ?Administrators? introduction to campus open-access policies and funds,? ?OA 101,? and ?Complying with the NIH public access policy? that take full advantage of available tools. Participants are invited to adapt these resources for local use, and to mark Open Access Week by hosting an event, distributing literature, blogging -- or even just wearing an Open Access t-shirt. ?After the success of last year?s Open Access Day, we?re delighted to be co-organizing the first ever Open Access Week with our fellow collaborators, again in conjunction with the anniversary of one of our flagship journals,? said Peter Jerram, CEO for the Public Library of Science. ?We ask our supporters to celebrate the fifth anniversary of PLoS Medicine by spreading the word about Open Access and getting involved in the week.? ?There?s no more certain sign of the momentum behind Open Access to research than an annual, global celebration of this scale,? added Heather Joseph, Executive Director of SPARC. ?Occasions like this are the best possible way to attract attention from busy faculty members and administrators, and to demonstrate the widespread appeal of Open Access. It?s SPARC?s pleasure to be working with our partners to realize the event once again this year.? For more information about Open Access Week and to register, visit http://www.openaccessweek.org. ## SPARC SPARC (Scholarly Publishing and Academic Resources Coalition), with SPARC Europe and SPARC Japan, is an international alliance of more than 800 academic and research libraries working to create a more open system of scholarly communication. SPARC?s advocacy, educational and publisher partnership programs encourage expanded dissemination of research. SPARC is a founder of the Alliance for Taxpayer Access, representing taxpayers, patients, physicians, researchers, and institutions that support open public access to taxpayer-funded research. 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From rameshmastro at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 12:55:17 2009 From: rameshmastro at gmail.com (Ramesh T) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:55:17 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] koha guidelines Message-ID: Hai this is Ramesh, i install koha software but it have some problems any one can clarify my doubt. i instal all perl, my sql, apache server and koha software but it is says like this REENTER CONNECTION INFORMATION Please re enter connection inforamtion for an Administrative user (ROOT) for this database. This install needs to connect and add a koha user. Admin.User __________________. Pass word __________________. like this -- Ramesh.T 9866952923 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, I would like to emphasize that the world over (including in the commercially oriented west), libraries are seriously moving towards open source solutions and the development of an open library environment via a project (www.oleproject.org) that is funded by the Mellon Foundation and under the leadership of Duke University and others. Other examples of the move towards open source solutions is the project of the eXtensible Catalog project (http://www.screencast.com/users/eXensibleCatalog). Evergreen, Koha are good examples of successful open source projects, both well funded and now commercially supported. In India too the Kesavan Inst. of Information and Knowledge Management (www.kiikm.org) together with a software company, Verus Solutions Pvt. Ltd., has championed the cause of open source via NewGenLib, the first Indian open source library management system (LMS). NewGenLib has been downloaded by more than 9000+ instns., worldwide and there is a growing community of users. Quite a few organizations in India have supported hands-on workshops on NewGenLib. Already two versions of the software have been released and a new version (3.0) is due for release this year. All components of NewGenLib's layers are open source ones. I might also add the following information: 1.. The new version (3.0) will have a Rich Internet Application (RIA) front-end and OPAC. 2.. We are in the process of signing an agreement with OCLC which will allow NewGenLib libraries to access WorldCat via an Application Programmers Interface (API) (and leverage WorldCat's social web features) expanding access to libraries implementing NewGenLib. 3.. The new version will have many customizable features and better support to web services of vendors such as Amazon, Google (e.g., Google Book Search, Google Scholar). 4.. KIIKM is committed to providing domain support and advice to ensure that NewGenLib is aware of new trends and technologies and applies relevant ones wherever possible. 5.. Data conversion, training and ongoing support services to open source NewGenLib users are provided at nominal costs and all support services are customer-specific and optional depending on their needs. I honestly believe that in a diverse world both SOUL and NewGenLib have a place but what is more important is the freedom that libraries must have to choose what they will use to automate their libraries. KIIKM and Verus Solutions are always open to collaboration with INFLIBNET or other organizations in India and abroad. Haravu Trustee, Kesavan Inst. of Information and Knowledge Management -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For Students Rs. 400/= Only, Others Rs. 750/= Only Last date for registration and payment of fee: 25th March 2009 About the Workshop Interview is one of the key considerations in the recruitment process of any Job. Effective Job interview is key for getting the right person. Interview is a two way exchange of information and provides an opportunity to candidates to describe their work experience, educational background, career interests, like and dislikes, etc. Similarly, interview provides a chance to the employer to choose right person for the job. Interview preparation is critical point of the interview. A candidate might have obtained high score in examinations but he/she needs to impress the interviewers with his positive qualities, to win the right job. Such winning interviews require specific knowledge and skills, to impress the employer. In order to provide you with those crucial interview skills, IIITM-K Digital Library and Information Services Division is organizing a Workshop on Interview Skills during 28-29 March 2009. This workshop provides a chance to the job seekers an opportunity to gain such winning interview skills. The workshop contains expert lectures on different factors of interview skills and preparations to be taken for winning interviews. Workshop Methodology Being an e-learning initiative, this workshop is based on the Tutored Video Instruction methodology, wherein video lectures of the experts will be delivered in a non-interactive mode. However, tutor guidance will be made available by the local faculty. Venue: IIITM-K, NILA, Technopark Campus, Thiruvananthapuram ? 695581, Kerala Target audience: Anybody interested can attend. However Students, Job Seekers, and those who are in the early stage of their career will be given preference. Registration Fee: For Students Rs. 400/= Only, Others Rs. 750/= Only. [Payments to be made via Cash, or DD in favour of ?Director, IIITM-K? payable at Canara Bank, Kazhakkoottam Branch] No. of seats are limited. Kindly confirm availability of seats by sending E-mail to iiitmklibrary at gmail.com before sending registration fee. Registration Fee is non-refundable.? No TA/DA will be given to the participants. Participants are requested to make their own arrangements for Accommodation and Travel. Registration form along with the Fee may be sent to the Workshop Coordinator. Last date for registration and payment of fee: 25th March 2009 For Registration and further details Sainul Abideen P, Workshop Co-ordinator & Librarian IIITM-K, NILA Technopark, Karyavattom PO,Trivandrum? 695581 Ph: 0471-2527567, 2700777 exn 119, Mobile: 9961814247, 9846929235, 9496252786 E-Mail: iiitmklibrary at gmail.com?? www.iiitmk.ac.in/interview.htm Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090305/761f6da4/attachment-0001.html From savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz Sat Mar 7 12:07:47 2009 From: savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz (savitra sirohi) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:07:47 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Koha V 3.0 Workshop at Mysore University on 9-10 April Message-ID: <8cf6c9ba0903062237h76ce9d5ar8b0bce31c2a48ce2@mail.gmail.com> Dear Moderator, please allow me to post this again. The previous copy was in rich text and it appears the list server does not format such emails properly. Thanks, Savitra All, We are happy to announce a Koha v3.0 hands on workshop at Mysore University, details are given below. The Registration fee has been kept low and instructors will be software professionals experienced in live Koha implementations. Please note registration is on first cum first serve basis and a maximum of 30 seats are available in the computer lab. Thanks, Savitra Sirohi MD, Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz *********** UNIVERSITY OF MYSORE & NUCSOFT OSS Labs WORKSHOP ON KOHA Version 3.0 on THURSDAY , 9TH & FRIDAY, 10TH APRIL 2009 *********** VENUE DEPARTMENT OF LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SCIENCE MANASAGANGOTHRI UNIVERSITY OF MYSORE MYSORE -570 006 ********** LOCAL HOST DR.KHAISER NIKAM Chairperson khaiser.nikam at gmail.com (M) 098453 28672 *********** OSS Labs CONTACT MR. SAVITRA SIROHI savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz (M) 097400 22664 *********** COURSE FEE RS.900/- (without accommodation) Payment by Cash (collected during workshop) or DD DD Drawn in Favor of "OSS Software Solutions Labs Pvt. Ltd." Last date for registration 31st March 2009 *********** COURSE CONTENT Koha Introduction Koha Features Review Participating in Koha Community Development Open Source Versus Commercial Packages Koha System Architecture Hardware Requirements Linux Installation Koha Installation System Administration Using Koha Modules Data Migration Zebra Search Configuration Multi-lingual Catalog RFID Integration Customizing Koha Troubleshooting & Support *********** ABOUT THE WORKSHOP Software DVDs will be provided Electronic training material will be provided Hands on Installation & Configuration Training Instructors with Experience in Several Live Koha implementations including: Delhi Public Library, Delhi DC Everest School District, USA Tailor Bird Commercial Library, Bangalore and more.. *********** -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From vinod_librarian at rediffmail.com Sat Mar 7 17:36:49 2009 From: vinod_librarian at rediffmail.com (vinod mishra) Date: 7 Mar 2009 12:06:49 -0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0 - Very Message-ID: <20090307120649.37570.qmail@f5mail-236-225.rediffmail.com>   Dear Professionals, I do agree with Mr. laxman rao about developing of NEWGENLIB, Because if we have already a open source Library software like Newgenlib having features almost equal to other commercial package then we should not waste our time and money on developing other packages. We must take pain to develop open source package just like GSDL and Dspace for better solution of library automation in India. With regards, V.K.Mishra -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090307/dc8b2ea2/attachment.html From naglaxman at yahoo.com Sun Mar 8 08:21:50 2009 From: naglaxman at yahoo.com (Prof. N. Laxman Rao.) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 18:51:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Fw: INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive for College librararies In-Reply-To: <21bdf6910903062152y56869075y36ff04b4faf7f500@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <31573.47034.qm@web65702.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> helo friends it is so unfortunate many have purchased SOUL and are experiencing both gud and bad. why can't they write their experiences. INFLIBNET is an institution and people come and go, but Institution survives. we had lot of expectations from the earlier heads including the present head, who is efficient, successful and matured professional. people must be able to forward their real (no bias) reactions both negative and positive. It is so sad that we do not react on any issue especially burning issues relating to our profession. we need to also OBJECTIVELY react on several issues such as performance of associations, organisations (such as NISCAIR, NATIONAL LIBRARY) book depositary act, NKC recommendations (i want to bring to ur notice that the Central Advisory Board of Education, CABE has rejected recommendations). LET US NOT TAKE THE INDIVIDUALS AS A CASE AND KEEP QUITE DUE TO OUR RELATION / OBLIGATION TO THEM AS THE INSTITUTIONS AND PROFESSION IS IMPORTANT. I WROTE THE COMENT ON SOUL based on more than 100 installations in Andhra Pradesh, where not more than single digit (if i am right it is just two colleges are using partially (one of them is Mr Laxma Reddy). our comments and reactions enables the concerned to re-examine the issues for better. as some one suggested that the cost of SOUL is also very high. one of the comment that is stated is that it is gud on the basis of evaluation but not on real use? even the INFLIBNET can opt for NEWGENLIB and develop and provide service (iam not an advocate for single software). we can also think of other open source software also? we can see the LINUX, a open source software the way it is developing at faster rate. ULTIMATELY IT IS THE PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE TO USE AND ENJOY OR SUFFER BY CHOOSING A SOFTWARE. WITH MANY YOUNGSTERS, WHO ARE DYNAMIC NEED TO COME FORWARD AND CLAIM UR RIGHT TO LEARN AND WORK. WITH BEST WISHES TO ALL MY PROFESSIONAL FRIENDS LAXMAN RAO --- On Sat, 7/3/09, S K DEsale wrote: > From: S K DEsale > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Fw: INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive for College librararies > Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 11:22 AM > Dear Professionals, > > SOUL is also good software and it is also good to see that > INFLIBNET is come > up with new version.Since INFLIBNET already spend lot of > time and money on > SOUL so there is no point in discarding this software. > Instead of that > INFLBNET should think of making it open source. This will > save > INFLIBNET from spending on development of this software. > INFLIBNET should > spend more on training of this software so that more and > more people start > using this software. It will help to identify the problems > in software and > those can be corrected. > > I am agreed with Prof Rao that NEWGENLIB is better > software. I have > installed NEWGENLIB but I have problem in importing data > from libsys to > NEWGENLIB. Can anybody guide me on that? > > On 3/5/09, Prof. N. Laxman Rao. > wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friends > > i hav one question to all of u, do u think tht the > SOUL satisfy the needs > > of academic institution. every one feels tht it is not > user friendly and the > > features are not really tht gud. still the INFLIBNET > is spending huge money > > on development and in turn we donot get service. > regarding the product i > > request all the professionals to give their practical > expereince in view of > > other software including NEWGENLIB. > > i feel tht whn such a wonderful software is there the > INFLIBNET shd make > > attempts to develop the open source software and train > the library > > professionals from colleges in using the software. let > the INFLIBNET join > > with the KESAVAN INSTITUTE with a MOU and provide > cheap but better service. > > i will appreciate all the professionals to react > whether the INFLIBNET shd > > spend money on unfinished product with no or meagre > support? > > > > an expert director, Dr Jagdish Arora shd seriously > think of this and let > > the INFLIBNET NOT waste on these things? > > > > thanks > > laxman rao > > > > > > --- On Thu, 5/3/09, ravindra kale > wrote: > > > > > From: ravindra kale > > > Subject: INFLIBNET has launched new Version of > Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive > > for College librararies > > > Date: Thursday, 5 March, 2009, 11:39 AM > > > Respected Moderator, > > > > > > Kindly published this massage. > > > > > > Dear Library Professionals, > > > > > > Today, INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul > 2.0. The > > > Terms and Condition and price are available on > the following > > > link. > > > > > > http://www.inflibnet.ac.in/soul/SOUL2rates.pdf > > > > > > > > > The Price is too expensive. INFLIBNET had > introduced - > > > AMC- Annual Maintenance Charges. As UGC Funded > Institution > > > like INFLIBNET Should rethink about the Price > structure. > > > Specially In Limited Version / College version > they should > > > provide the Software between the price 15,000 To > 20,000 > > > Rupees and 1 lak records and AMC ?Should be > maintain > > > between 3,000 to 5,000 Thousand Rupees. This is > my humble > > > request and suggestion To Dr. Jagdish Arora, > Director, > > > INFLIBNET Centre, Ahmedabad. > > > This is what I feel and want to share with you. > Kindly give your > > > suggestions. > > > > > > > > > Ravindra Suryakant Kale > > > Librarian > > > Narmada College of Management > > > MBA Programme, > > > Shukla Tirth Road > > > Zadeshwer ? 392 011 > > > Bharuch > > > Gujarat > > > Email : kale_ravi at yahoo.com > > > Phone : 9427159186 > > > Dated : 05/03/2009 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 11:53:40 2009 From: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com (DINESH SIDDAIAH) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 06:23:40 +0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] =?windows-1252?q?Formation_of_LIS_Leadership_Forum_?= =?windows-1252?q?=96_Suggestions=2C_opinions_sought_from_experts_a?= =?windows-1252?q?nd_fellow_professionals?= Message-ID: <62c911520903082323i13ffbfadpad4d38d36ba771ee@mail.gmail.com> Dear LIS Professionals, *Formation of LIS Leadership Forum ? Suggestions, opinions sought from experts and fellow professionals * *Aim:* To promote leadership qualities in budding, young LIS professionals. *Motive:* The motive of creating this leadership forum is to enhance leadership qualities in young, budding LIS professionals who are in search of platforms and make them to contribute their services to the profession and to the society to a greater extent. *Review: * Many experts in the field may contemplate that why we should need forum like this as already existing associations and endowments doing similar activities and they are working fine. But, the approach of this forum is different and it wants to address real challenges and threats currently encounter LIS profession. In western countries this profession is considered to be one among the top ten professions and it may be influence of highest literacy rate and more engaged in scientific and engineering activities. In our country our profession is in pathetic condition except few who doesn?t want to raise their voice to people suffering in different levels. Of course very few are doing well. * * *Objectives: * 1. To enhance the leadership qualities in young and budding LIS professionals 2. To upgrade the experienced professionals towards emerging trends and technologies 3. Promoting Reading habits in Rural and backward areas 4. To empower ourselves 5. To make more effective and efficient in working 6. To build teams and enhance the team work 7. To improve communication Skills 8. To create Motivation 9. Professional enrichment 10. Exploring new avenues * * *Events & Activities:* 1. Organizing Discussions / Interactions with experts. 2. Conducting Training Programs from top managers from management, IT and LIS. 3. Invited Lectures 4. Workshops 5. Other Innovative programs 6. Teleconferencing with the overseas experts 7. Other progressive activities 8. Arranging promotional camps in rural and backward areas *Memberships:* All the LIS professionals can become members of the leadership forum There will not be any registration charges for the members Registration will be done through online Initially it will start from Bangalore and it will extend to the other areas / cities *Financial Assistance:* The forum will function through sponsorships of business organizations, institutions, professional bodies, colleges, professional friend?s assistance and other corporations. *Appeal:* Our sincere appeal to our entire professional is to contribute your knowledge, experience, expertise to this leadership forum and embrace in building our profession par with other well established profession and it is possible only with all our professional friends help and cooperation. * * Kindly offer you suggestions, modifications, comments, opinions. After thorough analysis of all your views the forum will function. 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URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090309/1ac8bf21/attachment-0001.html From ram.mlib at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 11:58:50 2009 From: ram.mlib at gmail.com (Shriram Pandey) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:58:50 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Open Source Software - Free As In Markets Message-ID: Hello List members, This is a very good article on Open Source Software - Free As In Markets published in E-Government bulletin live.According to this ?Free software is free as in markets, not free as in beer,? open source software analyst and trainer Nick Mailer told public sector delegates at this month?s Headstar masterclass on the use of open source solutions in the public sector.As this catchphrase suggests, free and open source software is not necessarily cost-free, but offers a freedom of ownership and use not possible with most proprietary software. Detail may be accessible at : http://www.headstar.com/egblive/?p=199 -- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Regards, Shri Ram Pandey - Asst. Librarian The LNM Institute of Information Technology(LNM IIT) Jaipur(Rajasthan) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From goudar at nal.res.in Mon Mar 9 13:56:14 2009 From: goudar at nal.res.in (I.R.N.Goudar) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB Message-ID: Dear Professionals, Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis-forum soon after the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My message answers few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin in discussing the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, Suchika, etc. At this juncture of avilability of open source software, what should be our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like INFLIBNET, NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc should do? Government has spent lot of money various agencies for the development of good library automation system. Some of them were cooked half? Discontinued further developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? Some of them did not get good support after sale or implementation? While I have full confidence in the capability and vision of present director of INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my basic question is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts and spend money on such developments, when so many open source softawre are available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source flatform, uses only open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national level we should have customization, migration and support service arrangements on any open system we adopt. MY LIS-FORUM MESSGE SENT ON 11 JAN 2008, GIVES SOME SUGGESTIONS IN THIS MATTER (Copy enclosed below) Goudar ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:25:02 +0530 (IST) From: I.R.N.Goudar To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Subject: [LIS-Forum] NewGenLib-What next? Dear Professionals, Great news! NewGenLib, library automation software has become open source software. I appreciate the initiative and gesture of Dr. LJ Haravu and his team of Keshvan Kesavan Institute of Information and Knowledge Management, Hyderabad and also those who are behind this move. I am proud of this unique gift for L&IS and KM community in the world by Indian librarian community. I have seen the demonstration of this software, it uses open source platforms and other tools, confirms to open source standards unlike many commercial software. The features and the functionalities are of high standard. I am quite sure that this move will revolutionise library automation and digital library activities in a big way especially in India. This welcome development raises many questions: a. What would be the role of Mr. Haravu and his colleagues now onwards? b. Who would support the further development of NewGenLib? c. Who would give the support for installation, customization and porting the whole data if one would like to migrate to this software? d. What about the libraries who have baought NewGenLib earlier? etc I have following suggestions in this matter: a. Few Government institutions like DESIDOC, DSIR, NIC, INFLIBNET and Erstwhile INSDOC also have developed library automation software like Maithriyee, Sanjay, SOUL, E-Granthalaya, Granthalaya, Suchika, etc. I strongly feel that all these institutions and others interested should put their efforts in further development and implementation of NewGenLib in all academic, specialized, public and industrial libraries in India in a synergized manner instead of wasting their manpower, time and money on their products. b. All Indian LIS schools should teach NewGenLib software as a part of their curriculum. Institutions like, DRTC, NCSI, NISCAIR can take the lead for developmental activities and training program. Keshavani Institute should get sizeable aid from Governmental agencies to carry forward the activity. Dr. Haravu's group can help the individual libraries for installation, customization, porting, etc and charge nominally for the service. c. National Knowledge Commission, ILA, IASLIC, SIS and other library associations should make note of this development and extend suitable help and guidance. d. Departments of Public Libraries of different states should not only adopt this software, but try to extend their help in the development of this software. e. We should stop promoting KOHA in our country. f. All professionals should come forward in further development of NewGEnLib and should help to compile good manual. Better we have a discussion group specifically meant for this puepose. g. NewGenLib has a nice module for Union Catalogue. We should make use of this to have Union Cataloges say of all Universities, State level Public Libraries, all CSIR Labs, etc. Initially we should hold one day brain storming round table meeting of selected 15-20 top level Indian librarians in the country who have successfully automated their libraries in a big way and few LIS Faculty along with Dr. Haravu and his technical team. I request Dr. ARD Prasad of DRTC to take a lead in this matter. ONCE AGAIN CONGRATULATIONS AND HEARTFELT THANKS TO DR. HARAVU AND KESHAVAN INSTITUTE. Goudar -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. I.R.N. Goudar Tel: 91-80-25086081 Sci F & Head, Information Centre for 91-80-25235315 Aerospace Science and Technology Fax: 91-80-25268072 National Aerospace Laboratories E-mail:goudar at css.nal.res.in Airport Road, BANGALORE-560 017 India http://www.icast.org.in/staff/goudar.html -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ LIS-Forum mailing list LIS-Forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 13:24:36 2009 From: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com (DINESH SIDDAIAH) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:54:36 +0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] =?windows-1252?q?Formation_of_LIS_Leadership_Forum_?= =?windows-1252?q?=96_Suggestions=2C_opinions_sought_from_experts_a?= =?windows-1252?q?nd_fellow_professionals?= Message-ID: <62c911520903090054p330bec92p1381063888046b15@mail.gmail.com> Dear Professional Friends, Formation of LIS Leadership Forum ? Suggestions, opinions sought from experts and fellow professionals *Aim:* To promote leadership qualities in budding, young LIS professionals Motive: The motive of creating this leadership forum is to enhance leadership qualities in young, budding LIS professionals who are in search of platforms and make them to contribute their services to the profession and to the society to a greater extent. Review: Many experts in the field may contemplate that why we should need forum like this as already existing associations and endowments doing similar activities and they are working fine. But, the approach of this forum is different and it wants to address real challenges and threats currently encounter LIS profession. In western countries this profession is considered to be one among the top ten professions and it may be influence of highest literacy rate and more engaged in scientific and engineering activities. In our country our profession is in pathetic condition except few who doesn?t want to raise their voice to people suffering in different levels. Of course very few are doing well. Objectives: 1. To enhance the leadership qualities in young and budding LIS professionals 2. To upgrade the experienced professionals towards emerging trends and technologies 3. Promoting Reading habits in Rural and backward areas 4. To empower ourselves 5. To make more effective and efficient in working 6. To build teams and enhance the team work 7. To improve communication Skills 8. To create Motivation 9. Professional enrichment 10. Exploring new avenues Events & Activities: 1. Organizing Discussions / Interactions with experts. 2. Conducting Training Programs from top managers from management, IT and LIS. 3. Invited Lectures 4. Workshops 5. Other Innovative programs 6. Teleconferencing with the overseas experts 7. Other progressive activities 8. Arranging promotional camps in rural and backward areas Memberships: All the LIS professionals can become members of the leadership forum There will not be any registration charges for the members Registration will be done through online Initially it will start from Bangalore and it will extend to the other areas / cities Financial Assistance: The forum will function through sponsorships of business organizations, institutions, professional bodies, colleges, professional friend?s assistance and other corporations. Appeal: Our sincere appeal to our entire professional is to contribute your knowledge, experience, expertise to this leadership forum and embrace in building our profession par with other well established profession and it is possible only with all our professional friends help and cooperation. Kindly offer you suggestions, modifications, comments, opinions. After thorough analysis of all your views the forum will function. 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URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090309/e3413943/attachment.html From badanbarman at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 14:35:17 2009 From: badanbarman at gmail.com (Badan Barman) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:35:17 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] =?utf-8?q?Formation_of_LIS_Leadership_Forum_=E2=80=93?= =?utf-8?q?_Suggestions=2C_opinions_sought_from_experts_and_fellow_?= =?utf-8?q?professionals?= In-Reply-To: <62c911520903082323i13ffbfadpad4d38d36ba771ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <62c911520903082323i13ffbfadpad4d38d36ba771ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <38055c8a0903090205s5134e2abj6ac1f7959c36b04d@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:53 AM, DINESH SIDDAIAH wrote: > Dear LIS Professionals, > > > > Formation of LIS Leadership Forum ? Suggestions, opinions sought from > experts and fellow professionals > > > > Aim: > > To promote leadership qualities in budding, young LIS professionals. > > > > Motive: > > The motive of creating this leadership forum is to enhance leadership > qualities in young, budding LIS professionals who are in search of platforms > and make them to contribute their services to the profession and to the > society to a greater extent. > > > > Review: > > Many experts in the field may contemplate that why we should need forum like > this as already existing associations and endowments doing similar > activities and they are working fine. But, the approach of this forum is > different and it wants to address real challenges and threats currently > encounter LIS profession. In western countries this profession is considered > to be one among the top ten professions and it may be influence of highest > literacy rate and more engaged in scientific and engineering activities. In > our country our profession is in pathetic condition except few who doesn?t > want to raise their voice to people suffering in different levels. Of course > very few are doing well. > > > > Objectives: > > 1. To enhance the leadership qualities in young and budding LIS > professionals > > 2. To upgrade the experienced professionals towards emerging trends and > technologies > > 3. Promoting Reading habits in Rural and backward areas > > 4. To empower ourselves > > 5. To make more effective and efficient in working > > 6. To build teams and enhance the team work > > 7. To improve communication Skills > > 8. To create Motivation > > 9. Professional enrichment > > 10. Exploring new avenues > > > > Events & Activities: > > 1. Organizing Discussions / Interactions with experts. > > 2. Conducting Training Programs from top managers from management, IT and > LIS. > > 3. Invited Lectures > > 4. Workshops > > 5. Other Innovative programs > > 6. Teleconferencing with the overseas experts > > 7. Other progressive activities > > 8. Arranging promotional camps in rural and backward areas > > > > Memberships: > > All the LIS professionals can become members of the leadership forum > > There will not be any registration charges for the members > > Registration will be done through online > > Initially it will start from Bangalore and it will extend to the other areas > / cities > > > > Financial Assistance: > > The forum will function through sponsorships of business organizations, > institutions, professional bodies, colleges, professional friend?s > assistance and other corporations. > > > > Appeal: > > Our sincere appeal to our entire professional is to contribute your > knowledge, experience, expertise to this leadership forum and embrace in > building our profession par with other well established profession and it is > possible only with all our professional friends help and cooperation. > > > > Kindly offer you suggestions, modifications, comments, opinions. After > thorough analysis of all your views the forum will function. > > Send your views to:? lislforum at gmail.com > > > > Thanking You, > > ----- > > Posted on behalf of LIS Leadership-Forum > > by > > Dr. Dinesh K. S. > > Librarian (Sl.Gr.) > > NCET, Bangalore. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > > Sir/Madam, I acknowledge your budding effort, but have doubt in many direction. I have the every reason of that... I wrote about this issue many times trhough different online forum/groups and you know I am now tired enough to write again.. Firstly let me be practical, we are subscribing to a group/forum keeping its objectives in mind. But after some days what we receives? nothing special than cross posting, duplication of post, receiving irrelevant massage... By forming different groups/forum and not sticking with our aims and objectives we are exploiting our subscriber time, and nothing else.. Let me rise question about the LIS Forum itself. I am a subscriber of this forum from 2004. Previously it was ok. But now what we receives.. cross posting.. irrelevant massage.. and nothing.. rather my recent RSS subscription are keeping me abreast with the LIS and hopes to be more usefull than this forum.. But i have a relation with it, since I was a student.. Now is it not the time to redefine the aims and objectives of the "LIS Forum" itself? It post anything? Jobs.. Seminars.. topics for discussion. But do you have an idea.. our valuable time are just going to the garbage.. Why? Simple. I am already employed and don't need any job posting.. so why i will receives jobs posting again and again.. Someone is unemployed and don't need upcoming seminars or workshop posting, and don't like to attend also .. But we are giving them it free.. Not just to waste their time? Stop about it... Even some new members posting repeatedly some sites.. and the moderators are approving it.. Even though we know about that site since a long time.. Go to IASLIC group for example. We are subscribing to it, to receives updates related to IASLIC. But what we receives? We all know... I am bored actually and tired too.. There are different forum/groups related to LIS over the web, go to any one, you will practically find nothing than exploitation of the subscriber time by way of cross posting of massage, directing and posting irrelevant message. As an administrator of some site (forum/group) we are exploiting our members.. But if you really come to be a unique, with really specific aim and objectives I welcomes you.. Otherwise please don't waste our time... I am bored.. I am tired.. Thanking you Yours faithfully (Sri Badan Barman) Academic Consultant, Library & Information Science, Krishna Kanta Handique State Open University -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From badanbarman at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 15:14:55 2009 From: badanbarman at gmail.com (Badan Barman) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:14:55 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Database of LIS professional in India: Please Sing Up. Message-ID: <38055c8a0903090244i4721cebcyd90fbd7f9d3694d5@mail.gmail.com> Respected Forum Members, Please register with us (Sign Up) over: http://lislinks.ning.com/ to have a near complete database of LIS professional in India. You can search the already entered records of the database via http://lislinks.ning.com/profiles/members/advancedSearch Thanking you Yours faithfully (Sri Badan Barman) Academic Consultant -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From drtc at isibang.ac.in Mon Mar 9 14:15:15 2009 From: drtc at isibang.ac.in (DRTC - General) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:15:15 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] DRTC Annual seminar Message-ID: <1205.210.212.206.68.1236588315.squirrel@mail.isibang.ac.in> Indian Statistical Institute Documentation Research & Training Centre Bangalore?560059, India SEMINAR on SPATIAL INFORMATION RETRIEVAL, ANALYSIS, REASONING AND MODELLING March 18-20, 2009 Website: www.isibang.ac.in/~sirarm Data related to various natural, anthropogenic and socio-economic phenomena are now available in numerous formats, most significant of which is spatial data that facilitate visualization at spatio-temporal intervals. Availability of such data from a wide range of sources in a variety of formats poses challenges to Geographic Information Science (GISci) community. The utility and application of such data could be substantially enhanced through developments in technologies related to:  Retrieval: Retrieval of noise-free information in the forms of themes (layers) from data requires robust image processing, spatial information theory techniques.  Analysis: Once theme-specific layered information is retrieved, techniques are required to analyse themes.  Reasoning: Theme specific layered information need to be integrated via spatial relationships and reasoning. Certain map algebraic concepts are of use.  Modelling: Spatio-temporal behaviour of a phenomenon needs to be visualized Much success has been achieved in the proper usage of data by addressing the above four aspects by individual groups. It is now at understandable level and there are overlaps between the concepts that emerged from different fields to deal with the above four aspects. In light of these overlaps, there exist demands to choose appropriate mathematical techniques that can offer robust solutions. As it stands, there are various techniques (e.g. mathematical morphology, fuzzy set theory, rough set theory, granular computing, map algebra) to address the challenges. The motivation stems from the following observation. For groups, which are familiar with both spatial information theory and theories involved in digital image processing and analysis, most of these ideas are quite familiar. But, surprisingly there has been little interaction between the groups respectively familiar with image processing and spatial information theory. This seminar is intended to serve as a forum for bringing together specialists in those two groups and facilitate interaction. Location: The seminar will be held in the Indian Statistical Institute-Bangalore Centre. It is about 55kms from Bangalore International Airport. Indian Statistical Institute, 8th Mile, Mysore Road, RVCE Post, Bangalore 560 059, Phone: 91 80 28483002/3/4/5/6, Fax: 91 80 28484265. ISI-Bangalore Web Page: http://www.isibang.ac.in. Seminar Website: www.isibang.ac.in/~sirarm List of Invited Speakers: Sankar Kumar Pal, John G Stell, Sanghamitra Bandyopadhya, R. Krishnan, C Bhagavathi, V. Venugopal, P. Mukund Rao, P. Venkatachalam, A. Neelameghan, B. S. P. Rao. REGISTRATION DETAILS The number of participants will be restricted to 30 and admission to the Seminar will be strictly on a ?first-come-first-served? basis. The Seminar Speakers will include experts from India and abroad and will be drawn from both the academia and industry. The Registration fee for the seminar is Rs. 1500/-. The fee covers the cost of course material, lunch and tea. The fee should be paid in the form of a Crossed Demand Draft payable at Bangalore drawn in favour of the Indian Statistical Institute. Accommodation at a nominal cost could be arranged for a limited number of participants on a ?first-come-first-served? basis in the Guesthouses attached to the Indian Statistical Institute. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Registration Form -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seminar on SPATIAL INFORMATION RETRIEVAL, ANALYSIS, REASONING AND MODELLING 18th?20th March 2009 Registration Form 1. Name 2. Designation and affiliation 3. Address 4. Telephone Number(s) 5. Demand Draft No, Name of the Bank and Date 6. Whether Accommodation is required? YES/NO For further details contact: B. S. Daya Sagar DRTC, Indian Statistical Institute 8th Mile, Mysore Road, Bangalore 560 059, India E-mail: bsdsagar at isibang.ac.in N.B.: For up-to-date extended details, please browse through the seminar website at: www.isibang.ac.in/~sirarm -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From shafi_sm at rediffmail.com Mon Mar 9 20:29:45 2009 From: shafi_sm at rediffmail.com (Dr. S M.SHAFI) Date: 9 Mar 2009 14:59:45 -0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Fw: INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive for College Message-ID: <20090309145945.43977.qmail@f4mail-235-146.rediffmail.com> ? The reaction of prof . Laxman Rao is timely and significant . The professionals and leaders should debate , experiment and resOlve to adopt FOSS in their profeesional endeavours. but it does not absolve associtions and nationals institutions of their prime duty to DEVELOP, upgrade VARIOUS softwares with due concern to the economics keepig in view number and level of libraries for overalll development of the society. best wishes Prof S M SHAFI On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 Prof.N.Laxman Rao. wrote : > >helo friends > >it is so unfortunate many have purchased SOUL and are experiencing both gud and bad. why can't they write their experiences. INFLIBNET is an institution and people come and go, but Institution survives. we had lot of expectations from the earlier heads including the present head, who is efficient, successful and matured professional. > >people must be able to forward their real (no bias) reactions both negative and positive. It is so sad that we do not react on any issue especially burning issues relating to our profession. we need to also OBJECTIVELY react on several issues such as performance of associations, organisations (such as NISCAIR, NATIONAL LIBRARY) book depositary act, NKC recommendations (i want to bring to ur notice that the Central Advisory Board of Education, CABE has rejected recommendations). > >LET US NOT TAKE THE INDIVIDUALS AS A CASE AND KEEP QUITE DUE TO OUR RELATION / OBLIGATION TO THEM AS THE INSTITUTIONS AND PROFESSION IS IMPORTANT. > >I WROTE THE COMENT ON SOUL based on more than 100 installations in Andhra Pradesh, where not more than single digit (if i am right it is just two colleges are using partially (one of them is Mr Laxma Reddy). our comments and reactions enables the concerned to re-examine the issues for better. > >as some one suggested that the cost of SOUL is also very high. one of the comment that is stated is that it is gud on the basis of evaluation but not on real use? even the INFLIBNET can opt for NEWGENLIB and develop and provide service (iam not an advocate for single software). we can also think of other open source software also? we can see the LINUX, a open source software the way it is developing at faster rate. > >ULTIMATELY IT IS THE PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE TO USE AND ENJOY OR SUFFER BY CHOOSING A SOFTWARE. > >WITH MANY YOUNGSTERS, WHO ARE DYNAMIC NEED TO COME FORWARD AND CLAIM UR RIGHT TO LEARN AND WORK. > >WITH BEST WISHES TO ALL MY PROFESSIONAL FRIENDS > >LAXMAN RAO > >--- On Sat, 7/3/09, S K DEsale wrote: > > > From: S K DEsale > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Fw: INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive for College librararies > > Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 11:22 AM > > Dear Professionals, > > > > SOUL is also good software and it is also good to see that > > INFLIBNET is come > > up with new version.Since INFLIBNET already spend lot of > > time and money on > > SOUL so there is no point in discarding this software. > > Instead of that > > INFLBNET should think of making it open source. This will > > save > > INFLIBNET from spending on development of this software. > > INFLIBNET should > > spend more on training of this software so that more and > > more people start > > using this software. It will help to identify the problems > > in software and > > those can be corrected. > > > > I am agreed with Prof Rao that NEWGENLIB is better > > software. I have > > installed NEWGENLIB but I have problem in importing data > > from libsys to > > NEWGENLIB. Can anybody guide me on that? > > > > On 3/5/09, Prof. N. Laxman Rao. > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > i hav one question to all of u, do u think tht the > > SOUL satisfy the needs > > > of academic institution. every one feels tht it is not > > user friendly and the > > > features are not really tht gud. still the INFLIBNET > > is spending huge money > > > on development and in turn we donot get service. > > regarding the product i > > > request all the professionals to give their practical > > expereince in view of > > > other software including NEWGENLIB. > > > i feel tht whn such a wonderful software is there the > > INFLIBNET shd make > > > attempts to develop the open source software and train > > the library > > > professionals from colleges in using the software. let > > the INFLIBNET join > > > with the KESAVAN INSTITUTE with a MOU and provide > > cheap but better service. > > > i will appreciate all the professionals to react > > whether the INFLIBNET shd > > > spend money on unfinished product with no or meagre > > support? > > > > > > an expert director, Dr Jagdish Arora shd seriously > > think of this and let > > > the INFLIBNET NOT waste on these things? > > > > > > thanks > > > laxman rao > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 5/3/09, ravindra kale > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: ravindra kale > > > > Subject: INFLIBNET has launched new Version of > > Soul 2.0 - Very Expencive > > > for College librararies > > > > Date: Thursday, 5 March, 2009, 11:39 AM > > > > Respected Moderator, > > > > > > > > Kindly published this massage. > > > > > > > > Dear Library Professionals, > > > > > > > > Today, INFLIBNET has launched new Version of Soul > > 2.0. The > > > > Terms and Condition and price are available on > > the following > > > > link. > > > > > > > > http://www.inflibnet.ac.in/soul/SOUL2rates.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > The Price is too expensive. INFLIBNET had > > introduced - > > > > AMC- Annual Maintenance Charges. As UGC Funded > > Institution > > > > like INFLIBNET Should rethink about the Price > > structure. > > > > Specially In Limited Version / College version > > they should > > > > provide the Software between the price 15,000 To > > 20,000 > > > > Rupees and 1 lak records and AMC ???Should be > > maintain > > > > between 3,000 to 5,000 Thousand Rupees. This is > > my humble > > > > request and suggestion To Dr. Jagdish Arora, > > Director, > > > > INFLIBNET Centre, Ahmedabad. > > > > This is what I feel and want to share with you. > > Kindly give your > > > > suggestions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ravindra Suryakant Kale > > > > Librarian > > > > Narmada College of Management > > > > MBA Programme, > > > > Shukla Tirth Road > > > > Zadeshwer ??? 392 011 > > > > Bharuch > > > > Gujarat > > > > Email : kale_ravi at yahoo.com > > > > Phone : 9427159186 > > > > Dated : 05/03/2009 > > > > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > > >_______________________________________________ >LIS-Forum mailing list >LIS-Forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in >http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090309/a96f1ea6/attachment-0001.html From savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz Tue Mar 10 12:40:47 2009 From: savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz (savitra sirohi) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:40:47 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB (I.R.N.Goudar) Message-ID: <8cf6c9ba0903100010u48a3bc38qd78ac5839c0ecad6@mail.gmail.com> All, As part of a private sector software company offering commercial services for Koha, kindly allow me to offer my 2 cents on this interesting topic: 1. Why ignore Koha: the discussion inexplicably ignores Koha. Dr. Goudar even said "stop promoting Koha". Let us remember following about Koha vis a vis Newgenlib: * Wider worldwide installed base * Stronger vendor support (14 worldwide) * Wider and more active user community * Stronger feature set * A true open source software (also older) that over time has matured the powerful open source software development processes The future potential of any open source software is directly related to these factors and in my view it is likely Koha will retain and even extend its advantages over other packages. 2. SOUL as open source: This is an interesting thought. The market is better served by several competing open source and commercial packages. The problem is SOUL is Windows based. Windows licenses will likely become a barrier to adoption and market adoption is the oxygen that drives open source software development. But SOUL can only benefit by becoming open source, this might be something worth trying. 3. Open Source Software Support & Role of Government entities: People have called for Government entities to support open source software. This is a welcome move, but the implicit assumption is that the private sector is unwilling or unable to offer services at low rates. Would like to point out that today we are 1 of 3 private companies offering Koha support in India. Our rates are comparable to those offered by Government entities. Also the private sector in general is more innovative, responsive and service oriented. Governments should to get involved only in case of market failures, today when India is an IT powerhouse, taxpayer's money is better spent on more pressing areas. A transparent, competitive, mostly private sector ecosystem will best serve the consumers and the country. Thank You, Savitra Sirohi MD, Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) > From: "I.R.N.Goudar" > Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Dear Professionals, > Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis-forum soon after > the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My message answers > few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin in discussing > the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, Suchika, etc. > At this juncture of avilability of open source software, what should be > our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like INFLIBNET, > NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc should do? Government has > spent lot of ?money various agencies for the development of good library > automation ?system. Some of them were cooked half? Discontinued further > developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? Some of > them did not get good support after sale or implementation? While I have > full confidence in the capability and vision of present director of > INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my basic question > is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts and spend > money on such developments, when so many open source softawre are > available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source flatform, uses only > open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national level we > should have customization, migration and support service > arrangements on any open system we adopt. MY LIS-FORUM MESSGE SENT ON > 11 JAN 2008, GIVES SOME SUGGESTIONS IN THIS MATTER (Copy enclosed below) > Goudar > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:25:02 +0530 (IST) > From: I.R.N.Goudar > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Subject: [LIS-Forum] NewGenLib-What next? > > > Dear Professionals, > > Great news! NewGenLib, library automation software has become open source > software. ?I appreciate the initiative and gesture of Dr. LJ Haravu and his > team of Keshvan Kesavan Institute of Information and Knowledge Management, > Hyderabad and also those who are behind this move. I am proud of this unique > gift for L&IS and KM community in the world by Indian librarian community. ?I > have seen the demonstration of this software, it uses open source platforms and > other tools, confirms to open source standards unlike many commercial software. > The features and the functionalities are of high standard. I am quite sure that > this move will revolutionise library automation and digital library activities > in a big way especially in India. > > This welcome development raises many questions: > > a. What would be the role of Mr. Haravu and his colleagues now onwards? > b. Who would support the further development of NewGenLib? > c. Who would give the support for installation, customization and > ? ? porting the whole data if one would like to migrate to this software? > > d. What about the libraries who have baought NewGenLib earlier? etc > > I have following suggestions in this matter: > > a. Few Government institutions ?like DESIDOC, DSIR, NIC, INFLIBNET and > Erstwhile INSDOC also have developed library automation software like > Maithriyee, Sanjay, ?SOUL, E-Granthalaya, Granthalaya, Suchika, etc. ?I > strongly feel that all these institutions and others interested should put > their efforts in further development and implementation of NewGenLib in all > academic, specialized, public and industrial libraries in India in a synergized > manner instead of wasting their manpower, time and money on their products. > > b. All Indian LIS schools should teach NewGenLib software as a part of their > curriculum. ?Institutions like, DRTC, NCSI, NISCAIR can take the lead for > developmental activities and training program. ?Keshavani Institute ?should get > sizeable aid from Governmental agencies to carry ?forward the activity. ?Dr. > Haravu's group can help the individual libraries for installation, > customization, porting, etc and charge nominally for the service. > > c. National Knowledge Commission, ILA, IASLIC, SIS and other library > associations should make note of this development and ?extend suitable help and > guidance. > > d. Departments of Public Libraries of different states should not only adopt > this software, but try to extend their help in the development of this > software. > > e. We should stop promoting KOHA in our country. > > f. All professionals should come forward in further development of NewGEnLib > and should help to compile good manual. Better we have a discussion group > specifically meant for this puepose. > > g. NewGenLib has a nice module for Union Catalogue. We should make use of this > to have Union Cataloges say of all Universities, State level Public Libraries, > all CSIR Labs, etc. > > Initially we should hold one day brain storming round table meeting of > selected ?15-20 top ?level Indian librarians in the country who have > successfully ?automated their libraries in a big way and few LIS Faculty along > with Dr. Haravu ?and his technical team. I request Dr. ARD Prasad of DRTC to > take a lead in this matter. > > ONCE AGAIN CONGRATULATIONS AND HEARTFELT THANKS TO DR. HARAVU AND KESHAVAN > INSTITUTE. > > Goudar > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. I.R.N. Goudar ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Tel: 91-80-25086081 > Sci F & Head, Information Centre for ? ? ?91-80-25235315 > Aerospace Science and Technology ? ? ? ? ?Fax: 91-80-25268072 > National Aerospace Laboratories ? ? ? ? ? E-mail:goudar at css.nal.res.in > Airport Road, BANGALORE-560 017 ?India > http://www.icast.org.in/staff/goudar.html > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From gmahesh at niscair.res.in Tue Mar 10 15:23:56 2009 From: gmahesh at niscair.res.in (gmahesh at niscair.res.in) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:23:56 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Members, Dr. Goudar has raised certain very valid points. We need to certainly laud the efforts that have gone into the development of NewGenLib. The software has emerged as a globally competitive open source ILMS and that is a commendable feat which all of us should feel proud about. But in a free market, I am not sure if it is appropriate to align with any one product as suggested. Dr. Goudar himself has pointed out that many softwares in the past did not survive. That is because these softwares were not accepted by libraries for whatever reasons including poor after sales, no marketing, partially developed and so on. Therefore, in my humble opinion, we should with an open mind accept the developments that are happening, be it Koha, SOUL or NewGenLib and leave it to the libraries to adopt whichever software they are comfortable with. Regards, G. Mahesh NISCAIR ----------------------------------------- This email was sent using NISCAIR's web mail service. "" http://niscair.res.in/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From kanakanala at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 17:10:55 2009 From: kanakanala at gmail.com (Sridhar K) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:10:55 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Required Librarian / Asst.Librarian for an Engineering College - Hyderabad Message-ID: Dear All Aryabhata Institute of Technology & Science Engineering College requires the following Library Professionals from Hyderabad region, Please may forward your resumes to the maild id given below 1. Libraian - 01 - MLISc with good exposure to computer knowledge 2. Asst. Libraian - 01 - MLISc/BLISc with good exposure to computer knowledge Aryabhata Institute of Technology & Science Near Maheshwaram 'X" Roads, Rangareddy Dist. Andhra Pradesh e-mail: kanakanala at gmail.com for further information visit the website - www.aryabhata-its.ac.in -- K SRIDHAR REDDY BMKC, Hyderabad -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090310/b8b862a7/attachment.html From haravu at newgenlib.com Wed Mar 11 08:52:56 2009 From: haravu at newgenlib.com (Jai Haravu) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:22:56 -0700 Subject: [LIS-Forum] NewGenLib workshop Message-ID: Dear Members A reminder that the next hands-on workshop on NewGenLib will be held during 24-26 Mar 2009 at the Dept. of Library and Information Science (DLIS), Mysore University. The workshop, designed as an intensive one and will emphasize both concepts as well an individual hands-on exercises. The details of the workshop and registration for it can be downloaded from: http://www.verussolutions.biz/web/newgenlib_workshop_mysore.doc Haravu -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090310/c58303ea/attachment.html From dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 10:13:55 2009 From: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com (DINESH SIDDAIAH) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:43:55 +0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Views on Forums Postings Message-ID: <62c911520903102143l44134e6btaf24cd9b386224a3@mail.gmail.com> Views on Forums Postings I would like to express few things about Barman reply on activitie sof various Forums. Some of the issues repeatedly appearing in the forums may be boring to old members, but it is really useful to new members. 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URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090311/60e50943/attachment.html From angrosh at isim.ac.in Wed Mar 11 10:45:44 2009 From: angrosh at isim.ac.in (Angrosh) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:45:44 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] ISiM Development Dialogue (1) with Dr. Jessica Wallack, March 11, 2009, 3:00 p.m. Message-ID: <002101c9a208$7a2cbc40$6e8634c0$@ac.in> International School of Information Management, University of Mysore ISiM Development Dialogue (1) Date: March 11, 2009 Time : 3.00 PM to 4.30 PM "Knowledge is power. Information is empowering" Development Dialogues is a series of small group interactive sessions to understand the different dimensions and challenges of development, especially from the perspective of transformative potential of data for development and democracy. An initiative called, WikiGyan - Data for decision making, democracy and development is currently underway at ISiM. WikiGyan is an effort to build both tools and systems for data management, data analytics, and visualisation. Huge amounts of data is generated and collected by the governments, non governmental organisations, academic and other organisations, across societal issues - elections, health, literacy, etc. WikiGyan facilitates the management of such societal data for development. The Development Dialogue (1) scheduled for March 11, 2009 at 3.00 PM will have the following two scholars: Dr. Jessca Wallack, Director, Centre for Development Finance and Professor, Institute for Financial and Management Research, Chennai Ms. Shannon Stanhake, Senior Researcher, Centre for Development Finance, Chennai Discussants in this Dialogue include the following: Mr. P. Manivannan, IAS, Deputy Commissioner of Mysore Mr. R.L. Rinawma, Commissioner of Income Tax, Mysore Prof. V.K.Natraj Prof. P.K.Mishra Prof. Umapathi Brief Bio of the Scholars Dr. Jessica Wallack Dr. Jessica Wallack is Director of the Centre for Development Finance and Professor, Institute for Financial and Management Research. Her work focuses on the factors that create successful partnerships and dialogue between entrepreneurs, NGOs, corporations, and governments. Current projects include research on the politics and economics of private participation in infrastructure development in India and Latin America as well as evaluation and design of various e-governance technologies for local governments in India. She is also working on several projects on generation and dissemination of development data, and especially on data's potential role in supporting activism and local government performance. Dr. Wallack holds a Ph.D. from Stanford University Graduate School of Business and a B.A. from Harvard University. Ms. Shannon Spanhake Ms. Shannon Spanhake is Senior Researcher at Centre for Development Finance. She was recently named Grace Hopper's "Top 100 Women Innovating Science and Technology" and was rewarded with a NextEarth Fellowship after reaching the semi-finalist round in the Buckminster Fuller Inventor's competition. Her research investigates the transformative potential for technology to enable policy discourse by providing access and legibility to information through alternate modes of articulation in the production of knowledge. Spanhake serves as a technology adviser to the Ministry of the Environment and the Department of Energy in Peru, the IDA of Singapore, and is collaborating with Science agencies in both Nigeria and the UK. 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URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090311/e558dd70/attachment-0001.html From goudar at nal.res.in Wed Mar 11 17:29:45 2009 From: goudar at nal.res.in (I.R.N.Goudar) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:29:45 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] FREE Open Access-Conf Message-ID: NO REGISTRATION FEE (All are welcome, PLEASE FORWARD THIS MAIL TO INTERESTED, Circulate in your Institute for Faculty, Scientists, LIS staff,etc.) One Day Conference on Scholarly Communication in India in the Age of the Commons(Open Access) 26th March, 2009: 9.30AM - 4.15PM Venie: S.R. Valluri Auditorium National Aerospace Laboratories, Bangalore-560017 --------------- ORGANIZERS: National Aerospace Laboratories (as a part of its Golden Jubilee Celebrations) Indian Academy of Sciences Centre for Internet and Society PARTICIPANTS: Welcome to Policy makers, Academicians, Scientists, Editors, Publishers, Media persons, Librarians, etc. TOPICS COVERED: Scholarly Communication, Research Publication Issues, Copyrights of Publishing Authors, Publishers Attitude, Open Access (OA) Movement, OA Scenario in the World and India OA Declarations, OA Channels: OA Journals, Repositories, OA Policy: National and Institutional Level, OA Challenges: Economic, Societal Impact of OA on Science Communication INAUGURAL KEYNOTE: Prof. HS Mukunda, Vice President, Indian Academy of Sciences SPEAKERS: Prof. John Willinsky, Stanford University Prof. Leslie Chan, University of Toronto Dr D K Sahu, MedKnow Publications Dr. Sunil Abraham, Director, Centre for Internet and Society PANEL DISCUSSION: 2.45 - 4.15 pm "Scholarly Communication and Openness: Emerging Trends" Prof. P Balaram, Director, IISc & Editor, Curr. Sci. CHAIRMAN Prof. John Willinsky, Stanford University Panelist Prof. Leslie Chan, University of Toronto Panelist Dr. A.R. Upadhya, Director, NAL Panelist Mr. N.V. Sathyanarayana, MD,Informatics India Panelist Prof. Subbiah Arinachalam, Centre for Internet and Soc. Panelist BACKGROUND: Open Access to the scientific literature means the removal of barriers, including price barrier, for accessing scholarly work. In today's knowledge based society the advent of Internet and widespread and easy access to scientific information are facilitating research and innovation. Open Access is not only changing the nature of scholarly communication but even the way research is carried out. Indeed open access is the bedrock on which the emerging global research library initiative is being built. Scientists and scientific institutions in India - some of them to be precise - have moved up in the value chain in that they access information and disseminate their findings often through barrier-free electronic channels. Out of about 4500 open access journals (OAJ) world over, India accounts for 150 titles. The major Indian contributors for OAJ include Indian Academy of Sciences, Indian National Science Academy, MedKnow Publications and NISCAIR. About 50 institutes have set up their institutional open access repositories including IISc, NAL, NIO, RRI, IIAP, IITs, etc. Prof. Samir Brahmachari, Director General of CSIR, came up with the Open Source Drug Discovery programme as an alternative to the traditional patent-driven model of drug research. Recently CSIR has adopted open access policy as recommended by its Group of Open Access Science Publications. Thus open access - both for accessing worldwide information and for making our own research more visible - is not new to India. But one must admit that considering the size of India's research and higher education enterprise what we have achieved so far is utterly inadequate to commensurate with our ambition to become a knowledge power. We have a long way to go. And the first step is to adopt open access nationwide. This one day conference on "Conference on Scholarly Communication in India in the Age of the Commons" is organized to take stock of the current developments in Open Access and to highlight the issues that would need to be addressed to enable a wider access to scientific knowledge and to enhance the visibility of research performed in India. PS: While spot registration is allowed, we request you to kindly register through e-mail along with name, designation, address, contact telephone and e-mail. We have not made any arrangements for accommodation. 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From satish.dpnd at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 19:51:49 2009 From: satish.dpnd at gmail.com (SatishDpnd@Adroit) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:51:49 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-NewGenLib-OpenSource Debate Message-ID: <003601c9a254$ba1c76f0$0201a8c0@satish824e4306> In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message 2 and earlier discussions on the topic Dear LIS professionals The debate on NewGenLib v/s SOUL is simply not necessary because I feel both are meant for different segments of LIS market. SOUL was developed by INFLIBNET years back under the aegis of UGC to support academic Library community which at that time was unable to invest in proprietary LMS. The initial College edition of SOUL was costing merely Rs.15,000/- (until recently) when proprietary standalone LMS was costing Rs.1 lac. There are more than 1600 SOUL installations in India. Just think of them ! What should they do ? Get free-upgrade of SOUL 2.0 (with moderate costs of installation) or go for NewGenLib/Koha which is free and open source. SOUL 2.0 has added many more facilities to its previous version. It's web-based, many International Standards have been adopted and it is SIP2/NCIP compatible too. Now think of those smaller libraries which have only couple of staff, what should they do ? Use readily available upgraded LMS or switch over to free, open source NewGenLib or Koha - for which neither they have expertise nor time to devote. All of us those who are adopting Open Source software know very well that it needs substantial staff-time-investment - may it be for data migration, customising each function to suit to one's needs or even fixing small problem of default currency. Open Source LMS is only a powerful engine, but whether one can make a racing car out of it or not depends upon availability of the workshop facilities, latest tools and machinery, research staff to support and designing team to take care of its dynamics. Therefore I would not blindly support Open Source just because it is almost free compared to proprietary LMS - but would strongly advocate use of SOUL 2.0 by those who would like to concentrate more on user-services than breaking their heads in customising Open Source LMS. SOUL 2.0 is a step towards upgrading efficiency of LIS community as a whole at very negligible input costs. Those who feel the SOUL 2.0 rates are high should enquire for rates for proprietary LMS in the market, and also how much would it cost to customise Open Source with facilities which are offered by SOUL 2.0. I have yet not come across any fully operational Open Source LMS in any of the large Libraries in India. Many open source agencies claim that each and every module/facility can be customised, e.g. Template designs, RSS Feeds, Blogs, Federated Search, scheduled auto e-mail generators, Customised Reports, MIS stats, Online Reservation facility, built-in SIP2/NCIP, Video-streaming facility through web-OPAC, importing records from web catalogues, exporting records in variety of formats, remote log-ins, Serials Management etc., but when it comes to practical implementation, it takes months together to mould them to match needs of the organisation. Therefore I will never ever criticise indigenous LMS like SOUL. It is/was developed for specific cause/purpose and not for competing with proprietary LMS or to discourage use of Open Source LMS. We all should recommend it to all those who are short of resources and do not have time/expertise to customise freely available open-source. Would certainly welcome your views Happy LMSing ! satish deshpande formerly Head British Council Library Ahmedabad Mentor, Nirma University Libraries; Adviser, KM&IC, National Institute of Design, Ahmedabad M : 098250 30460 email : satish.dpnd at gmail.com In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message 2 > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) > From: "I.R.N.Goudar" > Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Dear Professionals, > Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis-forum soon after > the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My message answers > few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin in discussing > the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, Suchika, etc. > At this juncture of avilability of open source software, what should be > our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like INFLIBNET, > NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc should do? Government has > spent lot of money various agencies for the development of good library > automation system. Some of them were cooked half? Discontinued further > developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? Some of > them did not get good support after sale or implementation? While I have > full confidence in the capability and vision of present director of > INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my basic question > is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts and spend > money on such developments, when so many open source softawre are > available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source flatform, uses only > open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national level we > should have customization, migration and support service > arrangements on any open system we adopt. MY LIS-FORUM MESSGE SENT ON > 11 JAN 2008, GIVES SOME SUGGESTIONS IN THIS MATTER (Copy enclosed below) > Goudar > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. I.R.N. Goudar Tel: 91-80-25086081 > Sci F & Head, Information Centre for 91-80-25235315 > Aerospace Science and Technology Fax: 91-80-25268072 > National Aerospace Laboratories E-mail:goudar at css.nal.res.in > Airport Road, BANGALORE-560 017 India > http://www.icast.org.in/staff/goudar.html > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090311/69c821fa/attachment-0001.html From haravu at newgenlib.com Thu Mar 12 02:55:15 2009 From: haravu at newgenlib.com (Jai Haravu) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:25:15 -0700 Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB (I.R.N.Goudar) (Saitra Sirohi) and ohers Message-ID: <2E9E568AD29F4F5F92773AABC683D1FB@JaisLENOVO> Dear Members A number of useful thoughts have emerged from the discussion on SOUL, Inflibnet's role, NewGenLib and Koha. I would also like to add to the discussion, hopefully in an objective and non-partisan manner. 1.. First and foremost we need to accept the fact that open source solutions (in all domains and application areas) are increasingly considered to be not only credible alternatives but also cost-effective in the long run if the community behind such software is an active participant. Good examples of strong communities are seen in Koha and Evergreen. 2.. Part of the reason why Koha and Evergreen have strong communities is because of strong social and cultural influencess in the countries where they are most actively used, e.g., USA. I must comment here that in India, we do not have the same approach either because we don't think it is needed or simply we do not have the needed infrastructure. For instance, even today many libraries in India do not have relaible Internet access. In such cases, how can we expect better community participation. The extent to which members of a community support each other (in spite of commercial support) in India leaves much to be desired. I am afraid, our score card on sharing our resources and knowledge freely with other professionals via forums and local associations is poor. 3.. NewGenLib is a good example of inadequate community involvement. We have trained over 1000 library and IT staff in India in NewGenLib but we do not see many of them participating in community forums. 4.. I agree with Mr Mahesh of NISCAIR, that in a competitive world, all manner of products have a place in the sun. Libraries should be free to choose what they consider is useful to them. 5.. I believe that an important consideration in choosing a software is the extent to which it supports local practices. I am aware that NewGenLib has attempted to cater to the many practices (some may not be considered good practices) that libraries in India follow. For instance, some libraries still ask for quotations from vendors before they place orders for books. I know for sure that in NewGenLib we have been called upon (often at great expense) to customize the software to suit a unique requirement in a library. Similarly, in India, bodies such as AICTE and NAAC ask for ceratin types of reports during their annual inspection visits. Software developed in India (SOUL and NewGenLib) would have provided for these. 6.. Equally important is the potential that a software has to take note of and leverage new technologies, and of the rapid shifts that are taking place, e.g., the need for API's, web services, open schemas and social web features. 7.. All said and done, I would agree with the view that SOUL should also be made open source so that there would be more options for libraries. When a poorly funded venture behind NewGenLib could be made open source, I really do not see why a well funded, quasi-governmental agency cannot make it open source. 8.. Finally, I would like to state that in this world "There is no such thing as a Free Lunch". Open source developers have to survive and if they charge for services these should be paid for willingly. Koha has the backing of commercial companies in the US and elsewhere and I am sure they will not be sustainable only wth Koha if libraries do not pay for services. In the case of NewGenLib, I am aware that we have many problems convincing libraries and managements that open source does not mean FREE, it is more abour FREEDOM of choice, freedom to change, freedom from vendor hegemony, freedom to ask for new features, etc.. Thanks. Haravu Trustee, Kesavan Inst of Information and Knowledge Management 1.. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090311/e9b5b637/attachment-0001.html From jag.arora at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 18:07:55 2009 From: jag.arora at gmail.com (Jagdish Arora) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:07:55 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software Message-ID: <3d1242e00903120537g5153eb15yd43895ce715abf76@mail.gmail.com> Dear colleagues, I have been carefully going through the comments on SOUL V/s open source software for past few days. I would like straighten-out a few points that were raised by Prof. Laxman Rao in his mail addressed to professional colleagues: 1. SOUL Software works on a self-sustenance model. The INFLIBNET Centre is not investing huge money on the Software. All expenses on the SOUL including, R & D, maintenance, salary for SOUL Coordinators, Technical Assistants, etc. is born from the sale of SOUL software, in fact, the Centre have saved funds from sale of SOUL and this savings is being now used for further strengthening the support system for SOUL; 2. SOUL support and maintenance system has been strengthened now. We had only two coordintors in the past. We have now deployed five SOUL Coordinators, two more will be engaged shortly. Each SOUL Coordinator can have two to three Technical Assistants depending upon the number of installations in a given region. In all, there will be seven Coordinators and 21 Technical Assistants. SOUL Software Support Unit is also functioning from the INFLIBNET Centre for past more than 8 months. Expenses on strenghthened support system is being born from income from SOUL software. 3. SOUL 2.0 has several new features and functionalities. Senior library professionals are advised to examine the product and then give their considered opinion. I am sure Prof. Laxman Rao did not have opportunity to see SOUL 2.0. A large number of library professionals have helped us with their feed-back during development of SOUL 2.0. Actual users were in involved in various phases of development. Feedback from most of the Library professionals has been highly positive for SOUL 2.0. My Software Team at the INFLIBNET Centre has worked day and night to bring the software to this stage. The 2nd version of Software was developed in a record time to less than one year. It is in-appropriate to criticize a product without even fully exploring its features and functionalities. 4. Dr. Satish Deshpande, Dr. Haravu, Dr. Sathyanarayana (JNTU), Dr. Goudar and other colleagues have already given their considered views about open source software and co-existence of other LMS packages. The SOUL Software has its own followers. We have more than 1800 installations and number is growing inspite of existence of several open source software. We are committed to all our existing clients. The software will be given free of cost to all our existing clients with all the support that they require. 5. The INFLIBNET Centre has set-up an Open Source Software Laboratory. Our scientists are working on all open source software including NewGenLib. I would like to re-iterate here that for most library science professionals, open source essentially means ?free? software, they neither have expertise nor resources to customize it. I know a couple of big libraries who are struggling with open source software LMS packages without much success. It would be our endevour not only to provide support for all or selected open source software, but also contribute to their development. 6. The price of SOUL 2.0 and its associated services were fixed as per the guidelines laid down by the our Governing Board. We had to consider cost of inputs in terms of manpower, infrastructure, etc. However, we can revisit the prices, if desired. 7. As on now, the INFLIBNET is not considering to make SOUL 2.0 an open source given the fact that it is developed for Microsift OS, a proprietary OS. We are committed to develop it further, make it completely platform independent and then we may consider to make it open source. I would like to ensure the academic community and library professionals that the INFLIBNET Centre is doing its best and results are already visible. Thanks and regards Dr. Jagdish Arora Director, INFLIBNET Centre Opp. Gujarat University Guest House Post Box No. 4116, Navrangpura Ahmedabad, Gujarat - 380009 Tel: +91 79 26305702 (Direct) +91 79 26308528, 26304695,26305971 Mobile: 09974881882 Fax: +91 79 26300990 and 26307816 E-mail: jarora at inflibnet.ac.in; director at inflibnet.ac.in -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From kps31147 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 12 21:41:04 2009 From: kps31147 at yahoo.com (Sadasivan KP) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LIS-Forum] IDENTITY CRISIS Message-ID: <648775.15148.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear All, It has become a common practice among the decision-making agencies/organizations in our country - be it UGC or AICTE or Pay Commissions or their implementing Committees in various Universities, IIMs, IITs, etc.- to bracket Librarians along with Physical Education Directors. By default ( or by 'mercy' ?) the LIS Professionals are put under this common umbrella ! Sometimes our fraternity feels it even as a 'great privilege' to have been 'granted' such an 'enviable (!) status' ! One has absolutely no intention to belittle the Physical Education Profession . But what is of serious concern is? : Are the LIS Professionals such an insignificant species of professionals, always to be bracketed (at the tail end) with a group whose activity domain is totally different? Are we aware of the possible dangers of the 'chain action' of such a concept in various activity environments? Do we not have an identity of our own vis-a-vis the main stream academic & research pursuits ? Are we not playing a participatory / contributory / catalytic role in the academic and research programmes of the main stream - unlike the Physical Education Profession? Are we not better identifiable with the scholarly / learning groups in the Campuses ? Are we satisfied with the plea for 'academic status' by just getting salaries & scales alone ? My decades of experience with a couple of national R&D organizations in the country had helped me to observe / conclude that such institutions/organizations and serious scientists always recognized, acknowledged and appreciated the contributions made by Libraries & Librarians. They have understood the proximity and bondage of our activities with their research programmes. I am sure,? our fraternity in the R&D sector, by and large, will subscribe to this view. Registrar of a University is not clubbed with DPE. Why not Librarians too? Is not the Librarian's status/role thus unique, if not closer to the academic community? Are we prepared to digest anything in the name of 'parity' ? This is a matter of deeper impact, interpretations and inferences in the backdrop of the professional image and identity of LIS. Our esteemed LIS Forum readers may comment. SADASIVAN? KP Former Head, Library & Informatics NIIST (CSIR) , Trivandrum Tel. 919447903282 (Mob) E-Mail: kps31147 at yahoo.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090312/6c08e850/attachment.html From vimal0212 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 10:59:49 2009 From: vimal0212 at gmail.com (Vimal Kumar) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:59:49 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] How to organize workshops and seminars more productive Message-ID: <5b978ad90903112229w4a45c8cbr2cb2c953d249f825@mail.gmail.com> Dear Friends, I am writing this piece for drawing the attention of library professionals who are going to organize workshops, seminar and other related events. Recently lot of announcements of such programmes received through popular online discussions forums. Most of the announcements contained minimum information and had no provision to know more about the programme. Library professionals are missing the opportunity to attend professional development activities due to the lack of getting proper information. Getting professional training and knowledge enhancement through various programmes are important for professional development. Library professionals who are involved in organizing continuing education programme deserve appreciation. Organizers should care to capture and disseminate the knowledge emanated in professional development activities. In most of the cases, no facilities arranged to capture the talk and seem no related activities after the programs. Here are my humble suggestions to make the career development programmes more worth. 1. Create a workshop/seminar website. If no technical help available, make use a blog service for this purpose. Blogs are suitable for fast and frequent content updating. 2. Provide maximum details in website. Organise information under various heads, e.g. Registration, Paper submission, Accommodation, etc. Schedule the sessions as early as possible. 3. Avoid displaying entire brochure in picture format in website. Huge brochure file will take time to display the content. 4. Make use Open Conference Systems (http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=ocs) to automate conference activities. 5. Announce the seminar/workshop at least 30 days before. It will help the working professionals to obtain permission from authority and make arrangement for travel. 6. Remember to give programme website link in discussion forum posting. 7. If organizers have no plan to publish submitted papers, make arrangement for archive papers in institutional or any public repository (e.g. http://eprints.rclis.org) 8. Make available workshop kit online after the event. 9. Arrange facilities for post conference discussions. 10. Record key talks and publish it online using streaming audio/video services (e.g. youtube.com) In this way, library professionals not able to attend the programmes can access the content of the seminar/workshop. -- Vimal Kumar V. Asst. Librarian Asian School of Business Technopark, Trivandrum-695 581 Web: www.asb.edu.in/vimal/ Blog: http://vimalkumar.oksociety.in OK Society Volunteer. http://oksociety.in --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I forget what I was taught. I only remember what I have learnt" -Patrick White -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090312/ae24a347/attachment-0001.html From esukhdev at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 11:16:33 2009 From: esukhdev at gmail.com (Sukhdev Singh) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:16:33 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-NewGenLib-OpenSource Debate In-Reply-To: <003601c9a254$ba1c76f0$0201a8c0@satish824e4306> References: <003601c9a254$ba1c76f0$0201a8c0@satish824e4306> Message-ID: Dear All, I don't think we should shy away from any debate. But unfortunately LIS Community in India seems to be relatively shy of healthy debates. If I am given a chance to implement a Library Automation System, I would prefer a model in the following order: 1. Open Source Solution. For the freedom it provides in terms of 'owning' the systems for long term use. I won't mind taking a paid support service. 2. Free Software. For it won't burden my budgets and won't trouble me with approvals of higher authorities. 3. Commercial Solution. I would be going for it if none is available in Open Source domain. I will keep myself ready for migration to an Open Source Solution. I still feel that efforts required for training and implementation remains the same for all models of softwares. I would still like to hear more on KOHA Vs NewGenLib. I am impressed with the Delhi Public Library's ( http://dpl.gov.in/ ) implementation of KOHA, though I have no idea of inside story about it. I would like to see NewGenLib's implementation available for public view. Thanks --Sukhdev Singh. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:51 PM, SatishDpnd at Adroit wrote: > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message 2 and earlier > discussions on the topic > > > Dear LIS professionals > > The debate on NewGenLib v/s SOUL is simply not necessary because I feel both > are meant for different?segments of LIS market. ?SOUL was developed by > INFLIBNET years back under the aegis of UGC to support academic Library > community which at that time was unable to invest in proprietary LMS.? The > initial College edition of SOUL?was costing merely Rs.15,000/- (until > recently) when proprietary standalone LMS?was costing?Rs.1 lac.? There are > more than 1600 SOUL installations in India.? Just think of them !? What > should they do ?? Get free-upgrade of SOUL 2.0?(with moderate costs of > installation) or go for NewGenLib/Koha which is free and open source.??SOUL > 2.0?has added many more facilities to its previous version.? It's web-based, > many International Standards have been adopted and it is SIP2/NCIP > compatible too.? Now think of those smaller libraries which have only couple > of staff, what should they do ?? Use readily available upgraded LMS or > switch over to free, open source NewGenLib or Koha - for which neither they > have expertise nor time to devote. > > All of us those who are adopting Open Source software know very?well that > it?needs substantial staff-time-investment - may it be for data migration, > customising each function to suit to one's needs or even fixing small > problem of default currency.??Open Source LMS is only a powerful engine, but > whether?one?can make a racing car out of it?or not depends upon availability > of the workshop facilities, latest tools and machinery, research staff to > support and designing team to take care of its dynamics.? Therefore I would > not blindly support Open Source just because it is?almost free compared to > proprietary LMS - but would strongly advocate use of SOUL 2.0 by those who > would like to concentrate more on user-services than breaking their heads in > customising Open Source LMS. > > SOUL 2.0 is a step towards upgrading efficiency of LIS community as a whole > at very negligible input costs.? Those who feel the SOUL 2.0 rates are high > should enquire for? rates for proprietary LMS?in the market, and also how > much would it cost to customise Open Source?with facilities which are > offered by SOUL 2.0. > > I have yet not come across any fully operational Open Source LMS in any of > the large Libraries in India.? Many open source agencies claim that?each and > every module/facility?can be customised, e.g. Template designs, RSS Feeds, > Blogs, Federated Search, scheduled auto e-mail generators, Customised > Reports, MIS stats, Online Reservation facility, built-in SIP2/NCIP, > Video-streaming facility through web-OPAC, importing records from web > catalogues, exporting records in variety of formats, remote log-ins, Serials > Management?etc., but when it comes to practical implementation, it takes > months together to mould them to match needs of the organisation. > > Therefore I will never ever criticise?indigenous?LMS like SOUL.? It is/was > developed?for specific cause/purpose and not for competing with proprietary > LMS or to?discourage use of Open Source LMS.? We all should recommend it to > all those who are short of resources and do not have time/expertise to > customise freely available open-source. > > Would certainly welcome your views > > Happy LMSing ! > > satish deshpande > formerly Head British Council Library Ahmedabad > > Mentor, Nirma University Libraries; Adviser, KM&IC, National Institute of > Design, Ahmedabad > M?????:?? 098250 30460 > email :? satish.dpnd at gmail.com > > > > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message 2 > >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) >> From: "I.R.N.Goudar" >> Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB >> To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> Dear Professionals, >> Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis-forum soon after >> the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My message answers >> few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin in discussing >> the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, Suchika, etc. >> At this juncture of avilability of open source software, what should be >> our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like INFLIBNET, >> NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc should do? Government has >> spent lot of? money various agencies for the development of good library >> automation? system. Some of them were cooked half? Discontinued further >> developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? Some of >> them did not get good support after sale or implementation? While I have >> full confidence in the capability and vision of present director of >> INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my basic question >> is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts and spend >> money on such developments, when so many open source softawre are >> available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source flatform, uses only >> open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national level we >> should have customization, migration and support service >> arrangements on any open system we adopt. MY LIS-FORUM MESSGE SENT ON >> 11 JAN 2008, GIVES SOME SUGGESTIONS IN THIS MATTER (Copy enclosed below) >> Goudar >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Dr. I.R.N. Goudar???????????????????????? Tel: 91-80-25086081 >> Sci F & Head, Information Centre for????? 91-80-25235315 >> Aerospace Science and Technology????????? Fax: 91-80-25268072 >> National Aerospace Laboratories?????????? E-mail:goudar at css.nal.res.in >> Airport Road, BANGALORE-560 017? India >> http://www.icast.org.in/staff/goudar.html >> >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LIS-Forum mailing list >> LIS-Forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in >> http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum >> > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From puna_05 at yahoo.co.in Thu Mar 12 17:19:40 2009 From: puna_05 at yahoo.co.in (Puna Das) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:19:40 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] UNESCO releases Digital archiving of audio content using WINISIS and Greenstone software: a manual for community radio managers Message-ID: <654195.26879.qm@web95403.mail.in2.yahoo.com> UNESCO releases Digital archiving of audio content using WINISIS and Greenstone software: a manual for community radio managers 12-03-2009 (New Delhi) UNESCO Office in New Delhi has published Digital archiving of audio content using WINISIS and Greenstone software: a manual for community radio managers. This self-instructional handbook is aimed at helping managers of community and FM radio stations, public service broadcasting agencies and any other organizations that deal with audio files create prototype archives of digital audio documents. Free and open source software (FOSS) helps digital inclusion of citizens in developing countries through easy-to-get and socially useful applications. UNESCO?s information processing tools assist many grassroots institutions in disseminating information to local communities. Digital archive of a community radio station can be a knowledge repository containing collective wisdom of indigenous people, as well as of regional communities and institutions. The South Asian sub-region is now at the nascent stage of community radio development, with the introduction of policy frameworks in India, Nepal and other countries. Community radio has a great development potential across the sub-region with ever increasing number of community radio stations. To maintain an archive of broadcasted contents is a legal obligation as a self-regulatory mechanism, however many stations are not equipped for doing this.. Moreover, community radio stations often need to re-use and re-broadcast many of their archived contents. This new publication is a reliable manual for digital archiving of multimedia contents, with special focus on community radio contents. Its users will find it helpful in their every-day work. The publication has its genesis in the recommendations and proceedings of two events, supported by UNESCO: National Consultation on Community Radio for Practising and Potential Community Radio Operators in India and National Consultation to Review Community Radio in Nepal, during which community radio station managers stressed the importance of archiving digital audio contents. In line with the needs of the community, the manual guides users in creating their own archives with stable, free software like WINISIS, GenISIS and Greenstone. The book also provides the URL addresses from where this software can be downloaded. 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From lib.wrd.2008 at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 13:00:36 2009 From: lib.wrd.2008 at gmail.com (Charu) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:00:36 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Admission in Online Certificate Courses Message-ID: Respected Friends, Greetings for the day, Indian Law Institute, Bhagwan Das Road, New Delhi has announced following *Online Certificate Courses* for *April 2009* batch? *1. **Cyber laws* (This course will cover the fundamentals of Cyber Law and Cyber World, Regulatory Framework, Cyber Crime and E-Commerce) *2. **Intellectual Property Rights and Information Technology in this Internet Age* (This course will cover the basic laws of Patents, Copyright, Trademarks and Management in IPRs) *Duration:* Three months commencing form 1st April 2009. *Fees:* Rs. 3500/- or 150 US $ (for foreign students) *Last Date:* *31st Mach 2009.* * * Application Form and other relevant details can be accessed from ILI?s website, i.e. www.ilidelhi.org. Regards, Miss Charu Mathur. 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URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090313/75969cae/attachment.html From ksc at library.iisc.ernet.in Fri Mar 13 12:03:32 2009 From: ksc at library.iisc.ernet.in (ksc at library.iisc.ernet.in) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:03:32 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] IDENTITY CRISIS In-Reply-To: <648775.15148.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <648775.15148.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What Mr. Sadasivam argues is correct. Now, it is time for the Library and information science community to point out to the govt. and other agencies about the scholarly nature of work involved in libraries and library schools. As many surveys have indicated, it is the practioners who bring about turning points in research solutions as they have to do something to meet the demands of the user community Chudamani From abhishekverma81 at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 12:28:24 2009 From: abhishekverma81 at gmail.com (Abhishek Verma) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:28:24 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] VACANCY- LIBRARY ASSISTANT Message-ID: <9308afa40903122358w62645ac5na90073b6130243e1@mail.gmail.com> DEAR MODERATOR PLEASE POST THIS ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE POST OF LIBRARY ASSISTANT IN ISRO, WHOSE WEB LINK IS......http://www.isac.gov.in/Library/advt.jsp AND THE DETAILS ARE GIVEN BELOW GOVERNMENT OF INDIA DEPARTMENT OF SPACE INDIAN SPACE RESEARCH ORGANISATION Advertisement No: ISRO HQ/01/2009 dated 18-02-2009 The Indian Space Research programme began in the sixties with the launch of modest sounding rockets for scientific investigations. 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The candidate before filing his/her application has to take a DD for Rs.100/- from any of the Nationalized Bank in favour of the Sr. Accounts Officer, ISRO HQ, Bangalore, payable at Bangalore. The Applicant should enter the DD Number, date and name of the Bank in the space provided for the same in the web application. * After filing the application, on-line, the applicant has to send the DD with his/her Full Name (as entered in web), Post and Registration No. written on the reverse of the DD to Administrative Officer(GA), ISRO Headquarters, Antariksh Bhavan, New BEL Road, Bangalore -560 231 by ordinary post superscribing on the envelope "ISRO RECRUITMENT-Library Assistant". Please note that applications, in respect of which DDs have not been received with Name as mentioned in the application and Registration Number on the reverse, will not be considered. * Scheduled Castes (SC), Scheduled Tribes (ST) and Persons with Disabilities (PWD) candidates are exempted from Application Fee. However, SC/ST and PWD candidates will have to send attested Caste Certificate and Medical Certificate of Board respectively by post to Administrative Officer (GA) duly indicating the Name, Post No. and Reg.No. on the reverse. Applications of candidates claiming SC/ST/PWD status and therefore exemption from Application Fee will be considered only if the duly attested Caste Certificate/Medical Certificate is received. * The DD/Caste Certificate/Medical Certificate and `No Objection Certificate' in respect of candidates employed under Central/State Govt/PSU/Autonomous Body should reach ISRO Headquarters, Bangalore within seven days of filing the applications by the candidates and in any case not later than 10-04-2009. Selection Process: * The qualification prescribed is the minimum requirement and the same does not automatically make candidates eligible for the interview. The candidate should have First Class in the Qualifying Degree ie, M.Lib or equivalent. Based on bio-data, initial screening will be conducted to short-list candidates for interview. Candidates short-listed will be called for interview, the schedule and venue of which will be intimated. Candidates attending the interview will be reimbursed to and fro second-class train fare by the shortest route from the address given in the application to the place of interview. Pay and Allowances: * Selected candidate will be appointed as Library Assistant -A in the pay band of Rs. 9300-34800 + 4200 (Grade Pay). Total emoluments (including DA, HRA, TA, etc) at present is Rs. 21300/- per month approximately in Bangalore. The employees will be governed by the New Pension Scheme. ISRO provides attractive benefits to its employees such as medical facilities for self and dependants, subsidized canteen, free transport [or in lieu transport allowance], limited housing facility for fresh entrants [or in lieu HRA], advances for purchase of conveyance, construction of house, Leave Travel Concession, Group Insurance, etc. * The DOS/ISRO has a periodical review system under which the accomplishments of Scientific/ Technical personnel are assessed and those found suitable will be promoted to higher grade as per the existing rules after a prescribed residency period without reference to vacancies, and as amended from time to time. Other Conditions/Instructions: * The posts are temporary, but likely to continue. * The appointees are liable to be posted in any of the Centres/ Units of the Indian Space Research Organisation/Department of Space situated anywhere in India as and when required. For details of ISRO Centres/Units, please visit http://www.isro.gov.in/isro_centres.htm * Candidates called for interview will have to produce all relevant original documents in proof of details furnished in their applications submitted on-line, at the time of interview. If any information furnished on-line is found to be wrong or false, the candidate will not be interviewed and TA will not be paid. * ISRO reserves the right not to fill up all or any of the posts, if it so decides. * Only Indian nationals need apply. * No interim correspondence will be entertained. * In case of any clarification candidates may send their mail to recruit at isro.gov.in Do not use 'Back' and 'Forward' button of your browser while filling up online application form. To get the online application form, please click on the Post Name below. Post Number Post Name Educational Qualification No.of Posts Reservation 01 Library Assistant-A Graduate + Master's Degree in Library Science/Library & Information Science with First Class or equivalent 01 UR UR- Un-reserved (General) JOIN ISRO AND SHAPE-UP YOUR CAREER SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE WITH TALENTED SCIENTIST COMMUNITY SUPPORT NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT ---------o---------- -- Abhishek Verma Parliament Library Lok Sabha Secretariat, New Delhi -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From rajesh at inflibnet.ac.in Fri Mar 13 16:36:05 2009 From: rajesh at inflibnet.ac.in (Rajesh Chandrakar) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:36:05 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Fw: SOUL Software Message-ID: Dear Moderator, kindly distribute it to the forum members as the content seems to be for the forum members. With best regards Rajesh ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Jagdish Arora To: 'Rajesh Chandrakar' ; 'Yatrik Patel' Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 4:18 PM Subject: FW: SOUL Software I suppose, this is written for the Forum. Regards Jagdish Arora From: principal [mailto:pgcdatia at rediffmail.com] Sent: 13 March 2009 12:50 To: director at inflibnet.ac.in Subject: SOUL Software Dear Friends SOUL has been designed Keeping in view the needs of academic instituions.It is user friendly and for redressed of complaints and for help SOUL Support centre have been established in every zone I am using SOUL foe past 6 years and maximum work of my library in being done through SOUL. In Higher Education M.P>SOUL was selected to the used after comparing them with other software in operation SOUL is being used in about 250 institutions in M.P. SOUL2.0 was developed as per the recommendation and needs of the existing soul users. N.S. YADAV Librarian Govt. P.G. Collage Datia Mob. 9425777461 13-03-09 Dr. G. K. Shrivastava PRINCIPAL GOVT. (AUTONOMOUS) POSTGRADUATE COLLEGE, DATIA (M.P.) Phone No. - (07522) 234538, 238574 Fax -(07522) 401847: Mobile No. 094257-41428 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090313/63ca1f0a/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NSyadav.doc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 20480 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090313/63ca1f0a/attachment-0001.obj From psm_bu at india.com Fri Mar 13 17:13:51 2009 From: psm_bu at india.com (Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:43:51 +0800 Subject: [LIS-Forum] OpenSource Debate Message-ID: <20090313114351.98BD87BD58@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> Dear all A good logical and time befitting debate started at last. I'm completely agreed with Mr. Singh and would like to add a few point in that .... 1. Close source commercial LMSs are non-transparent in the use and application of standards, whereas FLOSS based LMSs are very clear in this direction (take the example of Koha, right from the 1999 it is trying to follow and implement all the global internationally agreed upon standards e.g. EDIFACT, NCIP, Z39.50 etc.); 2. Close source commercial LMSs are still not compliant with Web 2.0 tools, techniques and philosophy. FLOSS based LMSs are quite accommodative in this regard, for example, Koha 3 is RSS compliant (it produce RSS feed for every search query issued by users), supports Tag submission by users to describe a resource, users can post their comments on a particular resource available in the library. In short it follows participative architecture or user-at-the centre stage model. Unfortunately no other LMSs is presently web 2.0-enableb; 3. Koha (2.x and 3.x) is web-centric in architecture; 4. Fully compatible with Unicode 5.1 and thereby ensures storing, processing and retrieval of Indic script based resource (see www.granthalaya.org for a live demo); 5. Koha 3 supports information mashup - in fact we are noe able to snatch cover page images from Amazon without scanning pages or writing a single line of code (see the site of Department of LIS, University of Burdwan @ http://burdwan01.kwc.kohalibrary.com/ - search digital library or LIS related terms). Hope to see a brave open world Dr. Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay Department of Library and Information Science University of Burdwan, Burdwan, Rajbati - 713104, WB --------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sukhdev Singh" > To: "SatishDpnd at Adroit" > Cc: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-NewGenLib-OpenSource Debate > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:16:33 +0530 > > > Dear All, > > I don't think we should shy away from any debate. But unfortunately > LIS Community in India seems to be relatively shy of healthy debates. > > > If I am given a chance to implement a Library Automation System, I > would prefer a model in the following order: > > 1. Open Source Solution. For the freedom it provides in terms of > 'owning' the systems for long term use. I won't mind taking a paid > support service. > > 2. Free Software. For it won't burden my budgets and won't trouble me > with approvals of higher authorities. > > 3. Commercial Solution. I would be going for it if none is available > in Open Source domain. I will keep myself ready for migration to an > Open Source Solution. > > I still feel that efforts required for training and implementation > remains the same for all models of softwares. > > I would still like to hear more on KOHA Vs NewGenLib. I am impressed > with the Delhi Public Library's ( http://dpl.gov.in/ ) implementation > of KOHA, though I have no idea of inside story about it. I would like > to see NewGenLib's implementation available for public view. > > Thanks > > --Sukhdev Singh. > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:51 PM, SatishDpnd at Adroit > wrote: > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message 2 and earlier > > discussions on the topic > > > > > > Dear LIS professionals > > > > The debate on NewGenLib v/s SOUL is simply not necessary because I feel both > > are meant for different segments of LIS market. SOUL was developed by > > INFLIBNET years back under the aegis of UGC to support academic Library > > community which at that time was unable to invest in proprietary LMS. The > > initial College edition of SOUL was costing merely Rs.15,000/- (until > > recently) when proprietary standalone LMS was costing Rs.1 lac. There are > > more than 1600 SOUL installations in India. Just think of them ! What > > should they do ? Get free-upgrade of SOUL 2.0 (with moderate costs of > > installation) or go for NewGenLib/Koha which is free and open source. SOUL > > 2.0 has added many more facilities to its previous version. It's web-based, > > many International Standards have been adopted and it is SIP2/NCIP > > compatible too. Now think of those smaller libraries which have only couple > > of staff, what should they do ? Use readily available upgraded LMS or > > switch over to free, open source NewGenLib or Koha - for which neither they > > have expertise nor time to devote. > > > > All of us those who are adopting Open Source software know very well that > > it needs substantial staff-time-investment - may it be for data migration, > > customising each function to suit to one's needs or even fixing small > > problem of default currency. Open Source LMS is only a powerful engine, but > > whether one can make a racing car out of it or not depends upon availability > > of the workshop facilities, latest tools and machinery, research staff to > > support and designing team to take care of its dynamics. Therefore I would > > not blindly support Open Source just because it is almost free compared to > > proprietary LMS - but would strongly advocate use of SOUL 2.0 by those who > > would like to concentrate more on user-services than breaking their heads in > > customising Open Source LMS. > > > > SOUL 2.0 is a step towards upgrading efficiency of LIS community as a whole > > at very negligible input costs. Those who feel the SOUL 2.0 rates are high > > should enquire for rates for proprietary LMS in the market, and also how > > much would it cost to customise Open Source with facilities which are > > offered by SOUL 2.0. > > > > I have yet not come across any fully operational Open Source LMS in any of > > the large Libraries in India. Many open source agencies claim that each and > > every module/facility can be customised, e.g. Template designs, RSS Feeds, > > Blogs, Federated Search, scheduled auto e-mail generators, Customised > > Reports, MIS stats, Online Reservation facility, built-in SIP2/NCIP, > > Video-streaming facility through web-OPAC, importing records from web > > catalogues, exporting records in variety of formats, remote log-ins, Serials > > Management etc., but when it comes to practical implementation, it takes > > months together to mould them to match needs of the organisation. > > > > Therefore I will never ever criticise indigenous LMS like SOUL. It is/was > > developed for specific cause/purpose and not for competing with proprietary > > LMS or to discourage use of Open Source LMS. We all should recommend it to > > all those who are short of resources and do not have time/expertise to > > customise freely available open-source. > > > > Would certainly welcome your views > > > > Happy LMSing ! > > > > satish deshpande > > formerly Head British Council Library Ahmedabad > > > > Mentor, Nirma University Libraries; Adviser, KM&IC, National Institute of > > Design, Ahmedabad > > M : 098250 30460 > > email : satish.dpnd at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message 2 > > > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) > >> From: "I.R.N.Goudar" > >> Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB > >> To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > >> Message-ID: > >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > >> > >> Dear Professionals, > >> Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis-forum soon after > >> the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My message answers > >> few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin in discussing > >> the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, Suchika, etc. > >> At this juncture of avilability of open source software, what should be > >> our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like INFLIBNET, > >> NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc should do? Government has > >> spent lot of money various agencies for the development of good library > >> automation system. Some of them were cooked half? Discontinued further > >> developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? Some of > >> them did not get good support after sale or implementation? While I have > >> full confidence in the capability and vision of present director of > >> INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my basic question > >> is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts and spend > >> money on such developments, when so many open source softawre are > >> available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source flatform, uses only > >> open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national level we > >> should have customization, migration and support service > >> arrangements on any open system we adopt. MY LIS-FORUM MESSGE SENT ON > >> 11 JAN 2008, GIVES SOME SUGGESTIONS IN THIS MATTER (Copy enclosed below) > >> Goudar > >> > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Dr. I.R.N. Goudar Tel: 91-80-25086081 > >> Sci F & Head, Information Centre for 91-80-25235315 > >> Aerospace Science and Technology Fax: 91-80-25268072 > >> National Aerospace Laboratories E-mail:goudar at css.nal.res.in > >> Airport Road, BANGALORE-560 017 India > >> http://www.icast.org.in/staff/goudar.html > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >> believed to be clean. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> LIS-Forum mailing list > >> LIS-Forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > >> http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > >> > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > > LIS-Forum mailing list > > LIS-Forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > -- _______________________________________________ Search for products and services at: http://search.mail.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From haravu at newgenlib.com Sat Mar 14 01:03:58 2009 From: haravu at newgenlib.com (Jai Haravu) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:33:58 -0700 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Library Schools - research and development in the US Message-ID: Dear Members I am a member on an interesting list for new generation cataogs. The discussions are varied and interesting. One recent thread concerns the poor contributions of library schools in the US to research and development and I am quoting below the posting. Members in India are critical, sometimes uneasonably, of library schools in India who work under much more constarints and I thought it would be useful to see that the situation in the US so far as new frontiers, R & D are not much different. I suppose, we should not feel smug about this but see indeed how we can also improve our own research outputs so that they make a useful contribution to the profession in general. The post I am referring to is quoted below. "The library schools tend to be very small, with small faculties and small student bodies, and without tremendous support from their parent institutions. Moreover, they are divided into two groups: those that have a significant concentration (possibly a separate degree) in information science and those that don't. There are certainly some determined and creative researchers among the faculties, but it's not a large community, even across all the schools, and the existence of a community of people among whom to discuss, argue, imagine, float ideas, encourage, compete, etc. really would help in building a body of active researchers in the areas that this group is interested in. (And even within the profession at large, there is not a culture of research and experimentation. There is instead a culture of service, and a culture of day-to-day. The library schools could help in this regard by inculcating their students and graduates with an understanding that research, experimentation, investigation, thinking, etc. are essential parts of their work. Personally, I'm not holding my breath.) Some potential for useful and well-funded research emanating from library schools would seem to lie in collaboration between for-profit entities (such as OCLC, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, III) and academics. Unfortunately, although you are singing my song (that is, the song that bemoans the dearth of creative research EITHER on the frontiers of librarianship OR within its heartland), I'm also one of those who sings in the chorus in the background and only occasionally dares a solo." 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Collection Development 3. Keeping up with the profession 4. Reference Service 5. Information Literacy 6. Resource Sharing 7. Promotional Activities 8. Training and Development for Libraries 9. Technology Access 10. Implementing Technology 11. Information Sharing and Education 12. Successful Collaborations 13. Information Media 14. Corporate Librarianship 15. Bibliometrics and Scientometrics 16. Preservation and Conservation 17. Open Archives Guidelines for submissions are : 1. The heading should include the title, followed by the name address, telephone and email address of the author(s) who will be presenting the paper. 2. The paper should be sent in the Word format. 3. The paper should not exceed more than 5 pages and must fit A4 size paper and if required must be able to print clearly. Final submission of papers can be made upto 20 April,2009. Word copy of the complete paper should be sent to or emailed to: DR. 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From kspsubudhi at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 09:09:21 2009 From: kspsubudhi at gmail.com (Subudhi KSP) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:09:21 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Congratulations to Ms.K.Usha Message-ID: <3eb41cf90903142039s19acd79ex9fa39593b2f65f52@mail.gmail.com> K.S.P.Subudhi, Scientist/Engineer SE, Library & Documentation Division, ISRO Satellite centre, Airport Road, Bangalore-560017 Dear Sir, Consequent on the superannuation of Dr.M.S.Sridhar as Head, Library & Documentation Division on 28-2-2009, Ms.K.Usha, Scientist/Engineer SF, has been designated as Head, Library & Documentation Division, ISRO Satellite centre, Bangalore-17. Ms.K.Usha's contact and mailing address is given below: Ms.K.Usha, Head, Library & Documentation Division, ISRO Satellite Centre, Airport Road, Vimanapura P.O, Bangalore-560017 Email: ushak at isac.gov.in Tel(Off) +91-80-25084451 Tel(Fax) +91-80-25084476 Yours faithfully, K.S.P.Subudhi -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090315/ea3fbe7d/attachment-0001.html From shankarnadoor at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 10:28:18 2009 From: shankarnadoor at gmail.com (shankar nadoor) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:28:18 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] PC Auto Shutdown Message-ID: Dear All PC Auto Shutdown is a handy software that helps you automatically shutdown, power off, reboot, hibernate, suspend or log off computers at schedule time you specifies. It can shut down computers at schedule time when no user is logged in or when computers are in suspended power conservation mode. It gives you different ways to schedule the shutdown event for your needs, such as daily, weekly and only once. 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'New changes are going to rock the world even more'. 'The future of the web lies in mobile phones'. The detail article may be available at : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7943319.stm - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Regards, Shri Ram Pandey - Asst. Librarian The LNM Institute of Information Technology(LNM IIT) Jaipur(Rajasthan) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From sambhu.halder at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 10:52:29 2009 From: sambhu.halder at gmail.com (Sambhu Nath Halder) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:52:29 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Job opportunity Message-ID: <6cbb9e8d0903152222u70912783od924d33fbdb36c1b@mail.gmail.com> *Rawal Institute of Engineering & Technology* invites application for the post of Librarian. Location: Faridabad ** Key Skills:Requisite knowledge, skills and ability to work regarding Librarian. 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URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090316/eec43e17/attachment.html From pku at nic.in Mon Mar 16 12:56:43 2009 From: pku at nic.in (Upadhyay P K) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:26:43 +0500 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software In-Reply-To: <20090313114351.98BD87BD58@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090313114351.98BD87BD58@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1587da30462ee398.49be4583@nic.in> Dear professionals, My view regarding open source solution vs proprietary are as follows. 1. There are ceratin myths about open source softwares. It is a good topic of discussion and academic study and reserch. But the moment we try to implement, problems arise out. Of course in any new implementation/change, there are problems. People are the most important component in any solution , open source or closed source. 2. Total cost of ownership(TCO) is high in case of open source solution. If you consider the Software installation, server setup, training, AMC, hosting, security, follow-up, customization the cost will be high. In relation to the total implementation, cost of software is negligible. We should not be worry about the open or closed softwares, our motive should be Proper Information Systems Solution. The management and parent organization never stop if a good proposal with time bound implementation is put for financial approval. Government of India has allocated Rs 23000 crore for eGovernance during 11th Plan . Many of the organizations are not able to spend their ICT bugdet or sometime spend anyhow. 3. In India we are fighting for the softwares and codes developed by Western Countries- both Open Source tools, OS, Systems Softwares and majority of the open source softwares( for example Windows, Linux, .NET, JAVA, IIS, Apache, etc). They are developing and launching these projects, and in developping countries including India we are not able to decide which software are to be used. Althogh we should appreciate the efforts of NEWGENLIB team from India and many Open Technology Centres have been started. 4. Only people are talking in fashion of open source, freedom of owning , because it seems free but it's not if you talk of total solution. It has become a fashion to talk of RFID, SmartCard, Web 2.0, Social Networking, MARC, UNICODE, Mobile OPAC, Digital Libraries, etc, even if there is no basic infrastructure like latest hardware, networking infrastructure, web hosting , data entry plan, etc. 5. Earlier also there were almost free software like CDS/ISIS from UNESCO, DELPLUS from DELNET(with only Rs 7500 or so), SOUL for college university from INFLIBNET (with Rs 50000), but libraries did not utilize the opportunity. Majority of libraries does not have capability to understand simple codes of HTML and changing their logo in the software. Actually LIS professionals are not supposed to be programmers. They should be information systems manager. 6. Unless somebody takes responsibility of support or stamps the product, it is not advisable to use the open source softwares . It may be security problem. 7. I have experience of regularly interacting with many big organizations and libraries throughout India that are struggling in selecting the LMS softwares since many years. They have not yet started Data Entry of books. If they could have used even CDS/ISIS or an MS ACCESS database for data entry at least 60% work could have been over in terms of automation. 8 Some libraries I have seen, are not able to publish their OPAC on Internet and maintaning database on local LAN machine. They have used many open source softwares of LMS, Digital Library, Repository learnt in different forums and training programmes. But when question comes of migration, data conversion or enterprise integrating those softwares solutions, they need huge money and running here and there. 9. There are around 5 lakh libraries in the country including schools, hardly 10% of these may be automated using Library Management Softwares. We have to make them automated using open source or closed at the earliest. Here all the stakeholders are required to join and contribute. Only talking of open or closed will not be sufficient. 10. My point in discussing these issues is not to discard the open source softwares, but more of providing the right kind Information Systems solution in totality for Indian libraries. Of course there is open revolution throghout world . with regards P K Upadhyay NIC , Delhi ----- Original Message ----- From: Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay Date: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:18 am Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] OpenSource Debate To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Dear all > > A good logical and time befitting debate started at last. I'm > completely agreed with Mr. Singh and would like to add a few > point in that .... > > 1. Close source commercial LMSs are non-transparent in the use > and application of standards, whereas FLOSS based LMSs are very > clear in this direction (take the example of Koha, right from > the 1999 it is trying to follow and implement all the global > internationally agreed upon standards e.g. EDIFACT, NCIP, Z39.50 > etc.); > 2. Close source commercial LMSs are still not compliant with Web > 2.0 tools, techniques and philosophy. FLOSS based LMSs are quite > accommodative in this regard, for example, Koha 3 is RSS > compliant (it produce RSS feed for every search query issued by > users), supports Tag submission by users to describe a resource, > users can post their comments on a particular resource available > in the library. In short it follows participative architecture > or user-at-the centre stage model. Unfortunately no other LMSs > is presently web 2.0-enableb; > > 3. Koha (2.x and 3.x) is web-centric in architecture; > > 4. Fully compatible with Unicode 5.1 and thereby ensures > storing, processing and retrieval of Indic script based resource > (see www.granthalaya.org for a live demo); > > 5. Koha 3 supports information mashup - in fact we are noe able > to snatch cover page images from Amazon without scanning pages > or writing a single line of code (see the site of Department of > LIS, University of Burdwan @ > http://burdwan01.kwc.kohalibrary.com/ - search digital library > or LIS related terms). > > Hope to see a brave open world > > Dr. Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > Department of Library and Information Science > University of Burdwan, > Burdwan, Rajbati - 713104, WB > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sukhdev Singh" > > To: "SatishDpnd at Adroit" > > Cc: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-NewGenLib-OpenSource Debate > > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:16:33 +0530 > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > I don't think we should shy away from any debate. But unfortunately > > LIS Community in India seems to be relatively shy of healthy > debates.> > > > > If I am given a chance to implement a Library Automation > System, I > > would prefer a model in the following order: > > > > 1. Open Source Solution. For the freedom it provides in terms of > > 'owning' the systems for long term use. I won't mind taking a paid > > support service. > > > > 2. Free Software. For it won't burden my budgets and won't > trouble me > > with approvals of higher authorities. > > > > 3. Commercial Solution. I would be going for it if none is available > > in Open Source domain. I will keep myself ready for migration > to an > > Open Source Solution. > > > > I still feel that efforts required for training and implementation > > remains the same for all models of softwares. > > > > I would still like to hear more on KOHA Vs NewGenLib. I am impressed > > with the Delhi Public Library's ( http://dpl.gov.in/ ) > implementation> of KOHA, though I have no idea of inside story > about it. I would like > > to see NewGenLib's implementation available for public view. > > > > Thanks > > > > --Sukhdev Singh. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:51 PM, SatishDpnd at Adroit > > wrote: > > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message > 2 and earlier > > > discussions on the topic > > > > > > > > > Dear LIS professionals > > > > > > The debate on NewGenLib v/s SOUL is simply not necessary > because I feel both > > > are meant for different segments of LIS market. SOUL > was developed by > > > INFLIBNET years back under the aegis of UGC to support > academic Library > > > community which at that time was unable to invest in > proprietary LMS. The > > > initial College edition of SOUL was costing merely > Rs.15,000/- (until > > > recently) when proprietary standalone LMS was costing Rs.1 > lac. There are > > > more than 1600 SOUL installations in India. Just think > of them ! What > > > should they do ? Get free-upgrade of SOUL 2.0 (with > moderate costs of > > > installation) or go for NewGenLib/Koha which is free and > open source. SOUL > > > 2.0 has added many more facilities to its previous > version. It's web-based, > > > many International Standards have been adopted and it is SIP2/NCIP > > > compatible too. Now think of those smaller libraries > which have only couple > > > of staff, what should they do ? Use readily available > upgraded LMS or > > > switch over to free, open source NewGenLib or Koha - for > which neither they > > > have expertise nor time to devote. > > > > > > All of us those who are adopting Open Source software know > very well that > > > it needs substantial staff-time-investment - may it be for > data migration, > > > customising each function to suit to one's needs or even > fixing small > > > problem of default currency. Open Source LMS is only a > powerful engine, but > > > whether one can make a racing car out of it or not depends > upon availability > > > of the workshop facilities, latest tools and machinery, > research staff to > > > support and designing team to take care of its > dynamics. Therefore I would > > > not blindly support Open Source just because it is almost > free compared to > > > proprietary LMS - but would strongly advocate use of SOUL > 2.0 by those who > > > would like to concentrate more on user-services than > breaking their heads in > > > customising Open Source LMS. > > > > > > SOUL 2.0 is a step towards upgrading efficiency of LIS > community as a whole > > > at very negligible input costs. Those who feel the > SOUL 2.0 rates are high > > > should enquire for rates for proprietary LMS in the > market, and also how > > > much would it cost to customise Open Source with facilities > which are > > > offered by SOUL 2.0. > > > > > > I have yet not come across any fully operational Open Source > LMS in any of > > > the large Libraries in India. Many open source > agencies claim that each and > > > every module/facility can be customised, e.g. Template > designs, RSS Feeds, > > > Blogs, Federated Search, scheduled auto e-mail generators, > Customised> > Reports, MIS stats, Online Reservation facility, > built-in SIP2/NCIP, > > > Video-streaming facility through web-OPAC, importing records > from web > > > catalogues, exporting records in variety of formats, remote > log-ins, Serials > > > Management etc., but when it comes to practical > implementation, it takes > > > months together to mould them to match needs of the organisation. > > > > > > Therefore I will never ever criticise indigenous LMS like > SOUL. It is/was > > > developed for specific cause/purpose and not for competing > with proprietary > > > LMS or to discourage use of Open Source LMS. We all > should recommend it to > > > all those who are short of resources and do not have > time/expertise to > > > customise freely available open-source. > > > > > > Would certainly welcome your views > > > > > > Happy LMSing ! > > > > > > satish deshpande > > > formerly Head British Council Library Ahmedabad > > > > > > Mentor, Nirma University Libraries; Adviser, KM&IC, National > Institute of > > > Design, Ahmedabad > > > M : 098250 30460 > > > email : satish.dpnd at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message 2 > > > > > >> Message: 2 > > >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) > > >> From: "I.R.N.Goudar" > > >> Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB > > >> To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > >> Message-ID: > > >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > >> > > >> Dear Professionals, > > >> Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis- > forum soon after > > >> the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My > message answers > > >> few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin > in discussing > > >> the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, > Suchika, etc. > > >> At this juncture of avilability of open source software, > what should be > > >> our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like > INFLIBNET,> >> NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc > should do? Government has > > >> spent lot of money various agencies for the > development of good library > > >> automation system. Some of them were cooked half? > Discontinued further > > >> developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? > Some of > > >> them did not get good support after sale or implementation? > While I have > > >> full confidence in the capability and vision of present > director of > > >> INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my > basic question > > >> is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts and spend > > >> money on such developments, when so many open source > softawre are > > >> available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source > flatform, uses only > > >> open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national > level we > > >> should have customization, migration and support service > > >> arrangements on any open system we adopt. 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From savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz Mon Mar 16 15:00:57 2009 From: savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz (savitra sirohi) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:00:57 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software Message-ID: <8cf6c9ba0903160230s4a0a1b5ft80c2c9ba8e625b39@mail.gmail.com> Mr. Upadhyay, I agree with many points you raise, but take exception to following: 1. "Total cost of ownership(TCO) is high in case of open source solution" or "In relation to the total implementation, cost of software is negligible" Proprietary software costs can and are significant in many cases: - Operating System Licenses (per server) - Database Server Licenses (per server) - Application Server Licenses (per server) - Development Tool Licenses (costs passed on to customers from vendors) - Client Connectivity (Per User) - Software Upgrades (per license) - Software AMC (per license) The software costs vary from industry to industry, depending on how competitive the markets are. Let us remember that IT product companies (those that charge software licences) are some of the largest and most profitable companies in the world. Some e.g. Microsoft, Oracle, SAP. Of course open source is not just about costs. The success of open source comes from massive market adoption and consequent feedback and contribution from diverse groups of people. And the adoption is fueled because the software is free, there is simply no barrier to people trying such software. 2. "In India we are fighting for the softwares and codes developed by Western Countries". This does not mean we should stop adopting such software. There is no need for "be Indian, buy Indian" mentality, particularly for open source. We in India are free to join any open source community and contribute and benefit from it. Open Source software has no nationality. 3. "Unless somebody takes responsibility of support or stamps the product, it is not advisable to use the open source softwares . It may be security problem." This is similar to the FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) attacks that proprietary software vendors have used in the past to discourage people from using open source. Such assertions have been proved false several times. Let us take a couple of examples, which of these software has security issues: Internet Explorer or Firefox? Microsoft Windows or Linux? Thanks, Savitra Sirohi MD, Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:26:43 +0500 > From: Upadhyay P K > Subject: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Message-ID: <1587da30462ee398.49be4583 at nic.in> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear professionals, > > My view regarding open source solution vs proprietary are as follows. > > 1. There are ceratin myths about open source softwares. It is a good topic > of discussion and academic study and reserch. But the moment we try to > implement, problems arise out. Of course in any new implementation/change, > there are problems. People are the most important component in any solution > , open source or closed source. > > 2. Total cost of ownership(TCO) is high in case of open source solution. If > you consider the Software installation, server setup, training, AMC, > hosting, security, follow-up, customization the cost will be high. In > relation to the total implementation, cost of software is negligible. We > should not be worry about the open or closed softwares, our motive should be > Proper Information Systems Solution. The management and parent organization > never stop if a good proposal with time bound implementation is put for > financial approval. Government of India has allocated Rs 23000 crore for > eGovernance during 11th Plan . Many of the organizations are not able to > spend their ICT bugdet or sometime spend anyhow. > > 3. In India we are fighting for the softwares and codes developed by > Western Countries- both Open Source tools, OS, Systems Softwares and > majority of the open source softwares( for example Windows, Linux, .NET, > JAVA, IIS, Apache, etc). They are developing and launching these projects, > and in developping countries including India we are not able to decide which > software are to be used. Althogh we should appreciate the efforts of > NEWGENLIB team from India and many Open Technology Centres have been > started. > > 4. Only people are talking in fashion of open source, freedom of owning , > because it seems free but it's not if you talk of total solution. It has > become a fashion to talk of RFID, SmartCard, Web 2.0, Social Networking, > MARC, UNICODE, Mobile OPAC, Digital Libraries, etc, even if there is no > basic infrastructure like latest hardware, networking infrastructure, web > hosting , data entry plan, etc. > > 5. Earlier also there were almost free software like CDS/ISIS from UNESCO, > DELPLUS from DELNET(with only Rs 7500 or so), SOUL for college university > from INFLIBNET (with Rs 50000), but libraries did not utilize the > opportunity. Majority of libraries does not have capability to understand > simple codes of HTML and changing their logo in the software. Actually LIS > professionals are not supposed to be programmers. They should be information > systems manager. > > 6. Unless somebody takes responsibility of support or stamps the product, > it is not advisable to use the open source softwares . It may be security > problem. > > 7. I have experience of regularly interacting with many big organizations > and libraries throughout India that are struggling in selecting the LMS > softwares since many years. They have not yet started Data Entry of books. > If they could have used even CDS/ISIS or an MS ACCESS database for data > entry at least 60% work could have been over in terms of automation. > > 8 Some libraries I have seen, are not able to publish their OPAC on > Internet and maintaning database on local LAN machine. They have used many > open source softwares of LMS, Digital Library, Repository learnt in > different forums and training programmes. But when question comes of > migration, data conversion or enterprise integrating those softwares > solutions, they need huge money and running here and there. > > 9. There are around 5 lakh libraries in the country including schools, > hardly 10% of these may be automated using Library Management Softwares. > We have to make them automated using open source or closed at the earliest. > Here all the stakeholders are required to join and contribute. Only talking > of open or closed will not be sufficient. > > 10. My point in discussing these issues is not to discard the open source > softwares, but more of providing the right kind Information Systems solution > in totality for Indian libraries. Of course there is open revolution > throghout world . > > with regards > > P K Upadhyay > NIC , Delhi > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:18 am > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] OpenSource Debate > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > Dear all > > > > A good logical and time befitting debate started at last. I'm > > completely agreed with Mr. Singh and would like to add a few > > point in that .... > > > > 1. Close source commercial LMSs are non-transparent in the use > > and application of standards, whereas FLOSS based LMSs are very > > clear in this direction (take the example of Koha, right from > > the 1999 it is trying to follow and implement all the global > > internationally agreed upon standards e.g. EDIFACT, NCIP, Z39.50 > > etc.); > > 2. Close source commercial LMSs are still not compliant with Web > > 2.0 tools, techniques and philosophy. FLOSS based LMSs are quite > > accommodative in this regard, for example, Koha 3 is RSS > > compliant (it produce RSS feed for every search query issued by > > users), supports Tag submission by users to describe a resource, > > users can post their comments on a particular resource available > > in the library. In short it follows participative architecture > > or user-at-the centre stage model. Unfortunately no other LMSs > > is presently web 2.0-enableb; > > > > 3. Koha (2.x and 3.x) is web-centric in architecture; > > > > 4. Fully compatible with Unicode 5.1 and thereby ensures > > storing, processing and retrieval of Indic script based resource > > (see www.granthalaya.org for a live demo); > > > > 5. Koha 3 supports information mashup - in fact we are noe able > > to snatch cover page images from Amazon without scanning pages > > or writing a single line of code (see the site of Department of > > LIS, University of Burdwan @ > > http://burdwan01.kwc.kohalibrary.com/ - search digital library > > or LIS related terms). > > > > Hope to see a brave open world > > > > Dr. Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > > Department of Library and Information Science > > University of Burdwan, > > Burdwan, Rajbati - 713104, WB > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sukhdev Singh" > > > To: "SatishDpnd at Adroit" > > > Cc: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-NewGenLib-OpenSource Debate > > > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:16:33 +0530 > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I don't think we should shy away from any debate. But unfortunately > > > LIS Community in India seems to be relatively shy of healthy > > debates.> > > > > > > If I am given a chance to implement a Library Automation > > System, I > > > would prefer a model in the following order: > > > > > > 1. Open Source Solution. For the freedom it provides in terms of > > > 'owning' the systems for long term use. I won't mind taking a paid > > > support service. > > > > > > 2. Free Software. For it won't burden my budgets and won't > > trouble me > > > with approvals of higher authorities. > > > > > > 3. Commercial Solution. I would be going for it if none is available > > > in Open Source domain. I will keep myself ready for migration > > to an > > > Open Source Solution. > > > > > > I still feel that efforts required for training and implementation > > > remains the same for all models of softwares. > > > > > > I would still like to hear more on KOHA Vs NewGenLib. I am impressed > > > with the Delhi Public Library's ( http://dpl.gov.in/ ) > > implementation> of KOHA, though I have no idea of inside story > > about it. I would like > > > to see NewGenLib's implementation available for public view. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > --Sukhdev Singh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:51 PM, SatishDpnd at Adroit > > > wrote: > > > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message > > 2 and earlier > > > > discussions on the topic > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear LIS professionals > > > > > > > > The debate on NewGenLib v/s SOUL is simply not necessary > > because I feel both > > > > are meant for different segments of LIS market. SOUL > > was developed by > > > > INFLIBNET years back under the aegis of UGC to support > > academic Library > > > > community which at that time was unable to invest in > > proprietary LMS. The > > > > initial College edition of SOUL was costing merely > > Rs.15,000/- (until > > > > recently) when proprietary standalone LMS was costing Rs.1 > > lac. There are > > > > more than 1600 SOUL installations in India. Just think > > of them ! What > > > > should they do ? Get free-upgrade of SOUL 2.0 (with > > moderate costs of > > > > installation) or go for NewGenLib/Koha which is free and > > open source. SOUL > > > > 2.0 has added many more facilities to its previous > > version. It's web-based, > > > > many International Standards have been adopted and it is SIP2/NCIP > > > > compatible too. Now think of those smaller libraries > > which have only couple > > > > of staff, what should they do ? Use readily available > > upgraded LMS or > > > > switch over to free, open source NewGenLib or Koha - for > > which neither they > > > > have expertise nor time to devote. > > > > > > > > All of us those who are adopting Open Source software know > > very well that > > > > it needs substantial staff-time-investment - may it be for > > data migration, > > > > customising each function to suit to one's needs or even > > fixing small > > > > problem of default currency. Open Source LMS is only a > > powerful engine, but > > > > whether one can make a racing car out of it or not depends > > upon availability > > > > of the workshop facilities, latest tools and machinery, > > research staff to > > > > support and designing team to take care of its > > dynamics. Therefore I would > > > > not blindly support Open Source just because it is almost > > free compared to > > > > proprietary LMS - but would strongly advocate use of SOUL > > 2.0 by those who > > > > would like to concentrate more on user-services than > > breaking their heads in > > > > customising Open Source LMS. > > > > > > > > SOUL 2.0 is a step towards upgrading efficiency of LIS > > community as a whole > > > > at very negligible input costs. Those who feel the > > SOUL 2.0 rates are high > > > > should enquire for rates for proprietary LMS in the > > market, and also how > > > > much would it cost to customise Open Source with facilities > > which are > > > > offered by SOUL 2.0. > > > > > > > > I have yet not come across any fully operational Open Source > > LMS in any of > > > > the large Libraries in India. Many open source > > agencies claim that each and > > > > every module/facility can be customised, e.g. Template > > designs, RSS Feeds, > > > > Blogs, Federated Search, scheduled auto e-mail generators, > > Customised> > Reports, MIS stats, Online Reservation facility, > > built-in SIP2/NCIP, > > > > Video-streaming facility through web-OPAC, importing records > > from web > > > > catalogues, exporting records in variety of formats, remote > > log-ins, Serials > > > > Management etc., but when it comes to practical > > implementation, it takes > > > > months together to mould them to match needs of the organisation. > > > > > > > > Therefore I will never ever criticise indigenous LMS like > > SOUL. It is/was > > > > developed for specific cause/purpose and not for competing > > with proprietary > > > > LMS or to discourage use of Open Source LMS. We all > > should recommend it to > > > > all those who are short of resources and do not have > > time/expertise to > > > > customise freely available open-source. > > > > > > > > Would certainly welcome your views > > > > > > > > Happy LMSing ! > > > > > > > > satish deshpande > > > > formerly Head British Council Library Ahmedabad > > > > > > > > Mentor, Nirma University Libraries; Adviser, KM&IC, National > > Institute of > > > > Design, Ahmedabad > > > > M : 098250 30460 > > > > email : satish.dpnd at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message 2 > > > > > > > >> Message: 2 > > > >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) > > > >> From: "I.R.N.Goudar" > > > >> Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB > > > >> To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > >> Message-ID: > > > >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > >> > > > >> Dear Professionals, > > > >> Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis- > > forum soon after > > > >> the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My > > message answers > > > >> few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin > > in discussing > > > >> the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, > > Suchika, etc. > > > >> At this juncture of avilability of open source software, > > what should be > > > >> our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like > > INFLIBNET,> >> NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc > > should do? Government has > > > >> spent lot of money various agencies for the > > development of good library > > > >> automation system. Some of them were cooked half? > > Discontinued further > > > >> developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? > > Some of > > > >> them did not get good support after sale or implementation? > > While I have > > > >> full confidence in the capability and vision of present > > director of > > > >> INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my > > basic question > > > >> is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts and spend > > > >> money on such developments, when so many open source > > softawre are > > > >> available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source > > flatform, uses only > > > >> open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national > > level we > > > >> should have customization, migration and support service > > > >> arrangements on any open system we adopt. 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From esukhdev at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 00:57:43 2009 From: esukhdev at gmail.com (Sukhdev Singh) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:57:43 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software In-Reply-To: <1587da30462ee398.49be4583@nic.in> References: <20090313114351.98BD87BD58@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> <1587da30462ee398.49be4583@nic.in> Message-ID: Thanks Friends for carrying out the debate further. Regarding Total cost of ownership(TCO), on the very outset let me quote "there is still debate over how to measure the total cost of ownership of open source versus proprietary systems". (http://sn.im/dx10z) . I maintain my argument that any solution (Open, Free or Closed) will require Servers, Network Infrastructure, Manpower to handle installation, alternation and alignment of System Processes (Library Process here) and training of the Staff and Users of the system. It is obvious that different libraries would be have different constraints. Some may be flushed with funds while others may be facing cuts in their budgets specially in corporate sector (They anyway might be having tough time in current difficult economic situation). Some may be having highly trained manpower while others might be having computer departments at their disposal. For some the library operations may be critical and time dependent (Large Universities Libraries ) for others even manual system will still work (Small Departmental or School Libraries). And some Libraries and Librarians may still survive and flourish without even thinking of automation. Let us not loose our focus just because there is such an heterogeneous environment in India. But then, this is true for all spheres in India. Marutis and bullock carts run on the same road here. We must try to understand one thing, Libraries have very long life cycle. Libraries survive through generations. Atleast they survive for the life of their parent organizations. However Software Life Cycle is extremely short. A software version may hardly survive three years. Version updates is a matter of norm. So, continued updates from the software developer are a must. So, while selecting software, this issue has to be kept in mind. Now since, Libraries are meant to survive over generations; the ideal software for libraries would be that whose developer survives over generations. Not just survive but keep on developing the software with new requirements and in accordance to best technologies available in time. Now let us apply this test on commercial developers. Commercial developers work for business profitability. They will survive and keep developing till they make profit in doing so. I remember, in late eighties, there were three ?revolutionary? softwares ? WordStar (a word processing package), Lotus ? 123 (a spreadsheet) and dBASE (a database package). They were perhaps the most successful softwares of their times and were taught in computer science courses. But where are they now? Where are their developers? Well their developers could not survive due reasons not linked to their wonderful products. Well, CDS/ISIS (Winisis), which also become popular in those days among Library and Information Community, is still available and does its work for which it is meant (i.e. bibliographic databases). It survived, because reasons for its existence were other than profit or business. Perhaps, you can argue that Microsoft will survive for generations. Well, I also do not foreseeing any ?Satyam? with it. But, users of Windows XP (and many users of its previous windows) will soon be forced to migrate to newer versions (the notorious Vista). As after few year s they will officially discontinue their support Windows XP (infact they had given even this extension after lot of hue and cry from user community). Well, it not that Microsoft is making loses with Windows XP; No it is part of their business strategy. So, even from financially sound developers, there is no grantee of continued support. These are some stray examples. Anyway, to cut the story short, let me quickly come to the moral of the story ? You cannot rely upon Vendor or Business backed softwares for long term entities called Libraries. So, what is the alternative available, fortunately ?Community Backed? softwares is the answer for long term continuity and continuous updates. These are nothing else but Open Source Softwares which are developed and maintained by ?community spirit?. Since communities last longer then individuals and businesses, the open source softwares backed by strong communities last much longer. The community spirit does wonders and cannot be explained in simple business models ? but it works! Well who owned Internet anyway? How Wikipedia came to a level that it could be compared with Encyclopedia Britanica. How Linux keeps itself going? And what is this Web 2.0? What the hell makes sites like Facebook / Orkut (and many others) so popular. Well, there is this ?community spirit? in every such wonder. If youngsters are following this email; follow my advice ? go for Open Source Softwares. Learn them and invest your time and efforts in them. Discuss them and help your peers in learning and using them. You may have to work on commercial / closed softwares in your workplace as merit is not the only criteria by which softwares are selected. But still invest in future ? and the future is open. --Sukhdev Singh. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Upadhyay P K wrote: > Dear?professionals, > > My view regarding open source solution vs proprietary are as follows. > > 1. There are ceratin myths about open source softwares. It is a good topic > of discussion and academic study and reserch.??But the moment we try to > implement, problems arise out. Of course in any new implementation/change, > there are problems. People are the most important component in any solution > , open source or closed source. > > 2. Total cost of ownership(TCO) is high in case of open source solution. If > you consider the Software installation, server setup, training, AMC, > hosting, security, follow-up, customization the cost will be high.? In > relation to the total implementation, cost of software?is negligible. We > should not be worry about the open or closed softwares, our motive should be > Proper Information Systems Solution. The management and parent organization > never stop if a good proposal with time bound implementation is put for > financial approval. Government of India has allocated Rs 23000 crore for > eGovernance during 11th Plan . Many of the organizations are not able to > spend their ICT bugdet or sometime spend anyhow. > > 3. In India we are fighting for the softwares and codes developed by Western > Countries- both Open Source tools, OS, Systems Softwares and majority of the > open source softwares( for example Windows, Linux, .NET, JAVA, IIS, Apache, > etc). They are developing and launching these projects, and in developping > countries including India we are not able to decide which software are to be > used. Althogh?we should appreciate the efforts of NEWGENLIB team from India > and many Open Technology Centres have been started. > > 4. Only people are talking in fashion of open source, freedom of owning , > because it seems free but it's not if you talk of total solution.?It has > become a fashion to talk? of RFID, SmartCard, Web 2.0, Social Networking, > MARC, UNICODE, Mobile OPAC, Digital Libraries, etc, even if there is no > basic infrastructure like latest hardware, networking infrastructure, web > hosting , data entry plan, etc. > > 5. Earlier also there were almost free software like CDS/ISIS from UNESCO, > DELPLUS from DELNET(with only Rs 7500 or so), SOUL for college university > from INFLIBNET (with Rs 50000), ?but libraries did not utilize the > opportunity. Majority of libraries does not have capability to understand > simple codes of HTML and changing their logo in the software. Actually LIS > professionals are not supposed to be programmers. They should be?information > systems manager. > > 6. Unless somebody takes responsibility of support or stamps the product, > it? is not advisable to use the open source softwares . It may be security > problem. > > 7. I? have experience of regularly?interacting with many big organizations > and libraries throughout India that are struggling in selecting the LMS > softwares since many years. They have not yet started Data Entry?of books. > ?If they could have used even CDS/ISIS or an MS ACCESS database for data > entry at least 60% work could have been over in terms of automation. > > 8??Some?libraries I have seen, are not able to publish their OPAC?on > Internet and maintaning database on local LAN machine. They have used many > open source softwares of LMS, Digital Library, Repository learnt in > different forums and training programmes. But when question comes of > migration, data conversion?or enterprise integrating those softwares > solutions, they need huge money and running here and there. > > 9. There are around 5 lakh libraries in the country including schools, > hardly?10% of these may be automated ?using Library Management Softwares. We > have to make them automated using open source or closed? at the earliest. > Here?all the stakeholders are required to join and contribute. Only talking > of open or closed will not be sufficient. > > 10. My point in discussing these issues? is not to discard the open source > softwares, but more of providing the right kind Information Systems solution > in totality for Indian libraries. Of course there is open revolution > throghout world . > > with regards > > P K Upadhyay > NIC , Delhi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:18 am > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] OpenSource Debate > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > >> Dear all >> >> A good logical and time befitting debate started at last. I'm >> completely agreed with Mr. Singh and would like to add a few >> point in that .... >> >> 1. Close source commercial LMSs are non-transparent in the use >> and application of standards, whereas FLOSS based LMSs are very >> clear in this direction (take the example of Koha, right from >> the 1999 it is trying to follow and implement all the global >> internationally agreed upon standards e.g. EDIFACT, NCIP, Z39.50 >> etc.); >> 2. Close source commercial LMSs are still not compliant with Web >> 2.0 tools, techniques and philosophy. FLOSS based LMSs are quite >> accommodative in this regard, for example, Koha 3 is RSS >> compliant (it produce RSS feed for every search query issued by >> users), supports Tag submission by users to describe a resource, >> users can post their comments on a particular resource available >> in the library. In short it follows participative architecture >> or user-at-the centre stage model. Unfortunately no other LMSs >> is presently web 2.0-enableb; >> >> 3. Koha (2.x and 3.x) is web-centric in architecture; >> >> 4. Fully compatible with Unicode 5.1 and thereby ensures >> storing, processing and retrieval of Indic script based resource >> (see www.granthalaya.org for a live demo); >> >> 5. Koha 3 supports information mashup - in fact we are noe able >> to snatch cover page images from Amazon without scanning pages >> or writing a single line of code (see the site of Department of >> LIS, University of Burdwan @ >> http://burdwan01.kwc.kohalibrary.com/ - search digital library >> or LIS related terms). >> >> Hope to see a brave open world >> >> Dr. Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay >> Department of Library and Information Science >> University of Burdwan, >> Burdwan, Rajbati - 713104, WB >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Sukhdev Singh" >> > To: "SatishDpnd at Adroit" >> > Cc: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in >> > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-NewGenLib-OpenSource Debate >> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:16:33 +0530 >> > >> > >> > Dear All, >> > >> > I don't think we should shy away from any debate. But unfortunately >> > LIS Community in India seems to be relatively shy of healthy >> debates.> >> > >> > If I am given a chance to implement a Library Automation >> System, I >> > would prefer a model in the following order: >> > >> > 1. Open Source Solution. For the freedom it provides in terms of >> > 'owning' the systems for long term use. I won't mind taking a paid >> > support service. >> > >> > 2. Free Software. For it won't burden my budgets and won't >> trouble me >> > with approvals of higher authorities. >> > >> > 3. Commercial Solution. I would be going for it if none is available >> > in Open Source domain. I will keep myself ready for migration >> to an >> > Open Source Solution. >> > >> > I still feel that efforts required for training and implementation >> > remains the same for all models of softwares. >> > >> > I would still like to hear more on KOHA Vs NewGenLib. I am impressed >> > with the Delhi Public Library's ( http://dpl.gov.in/ ) >> implementation> of KOHA, though I have no idea of inside story >> about it. I would like >> > to see NewGenLib's implementation available for public view. >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > --Sukhdev Singh. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:51 PM, SatishDpnd at Adroit >> > wrote: >> > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message >> 2 and earlier >> > > discussions on the topic >> > > >> > > >> > > Dear LIS professionals >> > > >> > > The debate on NewGenLib v/s SOUL is simply not necessary >> because I feel both >> > > are meant for different segments of LIS market.? SOUL >> was developed by >> > > INFLIBNET years back under the aegis of UGC to support >> academic Library >> > > community which at that time was unable to invest in >> proprietary LMS.? The >> > > initial College edition of SOUL was costing merely >> Rs.15,000/- (until >> > > recently) when proprietary standalone LMS was costing Rs.1 >> lac.? There are >> > > more than 1600 SOUL installations in India.? Just think >> of them !? What >> > > should they do ?? Get free-upgrade of SOUL 2.0 (with >> moderate costs of >> > > installation) or go for NewGenLib/Koha which is free and >> open source.? SOUL >> > > 2.0 has added many more facilities to its previous >> version.? It's web-based, >> > > many International Standards have been adopted and it is SIP2/NCIP >> > > compatible too.? Now think of those smaller libraries >> which have only couple >> > > of staff, what should they do ?? Use readily available >> upgraded LMS or >> > > switch over to free, open source NewGenLib or Koha - for >> which neither they >> > > have expertise nor time to devote. >> > > >> > > All of us those who are adopting Open Source software know >> very well that >> > > it needs substantial staff-time-investment - may it be for >> data migration, >> > > customising each function to suit to one's needs or even >> fixing small >> > > problem of default currency.? Open Source LMS is only a >> powerful engine, but >> > > whether one can make a racing car out of it or not depends >> upon availability >> > > of the workshop facilities, latest tools and machinery, >> research staff to >> > > support and designing team to take care of its >> dynamics.? Therefore I would >> > > not blindly support Open Source just because it is almost >> free compared to >> > > proprietary LMS - but would strongly advocate use of SOUL >> 2.0 by those who >> > > would like to concentrate more on user-services than >> breaking their heads in >> > > customising Open Source LMS. >> > > >> > > SOUL 2.0 is a step towards upgrading efficiency of LIS >> community as a whole >> > > at very negligible input costs.? Those who feel the >> SOUL 2.0 rates are high >> > > should enquire for? rates for proprietary LMS in the >> market, and also how >> > > much would it cost to customise Open Source with facilities >> which are >> > > offered by SOUL 2.0. >> > > >> > > I have yet not come across any fully operational Open Source >> LMS in any of >> > > the large Libraries in India.? Many open source >> agencies claim that each and >> > > every module/facility can be customised, e.g. Template >> designs, RSS Feeds, >> > > Blogs, Federated Search, scheduled auto e-mail generators, >> Customised> > Reports, MIS stats, Online Reservation facility, >> built-in SIP2/NCIP, >> > > Video-streaming facility through web-OPAC, importing records >> from web >> > > catalogues, exporting records in variety of formats, remote >> log-ins, Serials >> > > Management etc., but when it comes to practical >> implementation, it takes >> > > months together to mould them to match needs of the organisation. >> > > >> > > Therefore I will never ever criticise indigenous LMS like >> SOUL.? It is/was >> > > developed for specific cause/purpose and not for competing >> with proprietary >> > > LMS or to discourage use of Open Source LMS.? We all >> should recommend it to >> > > all those who are short of resources and do not have >> time/expertise to >> > > customise freely available open-source. >> > > >> > > Would certainly welcome your views >> > > >> > > Happy LMSing ! >> > > >> > > satish deshpande >> > > formerly Head British Council Library Ahmedabad >> > > >> > > Mentor, Nirma University Libraries; Adviser, KM&IC, National >> Institute of >> > > Design, Ahmedabad >> > > M???? :?? 098250 30460 >> > > email :? satish.dpnd at gmail.com >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message 2 >> > > >> > >> Message: 2 >> > >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) >> > >> From: "I.R.N.Goudar" >> > >> Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB >> > >> To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in >> > >> Message-ID: >> > >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> > >> >> > >> Dear Professionals, >> > >> Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis- >> forum soon after >> > >> the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My >> message answers >> > >> few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin >> in discussing >> > >> the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, >> Suchika, etc. >> > >> At this juncture of avilability of open source software, >> what should be >> > >> our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like >> INFLIBNET,> >> NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc >> should do? Government has >> > >> spent lot of? money various agencies for the >> development of good library >> > >> automation? system. Some of them were cooked half? >> Discontinued further >> > >> developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? >> Some of >> > >> them did not get good support after sale or implementation? >> While I have >> > >> full confidence in the capability and vision of present >> director of >> > >> INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my >> basic question >> > >> is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts and spend >> > >> money on such developments, when so many open source >> softawre are >> > >> available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source >> flatform, uses only >> > >> open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national >> level we >> > >> should have customization, migration and support service >> > >> arrangements on any open system we adopt. 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URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090317/1b3535dd/attachment-0001.html From ns.harinarayana at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 13:21:27 2009 From: ns.harinarayana at gmail.com (N.S. Harinarayana) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:51:27 -0700 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Open Source Software Message-ID: <5d6bc5c70903170051r38d28591r207fbe08f9e760bb@mail.gmail.com> I would like to dive into the discussion with my observations as a teacher and a professional assisting, in a small way, the librarians in my city in their automation projects: * For a teacher like me, open source software is a boon. It is difficult for library schools to purchase commercial software. Even if they are purchased, their maintenance and updation would be difficult as they involve financial commitment from the schools. For this reason some library schools delayed the introduction of practical sessions on library automation systems in their syllabus. Experience show that commercial vendors were not very supportive for library schools in offering their software at nominal cost/free of cost. Though some software were available on demo version for library schools, their installation required some other supportive software (RDBMS) which were expensive. As a result library schools were not in favourable position to use those software too. With the emergence of open source software, library schools now have options to include the software training in their curriculum. They can also now stay updated by using the latest version of the integrated library system. * As rightly pointed out by many, Indian libraries have the options for free software (software for a very nominal cost) since late eighties. For instance, CDS/ISIS has become quite popular among Indian libraries. CDS/ISIS has a success story among many Indian libraries. Its success is not just because it is freely available. There are many other factors for its success. The most important reason that I believe for its success is that as CDS/ISIS is developed by a reputed international organization and promoted by a well-known national organization, it has been accepted by professional fraternity with much confidence. I feel that any open software to succeed, there should be a strong and reliable support from a well-known institution. It is not a bad idea to come out with a model where an institution of high stature in India officially adopts/promotes one or more open source software depending upon their merit. * As days go by, I am sure there will be a number of options open for librarians even for choosing of open source software is concerned. Forums like this should be used to exchange not only the success stories but more importantly the failure stories as well. A more articulate professional may come out their results in the form of article(s) in professional journals/conferences. This helps the profession in general. -- N.S. Harinarayana Department of Library and Information Science University of Mysore, Manasagangotri Mysore 570 006 Off. Ph: (0821) 2419393 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From jinu_sudhakaran at yahoo.com Tue Mar 17 14:36:44 2009 From: jinu_sudhakaran at yahoo.com (Jinu Sudhakaran) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:36:44 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Five Day National Workshop on DSpace Message-ID: <998293.15253.qm@web94501.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Dear Professionals, Cochin University of Science & Technology is going to conduct a 5 day National workshop on DSpace in Collaboration with UGC INFLIBNET and HP India on 20th to 24th April 2009. For further details please visit http://www.dspaceworkshop.com With regards Dr.C.Beena Assistant Librarian Cochin University of Science & Technology Cochin 22 Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From pku at nic.in Tue Mar 17 14:57:39 2009 From: pku at nic.in (Upadhyay P K) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:27:39 +0500 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Myths of Open Source Software In-Reply-To: References: <20090313114351.98BD87BD58@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> <1587da30462ee398.49be4583@nic.in> Message-ID: <230a236c58449621.49bfb35b@nic.in> Dear friends, To continue my view points on the use of open source software in India, I would like to clarify certain points again in response to some of you: 1. I am not against using Open Source Software. But who should, what way, in what situation is the question. It is not always better option. We should not use technology for the sake of technology, it should be justifiable according to your requirement. We should have a policy to review/upgrade the technology, softwares and infrastrure every 3-5 years. 2. But through this forum, sometimes message is broadcasted that only Open source softwares are having the best features, web based architecture, web 2.0, multilingual, etc and other commercial and free are not having. It is not like this . It is the technology available today that has made the softwares better and service oriented. Almost all the softwares avalable in India are good including commercial with all these features. You can decide based on your business objectives. Technolgy is driving the future , community has to use. 3. In case of Indian scenario, there are four types of softwares being used: Commercial(doing well), In-house developed(not advisable), open source/free(yet to pick up), Long Project based(doing well). For new initiatives I would not suggest to go for in-house development. 4. Let's see where are we placed in library automation readiness today. The way we used the software ten years ago is different today. Because some of the most relevant requirement is : Your library database should be published on Internet i.e all modules should be web based and network centric. Members can see the the things from home or remote location. Library staff can make data entry from remote and diffrent locations in India. If you are maintaining your database and dynamic website on LAN or single machine (unless mandatory), you are lagging behind others. In case of Open source you will have to work hard to get it published through your ISP. Simply publishing static web site and hosting is diffrent from hosting a dynamic website on some ISP. Reason is undestanding others code is not so easy. Once you publish your data on Internet , authentication and authorization should be security audited. In case of open source softwares you should take extra precautions. Majority of the libraries in India is maintaning their database on LAN or local single PC. It is not the proper automated system, you should switch over to latest technology. Here also let me clarify, all the popular softwares in India are having web base architecture, and not only Open Source. 5. Also society runs not only on community based services. We should also trust vendors and commercial establishments. Economy and country prospers mostly on PPP model. Always thinking that they are making money will spoil the trust. They are part of the familly. 6. First of all going for any software, you should first we should see your organization's computing infrastructure alongwith our ISP for publishing on Internet, accordingly we should select the software either Open source or commercial. Platform may be Linux or Windows. LMS may anything open source or proprietary. But ceratinly I will not suggest to use the OSS or any software in isolation like LAN or within four walls of library . 7. Ministry of External Affairs has stoped the use of Social Networking tools among their mission. Ministry of Home Affairs has made it mandatory to publish their database on secure ISP. No Governement web sites will be hosted on private ISPs. It is also sometimes creating problems to use private email providers like yahoo, gmail, rediffmail in Official communications. They must be used privately. Hope, I have tried to highlight the issues. with regards P K Upadhyay NIC, Delhi ----- Original Message ----- From: Sukhdev Singh Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:58 am Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Cc: Upadhyay P K > Thanks Friends for carrying out the debate further. > > Regarding Total cost of ownership(TCO), on the very outset let me > quote "there is still debate over how to measure the total cost of > ownership of open source versus proprietary systems". > (http://sn.im/dx10z) . > > I maintain my argument that any solution (Open, Free or Closed) will > require Servers, Network Infrastructure, Manpower to handle > installation, alternation and alignment of System Processes (Library > Process here) and training of the Staff and Users of the system. > > It is obvious that different libraries would be have different > constraints. Some may be flushed with funds while others may be facing > cuts in their budgets specially in corporate sector (They anyway might > be having tough time in current difficult economic situation). Some > may be > having highly trained manpower while others might be having computer > departments at their disposal. For some the library operations > may be > critical and time dependent (Large Universities Libraries ) for others > even manual system will still work (Small Departmental or School > Libraries). And some Libraries and Librarians may still survive and > flourish without even thinking of automation. Let us not loose our > focus just because there is such an heterogeneous environment in > India. But then, this is true for all spheres in India. > Marutis and > bullock carts run on the same road here. > > We must try to understand one thing, Libraries have very long life > cycle. Libraries survive through generations. Atleast they > survive for > the life of their parent organizations. However Software Life > Cycle is > extremely short. A software version may hardly survive three years. > Version updates is a matter of norm. So, continued updates from the > software developer are a must. So, while selecting > software, this > issue has to be kept in mind. Now since, Libraries are meant to > survive over generations; the ideal software for libraries would be > that whose developer survives over generations. Not just survive but > keep on developing the software with new requirements and in > accordance to best technologies available in time. > > Now let us apply this test on commercial developers. Commercial > developers work for business profitability. They will survive > and keep > developing till they make profit in doing so. I remember, in late > eighties, there were three ?revolutionary? softwares ? WordStar (a > word processing package), Lotus ? 123 (a spreadsheet) and dBASE (a > database package). They were perhaps the most successful > softwares of > their times and were taught in computer science courses. But > where are > they now? Where are their developers? Well > their developers could > not survive due reasons not linked to their wonderful products. Well, > CDS/ISIS (Winisis), which also become popular in those days among > Library and Information Community, is still available and does its > work for which it is meant (i.e. bibliographic databases). It > survived, because reasons for its existence were other than > profit or > business. > > Perhaps, you can argue that Microsoft will survive for generations. > Well, I also do not foreseeing any ?Satyam? with it. But, users of > Windows XP (and many users of its previous windows) will soon be > forced to migrate to newer versions (the notorious Vista). As after > few year s they will officially discontinue their support > Windows XP > (infact they had given even this extension after lot of hue and cry > from user community). Well, it not that Microsoft is making > loses with > Windows XP; No it is part of their business strategy. So, even from > financially sound developers, there is no grantee of continued > support. > > These are some stray examples. Anyway, to cut the story short, > let me > quickly come to the moral of the story ? You cannot rely upon Vendor > or Business backed softwares for long term entities called Libraries. > So, what is the alternative available, fortunately ?Community Backed? > softwares is the answer for long term continuity and continuous > updates. These are nothing else but Open Source Softwares which are > developed and maintained by ?community spirit?. Since > communities last > longer then individuals and businesses, the open source softwares > backed by strong communities last much longer. The community spirit > does wonders and cannot be explained in simple business models ? but > it works! Well who owned Internet anyway? How Wikipedia came to a > level that it could be compared with Encyclopedia Britanica. How Linux > keeps itself going? And what is this Web 2.0? What the hell makes > sites like Facebook / Orkut (and many others) so popular. Well, there > is this ?community spirit? in every such wonder. > > If youngsters are following this email; follow my advice ? go > for Open > Source Softwares. Learn them and invest your time and efforts in them. > Discuss them and help your peers in learning and using them. You may > have to work on commercial / closed softwares in your workplace as > merit is not the only criteria by which softwares are selected. > > But still invest in future ? and the future is open. > > --Sukhdev Singh. > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Upadhyay P K wrote: > > Dear professionals, > > > > My view regarding open source solution vs proprietary are as > follows.> > > 1. There are ceratin myths about open source softwares. It is > a good topic > > of discussion and academic study and reserch. But the moment > we try to > > implement, problems arise out. Of course in any new > implementation/change,> there are problems. People are the most > important component in any solution > > , open source or closed source. > > > > 2. Total cost of ownership(TCO) is high in case of open source > solution. If > > you consider the Software installation, server setup, > training, AMC, > > hosting, security, follow-up, customization the cost will be > high. In > > relation to the total implementation, cost of software is > negligible. We > > should not be worry about the open or closed softwares, our > motive should be > > Proper Information Systems Solution. The management and parent > organization> never stop if a good proposal with time bound > implementation is put for > > financial approval. Government of India has allocated Rs 23000 > crore for > > eGovernance during 11th Plan . Many of the organizations are > not able to > > spend their ICT bugdet or sometime spend anyhow. > > > > 3. In India we are fighting for the softwares and codes > developed by Western > > Countries- both Open Source tools, OS, Systems Softwares and > majority of the > > open source softwares( for example Windows, Linux, .NET, JAVA, > IIS, Apache, > > etc). They are developing and launching these projects, and in > developping> countries including India we are not able to decide > which software are to be > > used. Althogh we should appreciate the efforts of NEWGENLIB > team from India > > and many Open Technology Centres have been started. > > > > 4. Only people are talking in fashion of open source, freedom > of owning , > > because it seems free but it's not if you talk of total > solution. It has > > become a fashion to talk of RFID, SmartCard, Web 2.0, Social > Networking,> MARC, UNICODE, Mobile OPAC, Digital Libraries, etc, > even if there is no > > basic infrastructure like latest hardware, networking > infrastructure, web > > hosting , data entry plan, etc. > > > > 5. Earlier also there were almost free software like CDS/ISIS > from UNESCO, > > DELPLUS from DELNET(with only Rs 7500 or so), SOUL for college > university> from INFLIBNET (with Rs 50000), but libraries did > not utilize the > > opportunity. Majority of libraries does not have capability to > understand> simple codes of HTML and changing their logo in the > software. Actually LIS > > professionals are not supposed to be programmers. They should > be information> systems manager. > > > > 6. Unless somebody takes responsibility of support or stamps > the product, > > it is not advisable to use the open source softwares . It may > be security > > problem. > > > > 7. I have experience of regularly interacting with many big > organizations> and libraries throughout India that are > struggling in selecting the LMS > > softwares since many years. They have not yet started Data > Entry of books. > > If they could have used even CDS/ISIS or an MS ACCESS > database for data > > entry at least 60% work could have been over in terms of automation. > > > > 8 Some libraries I have seen, are not able to publish their OPAC on > > Internet and maintaning database on local LAN machine. They > have used many > > open source softwares of LMS, Digital Library, Repository > learnt in > > different forums and training programmes. But when question > comes of > > migration, data conversion or enterprise integrating those softwares > > solutions, they need huge money and running here and there. > > > > 9. There are around 5 lakh libraries in the country including > schools,> hardly 10% of these may be automated using Library > Management Softwares. We > > have to make them automated using open source or closed at > the earliest. > > Here all the stakeholders are required to join and contribute. > Only talking > > of open or closed will not be sufficient. > > > > 10. My point in discussing these issues is not to discard the > open source > > softwares, but more of providing the right kind Information > Systems solution > > in totality for Indian libraries. Of course there is open revolution > > throghout world . > > > > with regards > > > > P K Upadhyay > > NIC , Delhi > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:18 am > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] OpenSource Debate > > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > >> Dear all > >> > >> A good logical and time befitting debate started at last. I'm > >> completely agreed with Mr. Singh and would like to add a few > >> point in that .... > >> > >> 1. Close source commercial LMSs are non-transparent in the use > >> and application of standards, whereas FLOSS based LMSs are very > >> clear in this direction (take the example of Koha, right from > >> the 1999 it is trying to follow and implement all the global > >> internationally agreed upon standards e.g. EDIFACT, NCIP, Z39.50 > >> etc.); > >> 2. Close source commercial LMSs are still not compliant with Web > >> 2.0 tools, techniques and philosophy. FLOSS based LMSs are quite > >> accommodative in this regard, for example, Koha 3 is RSS > >> compliant (it produce RSS feed for every search query issued by > >> users), supports Tag submission by users to describe a resource, > >> users can post their comments on a particular resource available > >> in the library. In short it follows participative architecture > >> or user-at-the centre stage model. Unfortunately no other LMSs > >> is presently web 2.0-enableb; > >> > >> 3. Koha (2.x and 3.x) is web-centric in architecture; > >> > >> 4. Fully compatible with Unicode 5.1 and thereby ensures > >> storing, processing and retrieval of Indic script based resource > >> (see www.granthalaya.org for a live demo); > >> > >> 5. Koha 3 supports information mashup - in fact we are noe able > >> to snatch cover page images from Amazon without scanning pages > >> or writing a single line of code (see the site of Department of > >> LIS, University of Burdwan @ > >> http://burdwan01.kwc.kohalibrary.com/ - search digital library > >> or LIS related terms). > >> > >> Hope to see a brave open world > >> > >> Dr. Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > >> Department of Library and Information Science > >> University of Burdwan, > >> Burdwan, Rajbati - 713104, WB > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Sukhdev Singh" > >> > To: "SatishDpnd at Adroit" > >> > Cc: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > >> > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-NewGenLib-OpenSource Debate > >> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:16:33 +0530 > >> > > >> > > >> > Dear All, > >> > > >> > I don't think we should shy away from any debate. But > unfortunately>> > LIS Community in India seems to be relatively > shy of healthy > >> debates.> > >> > > >> > If I am given a chance to implement a Library Automation > >> System, I > >> > would prefer a model in the following order: > >> > > >> > 1. Open Source Solution. For the freedom it provides in > terms of > >> > 'owning' the systems for long term use. I won't mind taking > a paid > >> > support service. > >> > > >> > 2. Free Software. For it won't burden my budgets and won't > >> trouble me > >> > with approvals of higher authorities. > >> > > >> > 3. Commercial Solution. I would be going for it if none is > available>> > in Open Source domain. I will keep myself ready > for migration > >> to an > >> > Open Source Solution. > >> > > >> > I still feel that efforts required for training and > implementation>> > remains the same for all models of softwares. > >> > > >> > I would still like to hear more on KOHA Vs NewGenLib. I am > impressed>> > with the Delhi Public Library's ( > http://dpl.gov.in/ ) > >> implementation> of KOHA, though I have no idea of inside story > >> about it. I would like > >> > to see NewGenLib's implementation available for public view. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > --Sukhdev Singh. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:51 PM, SatishDpnd at Adroit > >> > wrote: > >> > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message > >> 2 and earlier > >> > > discussions on the topic > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Dear LIS professionals > >> > > > >> > > The debate on NewGenLib v/s SOUL is simply not necessary > >> because I feel both > >> > > are meant for different segments of LIS market. SOUL > >> was developed by > >> > > INFLIBNET years back under the aegis of UGC to support > >> academic Library > >> > > community which at that time was unable to invest in > >> proprietary LMS. The > >> > > initial College edition of SOUL was costing merely > >> Rs.15,000/- (until > >> > > recently) when proprietary standalone LMS was costing Rs.1 > >> lac. There are > >> > > more than 1600 SOUL installations in India. Just think > >> of them ! What > >> > > should they do ? Get free-upgrade of SOUL 2.0 (with > >> moderate costs of > >> > > installation) or go for NewGenLib/Koha which is free and > >> open source. SOUL > >> > > 2.0 has added many more facilities to its previous > >> version. It's web-based, > >> > > many International Standards have been adopted and it is > SIP2/NCIP>> > > compatible too. Now think of those smaller libraries > >> which have only couple > >> > > of staff, what should they do ? Use readily available > >> upgraded LMS or > >> > > switch over to free, open source NewGenLib or Koha - for > >> which neither they > >> > > have expertise nor time to devote. > >> > > > >> > > All of us those who are adopting Open Source software know > >> very well that > >> > > it needs substantial staff-time-investment - may it be for > >> data migration, > >> > > customising each function to suit to one's needs or even > >> fixing small > >> > > problem of default currency. Open Source LMS is only a > >> powerful engine, but > >> > > whether one can make a racing car out of it or not depends > >> upon availability > >> > > of the workshop facilities, latest tools and machinery, > >> research staff to > >> > > support and designing team to take care of its > >> dynamics. Therefore I would > >> > > not blindly support Open Source just because it is almost > >> free compared to > >> > > proprietary LMS - but would strongly advocate use of SOUL > >> 2.0 by those who > >> > > would like to concentrate more on user-services than > >> breaking their heads in > >> > > customising Open Source LMS. > >> > > > >> > > SOUL 2.0 is a step towards upgrading efficiency of LIS > >> community as a whole > >> > > at very negligible input costs. Those who feel the > >> SOUL 2.0 rates are high > >> > > should enquire for rates for proprietary LMS in the > >> market, and also how > >> > > much would it cost to customise Open Source with facilities > >> which are > >> > > offered by SOUL 2.0. > >> > > > >> > > I have yet not come across any fully operational Open Source > >> LMS in any of > >> > > the large Libraries in India. Many open source > >> agencies claim that each and > >> > > every module/facility can be customised, e.g. Template > >> designs, RSS Feeds, > >> > > Blogs, Federated Search, scheduled auto e-mail generators, > >> Customised> > Reports, MIS stats, Online Reservation facility, > >> built-in SIP2/NCIP, > >> > > Video-streaming facility through web-OPAC, importing records > >> from web > >> > > catalogues, exporting records in variety of formats, remote > >> log-ins, Serials > >> > > Management etc., but when it comes to practical > >> implementation, it takes > >> > > months together to mould them to match needs of the > organisation.>> > > > >> > > Therefore I will never ever criticise indigenous LMS like > >> SOUL. It is/was > >> > > developed for specific cause/purpose and not for competing > >> with proprietary > >> > > LMS or to discourage use of Open Source LMS. We all > >> should recommend it to > >> > > all those who are short of resources and do not have > >> time/expertise to > >> > > customise freely available open-source. > >> > > > >> > > Would certainly welcome your views > >> > > > >> > > Happy LMSing ! > >> > > > >> > > satish deshpande > >> > > formerly Head British Council Library Ahmedabad > >> > > > >> > > Mentor, Nirma University Libraries; Adviser, KM&IC, National > >> Institute of > >> > > Design, Ahmedabad > >> > > M : 098250 30460 > >> > > email : satish.dpnd at gmail.com > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : > Message 2 > >> > > > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> > >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) > >> > >> From: "I.R.N.Goudar" > >> > >> Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB > >> > >> To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > >> > >> Message-ID: > >> > >> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear Professionals, > >> > >> Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis- > >> forum soon after > >> > >> the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My > >> message answers > >> > >> few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin > >> in discussing > >> > >> the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, > >> Suchika, etc. > >> > >> At this juncture of avilability of open source software, > >> what should be > >> > >> our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like > >> INFLIBNET,> >> NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc > >> should do? Government has > >> > >> spent lot of money various agencies for the > >> development of good library > >> > >> automation system. Some of them were cooked half? > >> Discontinued further > >> > >> developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? > >> Some of > >> > >> them did not get good support after sale or implementation? > >> While I have > >> > >> full confidence in the capability and vision of present > >> director of > >> > >> INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my > >> basic question > >> > >> is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts > and spend > >> > >> money on such developments, when so many open source > >> softawre are > >> > >> available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source > >> flatform, uses only > >> > >> open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national > >> level we > >> > >> should have customization, migration and support service > >> > >> arrangements on any open system we adopt. 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URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090317/5d05ec57/attachment.html From rajankila at hotmail.com Wed Mar 18 10:08:01 2009 From: rajankila at hotmail.com (Rajan) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:08:01 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Myths of Open Source Software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear All, Many Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) tools available for library use are very user friendly, stable and extremely good. Almost all of them carry self-learning manuals too along with them so that you can learn everything independently. Koha is a good example of a library management software. ABCD Demo generates a lot of expectations among the Winisis users. Winisis is a small wonder for database users even in Windows Vista. It can be used to create even digital document archives which can be uploaded in Internet by using some simple additional software patches. Greenstone, DSpace, Eprints etc are other useful free tools which any sensible librarian can learn easily for effective use. Wiki software, CMS, E Learning etc will enter the library domain as useful tools without much delay. Photo editing can be done easily with GIMP. Html pages can be created by using NVU software. FOSS tools are not not devoid of infirmities. But many of them are more user friendly, stable and productive than their counter parts. On the other hand, one can find very useful proprietary tools also. For eg Fine Reader is a very good OCR for which you may not find a good equivalent on Windows. If library professionals keep away from FOSS, guided by the advice of those who speak prominently about the weaknesses rather than the strengths of FOSS tools, they will be at a very great loss. Focusing on the strengths of FOSS is more rewarding than thinking about their weaknesses. So kindly experience the beauty of some of those FOSS tools and you cannot ignore them. Regards, K Rajasekharan Kerala Institute of Local Administration ------------------------------ Original Message: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:27:39 +0500 From: Upadhyay P K Dear friends, To continue my view points on the use of open source software in India, I would like to clarify certain points again in response to some of you: 1. I am not against using Open Source Software. But who should, what way, in what situation is the question. It is not always better option. We should not use technology for the sake of technology, it should be justifiable according to your requirement. We should have a policy to review/upgrade the technology, softwares and infrastrure every 3-5 years. 2. But through this forum, sometimes message is broadcasted that only Open source softwares are having the best features, web based architecture, web 2.0, multilingual, etc and other commercial and free are not having. It is not like this . It is the technology available today that has made the softwares better and service oriented. Almost all the softwares avalable in India are good including commercial with all these features. You can decide based on your business objectives. Technolgy is driving the future , community has to use. 3. In case of Indian scenario, there are four types of softwares being used: Commercial(doing well), In-house developed(not advisable), open source/free(yet to pick up), Long Project based(doing well). For new initiatives I would not suggest to go for in-house development. 4. Let's see where are we placed in library automation readiness today. The way we used the software ten years ago is different today. Because some of the most relevant requirement is : Your library database should be published on Internet i.e all modules should be web based and network centric. Members can see the the things from home or remote location. Library staff can make data entry from remote and diffrent locations in India. If you are maintaining your database and dynamic website on LAN or single machine (unless mandatory), you are lagging behind others. In case of Open source you will have to work hard to get it published through your ISP. Simply publishing static web site and hosting is diffrent from hosting a dynamic website on some ISP. Reason is undestanding others code is not so easy. Once you publish your data on Internet , authentication and authorization should be security audited. In case of open source softwares you should take extra precautions. Majority of the libraries in India is maintaning their database on LAN or local single PC. It is not the proper automated system, you should switch over to latest technology. Here also let me clarify, all the popular softwares in India are having web base architecture, and not only Open Source. 5. Also society runs not only on community based services. We should also trust vendors and commercial establishments. Economy and country prospers mostly on PPP model. Always thinking that they are making money will spoil the trust. They are part of the familly. 6. First of all going for any software, you should first we should see your organization's computing infrastructure alongwith our ISP for publishing on Internet, accordingly we should select the software either Open source or commercial. Platform may be Linux or Windows. LMS may anything open source or proprietary. But ceratinly I will not suggest to use the OSS or any software in isolation like LAN or within four walls of library . 7. Ministry of External Affairs has stoped the use of Social Networking tools among their mission. Ministry of Home Affairs has made it mandatory to publish their database on secure ISP. No Governement web sites will be hosted on private ISPs. It is also sometimes creating problems to use private email providers like yahoo, gmail, rediffmail in Official communications. They must be used privately. Hope, I have tried to highlight the issues. P K Upadhyay -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From tariq22 at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 10:50:11 2009 From: tariq22 at gmail.com (Dr.Tariq Ashraf) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:50:11 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Myths of Open Source Software In-Reply-To: <230a236c58449621.49bfb35b@nic.in> References: <20090313114351.98BD87BD58@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> <1587da30462ee398.49be4583@nic.in> <230a236c58449621.49bfb35b@nic.in> Message-ID: <4354703e0903172220l547e631ds9462ded27744f11a@mail.gmail.com> My friend Mr.P.K.Upadhyay has touched the raw nerve.Leave apart the technological issues ,most of the proponents of Open Source Softwares/ Institutional repositories deride the commercial interests of vendors/publishers howsoever genuine they may be.They are so passionate about their being against vendors as if it is a crime to be honest about business and profiteering motives. Whereas the truth is that no library or social instituion wil survive without the support of such commercial ventures for very long.Despite the mushrooming growth of IRs both public and private, no library has been able to drop the subscription of journals substantially or reduce the budget of books.In fact most of us are always asking for more grants. I feel it is important to have a balanced and realistic approach and not to get possessed-some would say get bugged , by cetain transient and temporary develpment/occurances which are no more than high sounding jargons and romantic view points if examined honestly and without any vested/personal interest in perpetuating such "myths" . Sincerely Tariq On 3/17/09, Upadhyay P K wrote: > > Dear friends, > > To continue my view points on the use of open source software in India, I > would like to clarify certain points again in response to some of you: > > 1. I am not against using Open Source Software. But who should, what way, > in what situation is the question. It is not always better option. We should > not use technology for the sake of technology, it should be justifiable > according to your requirement. We should have a policy to review/upgrade the > technology, softwares and infrastrure every 3-5 years. > > 2. But through this forum, sometimes message is broadcasted that only Open > source softwares are having the best features, web based architecture, web > 2.0, multilingual, etc and other commercial and free are not having. It is > not like this . It is the technology available today that has made the > softwares better and service oriented. Almost all the softwares avalable in > India are good including commercial with all these features. You can decide > based on your business objectives. Technolgy is driving the future , > community has to use. > > 3. In case of Indian scenario, there are four types of softwares being > used: Commercial(doing well), In-house developed(not advisable), open > source/free(yet to pick up), Long Project based(doing well). For new > initiatives I would not suggest to go for in-house development. > > 4. Let's see where are we placed in library automation readiness today. The > way we used the software ten years ago is different today. Because some of > the most relevant requirement is : > > - Your library database should be published on Internet i.e all > modules should be web based and network centric. Members can see the the > things from home or remote location. Library staff can make data entry from > remote and diffrent locations in India. If you are maintaining your > database and dynamic website on LAN or single machine (unless mandatory), > you are lagging behind others. In case of Open source you will have to work > hard to get it published through your ISP. Simply publishing static web site > and hosting is diffrent from hosting a dynamic website on some ISP. Reason > is undestanding others code is not so easy. > - Once you publish your data on Internet , authentication and > authorization should be security audited. In case of open source softwares > you should take extra precautions. > - Majority of the libraries in India is maintaning their database on > LAN or local single PC. It is not the proper automated system, you should > switch over to latest technology. Here also let me clarify, all the popular > softwares in India are having web base architecture, and not only Open > Source. > > 5. Also society runs not only on community based services. We should also > trust vendors and commercial establishments. Economy and country prospers > mostly on PPP model. Always thinking that they are making money will spoil > the trust. They are part of the familly. > > 6. First of all going for any software, you should first we should see your > organization's computing infrastructure alongwith our ISP for publishing on > Internet, accordingly we should select the software either Open source or > commercial. Platform may be Linux or Windows. LMS may anything open source > or proprietary. But ceratinly I will not suggest to use the OSS or any > software in isolation like LAN or within four walls of library . > > 7. Ministry of External Affairs has stoped the use of Social Networking > tools among their mission. Ministry of Home Affairs has made it mandatory to > publish their database on secure ISP. No Governement web sites will be > hosted on private ISPs. It is also sometimes creating problems to use > private email providers like yahoo, gmail, rediffmail in Official > communications. They must be used privately. > > Hope, I have tried to highlight the issues. > > with regards > > P K Upadhyay > > NIC, Delhi > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sukhdev Singh > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:58 am > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Cc: Upadhyay P K > > > Thanks Friends for carrying out the debate further. > > > > Regarding Total cost of ownership(TCO), on the very outset let me > > quote "there is still debate over how to measure the total cost of > > ownership of open source versus proprietary systems". > > (http://sn.im/dx10z) . > > > > I maintain my argument that any solution (Open, Free or Closed) will > > require Servers, Network Infrastructure, Manpower to handle > > installation, alternation and alignment of System Processes (Library > > Process here) and training of the Staff and Users of the system. > > > > It is obvious that different libraries would be have different > > constraints. Some may be flushed with funds while others may be facing > > cuts in their budgets specially in corporate sector (They anyway might > > be having tough time in current difficult economic situation). Some > > may be > > having highly trained manpower while others might be having computer > > departments at their disposal. For some the library operations > > may be > > critical and time dependent (Large Universities Libraries ) for others > > even manual system will still work (Small Departmental or School > > Libraries). And some Libraries and Librarians may still survive and > > flourish without even thinking of automation. Let us not loose our > > focus just because there is such an heterogeneous environment in > > India. But then, this is true for all spheres in India. > > Marutis and > > bullock carts run on the same road here. > > > > We must try to understand one thing, Libraries have very long life > > cycle. Libraries survive through generations. Atleast they > > survive for > > the life of their parent organizations. However Software Life > > Cycle is > > extremely short. A software version may hardly survive three years. > > Version updates is a matter of norm. So, continued updates from the > > software developer are a must. So, while selecting > > software, this > > issue has to be kept in mind. Now since, Libraries are meant to > > survive over generations; the ideal software for libraries would be > > that whose developer survives over generations. Not just survive but > > keep on developing the software with new requirements and in > > accordance to best technologies available in time. > > > > Now let us apply this test on commercial developers. Commercial > > developers work for business profitability. They will survive > > and keep > > developing till they make profit in doing so. I remember, in late > > eighties, there were three ?revolutionary? softwares ? WordStar (a > > word processing package), Lotus ? 123 (a spreadsheet) and dBASE (a > > database package). They were perhaps the most successful > > softwares of > > their times and were taught in computer science courses. But > > where are > > they now? Where are their developers? Well > > their developers could > > not survive due reasons not linked to their wonderful products. Well, > > CDS/ISIS (Winisis), which also become popular in those days among > > Library and Information Community, is still available and does its > > work for which it is meant (i.e. bibliographic databases). It > > survived, because reasons for its existence were other than > > profit or > > business. > > > > Perhaps, you can argue that Microsoft will survive for generations. > > Well, I also do not foreseeing any ?Satyam? with it. But, users of > > Windows XP (and many users of its previous windows) will soon be > > forced to migrate to newer versions (the notorious Vista). As after > > few year s they will officially discontinue their support > > Windows XP > > (infact they had given even this extension after lot of hue and cry > > from user community). Well, it not that Microsoft is making > > loses with > > Windows XP; No it is part of their business strategy. So, even from > > financially sound developers, there is no grantee of continued > > support. > > > > These are some stray examples. Anyway, to cut the story short, > > let me > > quickly come to the moral of the story ? You cannot rely upon Vendor > > or Business backed softwares for long term entities called Libraries. > > So, what is the alternative available, fortunately ?Community Backed? > > softwares is the answer for long term continuity and continuous > > updates. These are nothing else but Open Source Softwares which are > > developed and maintained by ?community spirit?. Since > > communities last > > longer then individuals and businesses, the open source softwares > > backed by strong communities last much longer. The community spirit > > does wonders and cannot be explained in simple business models ? but > > it works! Well who owned Internet anyway? How Wikipedia came to a > > level that it could be compared with Encyclopedia Britanica. How Linux > > keeps itself going? And what is this Web 2.0? What the hell makes > > sites like Facebook / Orkut (and many others) so popular. Well, there > > is this ?community spirit? in every such wonder. > > > > If youngsters are following this email; follow my advice ? go > > for Open > > Source Softwares. Learn them and invest your time and efforts in them. > > Discuss them and help your peers in learning and using them. You may > > have to work on commercial / closed softwares in your workplace as > > merit is not the only criteria by which softwares are selected. > > > > But still invest in future ? and the future is open. > > > > --Sukhdev Singh. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Upadhyay P K wrote: > > > Dear professionals, > > > > > > My view regarding open source solution vs proprietary are as > > follows.> > > > 1. There are ceratin myths about open source softwares. It is > > a good topic > > > of discussion and academic study and reserch. But the moment > > we try to > > > implement, problems arise out. Of course in any new > > implementation/change,> there are problems. People are the most > > important component in any solution > > > , open source or closed source. > > > > > > 2. Total cost of ownership(TCO) is high in case of open source > > solution. If > > > you consider the Software installation, server setup, > > training, AMC, > > > hosting, security, follow-up, customization the cost will be > > high. In > > > relation to the total implementation, cost of software is > > negligible. We > > > should not be worry about the open or closed softwares, our > > motive should be > > > Proper Information Systems Solution. The management and parent > > organization> never stop if a good proposal with time bound > > implementation is put for > > > financial approval. Government of India has allocated Rs 23000 > > crore for > > > eGovernance during 11th Plan . Many of the organizations are > > not able to > > > spend their ICT bugdet or sometime spend anyhow. > > > > > > 3. In India we are fighting for the softwares and codes > > developed by Western > > > Countries- both Open Source tools, OS, Systems Softwares and > > majority of the > > > open source softwares( for example Windows, Linux, .NET, JAVA, > > IIS, Apache, > > > etc). They are developing and launching these projects, and in > > developping> countries including India we are not able to decide > > which software are to be > > > used. Althogh we should appreciate the efforts of NEWGENLIB > > team from India > > > and many Open Technology Centres have been started. > > > > > > 4. Only people are talking in fashion of open source, freedom > > of owning , > > > because it seems free but it's not if you talk of total > > solution. It has > > > become a fashion to talk of RFID, SmartCard, Web 2.0, Social > > Networking,> MARC, UNICODE, Mobile OPAC, Digital Libraries, etc, > > even if there is no > > > basic infrastructure like latest hardware, networking > > infrastructure, web > > > hosting , data entry plan, etc. > > > > > > 5. Earlier also there were almost free software like CDS/ISIS > > from UNESCO, > > > DELPLUS from DELNET(with only Rs 7500 or so), SOUL for college > > university> from INFLIBNET (with Rs 50000), but libraries did > > not utilize the > > > opportunity. Majority of libraries does not have capability to > > understand> simple codes of HTML and changing their logo in the > > software. Actually LIS > > > professionals are not supposed to be programmers. They should > > be information> systems manager. > > > > > > 6. Unless somebody takes responsibility of support or stamps > > the product, > > > it is not advisable to use the open source softwares . It may > > be security > > > problem. > > > > > > 7. I have experience of regularly interacting with many big > > organizations> and libraries throughout India that are > > struggling in selecting the LMS > > > softwares since many years. They have not yet started Data > > Entry of books. > > > If they could have used even CDS/ISIS or an MS ACCESS > > database for data > > > entry at least 60% work could have been over in terms of automation. > > > > > > 8 Some libraries I have seen, are not able to publish their OPAC on > > > Internet and maintaning database on local LAN machine. They > > have used many > > > open source softwares of LMS, Digital Library, Repository > > learnt in > > > different forums and training programmes. But when question > > comes of > > > migration, data conversion or enterprise integrating those softwares > > > solutions, they need huge money and running here and there. > > > > > > 9. There are around 5 lakh libraries in the country including > > schools,> hardly 10% of these may be automated using Library > > Management Softwares. We > > > have to make them automated using open source or closed at > > the earliest. > > > Here all the stakeholders are required to join and contribute. > > Only talking > > > of open or closed will not be sufficient. > > > > > > 10. My point in discussing these issues is not to discard the > > open source > > > softwares, but more of providing the right kind Information > > Systems solution > > > in totality for Indian libraries. Of course there is open revolution > > > throghout world . > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > P K Upadhyay > > > NIC , Delhi > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > > > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:18 am > > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] OpenSource Debate > > > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > > > >> Dear all > > >> > > >> A good logical and time befitting debate started at last. I'm > > >> completely agreed with Mr. Singh and would like to add a few > > >> point in that .... > > >> > > >> 1. Close source commercial LMSs are non-transparent in the use > > >> and application of standards, whereas FLOSS based LMSs are very > > >> clear in this direction (take the example of Koha, right from > > >> the 1999 it is trying to follow and implement all the global > > >> internationally agreed upon standards e.g. EDIFACT, NCIP, Z39.50 > > >> etc.); > > >> 2. Close source commercial LMSs are still not compliant with Web > > >> 2.0 tools, techniques and philosophy. FLOSS based LMSs are quite > > >> accommodative in this regard, for example, Koha 3 is RSS > > >> compliant (it produce RSS feed for every search query issued by > > >> users), supports Tag submission by users to describe a resource, > > >> users can post their comments on a particular resource available > > >> in the library. In short it follows participative architecture > > >> or user-at-the centre stage model. Unfortunately no other LMSs > > >> is presently web 2.0-enableb; > > >> > > >> 3. Koha (2.x and 3.x) is web-centric in architecture; > > >> > > >> 4. Fully compatible with Unicode 5.1 and thereby ensures > > >> storing, processing and retrieval of Indic script based resource > > >> (see www.granthalaya.org for a live demo); > > >> > > >> 5. Koha 3 supports information mashup - in fact we are noe able > > >> to snatch cover page images from Amazon without scanning pages > > >> or writing a single line of code (see the site of Department of > > >> LIS, University of Burdwan @ > > >> http://burdwan01.kwc.kohalibrary.com/ - search digital library > > >> or LIS related terms). > > >> > > >> Hope to see a brave open world > > >> > > >> Dr. Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > > >> Department of Library and Information Science > > >> University of Burdwan, > > >> Burdwan, Rajbati - 713104, WB > > >> --------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > From: "Sukhdev Singh" > > >> > To: "SatishDpnd at Adroit" > > >> > Cc: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > >> > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-NewGenLib-OpenSource Debate > > >> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:16:33 +0530 > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Dear All, > > >> > > > >> > I don't think we should shy away from any debate. But > > unfortunately>> > LIS Community in India seems to be relatively > > shy of healthy > > >> debates.> > > >> > > > >> > If I am given a chance to implement a Library Automation > > >> System, I > > >> > would prefer a model in the following order: > > >> > > > >> > 1. Open Source Solution. For the freedom it provides in > > terms of > > >> > 'owning' the systems for long term use. I won't mind taking > > a paid > > >> > support service. > > >> > > > >> > 2. Free Software. For it won't burden my budgets and won't > > >> trouble me > > >> > with approvals of higher authorities. > > >> > > > >> > 3. Commercial Solution. I would be going for it if none is > > available>> > in Open Source domain. I will keep myself ready > > for migration > > >> to an > > >> > Open Source Solution. > > >> > > > >> > I still feel that efforts required for training and > > implementation>> > remains the same for all models of softwares. > > >> > > > >> > I would still like to hear more on KOHA Vs NewGenLib. I am > > impressed>> > with the Delhi Public Library's ( > > http://dpl.gov.in/ ) > > >> implementation> of KOHA, though I have no idea of inside story > > >> about it. I would like > > >> > to see NewGenLib's implementation available for public view. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks > > >> > > > >> > --Sukhdev Singh. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:51 PM, SatishDpnd at Adroit > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message > > >> 2 and earlier > > >> > > discussions on the topic > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Dear LIS professionals > > >> > > > > >> > > The debate on NewGenLib v/s SOUL is simply not necessary > > >> because I feel both > > >> > > are meant for different segments of LIS market. SOUL > > >> was developed by > > >> > > INFLIBNET years back under the aegis of UGC to support > > >> academic Library > > >> > > community which at that time was unable to invest in > > >> proprietary LMS. The > > >> > > initial College edition of SOUL was costing merely > > >> Rs.15,000/- (until > > >> > > recently) when proprietary standalone LMS was costing Rs.1 > > >> lac. There are > > >> > > more than 1600 SOUL installations in India. Just think > > >> of them ! What > > >> > > should they do ? Get free-upgrade of SOUL 2.0 (with > > >> moderate costs of > > >> > > installation) or go for NewGenLib/Koha which is free and > > >> open source. SOUL > > >> > > 2.0 has added many more facilities to its previous > > >> version. It's web-based, > > >> > > many International Standards have been adopted and it is > > SIP2/NCIP>> > > compatible too. Now think of those smaller libraries > > >> which have only couple > > >> > > of staff, what should they do ? Use readily available > > >> upgraded LMS or > > >> > > switch over to free, open source NewGenLib or Koha - for > > >> which neither they > > >> > > have expertise nor time to devote. > > >> > > > > >> > > All of us those who are adopting Open Source software know > > >> very well that > > >> > > it needs substantial staff-time-investment - may it be for > > >> data migration, > > >> > > customising each function to suit to one's needs or even > > >> fixing small > > >> > > problem of default currency. Open Source LMS is only a > > >> powerful engine, but > > >> > > whether one can make a racing car out of it or not depends > > >> upon availability > > >> > > of the workshop facilities, latest tools and machinery, > > >> research staff to > > >> > > support and designing team to take care of its > > >> dynamics. Therefore I would > > >> > > not blindly support Open Source just because it is almost > > >> free compared to > > >> > > proprietary LMS - but would strongly advocate use of SOUL > > >> 2.0 by those who > > >> > > would like to concentrate more on user-services than > > >> breaking their heads in > > >> > > customising Open Source LMS. > > >> > > > > >> > > SOUL 2.0 is a step towards upgrading efficiency of LIS > > >> community as a whole > > >> > > at very negligible input costs. Those who feel the > > >> SOUL 2.0 rates are high > > >> > > should enquire for rates for proprietary LMS in the > > >> market, and also how > > >> > > much would it cost to customise Open Source with facilities > > >> which are > > >> > > offered by SOUL 2.0. > > >> > > > > >> > > I have yet not come across any fully operational Open Source > > >> LMS in any of > > >> > > the large Libraries in India. Many open source > > >> agencies claim that each and > > >> > > every module/facility can be customised, e.g. Template > > >> designs, RSS Feeds, > > >> > > Blogs, Federated Search, scheduled auto e-mail generators, > > >> Customised> > Reports, MIS stats, Online Reservation facility, > > >> built-in SIP2/NCIP, > > >> > > Video-streaming facility through web-OPAC, importing records > > >> from web > > >> > > catalogues, exporting records in variety of formats, remote > > >> log-ins, Serials > > >> > > Management etc., but when it comes to practical > > >> implementation, it takes > > >> > > months together to mould them to match needs of the > > organisation.>> > > > > >> > > Therefore I will never ever criticise indigenous LMS like > > >> SOUL. It is/was > > >> > > developed for specific cause/purpose and not for competing > > >> with proprietary > > >> > > LMS or to discourage use of Open Source LMS. We all > > >> should recommend it to > > >> > > all those who are short of resources and do not have > > >> time/expertise to > > >> > > customise freely available open-source. > > >> > > > > >> > > Would certainly welcome your views > > >> > > > > >> > > Happy LMSing ! > > >> > > > > >> > > satish deshpande > > >> > > formerly Head British Council Library Ahmedabad > > >> > > > > >> > > Mentor, Nirma University Libraries; Adviser, KM&IC, National > > >> Institute of > > >> > > Design, Ahmedabad > > >> > > M : 098250 30460 > > >> > > email : satish.dpnd at gmail.com > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : > > Message 2 > > >> > > > > >> > >> Message: 2 > > >> > >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) > > >> > >> From: "I.R.N.Goudar" > > >> > >> Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB > > >> > >> To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > >> > >> Message-ID: > > >> > >> > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Dear Professionals, > > >> > >> Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis- > > >> forum soon after > > >> > >> the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My > > >> message answers > > >> > >> few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin > > >> in discussing > > >> > >> the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, > > >> Suchika, etc. > > >> > >> At this juncture of avilability of open source software, > > >> what should be > > >> > >> our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like > > >> INFLIBNET,> >> NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc > > >> should do? Government has > > >> > >> spent lot of money various agencies for the > > >> development of good library > > >> > >> automation system. Some of them were cooked half? > > >> Discontinued further > > >> > >> developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? > > >> Some of > > >> > >> them did not get good support after sale or implementation? > > >> While I have > > >> > >> full confidence in the capability and vision of present > > >> director of > > >> > >> INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my > > >> basic question > > >> > >> is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts > > and spend > > >> > >> money on such developments, when so many open source > > >> softawre are > > >> > >> available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source > > >> flatform, uses only > > >> > >> open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national > > >> level we > > >> > >> should have customization, migration and support service > > >> > >> arrangements on any open system we adopt. 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If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the sender. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090318/0c812d6b/attachment-0001.html From kshemaprakash at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 11:18:12 2009 From: kshemaprakash at gmail.com (Kshema Prakash) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:18:12 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Reg: Commercial vs. Open Source LMS Message-ID: <3a4c03220903172248w15f74fd1g91504e731e74b640@mail.gmail.com> Dear Colleagues, I am in all agreement with Mr. Sukhdev Singh's point of view. The debate on Commercial Vs. Open Source LMS is very much a need of time, now. As a working librarian, I wish to share my experiences with you all, which may perhaps throw some light on the efforts of our Open Source software developers. Like every other university we had tried our hands at a commercial software and as Sukhdev rightly pointed out, our vendors simply fled the scene leaving us in a lurch. Loads of our data which was a result of hardwork and overtime of our staff got locked up and we could never retrieve that. It has been such a pain!! After lot of deliberations and doubtful expressions from our faculty members and authorities, we finally managed to convince them for an open source solution with Koha. A notable point is Koha is no doubt a very stable software with a strong community base. But its implemenattion and maintenance is not an easy job for all librarians, especially in India. It requires a high level understanding of the OS (if you wish to implemet on Linux platform) and several other features. We have to perform several other duties along with computerization, which do not allow us to completely concentrate solely on this job. While we were meddling with Koha's implementation, computer experts were also flown in to help us with installation, customization and for data migration. Still, the desired result could not be produced. At such a time NewGenLib was made open source. Having a tough time with computerization amidst growing annoyance of the users, we experimented with NewGenLib and it worked !! The software is so user friendly for installation, customization as well as maintenance. Contribution of the developer, Dr. Haravu and proactive support of his team, especially Mr. Siddartha is incredible. They are so responsive and are always ready to solve the problems. What do we librarians want? It is in this respect that I strongly support Sukhdev's views that a community based software will go a long way as per the requirements of an organization. But, its a matter of support from the library community. It is for our community to support such endeavours in order to keep ourselves strong and going. We should understand that support in terms of AMC and product promotion will help the software survive. When we are forced to pay whopping amounts of AMC to a commercial vendor, why not a nominal amount of AMC to a good samaritan? Another noteworthy point is - success of the software in a library depends upon the attitude of people on both sides - the developer and the implementor. We have to agree that there are many libraries in India who are still in computerization stage and face typical problems specific to each of their organizational set-up. The reason for opting and supporting NewGenLib when compared to Koha is the simplicity of the software, ease in data migration, support from the developers and above all it suits to the requirements of a typical Indian library system. Mr. Goudar's suggestion is worth considering that Inflibnet can think of collaborating with developers of NewGenLib for all these obvious reasons. It will surely be a win-win situation for both Inflibnet as well as NewGenLib, specially because of strong leaders on both fronts - Dr. Arora and Dr. Haravu. Their experience and expertise will definitely help in the ascent of library community. I am pleased to say that today we are tension-free and satisfied as our efforts in implementing an open source software have not only been appreciated by our authorities and welcomed by our users but are also being supported by every means. >From my limited experience I have tried to humbly put forth some of my view points. Apologies for any unforseen or unintentional remarks. Think open and have a great time! 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No. 01/2009 (E-1) Applications, on the prescribed form, are invited from the Indian Nationals for following posts in Central Library of the institute : *Librarian* : 01 post (Temporary but likely to contine), Pay Scale : Rs.16400-22400/- *Dy. Librarian* : 02 posts (UR-1, OBC-1), Pay Scale : Rs.12000-18300/- *Assistant Librarian* : 02 posts (UR-1, SC-1), Pay : Rs.8000-13500/- pm How to Apply : Last date of submission of application is 21/04/2009. Please write to Asstt. Registrar (E-1), IIT Delhi (Ph.# 011-26591716) for enquiries. Visit http://www.iitd.ac.in to see the details and application form. Mukesh Kumar Jha M.L.I.Sc,(BHU 2008) Library Trainee (BHU Central Library) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Visit http://www.iitd.ac.in to see the details and application form. Regards -- Tapas Kumar Das Technical Assistant Central Library Mangalayatan University Aligarh, U.P. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090318/4bf186ca/attachment-0001.html From suvarsha_w at yahoo.com Wed Mar 18 14:12:47 2009 From: suvarsha_w at yahoo.com (Suvarsha W. Minj) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Myths of Open Source Software Message-ID: <727990.90744.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello all, Couldn't help but comment of this discussion. The meaning of the term "free" in Open Source Software (OSS) is the free as in "freedom" and not free as in "free beer". When you buy a table you are free to break it down use up the wood in ways that you want or even sell it. Similarly when you opt for OSS you can look at the code, modify it and some licenses will also allow you to commercialize it. So you can be as business and profit oriented with OSS as with closed source software vendors. That is not the differentiating point at all. But I am a strong supporter of OSS because they cannot lock in your data, so even when you want to move to another package you can get out the content that you have generated. If the OSS has a strong user community base then the likely hood of development and support is good. An OSS with a strong user base and a good vendor in your area who are able to provide support services would be a good option to go for I think. Thanks and regards, Suvarsha Information Analyst, HP Labs India, Bangalore --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Dr.Tariq Ashraf wrote: > From: Dr.Tariq Ashraf > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Myths of Open Source Software > To: "Upadhyay P K" > Cc: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 12:20 AM > My friend Mr.P.K.Upadhyay has? > touched the raw nerve.Leave apart the technological issues > ,most of the proponents of? Open Source Softwares/ > Institutional repositories ?deride the?commercial > interests of vendors/publishers howsoever genuine they may > be.They are so passionate about their being against?? > vendors as if it is a crime to? be? honest about business > and profiteering motives. Whereas the truth is that no > library or social instituion wil survive without the support > of such commercial ventures for very long.Despite the > mushrooming growth of IRs both public and private, no > library has been able to drop the subscription of journals > substantially or reduce the budget of books.In fact most of > us are always asking for more grants. I feel it is important > to have a balanced and? realistic approach and not to get > possessed-some would say get bugged?, by cetain > transient?and ?temporary develpment/occurances which? are > no more than?? high sounding??jargons and? romantic? > view points if examined? honestly and without??any > vested/personal interest in perpetuating such > "myths"?. > > ? > Sincerely > Tariq > > ? > On 3/17/09, Upadhyay P K > wrote: > > Dear friends, > ? > To continue my view points > on the use of open source software in India, I would like to > clarify certain points again in response to some of you: > > ? > 1. I am not against using > Open Source Software. But who should, what way, in what > situation is the question. It is not always better option. > We should not use technology for the sake of technology, it > should be justifiable according to your requirement. We > should have a policy to review/upgrade the technology, > softwares?and infrastrure every 3-5 years. > > ? > 2. But through this forum, > sometimes?message is broadcasted ?that only Open source > softwares are having the best features,?web > based?architecture, web 2.0, multilingual, etc and other > commercial and free are not having. It is not like this . It > is the technology available today that has made the > softwares better and service oriented. Almost all the > softwares avalable in India are good including commercial > with all these features. You can decide based on your > business objectives. Technolgy is driving the future , > community has to use. > > ? > 3. In case of Indian > scenario, there are?four types of softwares being used: > Commercial(doing well), In-house developed(not advisable), > open source/free(yet to pick up), Long Project based(doing > well).?For new initiatives I would not suggest to go for > in-house development. > > ? > 4. Let's see where are > we placed in library automation readiness today. The way we > used? the software ten years ago is different today. > Because some of the most relevant requirement is : > > > > ?Your library database > should be published on Internet i.e all? modules should be > web based and network centric.?Members can see the the > things from home or remote location. Library staff can make > data entry from remote and diffrent locations in India. ?If > you are maintaining your database and dynamic website on LAN > or single machine (unless mandatory), you are?lagging > behind others.?In case of Open source you will have to work > hard to get it published through your ISP. Simply publishing > static web site and hosting is diffrent from hosting a > dynamic website on some ISP.? Reason is undestanding others > code is not so easy. > Once you publish your data > on Internet ,?authentication and authorization should be > security audited.?In case of open source softwares you > should take extra precautions. ? > Majority of the libraries > in India is maintaning their database on LAN or local single > PC. It is not the proper automated system, you should switch > over to latest technology. Here also let me clarify, all the > popular softwares in India are having web base architecture, > and not only Open Source. > > 5. Also society runs not > only on community based services. We should also trust > vendors and commercial establishments. Economy and country > prospers mostly on PPP model. Always thinking that they are > making money will spoil the trust. They are part of the > familly. > > 6. First of all going for > any software, you should first we should see your > organization's computing infrastructure alongwith our > ISP?for publishing on Internet, accordingly we should > select the software either Open source or commercial. > Platform may be Linux or Windows. LMS may anything open > source or proprietary. But ceratinly I will not suggest to > use the OSS or any software in isolation like LAN or within > four walls of library . > > 7. Ministry of External > Affairs has stoped the use of Social Networking tools among > their mission. Ministry of Home Affairs has made it > mandatory to publish their database on secure ISP. No > Governement web sites will be hosted on private ISPs. It is > also sometimes creating problems to use private email > providers like yahoo, gmail, rediffmail in Official > communications. They must be used privately. > > Hope, I have tried to > highlight the issues. > with regards > P K Upadhyay > NIC, Delhi > ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sukhdev Singh > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:58 am > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source > Software > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > Cc: Upadhyay P K > > > Thanks Friends for carrying out the debate further. > > > > Regarding Total cost of ownership(TCO), on the very > outset let me > > > quote "there is still debate over how to measure > the total cost of > > ownership of open source versus proprietary > systems". > > (http://sn.im/dx10z) . > > > > > I maintain my argument that any solution (Open, Free > or Closed) will > > require Servers, Network Infrastructure, Manpower to > handle > > installation, alternation and alignment of System > Processes (Library > > > Process here) and training of the Staff and Users of > the system. > > > > It is obvious that different libraries would be have > different > > constraints. Some may be flushed with funds while > others may be facing > > > cuts in their budgets specially in corporate sector > (They anyway might > > be having tough time in current difficult economic > situation). Some > > may be > > having highly trained manpower while others might be > having computer > > > departments at their disposal. For some the library > operations > > may be > > critical and time dependent (Large Universities > Libraries ) for others > > even manual system will still work (Small Departmental > or School > > > Libraries). And some Libraries and Librarians may > still survive and > > flourish without even thinking of automation. Let us > not loose our > > focus just because there is such an heterogeneous > environment in > > > India. But then, this is true for all spheres in > India. > > Marutis? and > > bullock carts run on the same road here. > > > > We must try to understand one thing, Libraries have > very long life > > cycle. Libraries survive through generations. Atleast > they > > > survive for > > the life of their parent organizations. However > Software Life > > Cycle is > > extremely short. A software version may hardly survive > three years. > > Version updates is a matter of norm. So, continued > updates from the > > > software developer are a must.? So, while selecting > > software, this > > issue has to be kept in mind. Now since, Libraries are > meant to > > survive over generations; the ideal software for > libraries would be > > > that whose developer survives over generations. Not > just survive but > > keep on developing the software with new requirements > and in > > accordance to best technologies available in time. > > > > Now let us apply this test on commercial developers. > Commercial > > > developers work for business profitability. They will > survive > > and keep > > developing till they make profit in doing so. I > remember, in late > > eighties, there were three ?revolutionary? > softwares ? WordStar (a > > > word processing package), Lotus ? 123 (a > spreadsheet) and dBASE (a > > database package). They were perhaps the most > successful > > softwares of > > their times and were taught in computer science > courses. But > > > where are > > they now?? Where are their developers??? Well > > their developers could > > not survive due reasons not linked to their wonderful > products. Well, > > CDS/ISIS (Winisis), which also become popular in those > days among > > > Library and Information Community, is still available > and does its > > work for which it is meant (i.e. bibliographic > databases). It > > survived, because reasons for its existence were other > than > > profit or > > > business. > > > > Perhaps, you can argue that Microsoft will survive for > generations. > > Well, I also do not foreseeing any ?Satyam? with > it. But, users of > > Windows XP (and many users of its previous windows) > will soon be > > > forced to migrate to newer versions (the notorious > Vista). As after > > few year s they will officially discontinue their > support > > Windows XP > > (infact they had given even this extension after lot > of hue and cry > > > from user community). Well, it not that Microsoft is > making > > loses with > > Windows XP; No it is part of their business strategy. > So, even from > > financially sound developers, there is no grantee of > continued > > > support. > > > > These are some stray examples. Anyway, to cut the > story short, > > let me > > quickly come to the moral of the story ? You cannot > rely upon Vendor > > or Business backed softwares for long term entities > called Libraries. > > > So, what is the alternative available, fortunately > ?Community Backed? > > softwares is the answer for long term continuity and > continuous > > updates. These are nothing else but Open Source > Softwares which are > > > developed and maintained by ?community spirit?. > Since > > communities last > > longer then individuals and businesses, the open > source softwares > > backed by strong communities last much longer. The > community spirit > > > does wonders and cannot be explained in simple > business models ? but > > it works! Well who owned Internet anyway? How > Wikipedia came to a > > level that it could be compared with Encyclopedia > Britanica. How Linux > > > keeps itself going? And what is this Web 2.0? What the > hell makes > > sites like Facebook / Orkut (and many others) so > popular. Well, there > > is this ?community spirit? in every such wonder. > > > > If youngsters are following this email; follow my > advice ? go > > > for Open > > Source Softwares. Learn them and invest your time and > efforts in them. > > Discuss them and help your peers in learning and using > them. You may > > have to work on commercial / closed softwares in your > workplace as > > > merit is not the only criteria by which softwares are > selected. > > > > But still invest in future ? and the future is > open. > > > > --Sukhdev Singh. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Upadhyay P K wrote: > > > > Dear?professionals, > > > > > > My view regarding open source solution vs > proprietary are as > > follows.> > > > 1. There are ceratin myths about open source > softwares. It is > > a good topic > > > > of discussion and academic study and > reserch.??But the moment > > we try to > > > implement, problems arise out. Of course in any > new > > implementation/change,> there are problems. People > are the most > > > important component in any solution > > > , open source or closed source. > > > > > > 2. Total cost of ownership(TCO) is high in case > of open source > > solution. If > > > you consider the Software installation, server > setup, > > > training, AMC, > > > hosting, security, follow-up, customization the > cost will be > > high.? In > > > relation to the total implementation, cost of > software?is > > negligible. We > > > should not be worry about the open or closed > softwares, our > > > motive should be > > > Proper Information Systems Solution. The > management and parent > > organization> never stop if a good proposal with > time bound > > implementation is put for > > > financial approval. Government of India has > allocated Rs 23000 > > > crore for > > > eGovernance during 11th Plan . Many of the > organizations are > > not able to > > > spend their ICT bugdet or sometime spend anyhow. > > > > > > 3. In India we are fighting for the softwares and > codes > > > developed by Western > > > Countries- both Open Source tools, OS, Systems > Softwares and > > majority of the > > > open source softwares( for example Windows, > Linux, .NET, JAVA, > > IIS, Apache, > > > > etc). They are developing and launching these > projects, and in > > developping> countries including India we are not > able to decide > > which software are to be > > > used. Althogh?we should appreciate the efforts > of NEWGENLIB > > > team from India > > > and many Open Technology Centres have been > started. > > > > > > 4. Only people are talking in fashion of open > source, freedom > > of owning , > > > because it seems free but it's not if you > talk of total > > > solution.?It has > > > become a fashion to talk? of RFID, SmartCard, > Web 2.0, Social > > Networking,> MARC, UNICODE, Mobile OPAC, Digital > Libraries, etc, > > even if there is no > > > basic infrastructure like latest hardware, > networking > > > infrastructure, web > > > hosting , data entry plan, etc. > > > > > > 5. Earlier also there were almost free software > like CDS/ISIS > > from UNESCO, > > > DELPLUS from DELNET(with only Rs 7500 or so), > SOUL for college > > > university> from INFLIBNET (with Rs 50000), ?but > libraries did > > not utilize the > > > opportunity. Majority of libraries does not have > capability to > > understand> simple codes of HTML and changing their > logo in the > > > software. Actually LIS > > > professionals are not supposed to be programmers. > They should > > be?information> systems manager. > > > > > > 6. Unless somebody takes responsibility of > support or stamps > > > the product, > > > it? is not advisable to use the open source > softwares . It may > > be security > > > problem. > > > > > > 7. I? have experience of regularly?interacting > with many big > > > organizations> and libraries throughout India that > are > > struggling in selecting the LMS > > > softwares since many years. They have not yet > started Data > > Entry?of books. > > > ?If they could have used even CDS/ISIS or an MS > ACCESS > > > database for data > > > entry at least 60% work could have been over in > terms of automation. > > > > > > 8??Some?libraries I have seen, are not able to > publish their OPAC?on > > > Internet and maintaning database on local LAN > machine. They > > > have used many > > > open source softwares of LMS, Digital Library, > Repository > > learnt in > > > different forums and training programmes. But > when question > > comes of > > > migration, data conversion?or enterprise > integrating those softwares > > > > solutions, they need huge money and running here > and there. > > > > > > 9. There are around 5 lakh libraries in the > country including > > schools,> hardly?10% of these may be automated > ?using Library > > > Management Softwares. We > > > have to make them automated using open source or > closed? at > > the earliest. > > > Here?all the stakeholders are required to join > and contribute. > > Only talking > > > > of open or closed will not be sufficient. > > > > > > 10. My point in discussing these issues? is not > to discard the > > open source > > > softwares, but more of providing the right kind > Information > > > Systems solution > > > in totality for Indian libraries. Of course there > is open revolution > > > throghout world . > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > P K Upadhyay > > > NIC , Delhi > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > > > > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:18 am > > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] OpenSource Debate > > > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > > > > >> Dear all > > >> > > >> A good logical and time befitting debate > started at last. I'm > > >> completely agreed with Mr. Singh and would > like to add a few > > >> point in that .... > > > >> > > >> 1. Close source commercial LMSs are > non-transparent in the use > > >> and application of standards, whereas FLOSS > based LMSs are very > > >> clear in this direction (take the example of > Koha, right from > > > >> the 1999 it is trying to follow and implement > all the global > > >> internationally agreed upon standards e.g. > EDIFACT, NCIP, Z39.50 > > >> etc.); > > >> 2. Close source commercial LMSs are still not > compliant with Web > > > >> 2.0 tools, techniques and philosophy. FLOSS > based LMSs are quite > > >> accommodative in this regard, for example, > Koha 3 is RSS > > >> compliant (it produce RSS feed for every > search query issued by > > > >> users), supports Tag submission by users to > describe a resource, > > >> users can post their comments on a particular > resource available > > >> in the library. In short it follows > participative architecture > > > >> or user-at-the centre stage model. > Unfortunately no other LMSs > > >> is presently web 2.0-enableb; > > >> > > >> 3. Koha (2.x and 3.x) is web-centric in > architecture; > > >> > > > >> 4. Fully compatible with Unicode 5.1 and > thereby ensures > > >> storing, processing and retrieval of Indic > script based resource > > >> (see www.granthalaya.org > for a live demo); > > > >> > > >> 5. Koha 3 supports information mashup - in > fact we are noe able > > >> to snatch cover page images from Amazon > without scanning pages > > >> or writing a single line of code (see the > site of Department of > > > >> LIS, University of Burdwan @ > > >> http://burdwan01.kwc.kohalibrary.com/ > - search digital library > > > >> or LIS related terms). > > >> > > >> Hope to see a brave open world > > >> > > >> Dr. Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > > >> Department of Library and Information > Science > > > >> University of Burdwan, > > >> Burdwan, Rajbati - 713104, WB > > >> > --------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> > From: "Sukhdev Singh" > > >> > To: "SatishDpnd at Adroit" > > > >> > Cc: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > >> > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] > SOUL-NewGenLib-OpenSource Debate > > > >> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:16:33 +0530 > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Dear All, > > >> > > > >> > I don't think we should shy away > from any debate. But > > > unfortunately>> > LIS Community in India > seems to be relatively > > shy of healthy > > >> debates.> > > >> > > > >> > If I am given a chance to implement a > Library Automation > > > >> System, I > > >> > would prefer a model in the following > order: > > >> > > > >> > 1. Open Source Solution. For the freedom > it provides in > > terms of > > >> > 'owning' the systems for long > term use. I won't mind taking > > > a paid > > >> > support service. > > >> > > > >> > 2. Free Software. For it won't > burden my budgets and won't > > >> trouble me > > >> > with approvals of higher authorities. > > > >> > > > >> > 3. Commercial Solution. I would be going > for it if none is > > available>> > in Open Source domain. I will > keep myself ready > > for migration > > >> to an > > > >> > Open Source Solution. > > >> > > > >> > I still feel that efforts required for > training and > > implementation>> > remains the same for all > models of softwares. > > > >> > > > >> > I would still like to hear more on KOHA > Vs NewGenLib. I am > > impressed>> > with the Delhi Public > Library's ( > > http://dpl.gov.in/ ) > > > >> implementation> of KOHA, though I have no > idea of inside story > > >> about it. I would like > > >> > to see NewGenLib's implementation > available for public view. > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks > > >> > > > >> > --Sukhdev Singh. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:51 PM, > SatishDpnd at Adroit > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, > Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message > > > >> 2 and earlier > > >> > > discussions on the topic > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Dear LIS professionals > > >> > > > > >> > > The debate on NewGenLib v/s SOUL is > simply not necessary > > > >> because I feel both > > >> > > are meant for different segments of > LIS market.? SOUL > > >> was developed by > > >> > > INFLIBNET years back under the > aegis of UGC to support > > > >> academic Library > > >> > > community which at that time was > unable to invest in > > >> proprietary LMS.? The > > >> > > initial College edition of SOUL was > costing merely > > > >> Rs.15,000/- (until > > >> > > recently) when proprietary > standalone LMS was costing Rs.1 > > >> lac.? There are > > >> > > more than 1600 SOUL installations > in India.? Just think > > > >> of them !? What > > >> > > should they do ?? Get free-upgrade > of SOUL 2.0 (with > > >> moderate costs of > > >> > > installation) or go for > NewGenLib/Koha which is free and > > > >> open source.? SOUL > > >> > > 2.0 has added many more facilities > to its previous > > >> version.? It's web-based, > > >> > > many International Standards have > been adopted and it is > > > SIP2/NCIP>> > > compatible too.? Now > think of those smaller libraries > > >> which have only couple > > >> > > of staff, what should they do ?? > Use readily available > > >> upgraded LMS or > > > >> > > switch over to free, open source > NewGenLib or Koha - for > > >> which neither they > > >> > > have expertise nor time to devote. > > >> > > > > >> > > All of us those who are adopting > Open Source software know > > > >> very well that > > >> > > it needs substantial > staff-time-investment - may it be for > > >> data migration, > > >> > > customising each function to suit > to one's needs or even > > > >> fixing small > > >> > > problem of default currency.? Open > Source LMS is only a > > >> powerful engine, but > > >> > > whether one can make a racing car > out of it or not depends > > > >> upon availability > > >> > > of the workshop facilities, latest > tools and machinery, > > >> research staff to > > >> > > support and designing team to take > care of its > > > >> dynamics.? Therefore I would > > >> > > not blindly support Open Source > just because it is almost > > >> free compared to > > >> > > proprietary LMS - but would > strongly advocate use of SOUL > > > >> 2.0 by those who > > >> > > would like to concentrate more on > user-services than > > >> breaking their heads in > > >> > > customising Open Source LMS. > > >> > > > > > >> > > SOUL 2.0 is a step towards > upgrading efficiency of LIS > > >> community as a whole > > >> > > at very negligible input costs.? > Those who feel the > > >> SOUL 2.0 rates are high > > > >> > > should enquire for? rates for > proprietary LMS in the > > >> market, and also how > > >> > > much would it cost to customise > Open Source with facilities > > >> which are > > > >> > > offered by SOUL 2.0. > > >> > > > > >> > > I have yet not come across any > fully operational Open Source > > >> LMS in any of > > >> > > the large Libraries in India.? > Many open source > > > >> agencies claim that each and > > >> > > every module/facility can be > customised, e.g. Template > > >> designs, RSS Feeds, > > >> > > Blogs, Federated Search, scheduled > auto e-mail generators, > > > >> Customised> > Reports, MIS stats, > Online Reservation facility, > > >> built-in SIP2/NCIP, > > >> > > Video-streaming facility through > web-OPAC, importing records > > >> from web > > > >> > > catalogues, exporting records in > variety of formats, remote > > >> log-ins, Serials > > >> > > Management etc., but when it comes > to practical > > >> implementation, it takes > > > >> > > months together to mould them to > match needs of the > > organisation.>> > > > > >> > > Therefore I will never ever > criticise indigenous LMS like > > >> SOUL.? It is/was > > > >> > > developed for specific > cause/purpose and not for competing > > >> with proprietary > > >> > > LMS or to discourage use of Open > Source LMS.? We all > > >> should recommend it to > > > >> > > all those who are short of > resources and do not have > > >> time/expertise to > > >> > > customise freely available > open-source. > > >> > > > > >> > > Would certainly welcome your views > > > >> > > > > >> > > Happy LMSing ! > > >> > > > > >> > > satish deshpande > > >> > > formerly Head British Council > Library Ahmedabad > > >> > > > > > >> > > Mentor, Nirma University Libraries; > Adviser, KM&IC, National > > >> Institute of > > >> > > Design, Ahmedabad > > >> > > M???? :?? 098250 30460 > > >> > > email :? satish.dpnd at gmail.com > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, > Vol 72, Issue 13 : > > Message 2 > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Message: 2 > > >> > >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 > +0530 (IST) > > >> > >> From: "I.R.N.Goudar" > > > > >> > >> Subject: [LIS-Forum] > SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB > > >> > >> To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > >> > >> Message-ID: > > >> > > >> > > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Dear Professionals, > > >> > >> Herewith I have forwarded my > response I sent through lis- > > > >> forum soon after > > >> > >> the announcement of NewGenLib > as open source software. My > > >> message answers > > >> > >> few questions raised by few LIS > colleagues. Ther is no poin > > > >> in discussing > > >> > >> the merits and demerits of > SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, > > >> Suchika, etc. > > >> > >> At this juncture of avilability > of open source software, > > > >> what should be > > >> > >> our (librarians) stand? What > responsible institutions like > > >> INFLIBNET,> >> NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, > Keshavan Institute, etc > > >> should do? Government has > > > >> > >> spent lot of? money various > agencies for the > > >> development of good library > > >> > >> automation? system. Some of > them were cooked half? > > >> Discontinued further > > > >> > >> developments? some of them > never saw the light of the day? > > >> Some of > > >> > >> them did not get good support > after sale or implementation? > > >> While I have > > > >> > >> full confidence in the > capability and vision of present > > >> director of > > >> > >> INFLIBNET for developing SOUL > as one of the good system, my > > >> basic question > > > >> > >> is, at this juncture is it > necessary still put efforts > > and spend > > >> > >> money on such developments, > when so many open source > > >> softawre are > > >> > >> available? NEWGENLIB, apart > from using open source > > > >> flatform, uses only > > >> > >> open standards. It has stood > test ofthe time. At national > > >> level we > > >> > >> should have customization, > migration and support service > > > >> > >> arrangements on any open system > we adopt. 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Here is sort of top ten list: http://oedb.org/blogs/ilibrarian/2009/10-websites-for-book-lovers/ Dr P Vyasamoorthy, 30 Gruhalakshmi Colony, Secunderabad 500015 Ph 27846631 / 9490804278 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090319/952b9df7/attachment.html From nsureshfcri at yahoo.co.in Thu Mar 19 10:10:52 2009 From: nsureshfcri at yahoo.co.in (suresh kumar) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:10:52 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] article request- IASLIC cof. SIG Industrial information-dec 2004in Message-ID: <734565.6679.qm@web95406.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Deatr Members, I would like to get?an article presented in 2004 conf.. of IASLIC SIG Industrial information - Digital information Resources for industrial sector- A focus on enterprises growth by Sri Probhir Kumar Day for the use of my research work. I should be most grateful?, if anyone can help me in this regard. N.Suresh kumar, Library Officer, ?FCRI( Govt. of India) , Palakkad - 678623. Mob 09447187206 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From apassion2002 at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 10:59:09 2009 From: apassion2002 at gmail.com (Ajay Kamble) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:59:09 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] No Octroi Tax on Books Transportation - Circular Message-ID: <8641f3070903182229i7345aa8exddce44a5fda98387@mail.gmail.com> Dear Professionals, Book Exhibition is one of the most important activity carried out by libraries to exhibit or purchase new books for its users. When some library organise Book exhibition, They have to invite various Book Publishers and Sellers to exhibit and sell their books in book exhibition. A Circular Of Maharashtra Government regarding exemption in Octroi Tax will be useful at the time of books exhibition. You may hand it over to your supplier/publisher and help him. If you are travelling somewhere and purchased some books for your library, you can also keep this circular with you to prevent Octroi consequences. The Circular is available at www.mlsc.co.nr. -- Ajay M. Kamble Librarian Annasaheb Vartak Arts, Commerce, Science College, Vasai Road (W), Dist. Thane - 401202 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090319/315130c8/attachment.html From hemantharao.kr at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 12:42:47 2009 From: hemantharao.kr at gmail.com (Hemantha Rao KR) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:42:47 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Patent issues concerned with library Message-ID: <5f946db60903190012i55951311x9e33b9869a4997cb@mail.gmail.com> Dear professionals, I attended seminar on "Issues Beyond Patent, with Focus on: Patent Commercialisation" on 17th, March whcih is conducted in Jawaharlal Nehru Centre for Advanced Scientific Research, Bangalore. From that I came to know about commercialization of patents, factors impacting patent licensing and many more. That talk was more concententrated on scientist aspects only. I want to know about how these IPR and patent issues concerned with library. Can any one send me useful information. Thanks, Hemantha Rao KR, LIM Trainee, NCSI, IISc Banglore-560012. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090319/0314ccc1/attachment.html From mkrlib at uohyd.ernet.in Thu Mar 19 13:41:48 2009 From: mkrlib at uohyd.ernet.in (Dr. M. Koteswara Rao) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:41:48 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] PGDLAN - Last Date extended Message-ID: Dear All, The last date for applying for PGDLAN course at University of Hyderabad has been extended up to 31 March 2009. Coordinator- PGDLAN University of Hyderabad -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From khaiser.nikam at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 15:55:43 2009 From: khaiser.nikam at gmail.com (khaiser nikam) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:55:43 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Plz circulate this inaugural invitation Message-ID: UNIVERSITY OF MYSORE Department of Library and Information Science (UGC ? SAP supported) National Workshop On NewGenLib Open Source Integrated Library System (OS-ILS) (24 ? 26 March 2009) Prof. P. Venkataramaiah Former Vice-Chancellor, Kuvempu University *Will Inaugurate* * * Sri. L.J. Haravu Managing Trustee Kesavan Institute of Information and Knowledge Management (KIIKM) Secunderabad *Will Preside* * * *You are cordially invited* Date & Time Tuesday 24th March 2009 10.30 A M Venue: MLISc Lecture Hall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Khiaser Nikam Chairperson and Convener -- Regards, Dr.(Mrs) Khaiser Nikam MLISc,PhD & MBA Chairperson/Reader Department of Library and Information Science University of Mysore Mysore-570 006 Karnataka INDIA Cell:98453 28672 91-821-2415202(R) 2419399(O) email : khaiser.nikam at gmail.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090319/4522f231/attachment-0001.html From mailman at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Thu Mar 19 11:06:30 2009 From: mailman at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in (Mailing List Admin) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:06:30 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] NATIONAL SEMINAR ON MANUSCRIPTS AND BOOKS CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT -The Thanjavur Maharaja Serfoji's Sarasvati Mahal Library and Research Centre Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:57:58 +0530 (IST) From: B sundar Dear friends. Pls Inform all LIS Professionals & Teachers & Research Scholars ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- NATIONAL SEMINAR ON MANUSCRIPTS AND BOOKS CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT Date : 4th - 6th April 2009 Organised by The Thanjavur Maharaja Serfoji?s Sarasvati Mahal Library and Research Centre,Thanjavur Venue : Sangeetha Mahal, Palace Complex, Thanjavur Objective : To discuss and evolving a common solution for uniform and proper conservation technique to the multifarious problems faced in preservation in the libraries. Topics : Problems of Manuscript and book conservation Traditional and Modern methods of conservation. Proper storage and other management procedures Digitization of manuscripts Microfilming vis-?-vis digitization Restoration and conservation etc., Development and new techniques of future libraries. Registration : Participants are required to pay a registration fee of Rs.500/- The Registration fee is to be paid as crossed Demand Draft in favour of Director, T.M.S.S.M. Library and Research Centre, Thanjavur. Each Participant has to fill up a separate Registration form. The Registration fee covers seminar papers, kits working lunch, local visit etc. Moderate accommodation will be arranged. Call of Papers: Authors are invited to contribute papers on the main theme for presentation in the seminar. Accepted papers / Abstracts will be published as proceedings of the conference. The paper for presentation should not be more than six (A4) pages and font 12 points in times new roman, 1.5 line spacing with softcopy in floppy or CD in MS word format on the main theme for presentation. The last date to receive the completed application with synopsis of papers will be 20th March and last date for full paper will be 30th March 2009. The application may be sent to The administrative officer, T.M.S.S.M Library and Research Centre, Thanjavur. A local visit will be arranged on the last day of the seminar. The Seminar arrangement are being made under the direction of The District Collector and Director T.M.S.S.M Library and Research Institute, Thanjavur 613 009 Organising Secretary Thiru sami. Sivagnanam Administrative officer Organising Committee: 1.Dr. Perumal ., Conservator and Librarian Gr I (i/c) 2. Smt. K. Ramathilagam, Librarian Gr II 3. Dr.S.Sudharsan, Librarian Gr II 4. Smt. Rajalakshmi, Sanskrit Pandit 5. Dr. A. Veeraraghavan, Sanskrit pandit For other details contact Thiru sami. Sivagnanam The Administrative Officer T.M.S.S.M library and Research Centre Thanjavur 613 009. Ph: (04362) 233568 , 234107 Email : tmssmlib at sancharnet .in Dr. Perumal, 9442401129. Dr.S.Sudharsan 9442347147 Application Name (Prof/Dr/Mr/ Mrs)_____ _________ _________ _ Designation ____________ _________ _________ _____ Organisation_ _________ _________ _________ ________ Mailing Address_____ _________ _________ _________ __ Pin Code________ _________ _________ _________ ____ Email_______ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Fax_________ ______ Phone_______ _________ _________ Mobile no._________ _________ _________ _________ ____ Are you presenting a paper Yes /No If yes, Title of the Paper Accommodation required: Yes / No Registration Fee details DD No. Bank : Amount Date Signature From Library at Arboretum.org.in Thu Mar 19 16:13:12 2009 From: Library at Arboretum.org.in (Library at Arboretum.org.in) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:13:12 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Inauguration of School Library Message-ID: <49C26F18.6149.8F38DB@localhost> Dear All, The inaugural function of School Library in Government Primary School, Urban Colony, Bhongir would be held on Friday, March 20, 2009, 10 am. All are cordially invited. How to reach: >From Hyderabad/Secunderabad, catch any bus which goes to Yadagirigutta and get down at Bhongir Main District Bus Stand. Hire an auto. The auto fare would be about Rs.15. Please carry a water bottle and something to eat. Thanks Sincerely Prafulla mobile: 93962 51106 T.V. Prafulla Chandra Research Officer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dharma Vana Arboretum Administrative Office Plot 95/1, Phase 2 IDA Cherlapally Hyderabad 500 051 Andhra Pradesh India Mobile: 93962 51106 Phones Direct +91 40 2726 0930 +91 40 3911 4202 EPABX +91 40 2726 0801 Ext. 202 +91 40 2726 0802 Ext. 202 +91 40 3911 4200 Ext. 202 Fax +91 40 3911 4219 www.arboretum.org.in ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From anil67 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 19 17:35:39 2009 From: anil67 at yahoo.com (Anil Kumar) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Financial Crisis and libraries concerns Message-ID: <112415.62216.qm@web31105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear All The global financial crisis is moving towards emerging economies like India and one can see clear impact in the library sector. Rising dollar rates and (unfounded) price increase in journals and databases defy the logic of increased demand leads to decrease in prices. On a general note it is quite evident that all libraries have been faced with budget cuts, directly or indirectly. In India the same product today costs about 30-40 % higher than previous year. This is mainly because of the fact that US dollar prices (common currency we pay for foreign titles) has gone up from about Rs. 40 a dollar a year back to about Rs. 51 a dollar today. Add to this the greedy publishers have increased their prices in the range of 7-15%. Now even if we do not look at cut in budget and increase it by 10% as in the bygone days, one cannot subscribe to the same content as we did last year. The point is that where does all this lead to. We may soon have a time when even major libraries will not be able to afford to subscribe to content on a continous basis. With global crisis looming large at our doorsteps we need to work out alternatives in this direction and be prepared to face the worst case scenario. My hunch is that if all libraries and publishers put their head together we may come out with sensible solutions without harming each others survival. Survival may be a strong word but does not have a substitute, atleast for the publishers first. Globally one can see movements to contain the impact of future financial constraints. It is time that we in India, as librarians, get together and plan for the challenges. Maybe we should think of reduction in subscription but not reduction in access (through resource sharing). It is high time that we really looked at proper resource sharing and reducing costs so that we can maintain same or more access levels. Thanks H Anil Kumar Librarian Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From goudar at nal.res.in Thu Mar 19 17:39:14 2009 From: goudar at nal.res.in (I.R.N.Goudar) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:39:14 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] FREE-Conf. on Scholarly Commun. & OA Message-ID: Dear Professional Colleagues, DON'T MISS THIS GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO WORLD CLASS EXPERTS ON OA AND PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION. NAL in collaboration with IASc and CIS has organised compact one day conference on "Scholarly Communication in India in the Age of the Commons(Open Access)" on 26 March 2009 at NAL, Bangalore. Apart from Prof. Balaram Director, IISc a galaxy of academicians/scientists/editors/ information scientists like Prof. N. Mukunda, VP, IASc; Prof. Johm Willinsky, Stanford University; Prof Leslie Chan, Univ of Toronto; Dr. AR Uapdhya, Director, NAL; Dr. Sunil Abraham Director-Policy, CIS; Dr. DK Sahu, Medknow Publications; Prof Subbaiah Arunachalam; and Mr NV Sathyanarayana, MD, Informatics India will be delivering talks/ participating in Panel Discussion on " "Scholarly Communication and Openness: Emerging Trends". The registration is free and open to all. I request you to kindly inform about this event to your colleagues. Details are given below. Dr. I.R.N. Goudar ----------- One Day Open Conference( NO REGISTRATION FEE) on Scholarly Communication in India in the Age of the Commons(Open Access) 26th March, 2009: 9.30AM - 4.15PM Venue: S.R. Valluri Auditorium National Aerospace Laboratories, Bangalore-560017 --------------- ORGANIZERS: National Aerospace Laboratories (as part of its Golden Jubilee Celebrations) Indian Academy of Sciences Centre for Internet and Society PARTICIPANTS: Welcome to Policy makers, Academicians, Scientists, Editors, Publishers, Media persons, Librarians, etc. TOPICS COVERED: Scholarly Communication, Research Publication Issues, Copyrights of Publishing Authors, Publishers Attitude, Open Access (OA) Movement, OA Scenario in the World and India OA Declarations, OA Channels: OA Journals, Repositories, OA Policy: National and Institutional Level, OA Challenges: Economic, Societal Impact of OA on Science Communication INAUGURAL KEYNOTE: Prof. HS Mukunda, Vice President, Indian Academy of Sciences SPEAKERS: Prof. John Willinsky, Stanford University Prof. Leslie Chan, University of Toronto Dr D K Sahu, MedKnow Publications Dr. Sunil Abraham, Director, Centre for Internet and Society PANEL DISCUSSION: 2.45 - 4.15 pm "Scholarly Communication and Openness: Emerging Trends" Prof. P Balaram, Director, IISc & Editor, Curr. Sci. CHAIRMAN Prof. John Willinsky, Stanford University Panelist Prof. Leslie Chan, University of Toronto Panelist Dr. A.R. Upadhya, Director, NAL Panelist Mr. N.V. Sathyanarayana, MD,Informatics India Panelist Prof. Subbiah Arunachalam, Centre for Internet and Soc. Panelist BACKGROUND: Open Access to the scientific literature means the removal of barriers, including price barrier, for accessing scholarly work. In today's knowledge based society the advent of Internet and widespread and easy access to scientific information are facilitating research and innovation. Open Access is not only changing the nature of scholarly communication but even the way research is carried out. Indeed open access is the bedrock on which the emerging global research library initiative is being built. Scientists and scientific institutions in India - some of them to be precise - have moved up in the value chain in that they access information and disseminate their findings often through barrier-free electronic channels. Out of about 4500 open access journals (OAJ) world over, India accounts for 150 titles. The major Indian contributors for OAJ include Indian Academy of Sciences, Indian National Science Academy, MedKnow Publications and NISCAIR. About 50 institutes have set up their institutional open access repositories including IISc, NAL, NIO, RRI, IIAP, IITs, etc. Prof. Samir Brahmachari, Director General of CSIR, came up with the Open Source Drug Discovery programme as an alternative to the traditional patent-driven model of drug research. Recently CSIR has adopted open access policy as recommended by its Group of Open Access Science Publications. Thus open access - both for accessing worldwide information and for making our own research more visible - is not new to India. But one must admit that considering the size of India's research and higher education enterprise what we have achieved so far is utterly inadequate to commensurate with our ambition to become a knowledge power. We have a long way to go. And the first step is to adopt open access nationwide. This one day conference on "Conference on Scholarly Communication in India in the Age of the Commons" is organized to take stock of the current developments in Open Access and to highlight the issues that would need to be addressed to enable a wider access to scientific knowledge and to enhance the visibility of research performed in India. PS: While spot registration is allowed, we request you to kindly register through e-mail along with name, designation, address, contact telephone and e-mail. We have not made any arrangements for accommodation. Conference Site: http://www.icast.org.in/events/OA-Conf.html For more information please contact: Dr.(Mrs) Poornima Narayana Deputy Head, ICAST National Aerospace Laboratories Airport Road, BANGALORE-560017 Tel:080-25086083 Fax:25260862 Email: poornima at nal.res.in -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. I.R.N. Goudar Tel: 91-80-25086081 Sci G & Head, Information Centre for 91-80-25235315 Aerospace Science and Technology Fax: 91-80-25268072 National Aerospace Laboratories E-mail:goudar at css.nal.res.in Airport Road, BANGALORE-560 017 India http://www.icast.org.in/staff/goudar.html -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 14:55:05 2009 From: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com (DINESH SIDDAIAH) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:25:05 +0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Sony e-book reader gets 500,000 books from Google Message-ID: <62c911520903200225t45dba8frb118ecdcb573759c@mail.gmail.com> Dear Friends, Sony e-book reader gets 500,000 books from Google Google is making half a million books, unprotected by copyright, available for free on Sony Corp's electronic book-reading device. It's the first time Google has made its vast trove of scanned public-domain books available to an e-book device, and vaults the Sony Reader past Amazon.com Inc's Kindle as the device with the largest available library, at about 600,000 books. The books are already available as free downloads in the Portable Document Format (PDF), which works well on computer screens but not on e-book readers. Google will provide the books to the Sony Reader in the EPUB (electronic publication) format, which lets the lines flow differently to fit a smaller screen. Source: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Sony-e-book-reader-gets-5L-books/rssarticleshow/4285419.cms Thanking You, Dinesh -- Dr. Dinesh K. S. MLISc., Ph.D. Selection Grade Librarian, Nagarjuna College of Engineering & Technology, Devanahalli, Bengaluru - 562 110. Ph: +91-9845102382, Email: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Blog: ksdinesh.blogspot.com, Official Blog: libraryofncet.blogspot.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090320/f702e9ca/attachment-0001.html From puna_05 at yahoo.co.in Fri Mar 20 15:04:05 2009 From: puna_05 at yahoo.co.in (Puna Das) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:04:05 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Just Published: "Open Educational Resources: Conversations in Cyberspace" by UNESCO Publishing Message-ID: <456776.31180.qm@web95406.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Just Published "Open Educational Resources: Conversations in Cyberspace" Edited by Susan d'Antoni and Catriona Savage Education on the Move series Price: 12,00 ? Paris: UNESCO Publishing, 2009. ISBN: 978-92-3-104085-6 Abstract Education systems today face two major challenges: expanding the reach of education and improving its quality. Traditional solutions will not suffice, especially in the context of today's knowledge-intensive societies. The Open Educational Resources movement offers one solution for extending the reach of education and expanding learning opportunities. The goal of the movement is to equalize access to knowledge worldwide through openly and freely available online high-quality content. UNESCO has contributed to building global awareness about Open Educational Resources, through facilitating an extended conversation in cyberspace. Over the course of two years, a large and diverse international community came together in a series of online discussion forums to discuss the concept of Open Educational Resources and its potential. In making the background papers and reports from those discussions available for the first time in print, this publication seeks to share even more widely the contributions made by so many. It is intended for all who may be intrigued by the Open Educational Resources movement ? its promise and its progress. Table of Contents Foreword/ Nicholas Burnett Introduction/ Susan D?Antoni SECTION 1 - A FIRST FORUM: PRESENTING THE OPEN EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES (OER) MOVEMENT 1. Open Educational Resources: an introductory note/ Sally Johnstone 2. Providing OER and related issues: an introductory note/ Anne Margulies, Richard Baraniuk, Candace Thille, David Wiley 3. Using OER and related issues: an introductory note/ Mohammed-Nabil Sabry, Peter Bateman, Pedro Aranzadi, Derrick Tate 4. Discussion highlights/ Paul Albright SECTION 2 - ONGOING DISCUSSION 5. A research agenda for OER: discussion highlights/ Kim Tucker and Peter Bateman 6. A 'Do-It-Yourself' resource for OER: discussion highlights/ Boris Vukovic 7. Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) and OER: Part I - An introductory note/ Boris Vukovic with Claude Martin Part 2 - Discussion highlights/ Boris Vukovic SECTION 3 - A SECOND FORUM: DISCUSSING THE OECD STUDY OF OER 8. Mapping producers and users/ Jan Hyl?n 9. Why individuals and institutions share and use OER/ Jan Hyl?n 10. Discussion highlights/ Alexa Joyce SECTION 4 - PRIORITIES FOR ACTION 11. Open Educational Resources: the way forward/ Susan D'Antoni More Info: http://publishing.unesco.org/details.aspx?Code_Livre=4671 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anup Kumar Das New Delhi, India http://anupkumardas.blogspot.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From chandra_gadhari2006 at rediffmail.com Fri Mar 20 15:06:30 2009 From: chandra_gadhari2006 at rediffmail.com (chandra shekar) Date: 20 Mar 2009 09:36:30 -0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] IPR-library Message-ID: <20090320093630.44216.qmail@f4mail-234-242.rediffmail.com> I will try let you know in brief, IPR is a part of Research and development in Industrial age. Most of R&D organizations having IPR as a department. Their major role is filing patents (getting license) in international and domestic market on current working and concerned projects. Patent is one of the most important source of information which can be defined as a formal description of an innovation. Accordingly patent documents are highly useful for R&D activities. Some times IPR dept itself can do all the process according to their requirements; their requirements can be based on sources/facilities which are available in R&D Library like ? Down loading patents ? Patents Clipping Service ? CD-ROM databases ? Patent Index to Chemical Abstract books ? Patent related journals / IPR Journals ? IPR Related books ? Controller General of Patents and Design ? Patent Gazettes ? Online IPR related database Access ? Conducting Literature Search ? Intellectual Property Rights Bulletins These are the minimum things one R&D Library should have to run IPR. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090320/e0ffe1de/attachment-0001.html From pku at nic.in Fri Mar 20 18:47:47 2009 From: pku at nic.in (Upadhyay P K) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:17:47 +0500 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Myths of Open Source Software In-Reply-To: <5d6bc5c70903170051r38d28591r207fbe08f9e760bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <5d6bc5c70903170051r38d28591r207fbe08f9e760bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7b44ae041022570.49c3ddcb@nic.in> Dear friends, Let me consolidate my vews in response to many of the professionals who discussed the topic with me in person and through this forum: All the LMS and DL software providers (commercial and OSS) should host limited or full versions of their softwares at their servers for practice or trial by LIS schools and libraries across the country with multimedia recordings. Even they can host the limited version (let's say upto 3000 records) free for download by anybody and use. Now many of the agencies are providing the software and database to be hosted at their servers with authentication and authorization to libraries. This is a welcome step. Even for LIS schools they can create an account in the name of schools for use and study by students. Either small or big, all the libraries should host their databas and website at their secure ISP site and at least integrated with your enterprise Intranet. For main libraries and branch libraries there should be only one database and software. For example Delhi Govt schools are having one databse and software, BSI Libaries are networked into one portal, ZSI Library system is one , One University should maintain one common database and software, etc. Of course , I am talking of ideal situation. There may be practical issues. But at point we will have to overcome . For 'be Indian and buy Indian' and simultaneously utilize the globalization trends, I would suggest LIS Schools, IITs, Compter Science Departments, Open Technology Centres to come out with their own core tools, systems softwares and products with localization. Only use and customization of OSS will kill the ceativity. There was a renowned Government of India scientific organization approached us for automation , networking and DL creation and hosting of all their 15 centres across India, but they didnot have proper Internet connectivity or LAN setup. We compelled them to build first your high speed connectivity for IntraNet services and all of them are interconnected though one database and a portal. There are many success and failure stories both in OSS and proprietary solutions. One GOI organization created a big digital repository using popular OSS using outsourced agency for an amount of Rs 2 crore. After four years that agency is not available and there is no community of that OSS. We tried to understand the codes and architecure, but it seems to be difficult task but not impossible to port somewhere on other platform. Some of the GOI organizations with their limited vision decided to only use OSS in their organizations. Now they they are turning back to vendor solutions for critical applications and to avoid risks. with regards P K Upadhyay NIC, Delhi ----- Original Message ----- From: "N.S. Harinarayana" Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:33 pm Subject: [LIS-Forum] Open Source Software To: lisforum > I would like to dive into the discussion with my observations as a > teacher and a professional assisting, in a small way, the librarians > in my city in their automation projects: > > * For a teacher like me, open source software is a > boon. It is > difficult for library schools to purchase commercial software. > Even if > they are purchased, their maintenance and updation would be difficult > as they involve financial commitment from the schools. For this reason > some library schools delayed the introduction of > practical sessions > on library automation systems in their syllabus. Experience show that > commercial vendors were not very supportive for library schools in > offering their software at nominal cost/free of cost. Though some > software were available on demo version for library schools, their > installation required some other supportive software (RDBMS) which > were expensive. As a result library schools were not in > favourableposition to use those software too. With > the emergence of open > source software, library schools now have options to include the > software training in their curriculum. They can also now > stay updated > by using the latest version of the integrated library system. > > > * As rightly pointed out by many, Indian libraries have > the options > for free software (software for a very nominal cost) since late > eighties. For instance, CDS/ISIS has become quite popular among > Indian libraries. CDS/ISIS has a success story among many Indian > libraries. Its success is not just because it is freely > available.There are many other factors for its success. > The most important > reason that I believe for its success is that as CDS/ISIS is developed > by a reputed international organization and promoted by a well-known > national organization, it has been accepted by professional fraternity > with much confidence. I feel that any open software to succeed, there > should be a strong and reliable support from a well-known institution. > > It is not a bad idea to come out with a model where an > institution of > high stature in India officially adopts/promotes one or more open > source software depending upon their merit. > > * As days go by, I am sure there will be a number of options > open for > librarians even for choosing of open source software is concerned. > Forums like this should be used to exchange not only the success > stories but more importantly the failure stories as well. > A more > articulate professional may come out their results in the form of > article(s) in professional journals/conferences. This > helps the > profession in general. > > -- > N.S. Harinarayana > Department of Library and Information Science > University of Mysore, Manasagangotri > Mysore 570 006 > Off. 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From pawan.jp at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 11:58:49 2009 From: pawan.jp at gmail.com (Dr Pawan Kumar Gupta) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:58:49 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Open Source Software In-Reply-To: <5d6bc5c70903170051r38d28591r207fbe08f9e760bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <5d6bc5c70903170051r38d28591r207fbe08f9e760bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ccc9a720903212328v31893255vcfe7819446d06329@mail.gmail.com> Dear N.S. Harinarayana, As I understand the following view needs to be revised. "* For a teacher like me, open source software is a boon. It is difficult for library schools to purchase commercial software. Even if they are purchased, their maintenance and updating would be difficult as they involve financial commitment from the schools. For this reason some library schools delayed the introduction of practical sessions on library automation systems in their syllabus During my recent talks with the Director at INFLIBNET, Dr Jagdish Arora, I have come to know that they are planning to help many LIS schools in the country to help them overcome their financial constraints in acquiring library software to teach to the students. I am sure such a step of INFLIBNET shall contribute to library software education, alleviate problems of many a LIS schools, and shall be instrumental in moving the libraries in the country a step forward. With best wishes. 2009/3/17 N.S. Harinarayana > I would like to dive into the discussion with my observations as a > teacher and a professional assisting, in a small way, the librarians > in my city in their automation projects: > > * For a teacher like me, open source software is a boon. It is > difficult for library schools to purchase commercial software. Even if > they are purchased, their maintenance and updation would be difficult > as they involve financial commitment from the schools. For this reason > some library schools delayed the introduction of practical sessions > on library automation systems in their syllabus. Experience show that > commercial vendors were not very supportive for library schools in > offering their software at nominal cost/free of cost. Though some > software were available on demo version for library schools, their > installation required some other supportive software (RDBMS) which > were expensive. As a result library schools were not in favourable > position to use those software too. With the emergence of open > source software, library schools now have options to include the > software training in their curriculum. They can also now stay updated > by using the latest version of the integrated library system. > > > * As rightly pointed out by many, Indian libraries have the options > for free software (software for a very nominal cost) since late > eighties. For instance, CDS/ISIS has become quite popular among > Indian libraries. CDS/ISIS has a success story among many Indian > libraries. Its success is not just because it is freely available. > There are many other factors for its success. The most important > reason that I believe for its success is that as CDS/ISIS is developed > by a reputed international organization and promoted by a well-known > national organization, it has been accepted by professional fraternity > with much confidence. I feel that any open software to succeed, there > should be a strong and reliable support from a well-known institution. > > It is not a bad idea to come out with a model where an institution of > high stature in India officially adopts/promotes one or more open > source software depending upon their merit. > > * As days go by, I am sure there will be a number of options open for > librarians even for choosing of open source software is concerned. > Forums like this should be used to exchange not only the success > stories but more importantly the failure stories as well. A more > articulate professional may come out their results in the form of > article(s) in professional journals/conferences. This helps the > profession in general. > > -- > N.S. Harinarayana > Department of Library and Information Science > University of Mysore, Manasagangotri > Mysore 570 006 > Off. 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URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090322/e25fde3b/attachment-0001.html From pawan.jp at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 11:50:16 2009 From: pawan.jp at gmail.com (Dr Pawan Kumar Gupta) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:50:16 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Fwd: Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software In-Reply-To: <6ccc9a720903212316n7767d410oc2379e93864a59ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090313114351.98BD87BD58@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> <1587da30462ee398.49be4583@nic.in> <6ccc9a720903212316n7767d410oc2379e93864a59ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ccc9a720903212320r148577a1v1c7beffd8f8a5b28@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dr Pawan Kumar Gupta Date: 2009/3/22 Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software To: forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Cc: pku at nic.in, "Dr. Jagdish Arora" Dear Upadhyay and other friends, I share the views expressed (by Upadhyay and a few others thinking in line with him). This is not the job of a librarian to simply move in to the area of programmer. If we are not supposed to be electrician, a sweeper, an engineers, or a doctor; where is the problem if we are not a programmer. We should be able to understand the language of the programmer like other professions, we should be able to express our needs effectively and hire the services of programmers. It would be better if we devote our selves in understanding lib & inf sc better, as compared to using our major part of the time in understanding code of open source software. We should use available helpful semi-commercial (like SOUL, hardly a cost in comparison to other commercial software), or if we wish to and can afford commercial software like LIBSYS and so on rather than start understanding the code for OSS. "If they could have used even CDS/ISIS or an MS ACCESS database for data entry at least 60% work could have been over in terms of automation." is a perfect view. i have devoted some time in counselling in IGNOU programmes etc. And with regular interactions with LIS personnel, especially in Rajasthan, I am of the firm view that given the manpower and infrastructure, and keeping in view the finances available with majority of college and public libraries they should go with something like WINISIS for generating their catalogue and afford effective searching for their patrons. Now with SOUL, not a costly software, and regular support from INFLIBNET (already the improved free replacement with SOUL 2 available), small and medium sized libraries should go for such products. We need to automate all libraies with the means available at our disposal. People in the profession having a better understanding should devote to "migration, data conversion or enterprise integrating those softwares solutions" used by various libraries. Nicely written Mr Upadhyay, needs to be applauded. With best wishes. 2009/3/16 Upadhyay P K Dear professionals, > > My view regarding open source solution vs proprietary are as follows. > > 1. There are ceratin myths about open source softwares. It is a good topic > of discussion and academic study and reserch. But the moment we try to > implement, problems arise out. Of course in any new implementation/change, > there are problems. People are the most important component in any solution > , open source or closed source. > > 2. Total cost of ownership(TCO) is high in case of open source solution. If > you consider the Software installation, server setup, training, AMC, > hosting, security, follow-up, customization the cost will be high. In > relation to the total implementation, cost of software is negligible. We > should not be worry about the open or closed softwares, our motive should be > Proper Information Systems Solution. The management and parent organization > never stop if a good proposal with time bound implementation is put for > financial approval. Government of India has allocated Rs 23000 crore for > eGovernance during 11th Plan . Many of the organizations are not able to > spend their ICT bugdet or sometime spend anyhow. > > 3. In India we are fighting for the softwares and codes developed by > Western Countries- both Open Source tools, OS, Systems Softwares and > majority of the open source softwares( for example Windows, Linux, .NET, > JAVA, IIS, Apache, etc). They are developing and launching these projects, > and in developping countries including India we are not able to decide which > software are to be used. Althogh we should appreciate the efforts of > NEWGENLIB team from India and many Open Technology Centres have been > started. > > 4. Only people are talking in fashion of open source, freedom of owning , > because it seems free but it's not if you talk of total solution. It has > become a fashion to talk of RFID, SmartCard, Web 2.0, Social Networking, > MARC, UNICODE, Mobile OPAC, Digital Libraries, etc, even if there is no > basic infrastructure like latest hardware, networking infrastructure, web > hosting , data entry plan, etc. > > 5. Earlier also there were almost free software like CDS/ISIS from UNESCO, > DELPLUS from DELNET(with only Rs 7500 or so), SOUL for college university > from INFLIBNET (with Rs 50000), but libraries did not utilize the > opportunity. Majority of libraries does not have capability to understand > simple codes of HTML and changing their logo in the software. Actually LIS > professionals are not supposed to be programmers. They should be information > systems manager. > > 6. Unless somebody takes responsibility of support or stamps the product, > it is not advisable to use the open source softwares . It may be security > problem. > > 7. I have experience of regularly interacting with many big organizations > and libraries throughout India that are struggling in selecting the LMS > softwares since many years. They have not yet started Data Entry of books. > If they could have used even CDS/ISIS or an MS ACCESS database for data > entry at least 60% work could have been over in terms of automation. > > 8 Some libraries I have seen, are not able to publish their OPAC on > Internet and maintaning database on local LAN machine. They have used many > open source softwares of LMS, Digital Library, Repository learnt in > different forums and training programmes. But when question comes of > migration, data conversion or enterprise integrating those softwares > solutions, they need huge money and running here and there. > > 9. There are around 5 lakh libraries in the country including schools, > hardly 10% of these may be automated using Library Management Softwares. We > have to make them automated using open source or closed at the earliest. > Here all the stakeholders are required to join and contribute. Only talking > of open or closed will not be sufficient. > > 10. My point in discussing these issues is not to discard the open source > softwares, but more of providing the right kind Information Systems solution > in totality for Indian libraries. Of course there is open revolution > throghout world . > > with regards > > P K Upadhyay > NIC , Delhi > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:18 am > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] OpenSource Debate > To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > Dear all > > > > A good logical and time befitting debate started at last. I'm > > completely agreed with Mr. Singh and would like to add a few > > point in that .... > > > > 1. Close source commercial LMSs are non-transparent in the use > > and application of standards, whereas FLOSS based LMSs are very > > clear in this direction (take the example of Koha, right from > > the 1999 it is trying to follow and implement all the global > > internationally agreed upon standards e.g. EDIFACT, NCIP, Z39.50 > > etc.); > > 2. Close source commercial LMSs are still not compliant with Web > > 2.0 tools, techniques and philosophy. FLOSS based LMSs are quite > > accommodative in this regard, for example, Koha 3 is RSS > > compliant (it produce RSS feed for every search query issued by > > users), supports Tag submission by users to describe a resource, > > users can post their comments on a particular resource available > > in the library. In short it follows participative architecture > > or user-at-the centre stage model. Unfortunately no other LMSs > > is presently web 2.0-enableb; > > > > 3. Koha (2.x and 3.x) is web-centric in architecture; > > > > 4. Fully compatible with Unicode 5.1 and thereby ensures > > storing, processing and retrieval of Indic script based resource > > (see www.granthalaya.org for a live demo); > > > > 5. Koha 3 supports information mashup - in fact we are noe able > > to snatch cover page images from Amazon without scanning pages > > or writing a single line of code (see the site of Department of > > LIS, University of Burdwan @ > > http://burdwan01.kwc.kohalibrary.com/ - search digital library > > or LIS related terms). > > > > Hope to see a brave open world > > > > Dr. Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay > > Department of Library and Information Science > > University of Burdwan, > > Burdwan, Rajbati - 713104, WB > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sukhdev Singh" > > > To: "SatishDpnd at Adroit" > > > Cc: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-NewGenLib-OpenSource Debate > > > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:16:33 +0530 > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I don't think we should shy away from any debate. But unfortunately > > > LIS Community in India seems to be relatively shy of healthy > > debates.> > > > > > > If I am given a chance to implement a Library Automation > > System, I > > > would prefer a model in the following order: > > > > > > 1. Open Source Solution. For the freedom it provides in terms of > > > 'owning' the systems for long term use. I won't mind taking a paid > > > support service. > > > > > > 2. Free Software. For it won't burden my budgets and won't > > trouble me > > > with approvals of higher authorities. > > > > > > 3. Commercial Solution. I would be going for it if none is available > > > in Open Source domain. I will keep myself ready for migration > > to an > > > Open Source Solution. > > > > > > I still feel that efforts required for training and implementation > > > remains the same for all models of softwares. > > > > > > I would still like to hear more on KOHA Vs NewGenLib. I am impressed > > > with the Delhi Public Library's ( http://dpl.gov.in/ ) > > implementation> of KOHA, though I have no idea of inside story > > about it. I would like > > > to see NewGenLib's implementation available for public view. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > --Sukhdev Singh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:51 PM, SatishDpnd at Adroit > > > wrote: > > > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message > > 2 and earlier > > > > discussions on the topic > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear LIS professionals > > > > > > > > The debate on NewGenLib v/s SOUL is simply not necessary > > because I feel both > > > > are meant for different segments of LIS market. SOUL > > was developed by > > > > INFLIBNET years back under the aegis of UGC to support > > academic Library > > > > community which at that time was unable to invest in > > proprietary LMS. The > > > > initial College edition of SOUL was costing merely > > Rs.15,000/- (until > > > > recently) when proprietary standalone LMS was costing Rs.1 > > lac. There are > > > > more than 1600 SOUL installations in India. Just think > > of them ! What > > > > should they do ? Get free-upgrade of SOUL 2.0 (with > > moderate costs of > > > > installation) or go for NewGenLib/Koha which is free and > > open source. SOUL > > > > 2.0 has added many more facilities to its previous > > version. It's web-based, > > > > many International Standards have been adopted and it is SIP2/NCIP > > > > compatible too. Now think of those smaller libraries > > which have only couple > > > > of staff, what should they do ? Use readily available > > upgraded LMS or > > > > switch over to free, open source NewGenLib or Koha - for > > which neither they > > > > have expertise nor time to devote. > > > > > > > > All of us those who are adopting Open Source software know > > very well that > > > > it needs substantial staff-time-investment - may it be for > > data migration, > > > > customising each function to suit to one's needs or even > > fixing small > > > > problem of default currency. Open Source LMS is only a > > powerful engine, but > > > > whether one can make a racing car out of it or not depends > > upon availability > > > > of the workshop facilities, latest tools and machinery, > > research staff to > > > > support and designing team to take care of its > > dynamics. Therefore I would > > > > not blindly support Open Source just because it is almost > > free compared to > > > > proprietary LMS - but would strongly advocate use of SOUL > > 2.0 by those who > > > > would like to concentrate more on user-services than > > breaking their heads in > > > > customising Open Source LMS. > > > > > > > > SOUL 2.0 is a step towards upgrading efficiency of LIS > > community as a whole > > > > at very negligible input costs. Those who feel the > > SOUL 2.0 rates are high > > > > should enquire for rates for proprietary LMS in the > > market, and also how > > > > much would it cost to customise Open Source with facilities > > which are > > > > offered by SOUL 2.0. > > > > > > > > I have yet not come across any fully operational Open Source > > LMS in any of > > > > the large Libraries in India. Many open source > > agencies claim that each and > > > > every module/facility can be customised, e.g. Template > > designs, RSS Feeds, > > > > Blogs, Federated Search, scheduled auto e-mail generators, > > Customised> > Reports, MIS stats, Online Reservation facility, > > built-in SIP2/NCIP, > > > > Video-streaming facility through web-OPAC, importing records > > from web > > > > catalogues, exporting records in variety of formats, remote > > log-ins, Serials > > > > Management etc., but when it comes to practical > > implementation, it takes > > > > months together to mould them to match needs of the organisation. > > > > > > > > Therefore I will never ever criticise indigenous LMS like > > SOUL. It is/was > > > > developed for specific cause/purpose and not for competing > > with proprietary > > > > LMS or to discourage use of Open Source LMS. We all > > should recommend it to > > > > all those who are short of resources and do not have > > time/expertise to > > > > customise freely available open-source. > > > > > > > > Would certainly welcome your views > > > > > > > > Happy LMSing ! > > > > > > > > satish deshpande > > > > formerly Head British Council Library Ahmedabad > > > > > > > > Mentor, Nirma University Libraries; Adviser, KM&IC, National > > Institute of > > > > Design, Ahmedabad > > > > M : 098250 30460 > > > > email : satish.dpnd at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In response to LIS-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 13 : Message 2 > > > > > > > >> Message: 2 > > > >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:56:14 +0530 (IST) > > > >> From: "I.R.N.Goudar" > > > >> Subject: [LIS-Forum] SOUL-INFLIBNET-NEWGENLIB > > > >> To: lis-forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > > > >> Message-ID: > > > >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > >> > > > >> Dear Professionals, > > > >> Herewith I have forwarded my response I sent through lis- > > forum soon after > > > >> the announcement of NewGenLib as open source software. My > > message answers > > > >> few questions raised by few LIS colleagues. Ther is no poin > > in discussing > > > >> the merits and demerits of SOUL, GRANTHALAYA, Maitreyee, > > Suchika, etc. > > > >> At this juncture of avilability of open source software, > > what should be > > > >> our (librarians) stand? What responsible institutions like > > INFLIBNET,> >> NISCAIR, DRTC, NIC, Keshavan Institute, etc > > should do? Government has > > > >> spent lot of money various agencies for the > > development of good library > > > >> automation system. Some of them were cooked half? > > Discontinued further > > > >> developments? some of them never saw the light of the day? > > Some of > > > >> them did not get good support after sale or implementation? > > While I have > > > >> full confidence in the capability and vision of present > > director of > > > >> INFLIBNET for developing SOUL as one of the good system, my > > basic question > > > >> is, at this juncture is it necessary still put efforts and spend > > > >> money on such developments, when so many open source > > softawre are > > > >> available? NEWGENLIB, apart from using open source > > flatform, uses only > > > >> open standards. It has stood test ofthe time. At national > > level we > > > >> should have customization, migration and support service > > > >> arrangements on any open system we adopt. 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The Faculty calls upon the Faculty Committee on the Library System to develop and monitor a plan for a service or mechanism that would render compliance with the policy as convenient for the faculty as possible. From mailman at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Mon Mar 23 10:09:07 2009 From: mailman at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in (Mailing List Admin) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:09:07 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] PROGRAMME OF IASLIC and BLA Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:34:46 +0530 (IST) From: Pijushkanti Panigrahi PROGRAMME OF IASLIC and BLA Dr. Barun Mukherji, Member of Parliament (Rajya Sabha) and former Librarian & Teacher of Library and Information Science will deliver IASLIC's? XVth Annual Ranganathan Memorial Lecture, 2008 ??on Books, Libraries And Culture at the Seminar Room, Bose Institute, P-1/12 CIT Scheme-VII-M, Kankurgachi, Kolkata 700 054 on Thursday?? March 26, 2009 at 6.00 P..M. Bengal Library Association (BLA) will release a book 'Bangla Pustak Bargikaran' (Classification of Bengali Books) edited by Sri Ramkrishna Saha, President, Bengal Library Association at the Seminar Room, Bose Institute, P-1/12 CIT Scheme-VII-M, Kankurgachi, Kolkata 700 054 on Thursday? March 26, 2009 . Prof. Pabitra Sarkar, Vice-President, Paschimbanga Bangla Academy and former Vice-Chancellor, Rabindra Bharati University, Kolkata will release the book and preside over the function. All are cordially invited to participate in the programme. Dr Pijushkanti Panigrahi, Professor, Dept of Lib and Inf Science, 3rd Floor Asutosh Building, University of Calcutta, 87/1 College Street,Kolkata - 700 073, West Bengal, India, email : panigrahipk at yahoo.com,??????(M) : +91 94342 43522. Joint Secretary, IASLIC, Convenor, Education Division, IASLIC; Associate Editor, IASLIC Bulletin, IASLIC, Kolkata-54 From savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz Mon Mar 23 12:16:39 2009 From: savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz (savitra sirohi) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:16:39 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] More Information about Koha Workshops in Mysore (9-10 Apr) & Mumbai (17-18 Apr) Message-ID: <8cf6c9ba0903222346r501fd9eaqe8ffc3fdcbf331e5@mail.gmail.com> All, More information on these workshops can be found here: http://www.osslabs.biz/koha_library_management_system/workshop.html Those who need accommodation at Mysore, kindly contact Dr. Nikam. We are unable to offer accommodation at Mumbai. I also request those who have registered or are planning to register to fill this form: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=cFJnR0JMMEF4cHpwT0MyWUxQTm9CS2c6MA Thanks, Savitra Sirohi Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From manojpant2 at rediffmail.com Mon Mar 23 12:38:02 2009 From: manojpant2 at rediffmail.com (manoj kumar pant) Date: 23 Mar 2009 07:08:02 -0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Urgent : Cannon of Abstracting Message-ID: <20090323070802.27242.qmail@f6mail-144-151.rediffmail.com> ? Dear professionals, Could anyone one send me the information regarding "Ranganathan's Cannon of Abstracting" I would be gratful ------------------------------------ Manoj Kumar Pant (BSc., MLISc., CCNA) Lecturer, Deptt. of Library & Information Science Amrapali Institute, Shiksha Nagar, Haldwani, Nainital, Uttaranchal-263139. Ph. No.-09012226260(Mob.) 919219918942(Home), 238201(Office) e-mail - " manojpant2 at rediffmail.com ". " manojpant2 at yahoo.co.in ". ------------------------------------------ "Don't walk ahead of me - I can't follow you, don't walk behind me I can't lead you, Walk along with me and be my friend." ------------------------------------------ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090323/c547bd68/attachment.html From esukhdev at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 13:07:00 2009 From: esukhdev at gmail.com (Sukhdev Singh) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:07:00 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Open Source Software In-Reply-To: <6ccc9a720903212328v31893255vcfe7819446d06329@mail.gmail.com> References: <5d6bc5c70903170051r38d28591r207fbe08f9e760bb@mail.gmail.com> <6ccc9a720903212328v31893255vcfe7819446d06329@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Friends, What I understand from discussion is that: 1. An Educator needs Software that can be taught. 2. A Librarian needs Software that works. Open Source Softwares (OSS) can serve the needs of both Educators and Librarians alike. I have not seen any fundamental opposition to the concept of Open Source Softwares (OSS) in the discussion. Even those initiatives, where softwares are available for some fee, are trying to make them more affordable and even as OSS in future. Educators can straight way start with OSS without being dependent on any financial support or charity. True, Librarians are not supposed to be Programmers, but they are supposed to take informed decisions as what to implement in their libraries. If they do not have adequate financial support or other resources, they have no option but to either go for OSS solutions or continue do their work as they have been doing. However life is not so simple for those who have adequate financial and other resources. It is for them to make difficult choice between OSS solutions and Properiatary Softwares. OSS are better placed in terms of compliance to latest trends, best practices and standards. They can be easily adapted to local needs if required. They are best supported by active user community. If there is any Myth about the OSS, it is that - 'No one is there to support you with your OSS based solutions and you have to depend on voluntary help from others'. This is totally incorrect nowadays. There are many vendors who charge for their support to OSS. For example LibLime http://liblime.com/ can help you with KOHA and Kesavan Institute of Information and Knowledge Management can help you with NewGenLib. So, if you have money, buy paid support service for your OSS based solution. The general Open Source Vs Properiatary Softwares debate could be un-ending. Many of such debates can be accessed with a simple google search. There is lot of competing interests involved in this whole issue of Open Source Vs Properiatary Softwares. If we are keen observers, we will notice that the general trend is towards more Openness and Collaboration. So, I maintain - Future is Open. You decide where you want to invest. --Sukhdev Singh, NIC. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From apassion2002 at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 13:40:57 2009 From: apassion2002 at gmail.com (Ajay Kamble) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:40:57 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Call for papers : Date Extended Message-ID: <8641f3070903230110g573293efl5e279cf17c1f2caf@mail.gmail.com> Thakur College of Engineering & Technology Shyamnarayan Thakur Marg, Thakur Village, Kandivali (E), Mumbai 400101, Tel: 67308131 2 DAYS NATIONAL LEVEL SYMPOSIUM ON "Lirarianship in 21st Century: Challenges & Prospectus" on April 8th - 9th , 2009 By Central Library & TCET-ISTE Chapter Last Date of Paper submission extended to 25th March 2009. For Brochure & Format of paper kindly go through this link http://www.tcetmumbai.in/Central%20Library.htm -- Ajay M. Kamble Librarian Annasaheb Vartak Arts, Commerce, Science College, Vasai Road (W), Dist. 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MLISc., Ph.D. Selection Grade Librarian, Nagarjuna College of Engineering & Technology, Devanahalli, Bengaluru - 562 110. Ph: +91-9845102382, Email: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Blog: ksdinesh.blogspot.com, Official Blog: libraryofncet.blogspot.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090323/fef2630c/attachment-0001.html From dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 14:34:40 2009 From: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com (DINESH SIDDAIAH) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:04:40 +0000 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Online M.L.I.S. degree Message-ID: <62c911520903230204r24259bd8qdfe852de12f4fa6b@mail.gmail.com> Dear Friends, Online M.L.I.S. degree Rutgers - School of Communication, Information and Libray Studies offers M.L.I.S. degree through online learning. Those who are interested can enjoy the flexibility and convenience of managing coursework from home or from work. All course work for the online program is conducted entirely online.Online classes have the same content as on-campus courses and are taught by the same combination of faculty and adjunct instructors as on-campus program. http://www.scils.rutgers.edu/master-of-library-and-information-science/completing-a-degree-online.html Thanking You, Dinesh -- Dr. Dinesh K. S. MLISc., Ph.D. Selection Grade Librarian, Nagarjuna College of Engineering & Technology, Devanahalli, Bengaluru - 562 110. Ph: +91-9845102382, Email: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Blog: ksdinesh.blogspot.com, Official Blog: libraryofncet.blogspot.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090323/d45a97dd/attachment-0001.html From savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz Mon Mar 23 15:02:11 2009 From: savitra.sirohi at osslabs.biz (savitra sirohi) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:02:11 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software In-Reply-To: <8cf6c9ba0903230230o6f461a75o3f0f5285e24dfeb4@mail.gmail.com> References: <8cf6c9ba0903230230o6f461a75o3f0f5285e24dfeb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8cf6c9ba0903230232s676d16feo6607573e2e206096@mail.gmail.com> Dr. Gupta, I agree that librarians should not be programmers. Have you considered open source AND professional IT support? I don't think there is any need to go backward in terms of software. It is possible to get the quality, innovation, no vendor lock-in, cost benefits of open source with the service quality and security that commercial software vendors offer. For instance we offer a shared hosted Koha instance starting at just Rs. 7,500 per year. This price includes hosting, hardware & software AMC, librarian helpdesk, technology helpdesk, nightly backup etc. I will be very happy to work with you or anybody else on this list to help automate libraries around the country at affordable prices. Thanks, Savitra Sirohi Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dr Pawan Kumar Gupta > Date: 2009/3/22 > Subject: Re: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software > To: forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > Cc: pku at nic.in, "Dr. Jagdish Arora" > > > Dear Upadhyay and other friends, > > I share the views expressed (by Upadhyay and a few others thinking in line > with him). > > This is not the job of a librarian to simply move in to the area of > programmer. If we are not supposed to be electrician, a sweeper, an > engineers, or a doctor; where is the problem if we are not a programmer. > > We should be able to understand the language of the programmer like other > professions, we should be able to express our needs effectively and hire the > services of programmers. > > It would be better if we devote our selves in understanding lib & inf sc > better, as compared to using our major part of the time in understanding > code of open source software. We should use available helpful > semi-commercial (like SOUL, hardly a cost in comparison to other commercial > software), or if we wish to and can afford commercial software like LIBSYS > and so on rather than start understanding the code for OSS. > > "If they could have used even CDS/ISIS or an MS ACCESS database for data > entry at least 60% work could have been over in terms of automation." is a > perfect view. i have devoted some time in counselling in IGNOU programmes > etc. And with regular interactions with LIS personnel, especially in > Rajasthan, I am of the firm view that given the manpower and infrastructure, > and keeping in view the finances available with majority of college and > public libraries they should go with something like WINISIS for generating > their catalogue and afford effective searching for their patrons. Now with > SOUL, not a costly software, and regular support from INFLIBNET (already the > improved free replacement with SOUL 2 available), small and medium sized > libraries should go for such products. > > We need to automate all libraies with the means available at our disposal. > People in the profession having a better understanding should devote to > "migration, data conversion or enterprise integrating those softwares > solutions" used by various libraries. > > Nicely written Mr Upadhyay, needs to be applauded. > With best wishes. > > 2009/3/16 Upadhyay P K > > ?Dear professionals, >> >> My view regarding open source solution vs proprietary are as follows. >> >> 1. There are ceratin myths about open source softwares. It is a good topic >> of discussion and academic study and reserch. ?But the moment we try to >> implement, problems arise out. Of course in any new implementation/change, >> there are problems. People are the most important component in any solution >> , open source or closed source. >> >> 2. Total cost of ownership(TCO) is high in case of open source solution. If >> you consider the Software installation, server setup, training, AMC, >> hosting, security, follow-up, customization the cost will be high. ?In >> relation to the total implementation, cost of software is negligible. We >> should not be worry about the open or closed softwares, our motive should be >> Proper Information Systems Solution. The management and parent organization >> never stop if a good proposal with time bound implementation is put for >> financial approval. Government of India has allocated Rs 23000 crore for >> eGovernance during 11th Plan . Many of the organizations are not able to >> spend their ICT bugdet or sometime spend anyhow. >> >> 3. In India we are fighting for the softwares and codes developed by >> Western Countries- both Open Source tools, OS, Systems Softwares and >> majority of the open source softwares( for example Windows, Linux, .NET, >> JAVA, IIS, Apache, etc). They are developing and launching these projects, >> and in developping countries including India we are not able to decide which >> software are to be used. Althogh we should appreciate the efforts of >> NEWGENLIB team from India and many Open Technology Centres have been >> started. >> >> 4. Only people are talking in fashion of open source, freedom of owning , >> because it seems free but it's not if you talk of total solution. It has >> become a fashion to talk ?of RFID, SmartCard, Web 2.0, Social Networking, >> MARC, UNICODE, Mobile OPAC, Digital Libraries, etc, even if there is no >> basic infrastructure like latest hardware, networking infrastructure, web >> hosting , data entry plan, etc. >> >> 5. Earlier also there were almost free software like CDS/ISIS from UNESCO, >> DELPLUS from DELNET(with only Rs 7500 or so), SOUL for college university >> from INFLIBNET (with Rs 50000), ?but libraries did not utilize the >> opportunity. Majority of libraries does not have capability to understand >> simple codes of HTML and changing their logo in the software. Actually LIS >> professionals are not supposed to be programmers. They should be information >> systems manager. >> >> 6. Unless somebody takes responsibility of support or stamps the product, >> it ?is not advisable to use the open source softwares . It may be security >> problem. >> >> 7. I ?have experience of regularly interacting with many big organizations >> and libraries throughout India that are struggling in selecting the LMS >> softwares since many years. They have not yet started Data Entry of books. >> ?If they could have used even CDS/ISIS or an MS ACCESS database for data >> entry at least 60% work could have been over in terms of automation. >> >> 8 ?Some libraries I have seen, are not able to publish their OPAC on >> Internet and maintaning database on local LAN machine. They have used many >> open source softwares of LMS, Digital Library, Repository learnt in >> different forums and training programmes. But when question comes of >> migration, data conversion or enterprise integrating those softwares >> solutions, they need huge money and running here and there. >> >> 9. There are around 5 lakh libraries in the country including schools, >> hardly 10% of these may be automated ?using Library Management Softwares. We >> have to make them automated using open source or closed ?at the earliest. >> Here all the stakeholders are required to join and contribute. Only talking >> of open or closed will not be sufficient. >> >> 10. My point in discussing these issues ?is not to discard the open source >> softwares, but more of providing the right kind Information Systems solution >> in totality for Indian libraries. Of course there is open revolution >> throghout world . >> >> with regards >> >> P K Upadhyay >> NIC , Delhi >> -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From =?UTF-8?B?SGkgVGhpcyBpcyBNdXRodSAo4LKu4LOB4LKk4LON4LKk4LOB4LKw4LK+4LKcLuCyjuCyuOCzjQ==?= Mon Mar 23 15:25:34 2009 From: =?UTF-8?B?SGkgVGhpcyBpcyBNdXRodSAo4LKu4LOB4LKk4LON4LKk4LOB4LKw4LK+4LKcLuCyjuCyuOCzjQ==?= (=?UTF-8?B?SGkgVGhpcyBpcyBNdXRodSAo4LKu4LOB4LKk4LON4LKk4LOB4LKw4LK+4LKcLuCyjuCyuOCzjQ==?=) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:25:34 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Prescribed qualifications for the post of Librarain as per AICTE norms Message-ID: Dear all, I just wanted to know, what is the prescribed qualifications for the post of Librarian in an engineering colleges, which are affiliated to AICTE? Recently Karnataka Public Service Commission (KPSC) had called for 9 posts of Librarian in government engineering colleges in Karnataka State. In that, it had mentioned that NET/SLET is must for the post of Librarian and Physical educational personnel in an engineering colleges. Whereas for the post of lecturers in non-engineering disciplines like English, geology, Chemistry, maths etc. are exempted from NET/SLET, if they have Mphil or PhD degree. My question is Why the same criteria is not applied for the post of Librarian? Is it violation of AICTE norms? Can any one go to the court of law for verdict? What can we do for this? Kindly provide us the necessary details regarding qualifications as per AICTE norms for the post of librarian. Thank you, Prakash M Asst.Librarian Army Institute of Fashion & Design Dooravani Nagar, Old Madras Road Bengaluru. 560 016 Ph:+91 (080) 2561 7559 Mobile: 98457 92358 Email:prakashmh at gmail.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090323/7e7983c1/attachment-0001.html From panigrahipk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 23 15:56:38 2009 From: panigrahipk at yahoo.com (Pijushkanti Panigrahi) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:56:38 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] PROGRAMME OF IASLIC and BLA Message-ID: <797816.62961.qm@web94816.mail.in2.yahoo.com> PROGRAMME OF IASLIC and BLA Dr. Barun Mukherji, Member of Parliament (Rajya Sabha) and former Librarian & Teacher of Library and Information Science will deliver IASLIC?s? XVth Annual Ranganathan Memorial Lecture, 2008 ?on Books, Libraries And Culture at the Seminar Room, Bose Institute, P-1/12 CIT Scheme-VII-M, Kankurgachi, Kolkata 700 054 on Thursday? March 26, 2009 at 6.00 P..M. Bengal Library Association (BLA) will release a book ?Bangla Pustak Bargikaran? (Classification of Bengali Books) edited by Sri Ramkrishna Saha, President, Bengal Library Association at the Seminar Room, Bose Institute, P-1/12 CIT Scheme-VII-M, Kankurgachi, Kolkata 700 054 on Thursday? March 26, 2009 . Prof. Pabitra Sarkar, Vice-President, Paschimbanga Bangla Academy and former Vice-Chancellor, Rabindra Bharati University, Kolkata will release the book and preside over the function. All are cordially invited to participate in the programme. ? ============ ========= ========= ========= ==== Dr Pijushkanti Panigrahi, Professor, Dept of Lib and Inf Science, 3rd Floor Asutosh Building, University of Calcutta, 87/1 College Street,Kolkata - 700 073, West Bengal, India, email : panigrahipk@ yahoo.com,???(M) : +91 94342 43522. Joint Secretary, IASLIC, Convenor, Education Division, IASLIC; Associate Editor, IASLIC Bulletin, IASLIC, Kolkata-54 Dr Pijushkanti Panigrahi, Professor, Dept of Lib and Inf Science, 3rd Floor Asutosh Building, University of Calcutta, 87/1 College Street,Kolkata - 700 073, West Bengal, India, email : panigrahipk at yahoo.com,???(M) : +91 94342 43522. Joint Secretary, IASLIC, Convenor, Education Division, IASLIC; Associate Editor, IASLIC Bulletin, IASLIC, Kolkata-54 ? Get rid of Add-Ons in your email ID get yourname at ymail.com. Sign up now! http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090323/b8bf273b/attachment-0001.html From akualig at yahoo.co.in Mon Mar 23 16:11:51 2009 From: akualig at yahoo.co.in (ashok upadhyay) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:11:51 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] questions for LIS professionals for interview purpose Message-ID: <783461.54017.qm@web8608.mail.in.yahoo.com> Interview Questions for LIS Professtionals 1. Introduce Yourself 2. What are your strengths & weakness 3. Why did you decide to enter the field of library and information science? OR What motivated you to seek a library degree? 4. Why did you decide to apply for this position? 5. Discuss some of your achievement regarding this field. 6. What kind of work environment do you prefer? 7. How are you qualified for this job? OR What qualifications do you have that make you think you will be a success at this job? 8. Do you have some extraordinary qualities that distinguish you from others? 9. The person in this position needs to be innovative and proactive. Can you describe some things you have done to demonstrate these qualities? 10. How would you rate your communication skills and what have you done to improve them? 11. What experience do you have dealing with academic scholars? 12. What is your experience with automated systems and with computers in general? 13. Tell us about yourself and your ambition. 14. Tell us about some of your contribution to improve our field. 15. What do you think a reference librarian's duties should be? 16. Tell us about your subject background and about your coursework outside of library science. 17. Do you have the skills necessary to create and maintain our WWW home pages? 18. Do you plan to continue your education? 19. Starting with your last job, would you tell me about some of your achievements that were recognized by your superiors? 20. What are some things you would like to avoid in a job? Why? 21. What does success mean to you? How do you judge it? 22. What types of things make you angry? How do you react? 23. In what ways do you think you can make a contribution to our department? 24. Why do you think this library should hire you? 25. Describe your experience in creating documents, proposals, research findings, or any other form of written copy. 26. Mention some popular reference materials. 27. What does librarianship means? 28. Mention some popular online databases with their subject coverage. 29. Briefly discuss about Melvil Dewey. 30. Mention some popular journals in our field. 31. Abbreviate ISBN and ISSN. Describe their role in this information era. 32. What do you mean by "Bibliography?? How will you arrange a bibliography? 33. Discuss the library movement in your country. 34. Which is more important ' Bibliography or Abstract ' for controlling information explosion? 35. Briefly discuss about Library Association in your country? 36. Which is the world's oldest Library Association? 37. What is library science? 38. Which is the largest library in the world? 39. What are the major classifications of the DDC? 40. What are the twenty major classes of Library of Congress? 41. What are the major Medical Subject Headings (MeSH) classes? 42. What are the ten major classes of Universal Decimal Classification? 43. Which is the largest library in your country (both in collection and structure)? 44. Briefly discuss history of library education in your country. 45. Which resource do you prefer - electronic or print, and why? 46. Discuss some major problems of library automation in your country. 47. Which classification scheme would you prefer and why? 48. What do you mean by National Bibliography? Is there any national bibliography published in your country? 49. What do you mean by classification? 50. Mention five popular National Library in the world. 51. Briefly Discuss about IFLA, it's role to promote librarianship around the world. 52. What does information literacy means? 53. What does OPAC means? 54. Discuss briefly the role of OCLC, its functions. 55. How reference services differ from information service? 56. Discuss the benefits of library automation. 57. Why classification is necessary? 58. Which is the largest academic library in your country? 59. Why Public library is called the People's University? 60. Discuss the various types of library that exist in a civil society. 61. Why networking and resource sharing of a library is necessary? 62. Mention two modern information services. -- Ashok Kumar Upadhyay Research Scholar, Department of Library Information Science, Aligarh Muslim University, Aligarh 202002 (M) 91+9412545849, 9368015073 E-MAIL: ashoka143 at gmail.com ? Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090323/94179a6d/attachment-0001.html From apassion2002 at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 17:52:49 2009 From: apassion2002 at gmail.com (Ajay Kamble) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:52:49 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Prescribed qualifications for the post of Librarain as per AICTE norms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8641f3070903230522w5cf7da2bs7cd4fa112842ca8e@mail.gmail.com> Dear Mr. Muthu, According to AICTE, the prescribed qualifications for the post of Librarian in an Engineering Colleges is MLISc and NET/SLET means as per UGC norms... But... It is mention in clarifications by AICTE that candidates having first class at MLISc can be exempted from NET/SLET. So, If they have asked for NET/SLET, it is not against any rule or circular... as the basic qualification mentioned there is as per UGC norms... and If you are having first class you may ask for exemption... attaching the copy of clarifications... Please go through the circulars and clarifications available at www.mlsc.co.nr for more details... 2009/3/23 Hi This is Muthu (?????????.???) 9844110722 > Dear all, > I just wanted to know, what is the prescribed qualifications for the post > of Librarian in an engineering colleges, which are affiliated to AICTE? > Recently Karnataka Public Service Commission (KPSC) had called for 9 posts > of Librarian in government engineering colleges in Karnataka State. In > that, it had mentioned that NET/SLET is must for the post of Librarian and > Physical educational personnel in an engineering colleges. Whereas for the > post of lecturers in non-engineering disciplines like English, geology, > Chemistry, maths etc. are exempted from NET/SLET, if they have Mphil or PhD > degree. > My question is Why the same criteria is not applied for the post of > Librarian? > Is it violation of AICTE norms? > Can any one go to the court of law for verdict? > What can we do for this? > Kindly provide us the necessary details regarding qualifications as per > AICTE norms for the post of librarian. > Thank you, > > > > Prakash M > Asst.Librarian > Army Institute of Fashion & Design > Dooravani Nagar, Old Madras Road > Bengaluru. 560 016 > Ph:+91 (080) 2561 7559 > Mobile: 98457 92358 > Email:prakashmh at gmail.com > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > _______________________________________________ > LIS-Forum mailing list > LIS-Forum at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in > http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/listinfo/lis-forum > > -- Ajay M. Kamble Librarian Annasaheb Vartak Arts, Commerce, Science College, Vasai Road (W), Dist. Thane - 401202 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090323/bbc93047/attachment.html From mysjha at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 09:52:54 2009 From: mysjha at gmail.com (mukesh jha) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:52:54 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Vacancy Of Library Assistant In NCSM Message-ID: *National Science Centre (NSC*) (National Council of Science Museums ? NCSM) Gate No.1, Pragati Maidan, Bhairon Marg, New Delhi ? 01 Application are invited for the following posts : *Library Assistant ?A? : 01 post (OBC*), Pay Band : PB-1 Rs.5200-20200 Grade Pay Rs.2800, Qualification : Bachelor?s Degree in Library and Information Science, or Diploma in Librarianship after graduation in Science. One year relevant experience after Degree/ Diploma. *Age : 30* years as on 01/03/09. Relaxation as per rules. *Application Fee* : Rs.25/- in the form of DD in favour of National Science Centre, Payable at Delhi. *How to Apply* : Application in the prescribed format alongwith the attested copies of the testimonials should reach on the above address by 06/04/2009. Application form and other details may be obtained in person or by sending a self addressed envelope of size 25cms x 10 cms duly stamped for Rs.10/- super scribing on the the top :Application form for the post of ?????.? before 04/04/09. Application form and other details can also be obtained from the website www.nscdelhi.org -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090324/24134a25/attachment.html From ksc at library.iisc.ernet.in Tue Mar 24 10:56:45 2009 From: ksc at library.iisc.ernet.in (ksc at library.iisc.ernet.in) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:56:45 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] temporary trainees for JRD tata Memorial Library Message-ID: There are few vacancies of temporary trainees at JRD Tata Memorial Library. Those who are desirous of joining may submit their application providing their Curriculum Vitae on or before 31 march 2009 Qualification(essential): MLibSc: I class; BSc or BA:I class Send your applications to Chudamani Deputy Librarian JRD Tata Memorial Library IISc, Bangalore 560012 From aashish.savant at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 14:58:18 2009 From: aashish.savant at gmail.com (Aashish Savant) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:58:18 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Regarding SOUL 2.0 V/s Open Source Software Message-ID: <40046d950903240228w53402befw8bd6cf80a366e240@mail.gmail.com> I don't think that the debate is around SOUL 2.0 V/S OSS but the larger issue of selection of a Library software solution which is; 1. Technologically and functionally superior 2. Compliant to International Software and Library Standards 3. Has lowest/ Most economical TCO including OS/ Database/ Installation/ Training/ customisation/ Technical Support 4. has demonstrated ability to accomodate and upgrade to evolving Technical and Domain specific standards In case the selection veers to an OSS solution, an important parameter in the selection will be the Service provider, if any. The criteria for selection would primarily be: 1. Experience in the Library Domain. 2. Commitment/ Stakes in the Library Business domain 3. Business Ideology/ Soundness of Revenue model to ascertain continued service support for the product 4. Technical competence in the product support as reflected in the product development/ enhancement contributions and Client referrals Also to understand that not all OSS solutions are better than properiatary solutions but the better OSS solutions will typically attract a large product community following. A large and vibrant product community will also ensure longievity of product life cycle and better technical and functional compliance. The debate on western origin V/S Indian developed s/w products is essentially superflous since a logical extension of this rather Protectionist argument would send us back to the Stone Ages. Reinventing the wheel for the sake of dogmatic patriotism would be a waste of trained resources. A more pragmatic approach would be to participate in a progressive project like KOHA and Localise the necessary features and develop newer ones. We have already made a begining by setting up portal www.kohaindia.org and are committed to devoting technical and functional resources for the same. This would be a contributory project and quite a few senior Librarians and FOSS developers have expressed willingness to work on the same. Adoption of newer technologies and Adherence to international standards is not a luxury but a necessity of the Indian Libraries. Incase the Indian educational and research institutes need to achieve their DUE international standing, Libraries and in turn Library professionals need to embrace the technological change. -- Aashish Savant Director, RDG Microelectronics Pvt Ltd. 203, Blue Rose Industrial Estate, Western Express Highway, Borivli (E), Mumbai 400066. Tel: +91 22 - 65279584/ 6571 9584 email: aashishs at rdg.co.in aashish.savant at gmail.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Along with the cash award, the winner is featured in the June 15, 2009 LJ* *cover story and honored with a gala reception at the American Library Association Annual Conference. Thanking You, Dinesh -- Dr. Dinesh K. S. MLISc., Ph.D. Selection Grade Librarian, Nagarjuna College of Engineering & Technology, Devanahalli, Bengaluru - 562 110. Ph: +91-9845102382, Email: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Blog: ksdinesh.blogspot.com, Official Blog: libraryofncet.blogspot.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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International Workshop on *Koha 3.0* April 9-10, 2009, (http://www.osslabs.biz/koha_library_management_system/workshop.html) *Registration Form* * * Name: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Designation: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Address: -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail : ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Telephone / Mobile: ------------------------------------------------------- Rs. -----------/- enclosed as Registration Fee vide Cash / DD No. ---- Dated ------------------ drawn in favour of The Organizing Secretary, Workshop, Department Library and Information Science, University of Mysore, Manasagangotri, Mysore-06. Accommodation Required ------------------------ (Yes / No) Please send the duly filled-in form to the Organizing Secretary, Workshop, Dept. Library and Information Science, University of Mysore, Manasagangotri, Mysore-06. Place: -------------------------------- Date: --------------------------------- Organizing Secretary: Dr. Khaiser Nikam, Mobile: 9845328672 E-mail: Khaiser.nikam at gmail.com Signature *Plz note the fees Rs. 900/- only *-- Regards, Dr.(Mrs) Khaiser Nikam MLISc,PhD & MBA Chairperson/Reader Department of Library and Information Science University of Mysore Mysore-570 006 Karnataka INDIA Cell:98453 28672 91-821-2415202 (R) 2419399(O) email : khaiser.nikam at gmail.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090328/891d3f4d/attachment-0001.html From sandeep31581 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Mar 28 12:54:08 2009 From: sandeep31581 at yahoo.co.uk (sandeep bhavsar) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:24:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [LIS-Forum] SLA Opens Certificate Programs to Non-Members Message-ID: <277023.31875.qm@web26307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Respected All http://www.sla.org/content/SLA/pressroom/pressrelease/09pr/pr2906.cfm Opportunities to Enhance Skills and Increase Value to Employers Now Accessible for Non-Members ? Alexandria, Virginia, March 24, 2009-- Special Libraries Association (SLA) Click University certificate programs, previously available to SLA members only, are now open to non-members who wish to enhance their skills in the fields of knowledge management, competitive intelligence or copyright management. ? "During tough economic times, information professionals must take advantage of every opportunity to master new skills, stay competitive and provide superior service to their organizations," said SLA CEO Janice R. Lachance. "Opening up the Click U certificate courses to non-members will make this advanced training accessible to any information professional." ? Most SLA certificate courses are offered online through the association's Click University and are taught by instructors who are thought leaders in their fields. Courses in the competitive intelligence certificate program cover topics such as planning and development, research, analysis, intelligence delivery, and managing intelligence. The popular copyright management curriculum includes instruction in domestic and international copyright law, digital copyright issues, use of copyright-protected materials, digital license agreements, copyright collective agreements (such as the Copyright Clearance Center and Access Copyright), managing content and copyright compliance. ? The knowledge management certificate courses teach participants how to expertly harness and manage proprietary knowledge, and how to apply and use that knowledge in conjunction with industry information to support enterprise-wide decision making, research and innovation. Students can earn a certificate in knowledge management, a certificate in knowledge services, or a dual certificate combining the two. While the primary goal of these programs is to allow participants to earn one or more certificates, each of the certificate courses has inherent value and any course may be taken ? la carte. Continuing education credits (CEUs) from IACET are available to SLA members only. ? Click U also offers "members-only" programs that are free to SLA members. They include all non-certificate online courses, twice-monthly live Webinars and replays, and the SLA Online Libraries. Also available to SLA members as part of their membership dues are hundreds of summaries of best-selling business and management books through execuBooks, a Web 2.0 training program called 23 Things, software and technology training in the SLA Innovation Lab and SLA Leadership Training. ? About SLA's Click University Now in its fifth year, Click U provides SLA members with state-of-the-art learning opportunities in partnership with today's information industry leaders. Courses on software and technology, management, communications, and leadership are designed to enhance the skills acquired through traditional library education. Click U also provides accessible certificate programs for information professionals looking to take the next step into a new career and use their traditional information skills in fields such as competitive intelligence, knowledge management, and copyright management. For more information about Click U go to www.sla.org. Thanks and Regards Sandeep Bhavsar Librarian Dr.V.N.Bedekar Institute of Management Studies Thane(W) 400601 MUMBAI. INDIA @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ email ? ?: sandeep.bhavsar at gmail.com Mob ? ? : 9987049099 elibrary :http://www.vpmthane.org/im/elib/main.htm @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090328/d4345c40/attachment-0001.html From cramesh8 at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 10:36:29 2009 From: cramesh8 at gmail.com (ramesh chander) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:36:29 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Article Request Message-ID: <57860c0a0903292206i4e497dek695bab9aa0de6746@mail.gmail.com> Dear Colleagues, I have a need of following article, if anyone have access to it, please send it to me. The details of the articles are as follows: - 1. Hippocampus as comparator: Role of the two input and two output systems of the hippocampus in selection and registration of information by O.S. Vinogradova Hippocampus : Volume 11 Issue 5 , Pages 578 - 598, 10.1002/hipo.1073 About DOI 2. Dendritic morphology and its effects on the amplitude and rise-time of synaptic signals in hippocampal CA3 pyramidal cells by Darrell A. Henze, William E. Cameron, German Barrionuevo * The Journal of Comparative Neurology: Volume 369 Issue 3 , Pages 331 - 334, 10.1002/(SICI)1096-9861(19960603)369:3<331::AID-CNE1>3.0.CO;2-6 About DOI 3. Three-dimensional analysis of the structure and composition of CA3 branched dendritic spines and their synaptic relationships with mossy fiber boutons in the rat hippocampus by Chicurel ME, Harris KM. J Comp Neurol. 1992 Nov 8;325(2):169-82. With Best Regards, Romesh Chander National Center for Science Information(NCSI), Indian Institue of Science, Bangalore-560012. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090330/66d55b5f/attachment.html From amitt at niper.ac.in Wed Mar 25 12:00:59 2009 From: amitt at niper.ac.in (Thapar, Amit) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:00:59 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Vacancy at ASCI, Hyderabad Message-ID: Associate - Library and Information Services Scale of Pay: Rs.12000-420-18300; gross at the minimum of the scale: Rs.38,186/-p.m. including CPF. Minimum Qualifications: A middle level position in the Library to support its functions. A Masters in Library & Information Science or equivalent qualification is essential. Candidates (around 40 years of age) with proven research skills will be preferred. Experience Requirements: Basic Library operation skills with 10 years experience in a professional position in a reputed organization; Academic orientation with interest and ability to work on projects leading to information products; IT skills, including database creation and retrieval; and familiarity with the recent trends in the internet related information sources. Candidates may visit website: www.asci.org.in for full details and apply within 30 days to registrar at asci.org.in http://www.asci.org.in/jobs.asp REgards, amit at urservice -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090325/02489d16/attachment-0001.html From mysjha at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 09:04:43 2009 From: mysjha at gmail.com (mukesh jha) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:04:43 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Vacancy In Central Reference Library , Kolkata Message-ID: Government of India Central Reference Library (CRL) (Ministry of Culture) Belverde, Kolkata-700027 Applications are invited for filling up posts of Language Sub-Editor in CRL : Language Sub-Editor : 04 posts (UR-2 (Gujarati-1, Telugu-1), OBC-2 (Marathi-1, Malyalam-1), Age : 27 years, relaxation as per rules., Pay Scale : Rs.5500-9000/-, Qualification : Graudate with Bachelor degree in Librarianship or equivalent qualification (b) Proficiency in concerned language i.e. should have studied as a subject upto Matriculation or equivalent standard (c) 2 years experience of work in a reputed Library. How to Apply : Application in plain paper alongwith supporting documents with regards to age, qualifcation etc. should reach the Librarian, Central Reference Library, Kolkata, Ministry of Culture, Belvedere, Alipore, Kolkata-700027 within 30 days. Please visit http://www.crlindia.gov.in to know more Mukesh Kumar Jha M.L.I.Sc (BHU 2008) Trainee (Central Lib BHU) Mob.No.+919654448933 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090326/3ef66952/attachment-0001.html From pujar at igidr.ac.in Thu Mar 26 09:35:02 2009 From: pujar at igidr.ac.in (Shamprasad Pujar) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:35:02 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Sixth-Sense: A wonderful wearable computer... Message-ID: <29595359.1238040302420.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Dear Members, Have a look at the wonderful wearable computer named 'Sixth Sense' being developed by an Indian Mr Pranav Mistry working at MIT Media Labs, USA. It looks similar to Microsoft's new technology Surface, but size and cost match that of your mobile. The video of the device demonstrated by his supervisor can be viewed at the following URL address. http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/481 Regards, Dr Shamprasad M. Pujar Deputy Librarian Indira Gandhi Institute of Development Research Gen Vaidya Marg, Film City Road, Goregaon (East) MUMBAI-400 065, India Phone: 91-22-2841 6547 ; 2840 0919 Ext: 547 E-mail: pujar at igidr.ac.in Skype: sham.pujar URL: http://www.igidr.ac.in Blog: http://spujar.wordpress.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090326/50f917d6/attachment-0001.html From esukhdev at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 12:06:45 2009 From: esukhdev at gmail.com (Sukhdev Singh) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:06:45 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] We may ban in India but UK Kids will be taught blogging, podcasts, wikipedia and other social media Message-ID: Checkout out the following blog post- Twitter and social media to be taught at UK primary schools. This news actually the makes the front page of a national newspaper!) - http://sn.im/el3wo It quotes the Guardian newspaper that "Children across the UK will be required to learn the ins and outs of a number of various social media platforms as part of draft plans proposed for the national curriculum". I wonder, should India be banning Social Media like Orkut, Facebook, Twitter etc. or including them in curricula? --Sukhdev Singh. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From puna_05 at yahoo.co.in Thu Mar 26 15:16:43 2009 From: puna_05 at yahoo.co.in (Puna Das) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:16:43 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Open access conference seeks to free research Message-ID: <659344.50163.qm@web95414.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Open access conference seeks to free research Amulya Gopalakrishnan Posted: Mar 26, 2009 New Delhi: When Newton famously remarked that if he had seen further than others, it was by "standing on the shoulders of giants", he wasn't just being modest. He was stating the simple fact that knowledge builds on previous knowledge, that the back and forth of ideas is vital for scientific achievement. Though the current proprietory publishing model is stacked against scholars, an emerging open access movement across the world aims to free scientific content - and India has big stakes in it. A conference in New Delhi brought together open access evangelists including Prof. John Willinsky of Stanford University, Prof Leslie Chan of the University of Toronto, Prof Surendra Prasad of IIT Delhi, Dr D K Sahu of MedKnow Publications, and Narendra Kumar of CSIR. Now, all research papers published from CSIR labs will be made open access, either by putting the full text on freely available institutional repositories or publishing directly in open access journals. Meanwhile, across the world, MIT has become the first university to throw open all its research papers through the online repository software DSpace. Globally, academic tenure and promotion is traditionally linked to research published in reputed, peer-reviewed journals. These journals are owned by commercial behemoths like Springer and Reed Elsevier, who own stables of journals in various disciplines, and dictate terms to university libraries. But in recent years, journal prices have shot through the roof. Now, after years of weary negotiation, and empowered by new digital infrastructure, universities are teaming up via free institutional repository systems, to pool and circulate their collective research. In India, institutes like NIT Rourkela have adopted super-archives like DSpace for another reason ? to showcase their scientific output to global peers. "NIT doesn't have the research legacy of IIT or IISC ? they needed the visibility," says NIT director Sunil Kumar Sarangi. Such a knowledge commons is especially valuable to developing countries ? for instance, in agricultural research or public health, it is inexcusable that countries which could benefit most from the scientific debate are left out of the loop, simply because of prohibitive pricing (some journals cost up to 20,000 dollars, annually). This only widens the gulf between the state of research here and the US or Europe. Even research produced in India with our taxpayer money is sent to big-name commercial journals and all copyright signed away, putting it out of reach for the Indian scholarly community. But all that could change if open access journals become the norm. S K Sahu, who runs MedKnow publications (over 80 open access journals), also busted claims that content on such journals tends to vanish into the ether after a few years online. Source: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/open-access-conference-seeks-to-free-research/439228/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anup Kumar Das New Delhi, India http://anupkumardas.blogspot.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket.yahoo.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From kannan.satheesan at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 16:22:53 2009 From: kannan.satheesan at gmail.com (kannan satheesan) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:22:53 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] A small welcoming message at your library entrance. In-Reply-To: <856e06890903270008r43421a4ey93ec7440b3c0013c@mail.gmail.com> References: <856e06890903270008r43421a4ey93ec7440b3c0013c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <695bbd840903270352n51ae184eg856f27ce899e4e04@mail.gmail.com> Whatever tall claims we have, we should admit one fact-libraries are faced with steep decline in toll. Maybe for an argument anyone can come up with gate register records and issue statistics. But i feel quite sure, serious reading with a widened base is nearing its extinction among the youth in this post Googlian era. In the west, they pay no heed to book loses and librarians wouldn't walk around with rules and canes, maybe that is why libraries still survive there in spite of their very thin digital divide. i admit this is third world, amidst financial crunches and vicious bureaucracy, a librarian may not be able to do himself much. But the same time it should be borne in mind that it is not only the variety of the services and the extend of stock that attracts users and potential users. It is perhaps the ambiance, ergonomics ,the welcoming look of the library and above all the sympathetic behaviour of librarian. Lately, i decided to stick a welcoming message at the entrance of my library and sat with a brief thought, and came up with some thing like this. I would like to share this little piece of thought with one and all, and thanking you in advance if u can add or embellish this with your creativity .. This is your own library.... No one here to ask you, ?why are you here?.? You can lay your hands virtually on anything you find here. You need not be here only if you are in search for something specific. And above all,here,you and your questions are always WELCOME. This message ends with a reassuring quote(a quote related with my intitution's motto) motivating the young minds who come in,instilling a feeling that they would fetch/ stumble upon something they need. When we librarians go far with debates on Hi-tech, may be these little things are pushed back to dark. These little things, the guides,the additions list, messages at notice boards etc etc definitely have a severe impact upon users' mind. Right now i expect a bright future for librarians,because at this pace, 10 years from now may be only we librarians would be left with the knowledge of how subjects are interconnected. i am saying this because, google and wikipedia are tools with high PRECISION and they are always accessible, and by using them very often, the upcoming generation is satisfied with a document if they find a specific definition, a formula and most often some key words in it. They are least bothered to know the out of the text book fundamentals and subject interrelations. May be as from job specializtion managers grew up, from subject compartmentalism and precise search and retrieval librarians would sustain and survive in future... Sincierly, Kannan S. Profect Fellow Centre for Earth Science Studies(CESS)Library Trivandrum, Kerala. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090327/bfcb0cda/attachment.html From jksarkhel at hotmail.com Sun Mar 29 00:01:47 2009 From: jksarkhel at hotmail.com (Juran Sarkhel) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:01:47 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Research in LIS Message-ID: Wanted Full-time Research Scholars in Library and Information Science Applications in plain paper along with complete Bio-data, attested copies of certificates, marksheets and testimonials are invited for the post of Full-time University Research Scholars at the Department of Library and Information Science of the University of Kalyani, West Bengal. Stipend will be paid as per rules of the UGC/Government of West Bengal Number of Posts: 03 Qualifications: MLIS/ADIS/AIS with 55% marks (For SC/ST 50% marks). Candidates should qualify NET/SET Examination. Applications in plain paper along with complete Biodata, attested copies of certificates, mrksheets and testimonials should reach within 13th April, 2009 to: Prof. Juran Krishna Sarkhel, Head of the Department of Library and Informatiuon Science, University of Kalyani, Kalyani-741235, West Bengal DR. J. K. Sarkhel Professor & Head Dept of Library & Information Science University of Kalyani Kalyani-741235 West Bengal; India _________________________________________________________________ So many new options, so little time. Windows Live Messenger. http://www.microsoft.com/india/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090329/7b55b430/attachment.html From dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Sun Mar 29 17:40:14 2009 From: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com (DINESH SIDDAIAH) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:40:14 +0430 Subject: [LIS-Forum] =?windows-1252?q?Excerpts_of_Conference_on_=91Scholar?= =?windows-1252?q?ly_Communication_in_India_in_the_Age_of_the_Commo?= =?windows-1252?q?ns_=28Open_Access=29=92?= Message-ID: <62c911520903290510w15ce477fr99d4a75afa694a01@mail.gmail.com> Dear Friends, Excerpts of Conference on ?Scholarly Communication in India in the Age of the Commons (Open Access)? organized by ICAST, NAL, Bangalore on 26th March 2009. The inaugural session of the conference begin with worm welcome by Dr. I. R. N. Goudar, Head of ICAST. Prof. Subbaiah Arunachalam, CIS, was briefed the significance of conference in the present scenario. Dr. A. R. Upadhya, Director, NAL was highlighted the importance of open access movement and its impacts on scholarly communication. Keynote address on ?Journals, open access, copyright, repositories ? some viewpoints from a academy? was delivered by distinguished Vice President of Indian Academy of Sciences, Prof. N. Mukunda. He begins his speech with the Darwinian ideas of evolution and how it relates to open access movement. He emphasized on the number of research publication and how difficult to get the full text articles which are under the clutches of copyrights. Prof. Mukunda was also inaugurated the DRC at NAL. Dr. Poornima, Dy. Head, ICAST was the comparer of all the sessions of the conference and also briefed about the DRC at NAL. The first conference talk starts with Prof. John Willinsky of Stanford University on ?Global and Local for Making Research and Scholarship Publicly Available?. He has quoted the Charles Darwin?s discovery of science and contributions of Newton. He has explained the today?s implications of openness and research publication of openness. He expressed that, he was very pleasure to speak in India about open access. This is because of Indian scientist convincing tactics on OA. He has quoted the example of Agropedia ? the open access online resource. He says that Agropedia has great contribution for agriculture. He was raised the importance of open educations movement, open knowledge resources, open source software and mentioned some of the institutions and society?s open access movement (MIT?s, IIT?s, NAL etc.,). He said that, broadly open access software?s are available in 25 languages which are open to people of idea. He explained how IPR of Science is open to public and increase ness of open science. He has pointed out the role of scholarly societies in OA movement and need to build the effective secondary education in India. He has argues on scientific judgment to access the quality of OA journals. He has concluded with some of the aspects of human rights, how the OA movement reduce the cost of learning resources and increased quality. The second speaker was Dr. D. K. Sahu, MD & CEO of Medknow Publications, he spoke on ?Economics and Citation Impact of Open Access Journal Publishing in India?. He has presented some of the facts and problems such as lack of qualities, low citations, low impact factors of developing countries journals article. He was emphasized on publicizing model and how research is converting into knowledge. He disclosed how the open access publishers sharing cost of publication. Most of their revenues and expenses are through advertisement (print & web), institutional membership of printed journals etc. He has made graphical representation of economics, visibility, research impact, imprint quality of some of the Medknow published journals. He says that, at present Medknow published 81 open access journals from eight countries and provides immediate free access to the full text articles. He concludes that fee-less-immediate-free model journals from the developing world could gain more readers, authors and improved citations. Prof. Leslie Chan of University of Toronto was the third speaker of the conference on the topic ?From Institutional Repositories to a Global Knowledge Commons?. He has pointed out that, how OA enables peer to peer sharing networked information economy and he has highlighted the user driven innovations, dissemination of information through philanthropy. He has remembered the OA initiatives & contributions of late Prof. T. B. Rajashekar. He has explained the some of the benefits of OA, which includes, *global dissemination*cross disciplinary enquiry*new tools for discovery*greater control of intellectual output*improved citation ratio*fastening innovation* etc. He has mentioned few reputed OA publishers, they are *Bioline Intl.*Medknow*Public Library of Science* and he was quoted few self archives, they are *arxiv.org*eprints at iisc*opendoar*. The last speaker was Dr. Sunil Abraham, Director ? Policy, Centre for Internet Society, Bangalore. His topic was ?Academic and Scholarly Communications in the Realm of Laws: Copyrights, Patents, and the PUPFIP bill. He has pointed out the fair dealing of IPR, translations, reproduction of broadcast signals and importance of scholarly communication on society and the law. He explained the implications of Protection and Utilization of Public Funded Intellectual Property Bill (PUPFIP). He says that, this bill covers all research done in pursuance to government grants and *IP intangible property* *copyrights*trademark*patent*design*semiconductor design*plant variety*. The last and final session of the conference was panel discussion. The topic of discussion was ?Scholarly Communication and Openness: Emerging Trends?. Prof. P. Balaram, Director of IISc., was panel chair and Prof. Wiilinsky, Prof. Chan, Dr. A. R. Upadhya, Mr. N. V. Satyanarayana, CMD, Informatics and Prof. Arunachalam were the members of panel. Prof. Balaram opines in discussion that, authors will be happy if articles accepted in reputed journals and most of them will not worry about copyrights. He says that lawyers are most worrying factors in OA movement. Prof. Willinksy opined that, IR are very much necessary and are not sufficient as of now. Dr. Upadhya viewed that, success of OA movement will depend on government policies and OA gives freedom for users than publishers and authors. He also opines that, IR are first hand information. Mr. N. V. Satyanaraya said that, the subscription rates of commercial journals are rising continuously and rate never comes down so far. He has given the costly royalty statistics of authors of commercial publications. He explained the author based model, how commercial publishers making money and cost based consumer behavior. He opines that, author is a major stake holder and author has to take decision in controlling the prices. He has mentioned the importance of IR National Standards especially for Standards for Archives. And also he opined that, OA are real challenges to authors. Prof. Arunachalam said that, National Knowledge Commission has to take initiatives of OA. Finally, the panel concludes that ?Exclusivity should be broken? and ?providing access to scholarly communication is important than pricing?. The conference ends with honoring panelist and vote of thanks by Mr. Satyanarayana of NAL. The conference was well organized and there were around 300 participants from academic, industry, institutions, societies, publishing and other related disciplines. This conference will open wide doors for open access movement in India. Thanking You, Dinesh -- Dr. Dinesh K. S. MLISc., Ph.D. Selection Grade Librarian, Nagarjuna College of Engineering & Technology, Devanahalli, Bengaluru - 562 110. Ph: +91-9845102382, Email: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Blog: ksdinesh.blogspot.com, Official Blog: libraryofncet.blogspot.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jr. Roentgenology Message-ID: Dear LIS Professionals, Can you please provide the following article for research purpose as one of our senior scientist requires the same article for reference: Primary Breast Cancer in Men: Clinical, Imaging, and Pathologic Findings in 57 Patients Mathew et al. Ame. Jr. Roentgenol..2008; 191: 1631-1639 With best regards ================================= Navin Kumar Soni INMAS, DRDO, Min of Defence, Brig SK Mazumdar Marg Delhi-110054. Ph: 01123985466, 09868459805 http://www.drdo.org/labs/inmas/index.html Email: navinsoni22 at gmail.com, navin at inmas.drdo.in =================================== -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From dinesh.ncet at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 09:06:28 2009 From: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com (DINESH SIDDAIAH) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:36:28 +0100 Subject: [LIS-Forum] =?windows-1252?q?Excerpts_of_Conference_on_=91Scholar?= =?windows-1252?q?ly_Communication_in_India_in_the_Age_of_the_Commo?= =?windows-1252?q?ns_=28Open_Access=29=92_organized_by_ICAST=2C_NAL?= Message-ID: <62c911520903302036y8348c0em98c4e72e54255a7b@mail.gmail.com> Dear Friends, Excerpts of Conference on ?Scholarly Communication in India in the Age of the Commons (Open Access)? organized by ICAST, NAL, Bangalore on 26th March 2009. The inaugural session of the conference begin with worm welcome by Dr. I. R. N. Goudar, Head of ICAST. Prof. Subbaiah Arunachalam, CIS, was briefed the significance of conference in the present scenario. Dr. A. R. Upadhya, Director, NAL was highlighted the importance of open access movement and its impacts on scholarly communication. Keynote address on ?Journals, open access, copyright, repositories ? some viewpoints from a academy? was delivered by distinguished Vice President of Indian Academy of Sciences, Prof. N. Mukunda. He begins his speech with the Darwinian ideas of evolution and how it relates to open access movement. He emphasized on the number of research publication and how difficult to get the full text articles which are under the clutches of copyrights. Prof. Mukunda was also inaugurated the DRC at NAL. Dr. Poornima, Dy. Head, ICAST was the comparer of all the sessions of the conference and also briefed about the DRC at NAL. The first conference talk starts with Prof. John Willinsky of Stanford University on ?Global and Local for Making Research and Scholarship Publicly Available?. He has quoted the Charles Darwin?s discovery of science and contributions of Newton. He has explained the today?s implications of openness and research publication of openness. He expressed that, he was very pleasure to speak in India about open access. This is because of Indian scientist convincing tactics on OA. He has quoted the example of Agropedia ? the open access online resource. He says that Agropedia has great contribution for agriculture. He was raised the importance of open educations movement, open knowledge resources, open source software and mentioned some of the institutions and society?s open access movement (MIT?s, IIT?s, NAL etc.,). He said that, broadly open access software?s are available in 25 languages which are open to people of idea. He explained how IPR of Science is open to public and increase ness of open science. He has pointed out the role of scholarly societies in OA movement and need to build the effective secondary education in India. He has argues on scientific judgment to access the quality of OA journals. He has concluded with some of the aspects of human rights, how the OA movement reduce the cost of learning resources and increased quality. The second speaker was Dr. D. K. Sahu, MD & CEO of Medknow Publications, he spoke on ?Economics and Citation Impact of Open Access Journal Publishing in India?. He has presented some of the facts and problems such as lack of qualities, low citations, low impact factors of developing countries journals article. He was emphasized on publicizing model and how research is converting into knowledge. He disclosed how the open access publishers sharing cost of publication. Most of their revenues and expenses are through advertisement (print & web), institutional membership of printed journals etc. He has made graphical representation of economics, visibility, research impact, imprint quality of some of the Medknow published journals. He says that, at present Medknow published 81 open access journals from eight countries and provides immediate free access to the full text articles. He concludes that fee-less-immediate-free model journals from the developing world could gain more readers, authors and improved citations. Prof. Leslie Chan of University of Toronto was the third speaker of the conference on the topic ?From Institutional Repositories to a Global Knowledge Commons?. He has pointed out that, how OA enables peer to peer sharing networked information economy and he has highlighted the user driven innovations, dissemination of information through philanthropy. He has remembered the OA initiatives & contributions of late Prof. T. B. Rajashekar. He has explained the some of the benefits of OA, which includes, *global dissemination*cross disciplinary enquiry*new tools for discovery*greater control of intellectual output*improved citation ratio*fastening innovation* etc. He has mentioned few reputed OA publishers, they are *Bioline Intl.*Medknow*Public Library of Science* and he was quoted few self archives, they are *arxiv.org*eprints at iisc*opendoar*. The last speaker was Dr. Sunil Abraham, Director ? Policy, Centre for Internet Society, Bangalore. His topic was ?Academic and Scholarly Communications in the Realm of Laws: Copyrights, Patents, and the PUPFIP bill. He has pointed out the fair dealing of IPR, translations, reproduction of broadcast signals and importance of scholarly communication on society and the law. He explained the implications of Protection and Utilization of Public Funded Intellectual Property Bill (PUPFIP). He says that, this bill covers all research done in pursuance to government grants and *IP intangible property* *copyrights*trademark*patent*design*semiconductor design*plant variety*. The last and final session of the conference was panel discussion. The topic of discussion was ?Scholarly Communication and Openness: Emerging Trends?. Prof. P. Balaram, Director of IISc., was panel chair and Prof. Wiilinsky, Prof. Chan, Dr. A. R. Upadhya, Mr. N. V. Satyanarayana, CMD, Informatics and Prof. Arunachalam were the members of panel. Prof. Balaram opines in discussion that, authors will be happy if articles accepted in reputed journals and most of them will not worry about copyrights. He says that lawyers are most worrying factors in OA movement. Prof. Willinksy opined that, IR are very much necessary and are not sufficient as of now. Dr. Upadhya viewed that, success of OA movement will depend on government policies and OA gives freedom for users than publishers and authors. He also opines that, IR are first hand information. Mr. N. V. Satyanaraya said that, the subscription rates of commercial journals are rising continuously and rate never comes down so far. He has given the costly royalty statistics of authors of commercial publications. He explained the author based model, how commercial publishers making money and cost based consumer behavior. He opines that, author is a major stake holder and author has to take decision in controlling the prices. He has mentioned the importance of IR National Standards especially for Standards for Archives. And also he opined that, OA are real challenges to authors. Prof. Arunachalam said that, National Knowledge Commission has to take initiatives of OA. Finally, the panel concludes that ?Exclusivity should be broken? and ?providing access to scholarly communication is important than pricing?. The conference ends with honoring panelist and vote of thanks by Mr. Satyanarayana of NAL. The conference was well organized and there were around 300 participants from academic, industry, institutions, societies, publishing and other related disciplines. This conference will open wide doors for open access movement in India. Thanking You, Dinesh -- Dr. Dinesh K. S. MLISc., Ph.D. Selection Grade Librarian, Nagarjuna College of Engineering & Technology, Devanahalli, Bengaluru - 562 110. Ph: +91-9845102382, Email: dinesh.ncet at gmail.com www.ksdinesh.webs.com, Official Blog: libraryofncet.blogspot.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090331/a7d3cc58/attachment-0001.html From mailman at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in Tue Mar 31 12:12:13 2009 From: mailman at ncsi.iisc.ernet.in (Mailing List Admin) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:12:13 +0530 (IST) Subject: [LIS-Forum] Notice to suggest the new name for IASLIC Bulletin Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:52:52 +0530 (IST) From: Pijushkanti Panigrahi Notice to suggest the new name for IASLIC Bulletin As you now the 'IASLIC Bulletin' is the official organ of the Indian Association of Special Libraries and Information Centres (IASLIC) and is devoted to the advancement and dissemination of the fundamentals and applied knowledge of library and information science in an accessible form to professional colleagues who have a common interest in the field in this country and abroad. This journal is published quarterly and has earned much reputation. Many of our members are of the opinion that the term 'Bulletin' is a much broader one and is also used at present in other context, which is far away from the concept of a journal. Hence the Governing Body, IASLIC has decided to change its name. As decided in the Governing Body Meeting of IASLIC held on 09.12.2008 you are requested to suggest a new name for our Journal at your earliest convenience. Editor IASLIC Bulletin IAASLIC Dr Pijushkanti Panigrahi, Professor, Dept of Lib and Inf Science, 3rd Floor Asutosh Building, University of Calcutta, 87/1 College Street,Kolkata - 700 073, West Bengal, India, email : panigrahipk at yahoo.com,?(M) : +91 94342 43522. Joint Secretary, IASLIC, Convenor, Education Division, IASLIC; Associate Editor, IASLIC Bulletin, IASLIC, Kolkata-54 From apassion2002 at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 14:40:44 2009 From: apassion2002 at gmail.com (Ajay Kamble) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:40:44 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Join the Union Catalogue Mission... Message-ID: <8641f3070903310210vde51594u475a9d83f611e66@mail.gmail.com> Dear College Librarians nearby and from Mumbai, There is a good chance for you to join the union catalogue mission... 1. If u dont have a library software?? No worries... Just type all the bibliographic data of the books in a excel file provided by Mr Angadi in the following mail... 2. If u have already typewritten all your data in word file, excel file in table format. then also u can be the part of the mission. Please, do click on http://www.geocities.com/cilisindia for more details and send your data to Mr. Mahesh at sxielibrary at gmail.com. From: Mahesh M. Angadi Date: Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:42 PM Subject: [MLOSC.344] Research Project To: Maharashtra Librarians Online Study Circle Hello Friends, I have undertaken a Research Project ??Developing a prototype model for converting bibliographic databases (library catalogue) into ISO 2709 format and hosting it on intranet and internet using ISIS tools? under the guidance of Dr. D. N. Phadke as a part of M.Phil programme at YCMOU. With the help of this Research Project libraries will be able to create or convert their collection into databases that adheres to required Bibliographic Standards. This in turn will facilitate resource sharing. Moreover, without any investments in costly softwares, libraries will be able to host their collection on intranet and internet with comprehensive and user friendly search features. For further details and status about the Research Project, log on to website http://www.geocities.com/cilisindia. Questionnaire, Guidelines and Sample Data Entry forms can be downloaded from this website. I will be very thankful if you can inform about the same to your fellow colleagues. Your valuable co-operation and support to establish a network of participating libraries will be highly appreciated Kindly send the filed in Questionnaire & Sample Entries or Library Database on following address:- Mr. Mahesh M. Angadi, A/003, Shiv Managlmurty Co-op. Housing Society, Near Gaondevi Mandir, Anand Nagar, Dombivli (East) - 421 201. For any queries, kindly contact on 9869120258 E-mail Id: mahesh_m_angadi at rediffmail.com -- Ajay M. Kamble Librarian Annasaheb Vartak Arts, Commerce, Science College, Vasai Road (W), Dist. Thane - 401202 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090331/2bb284b5/attachment.html From vinayak.gonjare at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 15:00:52 2009 From: vinayak.gonjare at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4KS14KS/4KSo4KS+4KSv4KSVIOCkl+Cli+CkguCknOCkvuCksOClhw==?=) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:00:52 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] Now Send E-Mail In Indian Languages! Message-ID: Respected All, *Gmail provides you with an easy way to type and send e-mail in your language of choice* For those of you who prefer to communicate in Hindi but did not have an easy way to type and send e-mail in your language of choice, Gmail has something to offer you. Google has launched a new feature in Gmail that makes it easy to type e-mail in Indian languages. When you compose a new mail in Gmail, you should now see an icon with an Indian character. This feature is enabled by default for Gmail users in India. If you do not see this function enabled by default, you will need to go the "Settings" page and enable this option in the "Language" section. Once you click the Indian languages icon, you can type words the way they sound in English and Gmail will automatically convert the word to its Indian local language equivalent. For example, if a Hindi speaker types "*namaste*", it will get transliterated to its phonetically equivalent Hindi text. Gmail currently supports five Indian languages -- Hindi, Tamil, Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam. So you can select the language of your choice from the drop-down list next to the icon. According to Chandramouli Mahadevan, software engineer, Google, "We built this new feature using Google's transliteration technology, which is also available on Google India Labs, Orkut, Blogger and iGoogle. I hope you find this feature useful to communicate with those of your friends and family who prefer to write in their native language, and it will be available soon to businesses and schools using Google Apps. Now back to replying to all those Hindi e-mails I got from my family and friends today!" Google's Gmail service will celebrate its fifth birthday tomorrow. Gmail, known as Google Mail in Germany, Austria and the United Kingdom, was made available to the public by Google on 1 April 2004, after extensive rumours of its existence during testing. Five years after its launch, Gmail now offers over 7GB of storage but is still labelled as a beta version. Thanks and Regards, Mr. Vinayak Gonjare Librarian Naik Foundation Padgha, Bhivandi Thane. INDIA @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ email : vinayak.gonjare at gmail.com Mob : 09702373557 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/mailman/private/lis-forum/attachments/20090331/f4c17cf7/attachment.html From apassion2002 at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 19:15:48 2009 From: apassion2002 at gmail.com (Ajay Kamble) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:15:48 +0530 Subject: [LIS-Forum] UGC qualification for the post of Lecturer/Librarian?? Message-ID: <8641f3070903310645s3d3439behc4240be96f99db35@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, 1. On 22nd September, 2006, UGC wrote this letter to all Universities that the Commission in its meeting held on 25th August, 2006 approved exemption from NET to M.Phil and Ph.D. Degree holders for appointment to the post of Assistant Librarian & Assistant Director of Physical Education. *After arrival of this circular, Job seekers attempting for NET/SET/SLET take admission for M.Phil. courses in regular or open universities or through distance education. * * *2. Next, this was published on January 15, 2009 in Hindustan Times Delhi Edition? NET must from next year by Chetan Chauhan, Hindustan Times, New Delhi, January 15, 2009 The detail news is available at http://sites.google.com/site/mloscsite/Home/important-files *Some Teachers and Librarians got exempted from NET/SET/SLET and some get conditional exemption as their proposals were sent by their Universities to UGC for exemption.* * * *3.* *Then, as per draft ugc notification on revision of pay scales, minimum qualifications for appointment of teachers in universities and colleges & other measures for the maintenance of standards, 2009, * *3.0.0. RECRUITMENT AND QUALIFICATIONS* *3.1.0 *The direct recruitment to the post of Assistant Professors, Associate Professors and Professors in the Universities and Colleges shall be on the basis of merit through all India advertisement and selections by the duly constituted Selection Committees as per the guidelines prescribed through this notification to be incorporated under the Statutes/Ordinances of the concerned university. The composition of such committees should be as prescribed by the UGC in this notification. *3.2.0 *The minimum qualifications required for the post of Assistant Professors, Associate Professors, Professors, Principals, Assistant Directors of Physical Education, Deputy Directors of Physical Education, Directors of Physical Education, Assistant Librarians, Deputy Librarians, Librarians will be those as prescribed by the University Grants Commission in this notification. *3.3.0 *The minimum requirements of a good academic record, 55% of the marks at the master?s level and qualifying in the National Eligibility Test, or an accredited test, shall remain for the appointment of Assistant Professors. *3.3.1 *Holders of Ph.D. degrees as on the date of notification of these regulations, along with those candidates who are awarded a Ph.D. degree through a process of admission, registration, course work and external evaluation as have been/or may be laid down by UGC through its regulations, and so adopted by the university shall alone be exempted from NET. NET shall also not be required for such Masters Programmes in disciplines for which NET is not conducted. *In this draft, It is not mentioned anywhere that exemption shall be given to those possessing M.Phil. degree. * * * *4.* *Still, UGC has sent letter to all universities and ask to submit information about Teachers appointed in all the affiliated colleges and information about who have completed M.Phil and Ph.D. so as to give them exemption from NET/SLET/SET exams. * *Now I expect from all respected senior colleagues, who are in touch with UGC office or officials or so, Please guide us on the following few questions :* * * *1.* *What is UGC?s present stand on qualification of Lecturers and Librarians?* *2.* *Can?t UGC take a firm decision on the qualification of Lecturers and Librarians?* *3.* *Is there any official circular from UGC on what was published in Hindustan Times about exemption to M.Phil. till June 2009?* *4.* *What is the stand of UGC for the candidates, who have completed/are studying M.Phil. and had paid big amount of Fees for doing M.Phil. from regular, distance, open university courses?* *5.* *What UGC expect the NET/SLET/SET qualified candidates, who are still jobless and searching for the jobs, shall do?* *6.* *If Exemption is given to M.Phil. upto June 2009, what about thenew entrants who will try for NET/SLET/SET and may not get qualified for years? * -- Ajay M. 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